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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    punishment isn't intended as a deterrent

    it's intended to punish

    which is does

  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    and yet you read about shit that happens in criminal justice systems around the world and this magical balance has yet to be struck

    honestly, I would love to explore a system that de-emphasizes punishment and views imprisonment (for example) as a way to keep people safe for some period of time

    community service is intended as a punishment but then you just go "what is honestly wrong with doing community service?" and you realize that it was actually designed as a method of rehabilitation that has been implemented piss-poorly

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote:
    punishment isn't intended as a deterrent

    it's intended to punish

    which is does

    how Kantian

    and wrong

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyph_DZa_GQ

  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    well, punishment is one facet of deterrence

    but people need to be accountable for their actions

    what about all the crimes committed by people who are otherwise already functioning/contributing members of society?
    do they just say they're sorry and go back to work?

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote:
    PiptheFair wrote:
    punishment isn't intended as a deterrent

    it's intended to punish

    which is does

    how Kantian

    and wrong

    2 things

    first, that isn't anywhere close to kantian

    second, I didn't say it was right or "good"

  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    Vivixenne wrote:
    and it's not the people working IN the system that are struggling, it's that they find themselves severely limited by public opinion, which sways political decisions, which then serves to dictate how corrective services "should" do their jobs

    This is definitely not true in many parts of the U.S. It's pretty terrible.

  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    i would absolutely agree that the balance is out of whack and that we focus too much on punishment and even retribution in the US but to say that punishment shouldn't be a factor at all is misguided even if well-intentioned

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Ubik wrote:
    i would absolutely agree that the balance is out of whack and that we focus too much on punishment and even retribution in the US but to say that punishment shouldn't be a factor at all is misguided even if well-intentioned

    correct

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