Hellfire was official but the new areas were kind of awful. It's a shame because it really added a lot of great stuff to the game too. Whenver I get the itch to go back and play Diablo 1 I always install Hellfire just for all the new spells and nicities it adds. I usually skip the new dungeons :P
I like the Abyss or whatever-the place you go to through the graveyard. that was rad.
if you like hellfire try hellfire:the dark. its a hellfire mod. adds the monk, barbarian, and bard. rebalances things etc. its a lot of fun.
[joke]Their save & exit reflexes, however, were matched by none[/joke].
Funny you should joke about this. My reflexes are terribad, so I usually try to run/teleport away instead of pressing esc and clicking save and quit. I won't bail on you! Not that it'll matter in D3, since you can't exit instantly out of town. HC is a nice change of pace and has more of a party mentality I feel. In D2 at least. Maybe you can't solo Inferno whether it's sc or hc. Who knows?
I am interested at how many HC D2 players will be able to stand playing HC in D3. Not being able to run a script that auto-exits for you to save your character wont save them this time. And if there is any server lag and/or disconnects... well, it was bad enough in D2 when the servers were relatively stable. I haven't seen a server from Blizzard in the last half decade that is stable enough for me to want to even try HC in D3.
Not being able to run a script that auto-exits for you to save your character wont save them this time.
uh... why not? I think you underestimate ingenuity and basic macros.
And if there is any server lag and/or disconnects... well, it was bad enough in D2 when the servers were relatively stable.
I think you have rose colored glasses of the last 10 years. There we at least as many stability issue events as there were in wow. If anything I would say there game has gotten better in that regard.edit: war3 seemed to always be ok for me, but I didnt play much, and I never touched SC2 so I can't speak on that front.
Edit: Speaking of HC mode, any word on if theres in world pvp? Is its mutual, or town agression like D2? I liked HC, I didnt enjoy PK'ers.
Not being able to run a script that auto-exits for you to save your character wont save them this time.
uh... why not? I think you underestimate ingenuity and basic macros.
And if there is any server lag and/or disconnects... well, it was bad enough in D2 when the servers were relatively stable.
I think you have rose colored glasses of the last 10 years. There we at least as many stability issue events as there were in wow. If anything I would say there game has gotten better in that regard.edit: war3 seemed to always be ok for me, but I didnt play much, and I never touched SC2 so I can't speak on that front.
Edit: Speaking of HC mode, any word on if theres in world pvp? Is its mutual, or town agression like D2? I liked HC, I didnt enjoy PK'ers.
No world PVP in coop D3 games, and you can't save/exit because your character remains in place for 10-20 seconds if you alt+f4 anywhere except in town, sort of like how inns work in WoW. The "town portal" spell has a 10 second cast time and it fails if you get hit by anything.
So yeah save/exit is dead. You mess up in battle and you are done. D2 this ain't.
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Hellfire was official but the new areas were kind of awful. It's a shame because it really added a lot of great stuff to the game too. Whenver I get the itch to go back and play Diablo 1 I always install Hellfire just for all the new spells and nicities it adds. I usually skip the new dungeons :P
I like the Abyss or whatever-the place you go to through the graveyard. that was rad.
if you like hellfire try hellfire:the dark. its a hellfire mod. adds the monk, barbarian, and bard. rebalances things etc. its a lot of fun.
The environment for that was pretty good actually, but the monsters were horrible. I went back and played it a few months ago - there are freaking ratmen in there. Also half of the Hellfire monsters look like they took existing monsters and copy-pasted body parts together.
Hellfire was official but the new areas were kind of awful. It's a shame because it really added a lot of great stuff to the game too. Whenver I get the itch to go back and play Diablo 1 I always install Hellfire just for all the new spells and nicities it adds. I usually skip the new dungeons :P
I like the Abyss or whatever-the place you go to through the graveyard. that was rad.
if you like hellfire try hellfire:the dark. its a hellfire mod. adds the monk, barbarian, and bard. rebalances things etc. its a lot of fun.
The environment for that was pretty good actually, but the monsters were horrible. I went back and played it a few months ago - there are freaking ratmen in there. Also half of the Hellfire monsters look like they took existing monsters and copy-pasted body parts together.
yeah the monsters sucked but the Abyss itself was a cool tileset.
on macros: I played without macros. just good old esc quit and town portals. I'm excited for HC in D3, especially because of the changes to make it harder to cheese your way out of stuff.
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I really wish D2 didn't look like ass on my LCD. Like, I never really got much play out of it back when I first got it and I can't stomach how it looks now.
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It doesn't mean anything. Yes, they are almost done with Diablo III. I mean, they've said this before I think. I'm pretty sure the bulk of the game has been finished for awhile. What they are doing now is balancing and tweeking, which for Blizzard can take awhile if things don't feel right.
Wow, that timeline is pretty sad. Nearly 11 years where the only events are books, patches for an old game, and updates on the new game.
The retrospective video was a good watch, though. Are either of the developer interviews worth seeing or are they pretty much just what we've heard and seen before?
There's also the small matter of HC mode generally producing a more competent and consistently mature community. Not to insinuate that hardcore players are inherently better or anything like that, just that a lot of the seriously immature players get weeded out.
I respectfully disagree, as this has not been my experience.
While my dabbling in the HC community showed me some skilled players (and these very forums are home to a number of HC enthusiasts who claim significant skill), I ran across just as many geese, trolls, spammers and other purveyors of shenanigans on those levels as I did SC games.
The heightened risk of loss might (hopefully) make them a bit more prone to attentiveness, but even that wasn't a guarantee.
[joke]Their save & exit reflexes, however, were matched by none[/joke].
Fair enough. I played in a pretty insular community so maybe I didn't see the brunt of it. I also never used any scripts or anything and in fact I never got used to (esc up Enter) as a reflex in a pinch. I died quite a bit in places I could have survived, actually, had I been more in that habit. I'd like to think that I'd enjoy HC more without cheese like that. On the other hand, d3 seems more linear than d2 in the level design which could make HC a SOB if there are no places to "park" tough mobs or just maneuver/kite/ whatever.
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they've had it listed as that date for months, that might be the real date, but I find it hard to believe a sign saying "feburary" could make it to production and be set up in stores without anyone noticing
From a glance at wiki and my general recollection, they generally announce games a good 2-3+ months before release. We'd be a mere 3 weeks out without an official announcement.
Also, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't their most recent titles have all come out on Tuesdays? The 1st is a Wednesday.
It's not impossible, and I'd be very, very happy to have D3 in hand next month, but the minor details are keeping my enthusiasm in check.
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The sign is confirmed real, but the date is up for debate. Wouldn't be the first time Best Buy has done something of the sort.
However, I also wouldn't be surprised if the game wound up coming out that soon. If I remember correctly they announced the release date of Cataclysm roughly a month before.
Blizzard pretty much does whatever the fuck Blizzard wants.
More fuel for the hype fire. Gameplay, a UK retailer, showing a February 3 release date. That would be a Friday, which is the normal day for UK releases, if I'm not mistaken.
yeah, but its on their website, and the forums are blowing up. ill admit i got excited for the first time in a long time.
Retailers will not know a date until its officially announced through a press release.(source)
you guys really need to let best buy know...unless im missing something here
We can't really keep every individual retail shop from making up a date.(source)
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I really wish D2 didn't look like ass on my LCD. Like, I never really got much play out of it back when I first got it and I can't stomach how it looks now.
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D2 looks like ass no matter what. It's graphics have not aged well at all, and they looked bad even back in 2000.
Why give a release date 2-3 months in advance when you are not sure it will be ready then? AND why sit on a product for 2-3 months when they know it is ready? Blizzard is not your average AAA gaming company, they do what they want, when they want.
I think that they will beta test until they feel that it is ready... and then release it. Maybe not even a weeks advance warning.
Why give a release date 2-3 months in advance when you are not sure it will be ready then? AND why sit on a product for 2-3 months when they know it is ready? Blizzard is not your average AAA gaming company, they do what they want, when they want.
I think that they will beta test until they feel that it is ready... and then release it. Maybe not even a weeks advance warning.
No, Blizzard does what Activision wants, when they want it. Randomly shoving a game out the door isn't good marketing. Why would you spend years making something and then push it out the door so fast no one even knows it's out? Compare to like the MW3 launch where everyone in the world knows when the game is coming out. That's how Activision works, and Blizzard works for them now.
yeah, but its on their website, and the forums are blowing up. ill admit i got excited for the first time in a long time.
Retailers will not know a date until its officially announced through a press release.(source)
you guys really need to let best buy know...unless im missing something here
We can't really keep every individual retail shop from making up a date.(source)
Except retailers know dates long before "official press releases". It sounds way too quick a turn around from announcement to release, however. He should just say "it isn't coming out in February if it isn't true.
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Why give a release date 2-3 months in advance when you are not sure it will be ready then? AND why sit on a product for 2-3 months when they know it is ready? Blizzard is not your average AAA gaming company, they do what they want, when they want.
I think that they will beta test until they feel that it is ready... and then release it. Maybe not even a weeks advance warning.
No, Blizzard does what Activision wants, when they want it. Randomly shoving a game out the door isn't good marketing. Why would you spend years making something and then push it out the door so fast no one even knows it's out? Compare to like the MW3 launch where everyone in the world knows when the game is coming out. That's how Activision works, and Blizzard works for them now.
No, Blizzard does what Blizzard wants. Activision more or less leaves them alone because they know they dont need to do anything to help them sell shit. Blizzard could have not announced a new Diablo game until 3 months before shipping and the thing would still sell like crazy.
And, they usually announce games releases about two months a head of time. Which is pretty close to the actual date. Again, see Cataclysm as an example.
Why give a release date 2-3 months in advance when you are not sure it will be ready then? AND why sit on a product for 2-3 months when they know it is ready? Blizzard is not your average AAA gaming company, they do what they want, when they want.
I think that they will beta test until they feel that it is ready... and then release it. Maybe not even a weeks advance warning.
No, Blizzard does what Activision wants, when they want it. Randomly shoving a game out the door isn't good marketing. Why would you spend years making something and then push it out the door so fast no one even knows it's out? Compare to like the MW3 launch where everyone in the world knows when the game is coming out. That's how Activision works, and Blizzard works for them now.
No, Blizzard does what Blizzard wants. Activision more or less leaves them alone because they know they dont need to do anything to help them sell shit. Blizzard could have not announced a new Diablo game until 3 months before shipping and the thing would still sell like crazy.
And, they usually announce games releases about two months a head of time. Which is pretty close to the actual date. Again, see Cataclysm as an example.
No Blizzard does what it wants as long as Activision deems that it will make it more money (ie: Starcraft 2 being 3 "games" now). Don't get creative freedom and business freedom mixed up. Activision probably doesn't care what the classes are in the game but I 100% guarantee the marketing plan for Diablo 3 has been blessed and ran through every level of Activision management. Blizzard is now part of a publicly held company, in final, they answer to shareholders.
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I like the Abyss or whatever-the place you go to through the graveyard. that was rad.
if you like hellfire try hellfire:the dark. its a hellfire mod. adds the monk, barbarian, and bard. rebalances things etc. its a lot of fun.
I am interested at how many HC D2 players will be able to stand playing HC in D3. Not being able to run a script that auto-exits for you to save your character wont save them this time. And if there is any server lag and/or disconnects... well, it was bad enough in D2 when the servers were relatively stable. I haven't seen a server from Blizzard in the last half decade that is stable enough for me to want to even try HC in D3.
or did i mess a secret button or link to clicky!?
Edit: Speaking of HC mode, any word on if theres in world pvp? Is its mutual, or town agression like D2? I liked HC, I didnt enjoy PK'ers.
So yeah save/exit is dead. You mess up in battle and you are done. D2 this ain't.
The environment for that was pretty good actually, but the monsters were horrible. I went back and played it a few months ago - there are freaking ratmen in there. Also half of the Hellfire monsters look like they took existing monsters and copy-pasted body parts together.
yeah the monsters sucked but the Abyss itself was a cool tileset.
heres the dark again: http://thedark5.com/frames/mainframe.html
on macros: I played without macros. just good old esc quit and town portals. I'm excited for HC in D3, especially because of the changes to make it harder to cheese your way out of stuff.
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Whatever that means or doesn't.
The retrospective video was a good watch, though. Are either of the developer interviews worth seeing or are they pretty much just what we've heard and seen before?
Fair enough. I played in a pretty insular community so maybe I didn't see the brunt of it. I also never used any scripts or anything and in fact I never got used to (esc up Enter) as a reflex in a pinch. I died quite a bit in places I could have survived, actually, had I been more in that habit. I'd like to think that I'd enjoy HC more without cheese like that. On the other hand, d3 seems more linear than d2 in the level design which could make HC a SOB if there are no places to "park" tough mobs or just maneuver/kite/ whatever.
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Shopped, they spelled february wrong and if you look at the face it's pointing directly at the camera while the board itself is slanted
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Also, misspelled words hit official things like magazines or store signs all the time.
Also, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't their most recent titles have all come out on Tuesdays? The 1st is a Wednesday.
It's not impossible, and I'd be very, very happy to have D3 in hand next month, but the minor details are keeping my enthusiasm in check.
Starcraft 2 did come out on a Tuesday, however.
However, I also wouldn't be surprised if the game wound up coming out that soon. If I remember correctly they announced the release date of Cataclysm roughly a month before.
Blizzard pretty much does whatever the fuck Blizzard wants.
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D2 looks like ass no matter what. It's graphics have not aged well at all, and they looked bad even back in 2000.
I think that they will beta test until they feel that it is ready... and then release it. Maybe not even a weeks advance warning.
Lol. That sign says "Feburary" ?
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No, Blizzard does what Activision wants, when they want it. Randomly shoving a game out the door isn't good marketing. Why would you spend years making something and then push it out the door so fast no one even knows it's out? Compare to like the MW3 launch where everyone in the world knows when the game is coming out. That's how Activision works, and Blizzard works for them now.
Except retailers know dates long before "official press releases". It sounds way too quick a turn around from announcement to release, however. He should just say "it isn't coming out in February if it isn't true.
No, Blizzard does what Blizzard wants. Activision more or less leaves them alone because they know they dont need to do anything to help them sell shit. Blizzard could have not announced a new Diablo game until 3 months before shipping and the thing would still sell like crazy.
And, they usually announce games releases about two months a head of time. Which is pretty close to the actual date. Again, see Cataclysm as an example.
No Blizzard does what it wants as long as Activision deems that it will make it more money (ie: Starcraft 2 being 3 "games" now). Don't get creative freedom and business freedom mixed up. Activision probably doesn't care what the classes are in the game but I 100% guarantee the marketing plan for Diablo 3 has been blessed and ran through every level of Activision management. Blizzard is now part of a publicly held company, in final, they answer to shareholders.