MLB 2008 - Devil Rays not in first place

deadonthestreet

This is the thread in which we talk about our fantasy baseball league, as well as baseball in general.

ATTN: Fantasy league managers. If any of you want to stop playing this season, Zen Vulgarity will take your team off your hands. Send him a PM, and if you work something out, let me know.

He's also considering starting a second league, so if any of you are interested in that, let him know.

JeffH

I love baseball/fantasy baseball - I'd be in.

Yahoo is probably the easiest? How many teams are we shooting for?

Lejin

I would be interested. I could also use some help on which bat I should keep to help defend last years fantasy championship in my local league. Jose Reyes, Ortiz, or Sizemore? Ortiz puts up MVP like numbers but is limited to DH status. Reyes is a SB machine, but seems to be a bit injury prone. Sizemore is great all around and might make "the leap" this year but there are lots of decent outfielders.

Any input?

JeffH

reyes.

One could argue for ortiz, but both are better than sizemore.

Is this a keeper league? If so, how come you can only keep one? All three are definite keepers.

Lejin

Its a Head2Head league, with 1 batter and 1 pitcher being carried over each year. I'll be keeping Halladay for my pitcher.

deadonthestreet

Homers are easier to find than steals.

Reyes.

Lejin

I plan on Reyes, but also steals is just one category. Homers help you in 3(HR, TB, RBI in our league). It'll kinda depend on what it looks like I can get with my first pick. If all the power bats are kept Ortiz will look better.

gundam470

I'm definitely in if we get one started

sanstodo

Lejin wrote: »

I plan on Reyes, but also steals is just one category. Homers help you in 3(HR, TB, RBI in our league). It'll kinda depend on what it looks like I can get with my first pick. If all the power bats are kept Ortiz will look better.

It depends on your league scoring but generally Reyes is the best player out of the bunch because of position scarcity and the relative scarcity of steals (each steal is worth about 1.5 HR since they're harder to come by). Ortiz had more HR, RBI, and TB but far, far fewer steals. Also, look at the differences between the top tier shortstops and the 2-3 tier ones. Ortiz does nothing to help your roster flexibility.

I'd rather fill my SS position and try to grab Travis Hafner in the 2-3 round, since Hafner is possibly a better overall hitter and should have a huge year.

I'm all filled up on leagues at the moment but I love talking fantasy anyway so you guys should keep posting What would the scoring be? Standard 5x5 or some fun SABR stuff? Roto or H2H? Playoffs or not?

deadonthestreet

Needs to be playoffs, because the bottom three or four players will quit by July, because this'll be an informal league. It's the only way to be fair in determining the winner.

sanstodo

deadonthestreet wrote: »

Needs to be playoffs, because the bottom three or four players will quit by July, because this'll be an informal league. It's the only way to be fair in determining the winner.

Eh, ok. Playoff leagues tend to be a crapshoot due to playoff teams resting stars and random luck but if it'll turn out how you say, then I agree.

In one league, a dude obviously quit so we reassigned his team to a new manager.

Also, who will be commissioner? Will there be voting on trades? Transaction limits, etc? Lots of issues to discuss

jackisreal

I'd be down.

Adrenaline

I'd be terrible, but totally in.

deadonthestreet

Being terrible is no problem!

Folken Fanel

Count me in. I've only been in one of these and it was 5 years ago. I'd love to do it again though.

zeeny

In for fantasy bases too.

deadonthestreet

sanstodo wrote: »

deadonthestreet wrote: »

Needs to be playoffs, because the bottom three or four players will quit by July, because this'll be an informal league. It's the only way to be fair in determining the winner.

Eh, ok. Playoff leagues tend to be a crapshoot due to playoff teams resting stars and random luck but if it'll turn out how you say, then I agree.

In one league, a dude obviously quit so we reassigned his team to a new manager.

Also, who will be commissioner? Will there be voting on trades? Transaction limits, etc? Lots of issues to discuss

I'd be commissioner unless someone else really needed it to be. Transaction limits tend to limit creativity. A 3 day waiver period will tend to keep people from just swapping out each day.

In a local league with buddies, a fifty cent tax on all transactions is pretty good. That way you have to think about it, and make sure it is worth it to you. then the winner gets all the money in the end. Doesn't work on internet leagues though.

Senjutsu

Can I still get in on?

deadonthestreet

Yeah, sure, we haven't set anything in stone yet.

I'll make the league this weekend, unless someone else wants to.

We just need to decide if we want to do roto or head to head.

Senjutsu

Any idea on what style of draft?

deadonthestreet

Usually live drafts end up with 3 or 4 people not showing, but that's not really a problem for anyone except the folks that don't show.

A live draft would be ideal.

Senjutsu

deadonthestreet wrote: »

Usually live drafts end up with 3 or 4 people not showing, but that's not really a problem for anyone except the folks that don't show.

A live draft would be ideal.

Yeah, that's generally my feeling. The people who don't show get an auto-draft anyways.

deadonthestreet

I've just had an idea.

We can have a running draft right here on the forums. Everyone signs up by next Wednesday. We'll randomly generate a draft order, and then I'll manually enter the picks when we're done. That way everyone gets to actually pick. If we're not close to done by near the end of the month we'll start setting timelimits on how long you get to pick.

I think that'd work. Any thoughts on that?

gundam470

I like the idea of doing a live draft like on yahoo or something better.

JeffH

Live Draft using the Yahoo league itself will be TONS easier, in my opinion. That way a. it will be quicker
b. people that can't make it put in prerankings

JeffH

Also, I don't mind either way, but I noticed that you said it was head to head, and right now it is rotisserie.

deadonthestreet

Changed to head to head, and to a live draft.

Problem is I can't find an option for playoffs. Want to stick with head to head, or go roto?

zeeny

Mmm, unless I'm mistaken, you should change the league type from "h2h" to "h2h points"(unsure how you do that, but pretty sure it's possible), then we can figure out what scoring system to use, for reference, here is the one my league used last year:
"Stat Categories: R, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, CS, BB, K, IP, W, L, SHO, SV, ER, BB, K
Stat Modifiers: R (1), 1B (1), 2B (2), 3B (3), HR (4), RBI (1), SB (2), CS (-1), BB (1), K (-1), IP (1), W (10), L (-5), SHO (10), SV (5), ER (-1), BB (-1), K (1)"

Overall, h2h points, 2 divisions with 6 teams and top 2 qualify should be fine, IMO, but I'll play anything you guys agree on.

Folken Fanel

Just registered.

Can't wait to get started.

Mattie

I'm in.

Zen Vulgarity

yes, yes, YES.

I am sooo in on this.

Lejin

Team Rugpissers is registered and ready for action.

Zen Vulgarity

Fucking can't register.

NOOOOO why?

gundam470

i'm also ready and regsitered

deadonthestreet

zeeny wrote: »

Mmm, unless I'm mistaken, you should change the league type from "h2h" to "h2h points"(unsure how you do that, but pretty sure it's possible), then we can figure out what scoring system to use, for reference, here is the one my league used last year:
"Stat Categories: R, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, CS, BB, K, IP, W, L, SHO, SV, ER, BB, K
Stat Modifiers: R (1), 1B (1), 2B (2), 3B (3), HR (4), RBI (1), SB (2), CS (-1), BB (1), K (-1), IP (1), W (10), L (-5), SHO (10), SV (5), ER (-1), BB (-1), K (1)"

Overall, h2h points, 2 divisions with 6 teams and top 2 qualify should be fine, IMO, but I'll play anything you guys agree on.

I prefer a category based system rather than points, because it forces you to diversify your team. You can hit 20 home runs in a week, but only get one win for it if your team doesn't also do a bunch of other stuff. Points based means the team with the best players wins, category based means the best constructed team wins.

Zen Vulgarity

I WANT TO REGISTER

deadonthestreet

What kind of error you getting?

Zen Vulgarity

Cocks balls. Nevermind. I'm stupid.

Da Batboyz ah 'ere fer da WAGGGGH!

deadonthestreet

Glad we cleared that up then!

Zen Vulgarity

I kept trying to go through the non-free one.

Lejin

We gonna add a limit for moves? Personally, I dislike it when people add/drop pitchers every week to get the most starts.