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MLP: FiM: For the New Lunar Old Republic

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  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    yeah, Speedy was usually chased by Daffy, not Sylvester

    it's really fucking weird

  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    Joolander wrote: »
    well I mean

    Speedy is pretty smart
    or at least smarter than Daffy

    Daffy?

    Speedy and Daffy had shared appearances in 26 cartoons in the 60s.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    that's crazy, I can't remember any Daffy/Speedy cartoons

  • AnosognosAnosognos Who wants to play video games?Registered User regular
    As a pretend Mexican (my dad's a for real one), I can confirm that Speedy is, in fact, fuckawesome.

    Some....relative of mine (I dunno, lots of people show up to reunions) has a Speedy tattoo on his forearm. He also has a big 'ol Mexican handlebar mustache

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    that's crazy, I can't remember any Daffy/Speedy cartoons

    It was the 60s, the decade where the WB cartoons had dropped off dramatically in quality after the high point of the 30s-50s. As such, they tend not to show them much in the rotations.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSOxMEQTb2E

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5U4sR76mek

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHd8PG7Co-Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imn35NYk5Z0

  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    I've never really considered Speedy to be racist. Is having an accent all it takes to be racist?

    Slowpoke, however, is racist as hell.

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  • AnosognosAnosognos Who wants to play video games?Registered User regular
    I think it's supposed to be the other ones, yeah. But nobody I know actually thinks of them as offensive.

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    These other ones?

    Wiki wrote:
    The Censored Eleven is a group of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons that were withheld from syndication by United Artists (UA) in 1968. UA owned the distribution rights to the Associated Artists Productions library at that time, and decided to pull these eleven cartoons from broadcast because the depictions of black people in the cartoons were deemed too offensive for contemporary audiences. The ban has been upheld by UA and the successive owners of the pre-August 1948 Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies catalog to this day, and these shorts have not been officially broadcast on television since 1968, and have only been exhibited once by Warner Bros., since then, theatrically in one theater in spring 2010 (see below for more details). They have turned up, however, on low-cost VHS and DVD collections over the last thirty years.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Maybe you're forgetting Speedy's slow and lazy friends who just want to take a siesta.

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  • SoralinSoralin Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    Slowpoke Rodríguez ("Lento Rodríguez" in Spanish, though some more recent translations call him "Tranquilino") is described as "the slowest mouse in all Mexico" from the country side of Mexico, and is a cousin to Speedy Gonzales, who is known as the fastest. However, he mentions to his cousin that while he may be slow in the feet, which he is best known for, he's not slow in "la cabeza" (the head). He speaks in a monotone voice and seems to never be surprised by anything. While he is the slowest mouse in all of Mexico he has been shown to have certain other (more extreme) methods of protecting himself.

    Slowpoke only appeared in two cartoons alongside his cousin. The first, Mexicali Shmoes (1959), ends with two lazy cats, Jose and Manuel, the former learning the hard way that Slowpoke carries a gun (though the gun bit has been edited out of this cartoon in recent years). The second, Mexican Boarders (1962), revolves around Speedy trying to protect Slowpoke from Sylvester the Cat, but in the end, Slowpoke demonstrates his ability to hypnotize Sylvester into becoming his slave. The other mice comment at this point that "Slowpoke Rodriguez may be the slowest mouse in all Mexico, but he has the Evil Eye!". This short (which was later edited into Bugs Bunny's 3rd Movie: 1001 Rabbit Tales) contains a possible allusion to a marijuana habit when Slowpoke sings La Cucaracha. Despite his few appearances, "Lento Rodríguez" is an immensely popular character in Latin America.

    That one also probably needs more attribution for a Wikipedia article, but allegedly Slowpoke is likeable too. I dunno.

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    I'm betting they find them enjoyable for the same reason people find charicatures like Larry the Cable Guy enjoyable.

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    SabreMau wrote: »
    I'm fine with people letting them know that this is an unpopular edit among the fanbase, but one should really exercise perspective. This is not a civil rights crusade. People are going, "We have to fight censorship!" and I said, "Nobody censored Hasbro, they did this on their own volition to their own show". "Well, we have to fight against self-censorship!" Hmm, okay. Have fun with that.

    I'll be honest, this whole change doesn't sit right with me. Though I'm not sure I can articulate precisely why.

    If they'd just cut out Dash saying 'Derpy', I'd be fine with it - bit of a murky legal area and all that.

    But changing her voice to be more stereotypically airhead and 'fixing' her eyes a bit? I dunno. I thought part of the message of the show was supposed to be that there are many ways of being a girl.

    Provided you have a properly girly voice and no (or very limited) physical imperfections. Apparently. Girls aren't supposed to be that way. I guess.
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  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    So I just watched the latest episode. In this one we learned that Pinky doesn't give a shit about the laws of physics, Euclidean geometry, or the 4th wall.

    I love it.

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  • LovelyLovely Registered User regular
    Besides the cutting of Derpy's name and her eye straightening. I actually kinda like her new voice. The other one sounded a bit too boyish.

    Someone online made a mixing of the two versions. With Dash's lines using the old and Derpy using the new.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ia9MCra2aU

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Nope. Still like the old voice better. There's nothing novel or remarkable about the new voice.

  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    Lovely wrote: »

    If they aired this video from the beginning nobody would have given Derpy shit.

    And the whole Speedy thing, I never saw him as racist nor the same with Slowpoke. In fact, I liked Slowpoke more due to his chillax'd attitude about everything. Mellow, cool, collective oh and a gun.

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  • LovelyLovely Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Check it out all, Fluttershy made a new friend. They even share scarves. 8D

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  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    That got me more excited for next friday.
    (McDonalds pony toys should be in by then.)

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  • thepizzaelementalthepizzaelemental Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Riokenn wrote: »
    Lovely wrote: »

    If they aired this video from the beginning nobody would have given Derpy shit.

    And the whole Speedy thing, I never saw him as racist nor the same with Slowpoke. In fact, I liked Slowpoke more due to his chillax'd attitude about everything. Mellow, cool, collective oh and a gun.

    See, this recut version is probably the best. Except for the delivery of Derpy's "You okay, Rainbow," and "My bad," lines, I have no complaints whatsoever.

    And Slowpoke Rodriguez was absolutely an entertaining character. It's a damn shame some people throw a huge fit over such inconsequential things as Mexican rats in their cartoons. And it's not like they were saying all Mexicans are slow and lazy and they carry guns. That was one Mexican character out of five in that cartoon, so you can't even accuse the cartoon of stereotyping Mexicans.

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Riokenn wrote: »
    Lovely wrote: »

    If they aired this video from the beginning nobody would have given Derpy shit.

    And the whole Speedy thing, I never saw him as racist nor the same with Slowpoke. In fact, I liked Slowpoke more due to his chillax'd attitude about everything. Mellow, cool, collective oh and a gun.

    See, this recut version is probably the best. Except for the delivery of Derpy's "You okay, Rainbow," and "My bad," lines, I have no complaints whatsoever.

    And Slowpoke Rodriguez was absolutely an entertaining character. It's a damn shame some people throw a huge fit over such inconsequential things as Mexican rats in their cartoons. And it's not like they were saying all Mexicans are slow and lazy and they carry guns. That was one Mexican character out of five in that cartoon, so you can't even accuse the cartoon of stereotyping Mexicans.

    I suppose you could say that it stereotyped them as wearing sombreros and untucked ascots.

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  • thepizzaelementalthepizzaelemental Registered User regular
    The Geek wrote: »
    Riokenn wrote: »
    Lovely wrote: »

    If they aired this video from the beginning nobody would have given Derpy shit.

    And the whole Speedy thing, I never saw him as racist nor the same with Slowpoke. In fact, I liked Slowpoke more due to his chillax'd attitude about everything. Mellow, cool, collective oh and a gun.

    See, this recut version is probably the best. Except for the delivery of Derpy's "You okay, Rainbow," and "My bad," lines, I have no complaints whatsoever.

    And Slowpoke Rodriguez was absolutely an entertaining character. It's a damn shame some people throw a huge fit over such inconsequential things as Mexican rats in their cartoons. And it's not like they were saying all Mexicans are slow and lazy and they carry guns. That was one Mexican character out of five in that cartoon, so you can't even accuse the cartoon of stereotyping Mexicans.

    I suppose you could say that it stereotyped them as wearing sombreros and untucked ascots.

    Well every Mexican I've ever worked with has worn a sombrero, so that doesn't count.

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  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    MrDapper wrote: »

    NOT EMO ENOUGH!
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    And omg that video, I will actually play my Skyrim if he ever makes a Fluttershy companion.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Riokenn wrote: »
    If they aired this video from the beginning nobody would have given Derpy shit.

    Yeah, probably. It'd just be unfortunately generic voice-wise, but eh. Bob-bon survived not putting those apples in her bag.

    But that's not what happened. And then someone, somewhere thought it would be a good idea to start whitewashing.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    Kinda not a fan of this little project...

    What Lauren needs to do is set up a kickstarter for her Galaxy Girls project, hire DHX, and make that an online series :)

  • Curly_BraceCurly_Brace Robot Girl Mimiga VillageRegistered User regular
    Yay!

    Seriously though, this new Super Friends series of shorts looks friggin' awesome.

  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    halkun wrote: »
    Kinda not a fan of this little project...

    What Lauren needs to do is set up a kickstarter for her Galaxy Girls project, hire DHX, and make that an online series :)

    This.

    Can you imagine the shit tons of money fans of MLP would throw at her? I'd imagine it would rival the likes of Double Fine's kickstarter.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Press Select to Muffin.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    I... I think I was just arguing about this with TFS

    How did that happen

  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Is teefs pro-derpy or anti-derpy?

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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    I already regret asking this but what were you arguing about exactly

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    That one "Save Derpy" video seriously used the Dead Island music?

    Haha, what a piece of manipulative shit.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Quoth wrote: »
    I... I think I was just arguing about this with TFS

    How did that happen

    I assume that first you were talking to teefs for some reason

  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    It was on someone else's Facebook page

    TFS is very anti-Derpy

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    TFS is very anti a lot of things

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    That stance may work for TFS in the primary but it won't fly in the general.

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  • AnosognosAnosognos Who wants to play video games?Registered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    That one "Save Derpy" video seriously used the Dead Island music?

    Haha, what a piece of manipulative shit.

    Just

    like

    that

    trailer

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Trailer was good. Would have been great if, you know, it had anything to do with the game besides ZOMBIES.

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