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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    Episode 5

    Holy shit.....

    Caius is quickly becoming one of my favorite video game villains.

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Oh barf.

    It costs the same price as the Lightning DLC to give Noel a faaaaabulous outfit.

    If they at least included a Serah costume as a bundle, it might have been reasonable, but nope. Thanks Square.

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    DLC is up. $3 for the fight, $3 for a new suit for Noel.

    I'm a consumer whore -- I bought both. Always support good behavior.

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Turkey wrote:
    Caius is quickly becoming one of my favorite video game villains.

    You ain't seen nothing yet. Let us know when you get to the end credits.

    KiTA on
  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    Oh, that Noel outfit is the same one I got with my pre-order. Word of warning: His shoes look super stupid.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Oh, that Noel outfit is the same one I got with my pre-order. Word of warning: His shoes look super stupid.

    Hey, if they're doing preorder bonuses, where's my goddamned $3 Genji Bow?

  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote:
    Turkey wrote:
    Caius is quickly becoming one of my favorite video game villains.

    You ain't seen nothing yet. Let us know when you get to the end credits.
    Better yet, the 160 Fragments special scene...

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Did the DLC fight. It was fairly easy, although I did take in a Sentinel (Bunkerbuster or whatever he's called, with about 4k HP).

    Alternated between RAV/COM/SEN, SYN/SAB/SEN, MED/MED/MED, and COM/COM/COM. The enemy team also alternates, which warns you about what they're going to do. They have a buffing stance you have to debuff / dispel away. RAV/COM/SEN let me build up chain on them in relative safety, and whenever I needed healing I just went MED/MED/MED -- a bit overkill, but it works.

    Once I staggered them I was doing about 7-8k a hit, and they only had 700k hp, wasn't a huge stretch. You can't waste time though, as they have a tanking stance, and Mediguard at 700kHP is fucking absurd.

    I took out the guy first, and Lightning did about 1k damage total to the Sentinel with Army of One. Let me repeat that. Lightning was doing 1,000 damage to a SEN with her attack. The last boss wasn't even pulling that shit off.

    Also: Where are my potions that heal 39,999 hp? Seriously.


    No drops, I hear it's a 7% drop unless you have the Fragment skill that causes higher drop rates. Since I don't, I guess I'll just be repeating it a few dozen times. Apparently they're very quick to max out -- only about 16 levels in the crystalthingy (stop making up words with more than 8 syllables, dammit) so if you can get multiples then they might (might) make good breeding fodder for your "real" RAV/COM. Or they might just be good enough to replace them, who knows?

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    KiTA wrote:
    Turkey wrote:
    Caius is quickly becoming one of my favorite video game villains.

    You ain't seen nothing yet. Let us know when you get to the end credits.
    Better yet, the 160 Fragments special scene...

    It's on Youtube in English now.
    He mocks the player (well, it's a bit ambiguous) for trying to find a timeline where he doesn't win, since it doesn't exist, and points out that we played right into his plans the whole way.

    Seriously? Best FF villain ever.

    KiTA on
  • naengwennaengwen Registered User regular
    Actually, that makes him the worst FF villain ever cuz then everyone'll just hack their PS3s

    Oh what's that? You're mocking me because I stuck to the rigid structure of the game? Well, lets do something about that then

    "What are you doing with that Game Genie"

    Gonna hack my FF1 team into FF13-2

    "Nooooooooooooo"

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Is there a trick/pattern to hands of time anomalies? Or just sheer rote trial and error?

  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Is there a trick/pattern to hands of time anomalies? Or just sheer rote trial and error?

    I like to do trial and error until I get something close to a solution and then work backwards from there. It worked surprisingly well. Or you can just cheat and use this website (where [0] is at the 12 o'clock position and it proceeds clockwise), which I found a little while ago while looking for a strategy to do one of the crystal collecting ones (the teleporting assholes).

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote:
    KiTA wrote:
    Turkey wrote:
    Caius is quickly becoming one of my favorite video game villains.

    You ain't seen nothing yet. Let us know when you get to the end credits.
    Better yet, the 160 Fragments special scene...

    It's on Youtube in English now.
    He mocks the player (well, it's a bit ambiguous) for trying to find a timeline where he doesn't win, since it doesn't exist, and points out that we played right into his plans the whole way.

    Seriously? Best FF villain ever. He breaks the fourth wall to personally give the player the finger for trying to oppose him. :P

    Again, superbly ballsy for the series, and perhaps for videogames in general. I really enjoy it.

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Guys, stop dropping hints on how the game ends + the secret ends.

    Not trying to be anal, just prefer if most comments about both, even if they aren't spoilers, were kept as spoilers.

    Also, is it possible to get a Paradox ending before the default one? I worry all this random gate jumping might end up leading to one of them.

  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    The final boss(?) kicked my ass, so I'm gonna go grind a bit then tackle it tomorrow. My current Monster Pack is:
    Cactuar, Bugaboo and Flanitor

    Other than the first one, the other two feel weak. Any recommendations?

  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    Guys, stop dropping hints on how the game ends + the secret ends.

    Not trying to be anal, just prefer if most comments about both, even if they aren't spoilers, were kept as spoilers.

    Also, is it possible to get a Paradox ending before the default one? I worry all this random gate jumping might end up leading to one of them.

    There is only one paradox ending, afaik, that you can get pre-beating the game.

    And it's blindingly obvious when you can do it.

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    Guys, stop dropping hints on how the game ends + the secret ends.

    Not trying to be anal, just prefer if most comments about both, even if they aren't spoilers, were kept as spoilers.

    Also, is it possible to get a Paradox ending before the default one? I worry all this random gate jumping might end up leading to one of them.

    There is only one paradox ending, afaik, that you can get pre-beating the game.

    And it's blindingly obvious when you can do it.

    You don't need the paradox item to get the Atlas or Royal Ripeness paradox endings but you can't turn back time until you've finished the game anyway, right? So you'll undoubtedly miss those.

    Anyway, I've got 136 Fragments at the moment. I'm hoping to finish the game completely this weekend. Then I can... Sit around doing nothing till Kingdoms of Amalur arrives from the UK.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Turkey wrote:
    The final boss(?) kicked my ass, so I'm gonna go grind a bit then tackle it tomorrow. My current Monster Pack is:
    Cactuar, Bugaboo and Flanitor

    Other than the first one, the other two feel weak. Any recommendations?

    Replace Flanitor with Green Chocobo, found in Yaschas Massif 100AF. Not sure about Bugaboo... what role is he?

  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    He's a Ravager. I just switched him for Major Moblin (sent), since Sarah is a better Rav than he was.

    On my way to get that green chocobo then!

  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Huzzah! I have finally acquired all trophies in FFXIII.

    ...I'm gonna go lie down now. Please make sure I don't swallow my tongue.

    *thud*

    "The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    you got all the weapons? jesus

    christ

    man

    WHY

  • naengwennaengwen Registered User regular
    Again, superbly ballsy for the series, and perhaps for videogames in general. I really enjoy it.

    No Snuggs allowed
    Nah, seriously? It was like a running theme in Ultima. Most other 80s/90s adventure games, too.

    Mother and most of Suda's games did something similar. Not necessarily bad guy wins endings, but certainly executed a lot more effectively.

    Hell, it was a deliberate mechanic in Eternal Darkness.

    Or maybe you're just talking about the bad guy winning part of it. Like Kefka did in FF6.

    The best thing you can say about it is that a good wrap up for the 2nd part of a trilogy. The Episode 5 ending, or the Two Towers, or the Matrix sequel that didn't actually exist so shut up about it. You end on a powerful cliffhanger, in the belly of the beast, with no possible hope of escape except for the promise of a sequel (or DLC expansion in this case).

    Considering how most game trilogies pan out, that actually is something worth mentioning. It's a proper ending to a part 2 of 3.

  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    naengwen wrote:
    Again, superbly ballsy for the series, and perhaps for videogames in general. I really enjoy it.

    No Snuggs allowed
    Nah, seriously? It was like a running theme in Ultima. Most other 80s/90s adventure games, too.

    Mother and most of Suda's games did something similar. Not necessarily bad guy wins endings, but certainly executed a lot more effectively.

    Hell, it was a deliberate mechanic in Eternal Darkness.

    Or maybe you're just talking about the bad guy winning part of it. Like Kefka did in FF6.

    The best thing you can say about it is that a good wrap up for the 2nd part of a trilogy. The Episode 5 ending, or the Two Towers, or the Matrix sequel that didn't actually exist so shut up about it. You end on a powerful cliffhanger, in the belly of the beast, with no possible hope of escape except for the promise of a sequel (or DLC expansion in this case).

    Considering how most game trilogies pan out, that actually is something worth mentioning. It's a proper ending to a part 2 of 3.
    In terms of the series, Kefka eventually lost. He "won" but he was still defeated in the end.

    In terms of videogames, there are few that actively point out that all you did was futile. I don't particularly like Suda's games so I can't really comment on them.

  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    Turkey wrote:
    He's a Ravager. I just switched him for Major Moblin (sent), since Sarah is a better Rav than he was.

    On my way to get that green chocobo then!

    Did you go ahead and get the DLC? Might want to try and fight Lightning, she's meant to be one of the best Ravagers in the game. Might take a few attempts though, she won't automatically join you.

    Oh and thumbs up Wolfman, XIII's platinum is an insanely time consuming process. XIII-2 is much better in that regard.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    Wow.

    That ending.

    That was a hell of a thing.
    Via Toryiama there'll be DLC story chapters, so even if they don't make a FXIII-3 (is this even something they've discussed?) they can still close out the story properly and resolve the to be continued.

    Still, yeah, man. Fuck all the haters, this moved to #2 on my list of best FF games, X is still my favorite.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Even if the ending stays as is, still, brilliant.

    EDIT: how did my post end up above Astales? That's odd.

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  • AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    I'm not sure it's a great thing to have to buy DLC in order to get a "real" ending.

    It's a new thing that's happened in a couple of games I think? And I hate it.

  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Astale wrote:
    I'm not sure it's a great thing to have to buy DLC in order to get a "real" ending.

    It's a new thing that's happened in a couple of games I think? And I hate it.

    From what I can remember, Eidos were the first ones to do it back in 2008 with Tomb Raider Underworld, though they went even further and made it 360 exclusive. It makes the whole "Eidos should teach Square Enix" thing Giant Bomb were talking about last week hilarious. Nice work, they taught them how to be dicks.

    Edit: Paradox resolved with a double post?

    Edit #2: Nope, Dude With Herpes' second post suddenly disappeared. The forums are acting up.

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  • naengwennaengwen Registered User regular
    naengwen wrote:
    Again, superbly ballsy for the series, and perhaps for videogames in general. I really enjoy it.

    No Snuggs allowed
    Nah, seriously? It was like a running theme in Ultima. Most other 80s/90s adventure games, too.

    Mother and most of Suda's games did something similar. Not necessarily bad guy wins endings, but certainly executed a lot more effectively.

    Hell, it was a deliberate mechanic in Eternal Darkness.

    Or maybe you're just talking about the bad guy winning part of it. Like Kefka did in FF6.

    The best thing you can say about it is that a good wrap up for the 2nd part of a trilogy. The Episode 5 ending, or the Two Towers, or the Matrix sequel that didn't actually exist so shut up about it. You end on a powerful cliffhanger, in the belly of the beast, with no possible hope of escape except for the promise of a sequel (or DLC expansion in this case).

    Considering how most game trilogies pan out, that actually is something worth mentioning. It's a proper ending to a part 2 of 3.
    In terms of the series, Kefka eventually lost. He "won" but he was still defeated in the end.

    In terms of videogames, there are few that actively point out that all you did was futile. I don't particularly like Suda's games so I can't really comment on them.
    It's fairly popular on the sci-fi horror spectrum of gaming. Lotsa devs read I have no mouth and I must scream, I guess. Then again, the game itself kinda messed it up by giving you a possibility for a good ending, but eh.

    Also a familiar saying in bad endings for games.

    As for one that genuinely states it even in the best possible ending... oh yeah, Coaxmetal. He's not even an antagonist.

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    naengwen wrote:
    naengwen wrote:
    Again, superbly ballsy for the series, and perhaps for videogames in general. I really enjoy it.

    No Snuggs allowed
    Nah, seriously? It was like a running theme in Ultima. Most other 80s/90s adventure games, too.

    Mother and most of Suda's games did something similar. Not necessarily bad guy wins endings, but certainly executed a lot more effectively.

    Hell, it was a deliberate mechanic in Eternal Darkness.

    Or maybe you're just talking about the bad guy winning part of it. Like Kefka did in FF6.

    The best thing you can say about it is that a good wrap up for the 2nd part of a trilogy. The Episode 5 ending, or the Two Towers, or the Matrix sequel that didn't actually exist so shut up about it. You end on a powerful cliffhanger, in the belly of the beast, with no possible hope of escape except for the promise of a sequel (or DLC expansion in this case).

    Considering how most game trilogies pan out, that actually is something worth mentioning. It's a proper ending to a part 2 of 3.
    In terms of the series, Kefka eventually lost. He "won" but he was still defeated in the end.

    In terms of videogames, there are few that actively point out that all you did was futile. I don't particularly like Suda's games so I can't really comment on them.
    It's fairly popular on the sci-fi horror spectrum of gaming. Lotsa devs read I have no mouth and I must scream, I guess. Then again, the game itself kinda messed it up by giving you a possibility for a good ending, but eh.

    Also a familiar saying in bad endings for games.

    As for one that genuinely states it even in the best possible ending... oh yeah, Coaxmetal. He's not even an antagonist.

    Special Ending scene discussion:
    Er, no, there is no possibility for a good ending. ALL of the Paradox endings ultimately lead to the Goddess dead, him winning, and time itself destroyed to fuel his ambitions -- he even mocks you (or the characters) for working so hard (100% competition) trying to find a way out. That's why it was so shocking for a Final Fantasy ending.

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Do we know if any of the DLC is going to come with achievements on the 360?

  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Turkey wrote:
    He's a Ravager. I just switched him for Major Moblin (sent), since Sarah is a better Rav than he was.

    On my way to get that green chocobo then!

    For the Ravager slot, I'd recommend Dragoon from the Augusta tower 52nd floor (which is also where I found Flanitor). He's extremely easy to level to Max (I had enough materials on me to do it as soon as I found him), and at the stage of the game I'm at he doubles my Serah in both dmg and HP (and she's level 50ish in Rav / Com and Sab!). His feral link does ridiculous damage.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Another question - wild artefacts are consumed when you use them to open a gate. Is the gate then permanently open, or do you need a new wild artefact every time you want to use it?

  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    It's permanently open.

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  • EvilRedEyeEvilRedEye Registered User regular
    Oh dear God clock hands puzzles.

    Gone.
  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    http://nyusuke.com/game/ff13/ff13-2puzzle.html

    Go there, the 12 position number goes in [0] and on from there, then click the left hand button.

    Fuck those puzzles.

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  • hyperpowerhyperpower Registered User regular
    So I'm 4:30 into FFXIII-2
    I can't decide if I like it or not. I think I do. The game is fun but I really miss the wold exploration and freedom of some of the older games (i.e. FF8). I guess there is no real meaning to this post.

    At what point does the game reach "it's stride" (that point where it's awesome and you can't put it down).

  • xraydogxraydog Registered User regular
    Hey guys quick non-XIII question.

    Is it worth getting FFVI on PSN? I've never played it. People keep saying the PS version isn't good... or something? Or is that just FFV?

  • EvilRedEyeEvilRedEye Registered User regular
    I think the issue with VI is the loading times. V has a horrible localisation that was greatly improved in the GBA version. The GBA version of VI is really hard to get hold of (at least over here) and I'm not sure it's that different.

    Gone.
  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Somewhere between the thread and the comic, you guys convinced me FFXIII-2 is worth getting. But! I'm destitute for a week.

    So I'm watching The Spirits Within. It is so much better than I remember.

    That is to say, better than zero out of ten.

    It's basically Avatar a decade earlier.

    Also Steve Buscemi

    Dark Raven X on
    Oh brilliant
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