1) Has anyone found any use for the 'Wide' attack option? I've not been in a situation yet where just focusing down guys one at a time isn't the smartest move.
2) Is there a way to choose which debuffs my Sab applies to an enemy, and in what order? I have no idea what debuffs are being applied and when, as it stands now. Generally on bosses I just keep my buff / debuff paradigm up until all my guys have three blue icons each then switch to tri-disaster, but I have no idea what any of those icons actually mean, or if they are the optimal choices.
well damn it that fight was easy after applying that advice. he didn't even get to cast doom and I staggered him multiple times unlike the last few fights I had where I couldn't stagger him past the first one.
Its nice to hear different strategies working well. Personally I start off on hard one on one bosses with sab/rav/rav. Coms are kind of pointless until you stagger them so I prefer to get started on debuffing first (which also slows the stagger gauge similar to coms). After stagger I'll switch to some variant on coms and ravs based on the stagger percentage usually switching to Cerberus around 800%.
1) Has anyone found any use for the 'Wide' attack option? I've not been in a situation yet where just focusing down guys one at a time isn't the smartest move.
2) Is there a way to choose which debuffs my Sab applies to an enemy, and in what order? I have no idea what debuffs are being applied and when, as it stands now. Generally on bosses I just keep my buff / debuff paradigm up until all my guys have three blue icons each then switch to tri-disaster, but I have no idea what any of those icons actually mean, or if they are the optimal choices.
Wide is awesome when you know Ruinga/Thundaga/Firaga
Anyone know what the drop rate is on the DLC battles? Just got Lightning on the second try, and I get the feeling that's on the lucky side. Now to go back to Archylte Steppe and farm for more enhancements, I guess.
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1) Has anyone found any use for the 'Wide' attack option? I've not been in a situation yet where just focusing down guys one at a time isn't the smartest move.
2) Is there a way to choose which debuffs my Sab applies to an enemy, and in what order? I have no idea what debuffs are being applied and when, as it stands now. Generally on bosses I just keep my buff / debuff paradigm up until all my guys have three blue icons each then switch to tri-disaster, but I have no idea what any of those icons actually mean, or if they are the optimal choices.
When a commando or a ravager acting under wide, Serah only uses Mog as a bow (and only uses him as a sword under cross). Not usually a big deal because she tends to just cast spells anyway, but when she's doing that dumb fire/firestrike the AI likes to do at least she'll stay at ranged. It's also useful for area healing and buffing.
Buff/debuff icons should be in the manual. In 13-2 you can't cast the offensive buffs without using a monster so it's a good idea to have a specialised one that only knows those spells and doesn't faff around with protect etc.
@BlitzAce1981 Tried seven times to get Lightning, hitting her with a feral link every time, but no dice. Managed to get Amodar on my second try but I'm up to my ears in commandos.
Then definitely yeah for sure. For farming CP or hunting for rares, when you can mop the floor with the enemies, a single Ruinga that can clear the battlefield is far superior than focusing down individual enemies.
I often use that one for my general trash killing paradigm. Battle is over before it starts. The AI will still switch to single target abilities if there are only one or two enemies, or if they're too far apart; I'd prefer they always prioritized area attacks at every opportunity.
Oh god, I just compared my bestiary with a 100% one and there's so many monsters I've missed. Finding them all is what's going to be the hard part, then it'll be beating the harder bosses (Yomi, a certain Paradox boss, etc). I'm sitting on 151 Fragments and it's going to be a real grind to get to 160. Guess I'll go after the Serendipity ones next.
Anyone know what the drop rate is on the DLC battles? Just got Lightning on the second try, and I get the feeling that's on the lucky side. Now to go back to Archylte Steppe and farm for more enhancements, I guess.
Anyone know what the drop rate is on the DLC battles? Just got Lightning on the second try, and I get the feeling that's on the lucky side. Now to go back to Archylte Steppe and farm for more enhancements, I guess.
7% apparently.
...Wow, I would've thought they'd be more generous than that. Although, I guess you are getting a RAV with 800+ Strength and Magic at max level.
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Awesome, I got Amodar. To answer Shen's question, they start at Rank 5 and need Rank 5 items (so, Crystals). They've only got a handful of nodes though, all of which are abilities.
Now to play it some more and hopefully get Lightning.
Edit: Oh and you also get Rank 5 items by winning the battle, so if you end up grinding it long enough (I'm on my 6th or 7th attempt now) you'll probably get enough Crystals to get them at least a few levels up.
Then definitely yeah for sure. For farming CP or hunting for rares, when you can mop the floor with the enemies, a single Ruinga that can clear the battlefield is far superior than focusing down individual enemies.
I often use that one for my general trash killing paradigm. Battle is over before it starts. The AI will still switch to single target abilities if there are only one or two enemies, or if they're too far apart; I'd prefer they always prioritized area attacks at every opportunity.
Wow. There's still so much I don't know about the Battle system. I didn't even realise there were AoE attacks (and I have Firaga, Thundaga and Ruinga). And I didn't know that having my guys at range made any different than having them close up. And I thought launching was basically random.
Guess I shoulda read the manual. I never do that with games anymore because of tutorials.
ALRIGHT FINE I GOT AN AVATAR
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edited February 2012
so I left the game sitting on the historia screen while I made a sandwich, and good lord is that music fucking bad.
Also, at first I thought she was chanting "I am space", which actually made the song slightly better until I realized it was "time and space"
EDIT: Pretty sure XIII-2 just assumes you know this shit from playing XIII, but to be fair I haven't looked at the manual either. I'm just working on a decades worth of experience telling me that the manual is probably three pages telling you what the buttons do and then another three pages telling Spanish or French people what the buttons do.
Anyone know what the drop rate is on the DLC battles? Just got Lightning on the second try, and I get the feeling that's on the lucky side. Now to go back to Archylte Steppe and farm for more enhancements, I guess.
7% apparently.
...Wow, I would've thought they'd be more generous than that. Although, I guess you are getting a RAV with 800+ Strength and Magic at max level.
If you kill them with a perfect Feral Link you can make it 21%.
Finally got Lightning. Both of them will likely stay in my team until I've completely finished the game. They're pretty great.
I beat Omega as well but didn't capture it. Seeing as it's not meant to be that good anyway and is a pretty annoying fight (not hard, it just takes a while), I'll happily leave it for now.
so I left the game sitting on the historia screen while I made a sandwich, and good lord is that music fucking bad.
Also, at first I thought she was chanting "I am space", which actually made the song slightly better until I realized it was "time and space"
EDIT: Pretty sure XIII-2 just assumes you know this shit from playing XIII, but to be fair I haven't looked at the manual either. I'm just working on a decades worth of experience telling me that the manual is probably three pages telling you what the buttons do and then another three pages telling Spanish or French people what the buttons do.
The manual is actually pretty nice. I was impressed. It's like 20-some pages and full color.
So I had a chance encounter with XIII-2. Bear in mind that I have had no experience with XIII, so I saw the start of the game outside of any canonical context.
Goddamn that is some shitty writing. And Goddamn I am sick of feathers, church bells and female protagonists who go to battle wearing underwear with some armoured decorations here or there (yeah, 'Lightning', what really needed plated protection was your shoulders. Not, say, your chest cavity or thighs).
Gameplay was okay. I don't understand the use of damage numbers during a QTE, but whatever.
I wish they would hire narrative artists that are as talented as their visual artists. And that they wouldn't pander to the horny 16 year old white kid crowd so much.
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edited February 2012
The vocals are oddly inconsistent. You have the Sunleth Waterscape music(XIII's) and then the music from the Steppe(XIII-2's) which is beautiful, then stuff like the Crux vocals which is ear-grating.
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So what order has everyone been unlocking shit after each crystariawhatsis tier?
My first one I took an ATB gauge increase with both of them, second I took Sab and Syn for Serah and Noel respectively, and now I'm finished my third one and not totally sure if I should take Medic with both, or Medic with Serah and Sab with Noel for leveling purposes, or what.
Is he talking about Rikku in X-2? Cause uh, how the fuck could anyone think she's white/caucasian? She and pretty much all the FFX characters are quite obviously asian.
Combat thongs? Only white boys like white women? What the hell are you talking about?
I'm sorry, but the character visuals in XIII-2 are very clearly pandering towards the carnal side of adolescent, predominantly white, young boys. And it's doing that because it doesn't have anything else (aside from the brand name) to carry it along (the aesthetic is very generic-looking, the dialogue is God-awful, the plot certainly didn't hook me, the gameplay is fine but not exceptional even for a JRPG).
Also, I'm just sick of this, 'LOOK AT HOW EPIC I AM! BECAUSE I AM TERRIFIED YOU WON'T NOTICE IF I DON'T SCREAM IT IN YOUR EAR!' crap. It's not really fair to single-out this particular Final Fantasy title for it, because it seems like every AAA title is doing it these days, but I really would appreciate someone bucking the trend so I'm going to voice my annoyance with every title that does it.
I know that most of the folks here aren't playing the game for the story anyway, but the mechanics by themselves just aren't enough to reel me in anymore.
@Ender, while I agree that there's pandering going on in 13-2 and in.. well, media in general, you're gettin' pretty ethnocentric there, assuming that it's all directed at white kids.
Hot anime chicks are for Japanese kids. (Anime, not caucasian.)
Anyway. Just beat the game.
Ending was disappointing. Not conceptually--it's a nice counterpoint to 13's, where the protagonists do exactly what the bad guys want and everything turns out well--but because I didn't really get a sense of the consequences of what happened. Everything Is Doomed, I guess, until some more DLC shows up.
Last boss took me aages. I must've killed the minions a dozen times each; I couldn't get enough damage out on the big guy fast enough.
Split Infinity's postgame tips. How to make an obscene Chichu (although DLC Omega or DLC Lightning is better if you infuse them with the proper skills), Gil farming, how to get the accessories that increase drop rates, etc.
His guide was actually stolen and placed on the Amazon Kindle store, and Amazon's apparently taking the stance of "you can't copyright forum posts." So to hell with them.
Omega's problem is he's the INVERSE of Chichu -- Chichu is very fast, but somewhat weak. But it's easy to counteract that by just leveling him with Power mats the whole way up.
Omega's skills make him very slow, but he hits like a truck. You have to counteract that by giving him skills that increase his speed -- it doesn't go away by just leveling him further.
Finally get to sink my teeth into XIII-2. Only just got past the first area.
So far, the only thing that's weirding me out is how quickly Serah and everybody else seems to be acclimating to the existence of time travel. It's been like:
Noel: I'm from the future!
Serah: Cool!
Noel: Wanna travel through time?
Serah: Ok!
*wibbly wobbly timey wimey*
Noel: We're in the future!
Serah: Woah!
It's just a little weird since the plot is "Then suddenly, Time travel!", and everybody is so chill with it. When the proper reaction should be this:
The Wolfman on
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Apparently I have to time-reset Academia 400AF, because the gaint mech enemies in there never respawn, and I need them for a combine down the line. Of course, I don't actually HAVE the gate seal for 400AF...
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When consider all that Serah has gone through, "Oh hai, I'm a crystal," and Noel having watched all the rest of humanity die off, its not that surprising. And its not like everyone else is just saying "Whatevs" and moving on. Gadot just about kicked Noels ass for getting serah close to the scary crystal meteor thing.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Wait, wait, the type of material you use to level your monsters also effect which stats you increase?
How did I miss all of this shit.
Game continues to impress me. I know I have bitched quite a lot, but that's only about the narrative. If they keep these mechanics and put out a decent story / characters next time, it's a 10/10 game for me. It's great.
I really think the translators / VA missed the point of the whole "kupo" deal.
Could you explain? Because the translators definitely seem to think it's used as a period, or some other type of punctuation.
When consider all that Serah has gone through, "Oh hai, I'm a crystal," and Noel having watched all the rest of humanity die off, its not that surprising. And its not like everyone else is just saying "Whatevs" and moving on. Gadot just about kicked Noels ass for getting serah close to the scary crystal meteor thing.
It isn't so much the quick acceptance of time travel that bugs me.
It's the fact that everyone immediately is aware of time gates and paradoxes as soon as the game boots up. And by everyone, I mean every single NPC you talk to.
I keep constantly asking "How? How do you know this, you irrelavent random person, you?". It grates me, greatly.
Statistically speaking, the odds of me not having Lightning's crystal after 20 fights is less than 1% - proof that maths is full of shit. (Assuming 7% is correct, I always get 300~% with my feral thingie). What the fuck is the point of a DLC that I cannot get what I paid for? Amodar is decent, but he had like one line in 13. (I'm assuming he's in the books or whatever.)
And Snuggles, you need to remember that the time thing isn't actually a new phenomenon. It's been three years since Cocoon fell out of the sky - which means three years since the first paradox, that wrote Lightning out of existence. They phrase it weirdly by attributing it to the meteor, but Snow and Sazh have travelling through time since before Serah.
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1) Has anyone found any use for the 'Wide' attack option? I've not been in a situation yet where just focusing down guys one at a time isn't the smartest move.
2) Is there a way to choose which debuffs my Sab applies to an enemy, and in what order? I have no idea what debuffs are being applied and when, as it stands now. Generally on bosses I just keep my buff / debuff paradigm up until all my guys have three blue icons each then switch to tri-disaster, but I have no idea what any of those icons actually mean, or if they are the optimal choices.
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Wide is awesome when you know Ruinga/Thundaga/Firaga
When a commando or a ravager acting under wide, Serah only uses Mog as a bow (and only uses him as a sword under cross). Not usually a big deal because she tends to just cast spells anyway, but when she's doing that dumb fire/firestrike the AI likes to do at least she'll stay at ranged. It's also useful for area healing and buffing.
Buff/debuff icons should be in the manual. In 13-2 you can't cast the offensive buffs without using a monster so it's a good idea to have a specialised one that only knows those spells and doesn't faff around with protect etc.
@BlitzAce1981 Tried seven times to get Lightning, hitting her with a feral link every time, but no dice. Managed to get Amodar on my second try but I'm up to my ears in commandos.
Then definitely yeah for sure. For farming CP or hunting for rares, when you can mop the floor with the enemies, a single Ruinga that can clear the battlefield is far superior than focusing down individual enemies.
I often use that one for my general trash killing paradigm. Battle is over before it starts. The AI will still switch to single target abilities if there are only one or two enemies, or if they're too far apart; I'd prefer they always prioritized area attacks at every opportunity.
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There's one enemy you have to beat on normal for a trophy but otherwise, nope. I've dropped it down a couple of times, mostly when I'm feeling lazy.
...Wow, I would've thought they'd be more generous than that. Although, I guess you are getting a RAV with 800+ Strength and Magic at max level.
Rank 5, so hunting Microchus is the way to go.
Now to play it some more and hopefully get Lightning.
Edit: Oh and you also get Rank 5 items by winning the battle, so if you end up grinding it long enough (I'm on my 6th or 7th attempt now) you'll probably get enough Crystals to get them at least a few levels up.
Wow. There's still so much I don't know about the Battle system. I didn't even realise there were AoE attacks (and I have Firaga, Thundaga and Ruinga). And I didn't know that having my guys at range made any different than having them close up. And I thought launching was basically random.
Guess I shoulda read the manual. I never do that with games anymore because of tutorials.
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Also, at first I thought she was chanting "I am space", which actually made the song slightly better until I realized it was "time and space"
EDIT: Pretty sure XIII-2 just assumes you know this shit from playing XIII, but to be fair I haven't looked at the manual either. I'm just working on a decades worth of experience telling me that the manual is probably three pages telling you what the buttons do and then another three pages telling Spanish or French people what the buttons do.
If you kill them with a perfect Feral Link you can make it 21%.
I beat Omega as well but didn't capture it. Seeing as it's not meant to be that good anyway and is a pretty annoying fight (not hard, it just takes a while), I'll happily leave it for now.
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Goddamn that is some shitty writing. And Goddamn I am sick of feathers, church bells and female protagonists who go to battle wearing underwear with some armoured decorations here or there (yeah, 'Lightning', what really needed plated protection was your shoulders. Not, say, your chest cavity or thighs).
Gameplay was okay. I don't understand the use of damage numbers during a QTE, but whatever.
I wish they would hire narrative artists that are as talented as their visual artists. And that they wouldn't pander to the horny 16 year old white kid crowd so much.
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My first one I took an ATB gauge increase with both of them, second I took Sab and Syn for Serah and Noel respectively, and now I'm finished my third one and not totally sure if I should take Medic with both, or Medic with Serah and Sab with Noel for leveling purposes, or what.
I must've missed all of the non-caucasian women dancing around in their combat thongs.
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I'm sorry, but the character visuals in XIII-2 are very clearly pandering towards the carnal side of adolescent, predominantly white, young boys. And it's doing that because it doesn't have anything else (aside from the brand name) to carry it along (the aesthetic is very generic-looking, the dialogue is God-awful, the plot certainly didn't hook me, the gameplay is fine but not exceptional even for a JRPG).
Also, I'm just sick of this, 'LOOK AT HOW EPIC I AM! BECAUSE I AM TERRIFIED YOU WON'T NOTICE IF I DON'T SCREAM IT IN YOUR EAR!' crap. It's not really fair to single-out this particular Final Fantasy title for it, because it seems like every AAA title is doing it these days, but I really would appreciate someone bucking the trend so I'm going to voice my annoyance with every title that does it.
I know that most of the folks here aren't playing the game for the story anyway, but the mechanics by themselves just aren't enough to reel me in anymore.
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Anyway. Just beat the game.
Last boss took me aages. I must've killed the minions a dozen times each; I couldn't get enough damage out on the big guy fast enough.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/619315-final-fantasy-xiii-2/61659288
Split Infinity's postgame tips. How to make an obscene Chichu (although DLC Omega or DLC Lightning is better if you infuse them with the proper skills), Gil farming, how to get the accessories that increase drop rates, etc.
More info here from the same (think there's some cross info):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/619315-final-fantasy-xiii-2/61502330
His guide was actually stolen and placed on the Amazon Kindle store, and Amazon's apparently taking the stance of "you can't copyright forum posts." So to hell with them.
Here's discussion on how to make Lightning overpowered: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/619315-final-fantasy-xiii-2/61888535
And how to fix Omega: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/619315-final-fantasy-xiii-2/61891855
Omega's problem is he's the INVERSE of Chichu -- Chichu is very fast, but somewhat weak. But it's easy to counteract that by just leveling him with Power mats the whole way up.
Omega's skills make him very slow, but he hits like a truck. You have to counteract that by giving him skills that increase his speed -- it doesn't go away by just leveling him further.
And finally, how to infuse your Silver (or Gold, I guess) Chocobo with the proper skills to dominate the racing game: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/619315-final-fantasy-xiii-2/61873340
So far, the only thing that's weirding me out is how quickly Serah and everybody else seems to be acclimating to the existence of time travel. It's been like:
Noel: I'm from the future!
Serah: Cool!
Noel: Wanna travel through time?
Serah: Ok!
*wibbly wobbly timey wimey*
Noel: We're in the future!
Serah: Woah!
It's just a little weird since the plot is "Then suddenly, Time travel!", and everybody is so chill with it. When the proper reaction should be this:
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How did I miss all of this shit.
Game continues to impress me. I know I have bitched quite a lot, but that's only about the narrative. If they keep these mechanics and put out a decent story / characters next time, it's a 10/10 game for me. It's great.
Could you explain? Because the translators definitely seem to think it's used as a period, or some other type of punctuation.
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It isn't so much the quick acceptance of time travel that bugs me.
It's the fact that everyone immediately is aware of time gates and paradoxes as soon as the game boots up. And by everyone, I mean every single NPC you talk to.
I keep constantly asking "How? How do you know this, you irrelavent random person, you?". It grates me, greatly.
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And Snuggles, you need to remember that the time thing isn't actually a new phenomenon. It's been three years since Cocoon fell out of the sky - which means three years since the first paradox, that wrote Lightning out of existence. They phrase it weirdly by attributing it to the meteor, but Snow and Sazh have travelling through time since before Serah.