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so, I've been looking at builds for project CHEESE
don't worry guys, I'm not gonna go too crazy here, it's just kind of a fun experiment for now to practice an aspect of play that I don't do for a week or so. If my win rate drops super hard, I'll go back to my super passive get 3 bases, then roach/infestor play
for ZvP, I can't decide if I want to do a destiny style Infestor/Ling 2base timing attack (I infestors, they're so good)
or if I want to try: 2 base burrowed roaches which seems gimmicky, but I have lots of good success with roaches in ZvP so I think it'd be okay even if he has, like, stuff that sees detection
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jaziekBad at everythingAnd mad about it.Registered Userregular
Did anyone watch the D9D about Ret's style of ZvP? Basically, huge roach pressure off 3 base to kill a greedy toss that tries to tech too hard/expand too hard, which is what i've been trying to emulate in my play, cept instead of hydras I throw in burrow + burrow movement instead to ignore FFs. If they survive, get infestors/Spire depending on their tech and expand + go hive.
Its been working pretty well so far, but could someone outline the advantages of going Stephano style roach/ling instead? I hate being caught behind the metagame, but I don't understand the big reasons to play that style instead.
Cheers.
The main difference is speed and gas usage. ling/roach is better for two pronged attacks and constant pressure, requires low gas, can produce off more hatcheries. Roach/hydra is better for a straight assault, but you can't use hydras to reinforce or cause they're too slow-- requires way more gas.
Yeah I was actually up and awake for GSL last night, but didn't have the thingy installed that is required to watch it, and I figured I was going to bed anyways. And then I ended up staying up til 6 AM O_O
I'm trying to find a sweet replay (youtube) of an epic match. Pref. no longer than 30m. I want to show a friend who is getting into sc2. I want to show him how awesome spectating can be. Preferably one with some super awesome big battle micro and announcers cause they add to the games so much. Last Year MLG vods work too as I have access to those.
Looks good, but most of the time I don't know if I want to replay an engagement until after the engagement.
Still, I like that husky is going to be showing off some custom games. We need some more fun ones here in PA.
I'd more interested in something like
-Two players open their normal way
-Save
-One goes (for example) roaches, the other goes robo
-"OK so that worked well against roaches, what else could you/I have done there?"
-Load, one goes muta, the other stays robo
-"I could see the difference at x:xx so I saved there, lets go from there and I think I should..."
Would take out a lot of the dead time in practice and make it easy to focus on specific issues
Looks good, but most of the time I don't know if I want to replay an engagement until after the engagement.
Still, I like that husky is going to be showing off some custom games. We need some more fun ones here in PA.
I'd more interested in something like
-Two players open their normal way
-Save
-One goes (for example) roaches, the other goes robo
-"OK so that worked well against roaches, what else could you/I have done there?"
-Load, one goes muta, the other stays robo
-"I could see the difference at x:xx so I saved there, lets go from there and I think I should..."
Would take out a lot of the dead time in practice and make it easy to focus on specific issues
This custom map is actually really cool, I was hoping that something like this would be made for awhile now. It's great for practice games where you want to focus on a certain aspect of your play or on a specific point in the game. For instance, if you want to practice your baneling micro in a ZvZ, you could save right before you get into a baneling war off 2 bases and go over the scenario again and again until you can control your banelings well.
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TannerMS "I'm confidence cause I'm zerg!"Registered Userregular
It'd be nice to be able to practice ZvP without the 8 minutes of droning part
Alright, cookies are in the mail.
Apparently it was cheaper to send them to Canada than it was to send to statesians, but that's mainly due to the fact that I only had one shoebox lying around at home. I'll be sure to go shoe shopping before the next time I do cookie shipments.
Looks good, but most of the time I don't know if I want to replay an engagement until after the engagement.
Still, I like that husky is going to be showing off some custom games. We need some more fun ones here in PA.
I'd more interested in something like
-Two players open their normal way
-Save
-One goes (for example) roaches, the other goes robo
-"OK so that worked well against roaches, what else could you/I have done there?"
-Load, one goes muta, the other stays robo
-"I could see the difference at x:xx so I saved there, lets go from there and I think I should..."
Would take out a lot of the dead time in practice and make it easy to focus on specific issues
This is literally something Megabuster plans to build, or at least has talked about before.
Looks good, but most of the time I don't know if I want to replay an engagement until after the engagement.
Still, I like that husky is going to be showing off some custom games. We need some more fun ones here in PA.
I'd more interested in something like
-Two players open their normal way
-Save
-One goes (for example) roaches, the other goes robo
-"OK so that worked well against roaches, what else could you/I have done there?"
-Load, one goes muta, the other stays robo
-"I could see the difference at x:xx so I saved there, lets go from there and I think I should..."
Would take out a lot of the dead time in practice and make it easy to focus on specific issues
This is literally something Megabuster plans to build, or at least has talked about before.
Its literally how pros should practice, but don't worry the powers at be which watch our forum for ideas will eventually do this now.
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Old snipes would have been helpful there.
so gosu
now to do some yabot drills
Game 5 he went 3OC and lost to a Roach Bane all-in. That is the exact opposite of 1 basing v an eco Zerg.
don't worry guys, I'm not gonna go too crazy here, it's just kind of a fun experiment for now to practice an aspect of play that I don't do for a week or so. If my win rate drops super hard, I'll go back to my super passive get 3 bases, then roach/infestor play
ZvT "Eco Bust"
Early Bust ZvZ
for ZvP, I can't decide if I want to do a destiny style Infestor/Ling 2base timing attack (I
or if I want to try: 2 base burrowed roaches which seems gimmicky, but I have lots of good success with roaches in ZvP so I think it'd be okay even if he has, like, stuff that sees detection
makes sense for him to want broods.
No way gumiho has had time to practice late game against zerg without snipe.
but then he pulled through woo
man they were such great games
The main difference is speed and gas usage. ling/roach is better for two pronged attacks and constant pressure, requires low gas, can produce off more hatcheries. Roach/hydra is better for a straight assault, but you can't use hydras to reinforce or cause they're too slow-- requires way more gas.
B.net: Kusanku
B.net: Kusanku
some of us live in europe.
So we waste our morning watching GSL instead of doing work.
I watch GSL while I work. Often with the window minimized, treating it like a radio broadcast.
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
Looks good, but most of the time I don't know if I want to replay an engagement until after the engagement.
Still, I like that husky is going to be showing off some custom games. We need some more fun ones here in PA.
Were any of the DRG/Gumiho games interesting in terms of TvZ builds?
B.net: Kusanku
this would be a pretty cool thing
good games through out the entire series, mad hype, bestest commentators, etc.
I *just* finished watching this Sheth/Illusion game that's pretty sweet:
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MTG Arena: Snow_Crash#34179
Battle.net: Snowcrash#1873
I'd more interested in something like
-Two players open their normal way
-Save
-One goes (for example) roaches, the other goes robo
-"OK so that worked well against roaches, what else could you/I have done there?"
-Load, one goes muta, the other stays robo
-"I could see the difference at x:xx so I saved there, lets go from there and I think I should..."
Would take out a lot of the dead time in practice and make it easy to focus on specific issues
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
This custom map is actually really cool, I was hoping that something like this would be made for awhile now. It's great for practice games where you want to focus on a certain aspect of your play or on a specific point in the game. For instance, if you want to practice your baneling micro in a ZvZ, you could save right before you get into a baneling war off 2 bases and go over the scenario again and again until you can control your banelings well.
Game 2 was interesting in the "how is this game still happening" sense.
Apparently it was cheaper to send them to Canada than it was to send to statesians, but that's mainly due to the fact that I only had one shoebox lying around at home. I'll be sure to go shoe shopping before the next time I do cookie shipments.
in fact, don't even bother mailing them, just put them in a box and dump them in the atlantic
they'll get to me
Top 10 girliest (most girly?) sentence in G&T this year
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
Ugh, I came here to say that Biosys' post was the post of the year. Now I'd just look like a bandwagoner.
I'll make you cookies AFTER I move to Europe. And I'll be sure to cross the Atlantic with a box of goldfish in my bag for the Trunks
Haha well, that sentence is actually a lie. I think I know women who have as many heels as I own shoes, and when I buy shoes it's cuz my old ones died
What about creating a really simple custom game where you start with the buildings and drones you have at 8:00 and/or other key timings?
For 4-player maps you could even squeeze in two sets of ZvP pairs cross-map for different timings.
the first two were worth it, definitely don't watch the last 2 gumiho fails in the same way both times doing the same thing.
This is literally something Megabuster plans to build, or at least has talked about before.
http://i.imgur.com/OySuv.gif
Its literally how pros should practice, but don't worry the powers at be which watch our forum for ideas will eventually do this now.