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I hate parties

seeekerseeeker Registered User new member
edited March 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
I hate parties. On the one hand they are a celebration of something, people being together. It's a time and place to interact with people in a new way. On the other hand, they are a contrived, stress-filled pressure cooker. Whenever I go to parties I end up standing in the corner watching people. Ido the rounds and chat with people for five or ten minutes, and when that's done I feel like people avoid me. So I end up going in circles. I'm 39, handsome, and I actually don't really have any social anxiety issues. But I am hyper aware of the dynamics and charged nonsense at parties. Everything you say has to be funny! Or exciting! Or witty! Everything you say has to effortlessly lead your conversation partner to an exciting new level of interest and wonder! And if you don't - because somehow the pressure is on YOU, not them, they look at you weird and then you both drift apart. The atmosphere is loaded with gender posturing, glances to see who you are and how comfortable you look.

Not to mention really, really loud music. You have to scream nonsense at people, then you can't hear them so you say "Whaaaaaaat?!!?" Over and over. I'm also talking about loud bars and clubs too probably.

I can't remember the last time I had a great time at a party.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Sounds like some kind of performance anxiety.

    What would you like help/advice with? If you don't like forced social situations why not just avoid them?

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Pretty much Djeet said. If you don't like them, don't go? What's making you feel obligated to go to parties you don't like?

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Why not just be yourself and stop worrying about what you think is expected of you, because there's nothing expected of you.

    Or, like Djeet and Gnome said, just don't go.

  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    Some people just don't like parties. Freshmen year of high school, each student took a meyers- briggs personality test. Apparently one of the traits of my personality is "does not like parties."

  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    I hate loud music parties too.

    In fact, I usually avoid the sort of parties that have loud music.

    Works wonders!!

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  • LanchesterLanchester Registered User regular
    seeeker wrote:
    I'm 39, handsome,

    I don't know why you threw this in here...like because you're handsome you shouldn't have issues at parties?
    seeeker wrote:
    But I am hyper aware of the dynamics and charged nonsense at parties. Everything you say has to be funny! Or exciting! Or witty! Everything you say has to effortlessly lead your conversation partner to an exciting new level of interest and wonder! And if you don't - because somehow the pressure is on YOU, not them, they look at you weird and then you both drift apart. The atmosphere is loaded with gender posturing, glances to see who you are and how comfortable you look.

    I'm not sure what kind of parties you are going to, but they don't seem to be ones that contain a group of some of your friends. You also seem to over analyze things WAY too much, which would be my explanation as to why you hate parties. If you go in with all these expectations of "trying to look comfortable" and having an exciting interesting conversation...then you're already putting to much pressure on yourself and your not going to enjoy yourself.

    The whole point of a party is to relax and have fun. Talk about similar interests, etc. If you think you have to do all this stuff, you're not with people where you feel comfortable just being you. And if that's the case...why are you going in the first place?

  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    oldsak wrote: »
    Some people just don't like parties. Freshmen year of high school, each student took a meyers- briggs personality test. Apparently one of the traits of my personality is "does not like parties."

    Then a week later it was, "fucking loves parties."

    Meyers-Briggs is not a good test...

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    You need to drink more alcohol

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    You don't have to be the comedian at a party. You could just actively listen. If you don't like telling stories about what's going on in your life, other people would LOVE to tell you theirs.

  • seeekerseeeker Registered User new member
    edited March 2012
    Wow that was a lot of responses and fast....

    Obviously I could avoid them altogether. But now and then there is something going on that everyone is going to, and you're kind of expected to go to maintain a place in the group. The reason I mentioned "handsome..." not that it matters, I'm just thinking of this particular situation, an upcoming birthday/dance party - where I'm friendly with several girls and they're all asking me "you're going right?" "It's going to be sooo much fun!" And I'm thinking "Ok?" People assume because if I am sometimes charming in one situation that it will automatically convert to being the life of the party or something. I'm more of a people watcher, and I am definitely not the life of a party. Maybe this is an example of the fictitious pressure I put on myself.

    I do feel like it's a performance, like the pressure is on me to take people for a wild ride, escalate, flirt, end up getting some girl to do something naughty or something. I'd rather be chatting with someone over a glass of wine somewhere.

    Yes I do over analyze. And yes, the parties I ever go to (maybe one a year at most) I usually know like two people, so it's a lot of awkward conversations. It's all in the attitude of course, and my outlook is admittedly quite negative on this subject. Who knows. I just know I've been asked by three girls to be sure I'm going to this party on Friday ("It's going to be amazing!") And I really couldn't give a toss...

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    The girls are inviting you because people like to see people they know at parties; it makes them feel comfortable and feel like they're part of a group. They're not inviting you because they expect you to light up the room or go crazy. That shit's for movies and TV. You really just need to relax, hang out, chat with some people you know, chat with some people you don't, and try to have a good time. At worst you lose a Friday night, at best maybe you make a new friend or plan some group activity.

    That said, if you don't enjoy yourself and would rather be doing something else, by all means do something else.

  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    People like when other people are interested in them.

    Be interested in other people.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Sometimes there is a forced element in the interactions that occur at social gatherings, but it's not something to stress over.

    You should feel free to: not attend, attend but not put in much effort in manufacturing conversation, or if you want the interpersonal interaction but don't want to "perform"much you could change your interaction to one of using questions to draw people out and have them explain themselves in depth. People fucking love talking, especially about their own ideas/perspectives.

    Some people naturally have the talent to be "on", and some people have to work at it more. My wife and one of my good friends really come off well at social gatherings (their occupations are naturally "face-time" heavy), and they prefer to be homebodies as they are "on" all the time at work. Myself, I rarely interact with customers, and have trained (well, worked out with) my vendors and colleagues to interact with me via email, so I very much enjoy the human interaction that I get at social gatherings. That said, I only like friends and family gatherings, where the ice need not be broken and we can talk about religion, politics, economics, or whatever else might be controversial without having to feel one another out on the weather or how the major local sports franchise is doing.

  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    I don't think I've ever had fun at a party that wasn't mostly my friends group, or at least acquaintances. For what its worth I'm a very introverted individual and I'm not usually comfortable talking to people I don't know in real life. So I generally don't go to parties unless I know there are several people that I can talk with throughout the night, the other thing is these parties you are going to don't sound like your cup of tea. Not every party needs to have loud music, I know when my roomates and I threw a lot of parties we had music going, but you could easily have a conversation over it without having to yell. Hell my favorite parties usually just involve some drinking games and a couch with about 6-10 people

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    It seems like you approach parties as if there is a role for you to play. That isn't the case. People don't invite you to perform, and as you've explained, based on your past experiences at parties there's little reason anyone would invite you back. Yet you are still asked about parties and people seem to want you to go, so that means the problem isn't inherently you -- it's how you view these events.

    Not all parties are equal, and while I like hanging out with friends, I personally know that I don't like loud places and parties based on just "chillin" forever, because I tend to be the odd-man out with my hard-to-explain job, a voice that projects very poorly in loud places, and a difficulty in hearing people well in loud situations. My solution was to organize my own parties/get togethers and when I was invited to hang out with friends I made sure to propose some ideas for activities instead of just "going along."

    For this Friday party, just go. Don't act a role, don't try to be the life of the party, don't try to be funny or entertaining. Just be yourself, with a positive spin. Hang out with these woman that pressured you to go and don't assume that others at the party are judging you.

    Wallflowers at parties are hard to interact with because their body language says "I'm not having a good time and I don't want to talk to you." Almost anything is better than being a wallflower, even if you're not participating. What kind of party is this? Are y'all playing beer pong or just sitting around or what?

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  • KiasKias Registered User regular
    Lots of good points, so I will be brief and just reiterate this point: relax and if you are going to a party, go to have fun. Some parties are just an excuse to drink with people, some revolve around an activity or event, and some are more formal. There really isn't a single sort of gathering and over-analyzing the social structure of the party and how to "do it right" will just detract from the fun. And if the idea of a party doesn't sound fun, don't go! If no one at the party interests you or the type of gathering isn't something you would do just for kicks, then why waste your time?

    But seriously, don't over think how you look or how others may be viewing you. Who cares? At the best sort of parties, bars or what have you (not the pretentious 'go to be seen' spots), everyone is there to relax and unwind, usually from the exact pressures you are describing (i.e. acting right at work, not telling a customer to go F*** himself, being polite to in-laws, etc.). Especially if everyone is a few drinks in, there is really no pressure at all beyond having fun, which is something you choose to do on your own and then share with others, not something you provide or are given by those around you!

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  • KurneaKurnea Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    You need to drink more alcohol

    Just in case anyone might toss that aside as a joke response, alcohol is at parties for a reason. Yes, it can be used to get smashed and forget all of your inhibitions, but used appropriately it can take the edge off of social anxiety. A glass or two of wine can be the difference between feeling that everyone is judging you and being relatively comfortable with yourself.

  • The LandoStanderThe LandoStander Registered User regular
    I have shocking information relevant to this conversation! Actually it's just an interview I heard recently but it deals with introversion and shyness which are not the same thing.

    It sounds like maybe you're just not finding yourself attending parties that are really your style. The loud music thing in particular makes me think of those raucous parties from college that were had at the rented house or the off campus apartment and such. What are some of your interests? I would imagine that games and gaming might be one interest given your presence here on the PA forums. Maybe a LAN party or arranging something yourself where perhaps the focus of the party is a multiplayer sort of game be it a video game or board games or trivia.

    I find that within my social group whenever we have a get together I tend to pack up my 360 and some multiplayer games and bring them along just in case. Sometimes the party winds up just being a lot of talking and laughing and eating and such while other times being able to laugh a bit as people bash Katamaris into each other or making jokes about how insane the old X-men arcade game is/was turn out to be a good way for folks to enjoy the evening. But that kind of requires a well established and perhaps somewhat static group of friends and acquaintances and party locations conducive to such arrangements.

    So try hosting a party if you can or maybe find a party that has a bit of a focus on an activity or interest and get an idea of what your ideal party situation is.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Also try going to parties in small doses. If what you hate is the crowd, go really early and talk to the hosts (if there are hosts); maybe help them set up if you want to make an impression. Then, when the party gets too crowded, say goodbye to the people you know and just leave. Or you can try to make yourself invisible for most of the party and then start to interact with people at the end when they start leaving. Coming to parties with a friend is a good idea to prevent you from being isolated (just make sure this person has an alternate ride solution if you want to bail) and in the movies it's always cool to step outside with your conversation partner for a bit to get above all the hubbub.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The fact that you view people at parties with such disdain and over-analyze the group dynamics probably has much more to do with why people tend to avoid you than with how shallow they are. But if you don't like parties, just avoid them.

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  • DakataDakata Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Druhim wrote: »
    The fact that you view people at parties with such disdain and over-analyze the group dynamics probably has much more to do with why people tend to avoid you than with how shallow they are. But if you don't like parties, just avoid them.

    @Druhim pretty much hits the nail on the head.

    I'm the same way man. I like small gatherings; not places were I can't hear a damn thing. In all honesty you think too much. Just go out there or not. No one is forcing you. I'm never inside hthe house at most parties. I'm usually outside bullshitting with technicians.

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  • garroad_rangarroad_ran Registered User regular
    I share your plight. I despise parties as well! Especially the music. If I stay at a party for too long, I'll invariably end up in a small bout of depression. However, for all the reasons you listed, and perhaps moreso because of my particular line of work, there is a lot of reasons for why going to them can be a good thing.

    The method I've worked out that works for me is to always have an escape strategy. My usual MO is to plan to be at the party for about an hour or 90 minutes, and then take off. That means, for example, that I will almost never get a ride with someone going to a party or give rides to people (unless different return arrangements are made), because otherwise I'd have to wait until whoever I was carpooling with was ready to leave. If circumstances lead to me staying longer, then that's great! But taking my parties in small doses really does the trick for me.
    There are other things I do as well. I won't attend a party with live music, for example. But that's just because I know what makes me tick and what things I really can't stand. On the other hand, as someone mentioned earlier, if I know there's gonna be some video gaming or board gaming at a party, I'll be more inclined to break with my "escape strategy" because I know I'm more likely to enjoy the party if there's actual activities involved.

  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    I hate parties too. I don't go to parties. It's easily solvable.

  • OP if you over-analyze, you will look tense, if you look tense people will avoid you, handsome or not. So try to relax and pretend to be interested in what other people have to say. They will feel valued and in turn will react positively to your own stories. The cliche of everyone being witty only exists in movies. In real life, people say boring, uninteresting stuff all the time, everywhere you go. You don't need to be James Bond to enjoy yourself. You just have to break the anxiety cycle. That's it.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Dakata wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    The fact that you view people at parties with such disdain and over-analyze the group dynamics probably has much more to do with why people tend to avoid you than with how shallow they are. But if you don't like parties, just avoid them.

    @Druhim pretty much hits the nail on the head.

    I'm the same way man. I like small gatherings; not places were I can't hear a damn thing. In all honesty you think too much. Just go out there or not. No one is forcing you. I'm never inside hthe house at most parties. I'm usually outside bullshitting with technicians.

    And to clarify, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with feeling uncomfortable at parties. I used to be a lot like that when I was younger but as I got older I both found it easier to relate to others while also understanding when I'd had enough and it was time to leave for some quiet time. Nothing wrong with not enjoying big parties. However when you turn that into judging everyone else at the party as being shallow and beneath you because they don't want to put up with your attitude, well that's all on you seeker. :)

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2012
    Also looks don't have nearly as much to do with how much people want to engage with you at a party as you seem to think it does. Someone that's "plain looking" but is really fun and/or interesting or is very outgoing and empathetic will engage people much more effectively than someone who looks attractive but has the personality of a dead fish.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    I think you might have skipped the chapter in the book of socializing on the token appearance. Say you don't want to go to a party but people you know/like are expecting you to come. Do a token appearance! Simply show up somewhere in the early to middle stage of the party, make your rounds catching up with people or whatever, have a drink or two (obviously, don't drink and drive, two drinks probably requires some waiting time before departure) if you're so inclined, then make a "I have to leave now, thanks for inviting me" round to the most important people to you, then leave.
    It's a quick in-out type thing, it tells your people "I see that you have invited me to a social gathering and I appreciate that you've done so and I'm interested in continuing being part of your social circle, so thanks" and it keeps you from lingering in a social setting you don't particularly care for.

    Alternatively you could simply become the life of the party by bringing the beer-bong. Bonus points if you're the oldest at the party by 15 years.

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  • Cultural Geek GirlCultural Geek Girl Registered User regular
    I hate loud music. I have mild hearing loss, and I can't hear most conversation at a party with loud music. I also don't feel comfortable at what you seem to see as the most common variety of party.

    What I do enjoy is the fringes of parties. I usually end up in the kitchen making drinks, or outside on the porch with the smokers, or on the roof with the roof people. Roof people are the best. People tend to be more chill at the fringes of parties, and if you give yourself a task to do (like bartending or refilling snacks or helping the host or hostess) the pressure of conversation feels reduced.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    I can't emphasize this enough...

    People like to talk about themselves.

    This is the easiest way to get through a party. Just ask the people you are with about themselves. "What do you do for work? Where did you go to school? What do you think about the local sports team?"

    Broad topics to start are great. Then ask follow up questions to keep the conversation moving. "Oh, your an accountant? That sounds great. How do those actuarial tables i have been hearing all about work?" And so on.

    If you can steer the conversation to a topic you actually enjoy as well, then you will hit the jackpot and really have a great conversation.

    Note, some people are sticks in the mud and will have monosyllabic answers for you... just move on to someone else.

    Protip. This works in any conversational setting!

    Extra protip. The less you say, and the more you allow them to drone on about their interests the more they will remember you as a great conversationalist!

    I am a huge introvert, when i discovered this it opened up a whole world to me. I love meeting people now.

  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    You’re normal. Parties generally suck unless everybody knows everybody or there are wonderful hosts introducing everybody. There’s a reason most people stop having them after their mid-twenties. If parties are a big part of socializing where you live, consider moving.

  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    You overthink

    believe it or not people aren't posturing all the time.

    You seem to be

    that is why you hate parties

    Everything you say doesn't have to be a damn thing. Talk about whatever the fuck interests you with people you hope may be into the same thing or god forbid maybe learn about something they like

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