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  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Don't make voting mandatory

    Please don't

    It will not suddenly make the entire population decide to get clued and bring in a wonderful utopian paradise

    A lot of people honestly do not give a damn

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    l8e1peic77w3.jpg

  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    i wonder what would happen if Zimmerman was tried and acquitted

    i doubt the reaction will be begrudging acceptance of the determination by our justice system

    I've always thought Orlando could use a good riot.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Don't make voting mandatory

    Please don't

    It will not suddenly make the entire population decide to get clued and bring in a wonderful utopian paradise

    A lot of people honestly do not give a damn

    to vote on gay marriage text QUEERS to 49503

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Xehalus wrote: »

    hey, I know her!

  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Yeah Zimmerman did suffer some minor injuries, he had to be treated by the paramedics after the police showed up.

    What this comes down to is basically who was screaming help on those 9/11 tapes.

    dbrock270 on
  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    i wonder what would happen if Zimmerman was tried and acquitted

    i doubt the reaction will be begrudging acceptance of the determination by our justice system

    Probably be another O.J., where everyone "knows" he's guilty no matter what the courts say.

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Quoth wrote: »
    I want Zimmerman to be arrested so he can have a real trial instead of this ridiculous trial by media

    This, this, one thousand times this.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »

    hey, I know her!

    is she as big an asshole as that sign implies

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Don't make voting mandatory

    Please don't

    It will not suddenly make the entire population decide to get clued and bring in a wonderful utopian paradise

    A lot of people honestly do not give a damn

    voter interest (or lack thereof) is a problem

    but yes, I do not think this is the way to deal with it

    I'd rather we reformed voting, showed people it matters again, and let them start doing it on their own

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    does the stand your ground law ONLY allow you to shoot someone who is threatening you? or does it also allow you to beat the crap out of a creepy white guy who is tailing you in his car for no reason

    Jasconius on
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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    yes that is the only way an injury to the head can be sustained and not during the on-the-ground scuffle that was reported by multiple witnesses

    you know

    the fight between a kid who's 6'3 and 140 lbs and the adult who outweighs him by 100

    the adult who had the gun

    zimmerman should be in jail hth

  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    I do not care for that sign one bit

    destroying religion sounds like a pretty asshole thing to do

    @Kuribo's Shoe Shoe, I don't know if I've told you this lately, but you're a pretty cool guy.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    we've known there was some kind of a fight for a while

    the bit i take issue with is where he claims martin jumped him out of nowhere because that part is demonstrably a load of bullshit

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    the idea that zimm shouldn't at least be tried on *some* criminal charge mildly implies it's OK to fuck with people until you provoke them to attack you


    I'd say in scenarios where we have a dead person and a smoking gun we should at least try a little before we close the books.

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  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    The story has always been there was an altercation between the two before Zimmerman shot him.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    wait, what

    Centipede Damascus on
  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    From what I read earlier, Zimmerman did not require medical attention when police arrived at the scene, and only one "witness" is supporting Zimmerman, and everything else is his lawyer spouting his mouth off on the news.

  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    wait, what

    4chan: No Low Is Low Enough.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    the idea that zimm shouldn't at least be tried on *some* criminal charge mildly implies it's OK to fuck with people until you provoke them to attack you


    I'd say in scenarios where we have a dead person and a smoking gun we should at least try a little before we close the books.

    yes this, this is the most infuriating thing, that the police didn't even try, just went "welp fuck it that kid was black" and dusted their hands off

  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I've also come to the conclusion that Zimmerman is a confused adrenaline junkie who used the "n" word towards Martin and appropriately got his ass handed to him and reverted to his usual coward self by using a gun to "prove" his manhood. I hope he doesn't get away with this, but he probably will.

    Xehalus on
  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    i sure hope there aren't people who have jumped to conclusions on the jury if this goes to trial

    Ubik on
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  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I've also come to the conclusion that Zimmerman is a confused adrenaline junkie who used the "n" word towards Martin and appropriately got his ass handed to him and reverted to his usual coward self by using a gun to "prove" his manhood. I hope he doesn't get away with this, but he probably will.

    Actually he said "coon" but Zimmerman's friend who's come forward to speak on the media for him, who is coincidentally black, is saying he said "goon" on the 9/11 tapes, and he says goon is a term of endearment.

  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    Butters, go listen to the 911 tapes, and then tell me Zimmerman didn't have it in his head to start some shit.

    Besides, shooting a kid after he beat your ass for spouting off racial epithets and harassing him for no damn reason is pretty fucked up.

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    4ch"lets make prank call the parents of suicide child" a

    4ch"lets bully rude 11 year olds"an

  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »

    hey, I know her!

    is she as big an asshole as that sign implies

    no, she's actually delightful, the sign is tongue-in-cheek

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    we've known there was some kind of a fight for a while

    the bit i take issue with is where he claims martin jumped him out of nowhere because that part is demonstrably a load of bullshit

    please

    demonstrate how it's bullshit

    zimmerman says martin jumped him when he stepped out of the car

    except the tapes "show" him getting out of the car and following martin (show's not the right word but you know what i mean please let's not do a semantics dance on that one)

    wow it's almost like he made up getting jumped and is actually the aggressor in this situation

    Buttlord on
  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    yes that is the only way an injury to the head can be sustained and not during the on-the-ground scuffle that was reported by multiple witnesses

    you know

    the fight between a kid who's 6'3 and 140 lbs and the adult who outweighs him by 100

    the adult who had the gun

    zimmerman should be in jail hth

    to be fair, Zimmerman may have outweighed him, but he's only 5'9", half a foot shorter

    and I seriously doubt that that 100 lbs. difference is anything like muscle based on the pictures I've seen of him

    I have no doubt that if Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, he wouldn't have initiated contact with Martin

  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Don't make voting mandatory

    Please don't

    It will not suddenly make the entire population decide to get clued and bring in a wonderful utopian paradise

    A lot of people honestly do not give a damn

    voter interest (or lack thereof) is a problem

    but yes, I do not think this is the way to deal with it

    I'd rather we reformed voting, showed people it matters again, and let them start doing it on their own

    You'll be able to push the number of voters up, but you'll never be able to get everyone into voting.

    Some people just don't do politics. Expect a lot to vote on the big elections, but you're never going to get everyone jumping into the local stuff.

  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    we've known there was some kind of a fight for a while

    the bit i take issue with is where he claims martin jumped him out of nowhere because that part is demonstrably a load of bullshit

    please

    demonstrate how it's bullshit

    zimmerman says martin jumped him when he stepped out of the car

    except the tapes "show" him getting out of the car and following martin (show's not the right word but you know what i mean please let's not do a semantics dance on that one)

    wow it's almost like he made up getting jumped and is actually the aggressor in this situation

    huh because the thing i read said he got jumped as he was turning to return to his car

    it's like there's more going on than the conclusion you jumped to based on your sense of injustice

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Don't make voting mandatory

    Please don't

    It will not suddenly make the entire population decide to get clued and bring in a wonderful utopian paradise

    A lot of people honestly do not give a damn

    voter interest (or lack thereof) is a problem

    but yes, I do not think this is the way to deal with it

    I'd rather we reformed voting, showed people it matters again, and let them start doing it on their own

    You'll be able to push the number of voters up, but you'll never be able to get everyone into voting.

    Some people just don't do politics. Expect a lot to vote on the big elections, but you're never going to get everyone jumping into the local stuff.

    well, yeah, obviously

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I've also come to the conclusion that Zimmerman is a confused adrenaline junkie who used the "n" word towards Martin and appropriately got his ass handed to him and reverted to his usual coward self by using a gun to "prove" his manhood. I hope he doesn't get away with this, but he probably will.

    Actually he said "coon" but Zimmerman's friend who's come forward to speak on the media for him, who is coincidentally black, is saying he said "goon" on the 9/11 tapes, and he says goon is a term of endearment.

    i always knew those somethingawfulers were up to no good

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    Butters, go listen to the 911 tapes, and then tell me Zimmerman didn't have it in his head to start some shit.

    Besides, shooting a kid after he beat your ass for spouting off racial epithets and harassing him for no damn reason is pretty fucked up.

    the "spouting racial epithets" part is kiiiiiinda a thing we don't have any evidence for beyond a word on a tape that may or may not be a racial slur

  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    Butters, go listen to the 911 tapes, and then tell me Zimmerman didn't have it in his head to start some shit.

    Besides, shooting a kid after he beat your ass for spouting off racial epithets and harassing him for no damn reason is pretty fucked up.

    the "spouting racial epithets" part is kiiiiiinda a thing we don't have any evidence for beyond a word on a tape that may or may not be a racial slur

    Fair enough.

    Still, some dude chases me around in a car for no damn reason, I'm gonna get pretty freaked out, racial bullshit or no.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    arrest zim on at least manslaughter, gag order the lawyers, set trial date
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    Weaver on
  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    also i'd like to point out, unless FLA law is seriously fucked up and not instep with the norm, that "Stand Your Ground" or any self-defense doesn't allow you to provoke an altercation and then hide behind it

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    So 4chan's /pol/ right now is trying to run a smear campaign against Trayvon Martin by hacking into his Facebook.

    Also,

    Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

    I want the evidence to presented so I can get to the bottom of this case, because I feel like the media is pushing us to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

    Zimmerman's lawyer is claiming he has a broken nose
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i mean zimmerman also says that martin came up behind him when he got out of his truck to check what street he was on

    despite the 911 tape that shows A) he knew where he was and B) he got out of the car to start following martin

    so right there i've stopped believing anything out of zimmerman's mouth

    what about the injuries on his head and the unequivocal statement of a witness

    Yeah this whole assumption that the dude just walked up and shot a kid because he was wearing a hooded shirt has confused the shit out of me since day one. Now is Al Sharpton going to tell us that after shooting him he punched his own nose and beat his own head against the pavement?

    we've known there was some kind of a fight for a while

    the bit i take issue with is where he claims martin jumped him out of nowhere because that part is demonstrably a load of bullshit

    please

    demonstrate how it's bullshit

    zimmerman says martin jumped him when he stepped out of the car

    except the tapes "show" him getting out of the car and following martin (show's not the right word but you know what i mean please let's not do a semantics dance on that one)

    wow it's almost like he made up getting jumped and is actually the aggressor in this situation

    huh because the thing i read said he got jumped as he was turning to return to his car

    it's like there's more going on than the conclusion you jumped to based on your sense of injustice

    no you're right it was a clear cut case of self defense after he pursued a kid for no reason other than being black and wearing a hoodie

    he was totally in the clear on this one

  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    all elections are rigged

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