The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.

[Chaos] CitOW Game 77 - In doldari's 6th Old World, who will be able to destroy it?

doldaridoldari Registered User regular
edited May 2012 in Critical Failures
pic955226_md.jpg

Welcome to Chaos in the Old World, Fantasy Flight Games' boardgame take at Games Workshop's famous fantasy IP. In this game, players take the role of one of the four Ruinous Powers of the universe (and a fifth, uninvited guest). Speaking of which, I believe this calls for some introductions.

MrBody as Khorne
The Blood god - murder, maim, kill. Tends to win by dial victory, and earns advances by killing enemy figures. Straightforward to play, but must keep a close watch on everything that is happening to extend the game long enough to achieve victory (he needs nine dial ticks, so he has to double tick multiple times and prevent others from winning by VP before he gets there).
pic1000651.jpg

pesky as Nurgle
The Lord of Pestilence - spreading filth and disease among the cities and towns. Longest dial track, making a dial victory difficult, if not impossible. But Nurgle can benefit from others' ruinations and can shoot up the VP track in the mid-to-late game. Never out of contention.
pic1000652.jpg

susan as Tzeentch
The Changer of Ways - making plans and reshaping reality to suit himself. Tzeentch is the most reliant of all the gods on his Chaos cards; his are cheaper and he gets to draw more of them than anyone else. Depending on the Old World deck, he can go for either a dial or VP victory, but he has to find Warpstones and cast magic spells in order to prepare regions for ideal corruption.
pic1000654.jpg

BlackRaider as Slaanesh
the Prince of Pleasure (and pain) - seducing the nobility and heroes of the land, swaying them to his side. With the shortest dial track, Slaanesh can win without ever double-ticking, and by focusing on regions with nobles can build up VP quickly.
pic1000653.jpg

SeGaTai as the Horned Rat
The Undying Schemer - rising from under the ground with his skittering horde. Rather than seeking to corrupt the Old World, the Horned Rat instead strains to overrun it, with more figures than any other god and abilities that enhance their mobility.
pic1026636_lg.jpg

----

This will be a Play-By-Post game of Chaos in the Old World for 5 players. Invitations will be taken from the discussion thread and offered to the top 5 players on the main list who wish to play Morrslieb only, expert OWC only.

Rules in effect for this game:
Morrslieb decks for Chaos cards
Expert set of Old World cards
Khorne's Bloodletter upgrade is changed by base Bloodletter upgrade


[RULES]
[FAQ]
[EXPANSION RULES]
[Headless Hollow Rules Summary]

Credits of Chaos
Adam Bloom for his rocking Handtracker site.
FWD for the awesome board app.
Mr.Blarney for the original design of our PbP board.
Rend for the comprehensive OP.
Darian for bringing order to chaos as games manager and our resident rules lawyer.


Previous games, aka recommended reading before playing, are linked from the CF Boardgame Index

General discussion thread for Chaos in the Old World is available here

doldari on
«13456789

Posts

  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    From Rend: A QUICK TUTORIAL ON CHAOS IN THE OLD WORLD
    -The Turn Phases-

    The Old World Phase
    This phase is much like the crisis phase in BSG, the infection phase in Pandemic, or the "Bad Stuff" phase in any cooperative board game. Except this game isn't so much "cooperative" as it is "petty". Each turn, events will take place in the old world, and this is when they happen.

    Every turn one old world card will be drawn, and its effects will be resolved. If there are any choices to be made, the power with the least threat will make those choices. (Threat is determined by who has advanced their victory dial the farthest)

    Note: There are only 7 cards in the Old World deck. If the cards have been exhausted, the game ends at the end of the turn. If nobody has achieved a victory condition, the Old World has won- and all players lose.

    The Draw Phase
    During this phase, each power draws 2 cards, except Tzeentch. Tzeentch draws his hand up to 5. Also, this is when each player refreshes their Power Points to however many applicable.

    The Summoning Phase
    This phase always starts with Khorne, and goes:
    Khorne
    Nurgle
    Tzeentch
    Slaanesh
    Horned Rat

    Starting with Khorne, each player may either summon 1 figure or play 1 chaos card. In order to do so, you spend Power Points. The cost for figures is the circled value on your power's card. Then there are also attack and defend stats, which will be explained in further detail in The Battle Phase.

    Chaos Cards each have a cost directly following their name in Handtracker. Additionally, if the cost of your card is followed by M, that means there is a magic symbol on it. If you play that card onto a region, that region gains 1 magic symbol.

    Chaos cards are played directly onto one of the nine regions. Each region only has room for 2 cards, but they are cleared at the end phase after all effects are resolved.

    If a player chooses neither to summon nor play a card, he passes and his power points go to 0. He may not play again this phase.
    Additionally, if a player reaches 0 power points for ANY REASON, they may not play again this phase, EVEN IF THAT PLAYER HAS 0-cost cards or effects. Once you reach 0 power points, you are out of the turn phase, and are skipped until the next turn.

    If you have no figures on the board, figures may be summoned to any region. If you have at least one figure on the board, you must summon to that region or an adjacent region. Figures may be summoned either from your reinforcements, OR from the board itself. There is no discount for summoning figures from the board, it simply allows you to move figures instead of summoning new ones if you wish. You may summon a figure from a region in order to place him in an adjacent region even if none of your other figures are adjacent to that region (ie, a single figure can "walk" across the entire map alone).

    When making a play during the summoning phase, your entire post should be colored properly. All summoning phase plays should include the PP (power points) remaining, and you should fully quote the text of any Chaos cards played in addition to linking the played card in Handtracker.

    The Battle Phase
    In this phase, dice are rolled. All combat is considered simultaneous, however, hits are chosen in the Order of Play (Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Horned Rat). Each figure with at least 1 attack power rolls a number of dice equal to that attack power. Any dice of 4 or better are hits. The player then designates those hits among any enemy figures in the region.

    You may not allocate more hits than necessary to kill an opponent.
    You must allocate all hits.

    Any figures which are killed will die at the end of the phase. However, unless the hits which killed it happened before normal dice are rolled, they may still return fire.

    The Corruption Phase
    The Corruption Phase takes place in 2 steps. Domination, and Corruption

    In the Domination step, each player's domination value is calculated for each region. This value is equal to the PP cost of any chaos cards that player has played on the region, plus the number of figures (number, not attack power) that player has in the region. If this number exceeds the region's resistance (which is the number by the region's name), and that player has the highest domination score, that player dominates the region and gains Victory Points equal to the region's number.
    If two players are tied for first, or if the top player is tied with the region's resistance, no VPs are awarded. Additionally, no VPs are awarded for ruined regions.

    In the Corruption step, each cultist a player has in a region adds one Corruption Counter to that region. An exception to this rule is the Horned Rat, whom is incapable of adding corruption at all. If a region should reach 12 or more corruption counters, it then becomes ruined.
    When a region becomes ruined, it indicates that the Chaos has taken it over so completely that it is no longer even recognizable. It is now a hellish, daemonic wasteland. First, one of the 5 ruination cards is flipped (the cards go in order, so the values are the same from game to game). Each player who put a corruption counter on the region DURING THE STEP IT WAS RUINED gains a small amount of VPs instantaneously, decided by the card. Also, a Horned Rat player will receive these points as well if he or she has figures occupying the region at the time of its ruination. Later this turn, the player with the most and the second most Corruption in the area gain a large lump sum of VPs as well. After the region is ruined, NO VPs will EVER come of the region again.
    If two players are tied for first, they add the first and second place values together and split them. If two players are tied for second, they split second place. If there is no second place, and only one player has counters, the second place VPs are wasted. Again, the Horned Rat is a special case, and any figures present at the time of scoring will count as corruption equal to the figure's cost. For example, a Clan Rat (1) and a Rat Ogre (2) would count as three corruption when scoring a ruined region.

    If, at the end of the turn, all 5 Ruination cards have been flipped, the game ends and the player with the most VPs wins the game.

    The End Phase
    During the end phase:
    1. Remove Chaos Cards from the Board
    2. Hero Tokens are resolved - meaning that in any region with a hero token, the daemon with the highest threat in that region must sacrifice one figure, as the hero kills it.
    3. Resolve Old World cards - If a card on the Old World track asks for a resolution during the end phase, this is when it happens.
    4. Score Ruined Regions - this is the step when first/second place ruination is scored
    5. Advance Threat Dials - If you have fulfilled your victory dial condition at least once, you turn your dial one click. If you have fulfilled your condition more times this turn than any other player, you turn your dial two clicks. This dial gives various rewards, including Upgrades, VPs, and control of the tokens on the board.
    6. Check for Game end
    The game end conditions are checked one at a time, in this order:

    Dial Victory
    Victory Point Victory
    All 5 ruination cards drawn (most VPs wins)
    No cards in the Old World deck (All players lose)

    In the case of a dial victory tie, the player with most VPs wins. If they are tied, the victory is shared.
    In the case of a VP victory tie, the player with the highest threat wins.

    How do I gain victory points?
    Gain victory points in 5 ways:
    1. Dominating regions at the end of the battle phase
    2. Helping to ruin regions by placing corruption counters on them during the step in which ruination occurs
    3. Ruining regions and having most or second most counters on the region
    4. Sometimes, by advancing your victory dial
    5. Some chaos cards can grant you victory points.

    The most reliable points come from Domination, while the quickest points come from ruining regions.

    Useful information:
    STANDARD REGION ORDER
    1. Norsca
    2. Troll Country
    3. Kislev
    4. The Empire
    5. Bretonnia
    6. Estalia
    7. Tilea
    8. The Border Princes
    9. The Badlands

    PLAYER MATS:
    Khorne
    pic545594_md.jpg
    Nurgle
    pic545599_md.jpg
    Tzeentch
    pic545604_md.jpg
    Slaanesh
    Slaanesh.jpg
    Horned Rat
    hr.jpg

    DIAL ADVANCEMENT BONUSES:
    pic544561_lg.jpg
    hrd.png
    Khorne: 9 clicks
    Nurgle: 10 clicks
    Tzeentch: 8 clicks
    Slaanesh: 7 clicks
    Horned Rat: 8 clicks

    BASE UPGRADES:
    Khorne Upgrades:
    Upgrades:
    Power of Blood - +1 PP per turn
    Deluge of Ferocity - Draw 3 cards instead of 2 each turn
    Bloodsworn - Stats: (1/1/1)
    Bloodletters - Bloodletters strike first and inflict casualties before opponents return fire
    Bloodthirster - Counts as 3 figures for domination value

    Nurgle Upgrades:
    Power of Pestilence - +1 PP per turn
    Provender of Ruin - Score 3 VP each time a region is ruined
    Lepers - A Leper's cost is 0 if placed in a region where you have no other figures. A given leper may only be summoned for free once per round.
    Plaguebearers - When an opponent kills one of your plaguebearers in battle, inflict one hit on any figure in the same region belonging to that opponent
    Great Unclean One - Immediately place two corruption tokens in a region when you summon a Great Unclean One there

    Tzeentch Upgrades:
    Power of Magic - +1 PP per turn
    Deluge of Magic - Draw to 6 cards per turn instead of 5
    Acolytes - When summoned from the board instead of your stockpile, an Acolyte may bring a Warpstone token if present from its origin to its destination
    Horrors - When you summon a horror, you may place it on an empty card slot in that region. Only you may play cards to that slot while the horror remains.
    Lord of Change - A Lord of Change has 2 magic symbols.

    Slaanesh Upgrades:
    Power of Pain - +1 PP per turn. If you have power of pain and power of pleasure, total +3
    Power of Pleasure - +1 PP per turn. If you have power of pain and power of pleasure, total +3
    Seductress - New stats (1/0/2)
    Daemonettes - In battle, Daemonettes can only be hit on a die result of 6
    Keeper of Secrets - At the beginning of the battle phase, choose any cultist or warrior in this region. Control it until the end of the round or until your keeper of secrets is killed, whichever comes first.

    MORRSLIEB UPGRADES
    Khorne Upgrades:
    Crimson Tide - Each time you dominate a region, draw one Chaos card.
    Vengeance - In any region where you are rolling at least one battle die, you may roll one additional battle die.
    Bloodsworn - Each Bloodworn counts as two figures toward your domination value of any region that it occupies.
    Bloodletters - You gain two victory points each time you kill a figure in a region containing a Bloodletter.
    Bloodthirster - Once per round during the summoning phase, you may summon a Bloodthirster for 0 power into a region that contains six or more corruption tokens once per round.

    Nurgle Upgrades:
    Cavalcade of Decay - Any region containing five or more Cultists is considered Populous.
    Infested Colony - When you dominate a region, place two corruption tokens in that region.
    Lepers - When your Lepers place at least one corruption token in a region during the corruption phase, you may place one additional corruption token in that region.
    Plaguebearers - When a Plaguebearer is killed during the battle phase, place one of your corruption tokens in that region.
    Great Unclean One - For every figure you kill in the same region as a Great Unclean One, you may place one corruption token in that region.

    Tzeentch Upgrades:
    Mystical Disregard - Once per round, you may play a Chaos card on top of an opponent's Chaos card, canceling its effect. The card you play must have power equal to or greater than the card you cover.
    Well of Power - During the summoning phase, instead of summoning a figure or playing a Chaos card, you may spend one power point to draw one Chaos card.
    Acolytes - Once per round during the battle phase, you may discard a card from your hand to cancel one hit assigned to one of your Acolytes.
    Horrors - When you play a Chaos card with a magic symbol, you may immediately summon a Horror to that region for 0 power.
    Lord of Change - When you summon a Lord of Change into a region, you may place one Warpstone token in that region.

    Slaanesh Upgrades:
    Fall from Grace - If you place three or more corruption tokens in a region with a Noble or Hero token, collect two dial advancement counters instead of only one.
    Rise to Glory - When calculating domination in a region, each noble token adds one to your domination value in that region.
    Seductresses - When summoned from the board (rather than from your stockpile), a Seductress figure may bring a Noble token (if present) from its origin region to its destination region.
    Daemonettes - When you summon a Daemonette into a region, you may take control of an opponent's Cultist in that region until the end of the turn. (Place the Cultist next to the Daemonette as a reminder.)
    Keeper of Secrets - A Keeper of Secrets counts as three Noble tokens.

    Horned Rat* Upgrades:
    The Council of Thirteen - Once per round during the summoning phase, you may play a Chaos card into a region whose card spaces are full. (Place this third Chaos card near the other card spaces in the region.)
    The Under Empire - You treat all regions with Skaven tokens as adjacent regions. When a region is ruined, you may immediately move any number of your figures from that region into one adjacent region.
    Clan Rats - When you summon a Clan Rat into a region where you do not currently have any Clan Rats, you may summon one additional Clan Rat to that region for 0 power.
    Rat Ogres - Opponents cannot assign hits to Clan Rats until they first assign enough hits to kill all Rat Ogres in the region.
    Vermin Lord - You may summon a Vermin Lord from the board (rather than from your stockpile) for 1 power.
    *The Horned Rat has only one set of upgrades.

    HOW TO MAKE A BATTLE ROLL:
    Delmain wrote: »
    Hey guys, helpful IC tidbit here.
    Roll Xd6.hitsopen(4,6). It'll reroll 6s and then count all the dice 4 and above and give you a convenient number of hits.

    Alternatively, you can make battle rolls via orokos (thanks, Infidel!)
    Delmain wrote: »
    Use Xd6o6h4.

    o is for Open, it rolls them over and over until you get a not-6. e6 just rerolls 6s once, even if another 6 comes up.

    Battle dice probabilities:
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    I made a table for expected results up to 6 battle dice. Cells without values have probabilities below 0.1%. There is some rounding, so the values won't be exact, but they'll be close enough for most purposes.

    ChaosInTheOldWorld_HitProbabilities.gif

    We'll be using both google-docs and admanb's handtracker for this game; you'll need to make an account for the handtracker and PM me an email address.

    Once the game begins, you'll use the "Draw to hand" command on handtracker to draw cards. To play cards or discard them, click the "Play" button on the card in your hand, then link the action in the thread with the name of the card.

  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    Darian's personal Unofficial FAQ for the Horned Rat (Now with some official rulings):
    1. Set up - how many Old World Cards should be used for a 3 player game including the Horned Rat? 4p? 5p?
      [FAQ - 7 cards for 4 or 5 players, 8 for 3, regardless of the Horned Rat's presence.]
    2. Dial advancement counters for Tzeentch, and Slaanesh -- are these once per region per phase, or can Tzeentch and Slaanesh spread out their corruption placement across phases? Can Tzeentch or Slaanesh earn more than one DAC from a single region during a round (e.g. from Havoc in battle then from corruption placement)?
      [FAQ states that Tzeentch can earn a DAC during the summoning phase.
      My ruling: One DAC may be earned in a region per phase per player. I'm going to interpret this as meaning that the condition must be met entirely within a phase. This was partially clarified by the FAQ but still leaves a bit of interpretation needed.]
    3. Horned Rat's dial -- for Summon X, does the summoned figure need to be adjacent to your current figures?
      [My ruling - Yes, it must be adjacent since it does not say "in any region".]
    4. Rampage -- Essentially, does this act like the battle phase in all ways, or is it simply a battle?
      [FAQ - This is just a battle, not acting like the battle phase. Things that specify "battle phase" do not trigger from a [COLOR="Red"]Rampage[/COLOR] battle, but things like Vengeance (which only mentions battle dice) do.
      Reference summary:
      Trigger: Vengeance, Bloodbath, Skulltaker, Bloodletters, Great Unclean One, Pleasure Shield, Strength in Numbers, Vermin Outbreak
      Do not trigger: Choking Stench, Plaguebearers, Warpstorm, Havoc, Transmorgrify, Acolytes, Shroud of Secrets, Greenskins Invade, Electors Sue for Peace]
    5. Skulltaker followed by Rampage - can the killed units be summoned away from the region?
      [FAQ - No; the figures cannot be removed before the card is discarded in the end phase.]
    6. Terror - can you choose to move only some cultists, leaving behind the cultists from another god?
      [My ruling - Yes, you make the choice to move or not separately for each god. And all the ones you move must go to the same region.]
    7. Bloodletter upgrade - Is it limited to once per region, or does every figure killed grant VP?
      [FAQ - Each figure killed is worth 2 VP.]
    8. Bloodthirster upgrade - Does this summoning get around the adjacency requirement? Do Warpstones count as corruption when determining whether a region is a valid target?
      [FAQ - No. It changes the cost if the destination region matches the requirement, but it is missing the "any region" key phrase that usually indicates teleportation effects.
      My ruling - No. Warpstones are considered as corruption only when checking for Ruination, not at other times.]
    9. Does corruption placed by Filth or Blue Scribes grant a DAC? (For Filth, of course, it would take 2 of them in the same region)
      [FAQ - Yes; move, place, same thing. As an errata, they changed Filth to be two separate events-remove, then place.]
    10. Do Quicken Decay and Festival of Sinew trigger on figures that are moved by other effects? What if their own figures are moved out by an opponent (e.g., by Terror)?
      [FAQ - Bolt of Change using a new key word "replace" which does not trigger Quicken or Festival.
      My ruling - Yes; move, summon, place, same thing. And it looks for the source of the movement, not the owner of the figure.]
    11. Can Convocation pull figures from more than one region?
      [FAQ - They must come from the same region.]
    12. How many corruption tokens will each warrior or greater daemon place if two Havoc cards are in the same region?
      [My ruling - Havoc is a replacement effect--instead of rolling battle dice, the warriors place one corruption. I can see this one argued either way:
      A. when the second Havoc resolves, they are no longer rolling battle dice, so it has no effect.
      B. Havoc stops them from rolling battle dice then has them place a corruption; they would place one corruption for each Havoc card in the region.
      I will go with interpretation A, so they will only place one corruption each.]
    13. Warp Portal with an upgraded Horror -- is the newly placed Horror a valid target for the Portal's teleportation?
      [FAQ - No, the new horror is not placed until the card has been resolved.]
    14. Acolytes upgrade -- after you cancel a hit, can the opponent still kill your acolyte by applying their next hit to it? Can another opponent kill the acolyte with their hits?
      [FAQ - This upgrade triggers after all powers assign their hits for the region, but before killed figures are removed.]
    15. Lord of Change upgrade -- if it is moved by Warp Portal, can it place a Warpstone? What if it is moved by Lambs to the Slaughter?
      [FAQ - Only triggers if Tzeentch does the summoning. Warp Portal, yes, Lambs to the Slaughter, no.]
    16. Shroud of Secrets -- if a player does not have enough hits left to kill an opponent's figure, can they apply the remaining hits to Slaanesh's? (e.g., if a Rat Ogre is present with some Seductresses and no Peasants, and Khorne only rolls one hit, can he target the Seductress or must he waste the hit?)
      [My ruling - No; the Slaanesh figures are not legal targets while anything else is alive.]
    17. Daemonette upgrade -- if the Daemonette dies or is summoned away from the region, does the cultist remain under Slaanesh's control?
      [My ruling - Since they didn't specify, as they did for the KoS in the base set, I'm going to guess they intended the control to persist, regardless, so I'll rule yes. This also implies that Slaanesh can summon the cultist away without losing control, just as with Soporific Musk in the base game.]
    18. Can Slaanesh take advantage of the Leper upgrade if his Daemonette upgrade gives him control of one?
      [My ruling - Yes. You in the Leper upgrade refers to the controller of the Leper, not just to Nurgle.]
    19. What happens when Slaanesh takes control of a follower of the Horned Rat?
      [My ruling - A Slaanesh-controlled rat places no corruption, counts as participation for ruination, and counts as its PP cost in corruption when scoring 1st and 2nd ruination.]
    20. Grey Seer with the Clan Rat upgrade - How many rats are summoned?
      [FAQ - The upgrade gives one additional rat when you summon to a region with no rats present, so the Grey Seer will summon 3 rats instead of 2.]
    21. Strength in Numbers and Verminous Horde -- what is the trigger condition for these? Are they the same, or is there a difference between them?
      [FAQ - The same; the Horned Rat must have more figures than at least one opponent who is present in the region.
      My ruling - Following this to its logical conclusion, the cards will give no effect if only the horned rat is in the region. That seems odd to me, so as a house rule it will also trigger if only the rat has figures present.]
    22. The Under Empire -- are the figures moved before or after the ruination bonus VP are awarded for being present in the region? (Essentially, if HR moves all his figures out, does he still get the ruination bonus? I know he won't be eligible for 1st/2nd place if he uses this.)
      Also, are regions with a Skaven token considered adjacent to all other regions, or just to other regions containing Skaven tokens?
      [FAQ - Timing of this happens after the contributing bonus for presence, so that the same rat can take part in more than one ruination.
      My ruling - Regions containing Skaven are adjacent to each other, not to all regions.]
    23. The Light of Day/High Elf Protection -- can players choose a ruined region, to avoid placing the token? If so, can more than one player choose the same ruined region? Essentially, I'm wondering whether you meant "In order of Threat level (highest first), each player places one Event token in a different region."
      [FAQ - Ruined regions cannot be chosen for Old World card effects. Only if there is not valid region can the placement be avoided.]
    24. How do effects which grant additional dice or corruption interact with effects which limit or reduce? For example, if Choking Stench and another Nurgle card would reduce a bloodletter's dice to zero, will Vengeance still grant Khorne a battle die? If there is a single upgraded Leper in a region with Call to Arms! in play, does it place it's bonus corruption?
      [FAQ - Old World effects are persistent and apply first; then, disabling effects are applied before enabling effects.
      My ruling - "Additional" effects apply only if you would still have regular dice/corruption after all reductions. You can never have only the additional ones; in the examples above, Khorne would not roll any dice and Nurgle would not place any corruption.]
    25. Does Vermin Outbreak apply a cost to free summons from upgraded figures? Does it change the cost of figures summoned or moved by spells?
      [My ruling - Free summons are affected; a cost of 0 is still a cost. Upgraded horrors would cost 1 PP in addition to the cost of the spell; the Bloodthirster could be summoned once at a cost of 1 PP.
      Chaos card effects are noted as being immune to Vermin Outbreak, so summons from Convocation or Grey Seer would not be affected.]

  • susansusan Registered User regular
    In! Still need my Tzeentch/Slaanesh wins, so:

    T>S>K>HR>N

    2010 PAX DM Challenge Grand Champion
    2011 PAX Warmachine/Hordes Champion
  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Darian wrote: »
    Suggestion to you: Have the players make an active decision on what to do about the bloodletter upgrade if they go with the Morrslieb set. It just feels as though that upgrade is overpowering the games a bit.

    Suggestion for weakening it:
    A. Only give one VP per figure killed
    B. Limit it to triggering once per region per phase

    Let me know your answer.
    A or B or other (standard rule).

    doldari on
  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    If you wanna play and if you have any preference to:

    1. Select god order.

    If anyone has a different handtracker login name than on here, please let me know.

    If you don't select god order, will be considered Random Select

    Explain in Random Select:
    Roll dice.
    If roll God Order(K,N,T,S,HR) 5d100 = [33,22,44,99,55] (if some values are same, reroll)
    God Order : S > HR > T > K > N

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    yay!

    No god preference.

    Bloodletter nerf perference:

    1.Replace with base upgrade
    2. 1 point per kill
    3. Once per region

  • susansusan Registered User regular
    Vote for Khorne Upgrade: No Nerf, let it stand, see how it rolls under Expert Deck.

    2010 PAX DM Challenge Grand Champion
    2011 PAX Warmachine/Hordes Champion
  • peskypesky Registered User regular
    Im in!!

    Doldari is a mad hoster!

    No god preference. No preference on nerf.

  • BlackRaiderBlackRaider Registered User regular
    I'm in!

    No god preference. No nerf.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    If the bloodletter upgrade isn't getting a nerf, I think I'll just let a reserve take my spot and go back to the waiting list. I feel that upgrade really does ruin the game.

    The alternative is I could take Khorne and simply not use the upgrade.

    MrBody on
  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    I'll take the 5th spot and agree that the nerf is warranted, and I'll agree with MrBody's nerf preferences-though if the Khorne player wants to pick one I'm fine with that too.

    expert deck,

    HR>T>S>N>K

    PSN SeGaTai
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    No one's picked Khorne as 1st choice yet. Are people okay with me taking him? That'd be one way to keep the upgrade out but not forcibly keep anyone from it.

    I'm equally fine with waiting for the next bus.

  • susansusan Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    No one's picked Khorne as 1st choice yet. Are people okay with me taking him? That'd be one way to keep the upgrade out but not forcibly keep anyone from it.

    I'm equally fine with waiting for the next bus.

    *shrug* That seems a perfectly fair compromise and I am cool with this. So we got MrBody as Khorne, SeGaTai as the Rat, me as Tzeentchy boy, and Pesky and BlackRaider tossing a coin for Nurgle/Slaanesh then?

    2010 PAX DM Challenge Grand Champion
    2011 PAX Warmachine/Hordes Champion
  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    susan wrote: »
    MrBody wrote: »
    No one's picked Khorne as 1st choice yet. Are people okay with me taking him? That'd be one way to keep the upgrade out but not forcibly keep anyone from it.

    I'm equally fine with waiting for the next bus.

    *shrug* That seems a perfectly fair compromise and I am cool with this. So we got MrBody as Khorne, SeGaTai as the Rat, me as Tzeentchy boy, and Pesky and BlackRaider tossing a coin for Nurgle/Slaanesh then?

    Let me know whether or not to agree this opinion.
    If agree, @Mrbody select Bloodletter nerf (A or B or other).

    doldari on
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    I think it would neat to try replacing it with the base game bloodletter upgrade (first strike, it's worthless in the base game but I can see it being conditional here), but if other players wanted to keep it pure we can keep it as is and I will simply choose not to pick the upgrade.

    MrBody on
  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    susan, MrBody, pesky, BlackRaider, SeGaTai (The participants of this game)

    Let me know whether or not to agree susan's opinion.
    If agree, @Mrbody select Bloodletter nerf (A or B or other).

    doldari on
  • BlackRaiderBlackRaider Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    I'm ok.

    BlackRaider on
  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    Ready to scurry about the underempire

    PSN SeGaTai
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    (if agree), then "other": replace Morsslieb bloodletter upgrade with base bloodletter upgrade
    (if not agree): leave upgrade as is

  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    I think pesky don't care about it, so I accept susan's opinion.

    Roll God order(N, S)
    S > N
    Roll Player order(p, B)
    BlackRaider > pesky

    MrBody as Khorne (red)
    pesky as Nurgle (limegreen)
    susan as Tzeentch (dodgerblue)
    BlackRaider as Slaanesh (mediumorchid)
    SeGaTai The Horned Rat (gray)

    Bloodletter upgrade change base Bloodletter upgrade

    Board coming shortly.

    doldari on
  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    Round 1-1. Old World Phases

    Draw 3 chaos cards each.

    Closing the Portal
    Place one Warpstone token in every region with six or more total corruption tokens (not counting Warpstone already in that region). - Players cannot draw more than one card during the draw phase.

    No Warpstone token.

    game77state02.png

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Awwww, why couldn't that come up right after Tzeentch went to zero cards.

    Do I wait for Tzeentch's discard choice? Or is there no point to discarding with that OWC in effect?

    Guess there isn't.

    Cultist to Estalia 6/7 PP

    MrBody on
  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Round 1-2. Draw Phases

    Tzeentch may choose to discard one card before drawing.

    Draw 1, 4 in hand, 20 left in deck
    Draw 1, 4 in hand, 20 left in deck
    Draw 1, 3 or 4 in hand, 20 left in deck
    Draw 1, 4 in hand, 20 left in deck
    Draw 1, 4 in hand, 20 left in deck

    Things that need to happen:
    1. @susan has decided whether or not to discard chaos card.
    2. Start Summon Phase.

    doldari on
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Oops.

    Going to bed then internet-less work in the morning. My move will be the same just so others can take their turns.

  • peskypesky Registered User regular
    No benefit to discard with that OWC around. Hence leper to Kislev.

    5/6PP

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Well, it could mean one less or one more card come start of next round.

    I just don't mind him seeing my first opening move before he makes his decision.

  • susansusan Registered User regular
    I shall... not discard. Yes. ...Yes...

    Cultist to Norsca, 5/6.

    2010 PAX DM Challenge Grand Champion
    2011 PAX Warmachine/Hordes Champion
  • BlackRaiderBlackRaider Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Seductresse to The Badlands
    5/6PP

    BlackRaider on
  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    Cultist to Bretonnia
    5/6 PP

    PSN SeGaTai
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Cultist to Estalia 5/7 PP

  • peskypesky Registered User regular
    Leper to the Empire.

    4/6PP

  • susansusan Registered User regular
    Cultist to Norsca, 4/6.

    By the way, is it fairly common in the Expert Deck to have multiple OWCs active at any given point, 'cause it'd be nice to think that this card isn't going to be sticking around long.

    2010 PAX DM Challenge Grand Champion
    2011 PAX Warmachine/Hordes Champion
  • BlackRaiderBlackRaider Registered User regular
    Play Festival of Sinew to Estalia.
    5/6 PP

  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Round 1-3. Summon Phases

    game77state03.png

    - Old World Card Effects

    - Upgrade Effects

    - Chaos Card Effects
    Estalia : Festival of Sinew (When an opponent summons a figure to this region, gain one power point.)

    @SeGaTai active.

    doldari on
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    susan wrote: »
    Cultist to Norsca, 4/6.

    By the way, is it fairly common in the Expert Deck to have multiple OWCs active at any given point, 'cause it'd be nice to think that this card isn't going to be sticking around long.

    I'm pretty sure all the expert cards go onto the track.

  • CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    susan wrote: »
    Cultist to Norsca, 4/6.

    By the way, is it fairly common in the Expert Deck to have multiple OWCs active at any given point, 'cause it'd be nice to think that this card isn't going to be sticking around long.

    I'm pretty sure all the expert cards go onto the track.

    You are correct, all of them are added to the track so it will only last the two turns, I believe.

  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    cultist to bretonnia

    4/6 pp

    PSN SeGaTai
  • doldaridoldari Registered User regular
    Play Skulltaker to Estalia.
    4/7 PP


    I received message.

  • peskypesky Registered User regular
    Leper to Kislev

    3/6PP

  • susansusan Registered User regular
    Cultist to Troll Country, 3/6.

    2010 PAX DM Challenge Grand Champion
    2011 PAX Warmachine/Hordes Champion
Sign In or Register to comment.