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For the record, I really like the tablet controller and don't mean to sound so negative about it. I'm just really afraid it turns into the next Wiimote: Only used well by Nintendo (minding with the Wiimote I use "well" very loosely) and everyone else just uses it absolutely terribly. If it can do some really great original things and people use that you can sign me up now.
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I'm trying to imagine if it can produce a console quality Etrian Odyssey.
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edited June 2012
I'm honestly not too worried about the tablet controller, aside from the fact that I still think it looks uncomfortable to hold.
I mean, they've done all the footwork with figuring out how to use two screens like that for the past eight years with the DS.
We've seen Nintendo bandy about some weirder hypothetical uses for it like putting it on the floor to golf, and that diagram about dragging stuff from one screen to the other with the wiimote and such, but I don't expect anybody to do anything crazy revolutionary with the tablet controller. But even third parties have gotten into a "groove" where they seem somewhat comfortable using the second screen on the DS, or not, as the situation demands.
Then, what if they put in all those minigames they had in Chinatown Wars?
They were distracting as hell and annoying in Chinatown Wars, but putting them on a separate screen and not requiring me to get out and put back a stylus every two seconds or hold the stylus in my hands, I think it'd be pretty enjoyable
The Gamepad is just an extension of the Wii U system and as such won't really be a problem with core games. Nintendo is obviously poised to use it the best right out of the gate, as they do with all their "evolutions" but I don't think it will be as much of a limiter as the Wii Remotes are.
In fact, if you look at the bigger scale of what Nintendo is trying to, and most likely will succeed in oing, they are essentially building a HUD for the entire console. Much like the Steam Overlay and why a lot of people love Steam - with a built in, live community. That's very clever. They called the controller a "Social Window" - Nintendo said "We want to include ALL of this, but how?" - and this is the answer. I've said for a while the Nintendo Network was the one to watch and I am glad I was right. Software is the key.
I'm still holding out hope for an Ocean's 11-style game, where one player is doing the actiony bits on the big screen, and the other player is monitoring camera feeds, hacking security systems, scanning floorplans, etc. with the tablet.
You can build this, Nintendo. You have the technology.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
edited June 2012
What I'm hoping for is that games don't have to use the tablet if they don't want to. EG you just play Call of Duty (or whatever) on the Wii U using your pro controller, but if you want to use it you can but you're not forced to. If a game genuinely needs it, you should obviously have to use it but if it doesn't, I hope stuff doesn't just get tacked on to require you to use it. Because from what I've seen of the tablet I am not looking forward to holding that for any length of time at all, while fiddling around with the "pro" controller by putting my thumbs in the rough positions on the photo - I could definitely live with that.
Edit: Simiarly, I hope games don't force you to use the pro-controller either. Basically, no gouging people on the peripheral market a second time.
I always enjoy hitting the irc channel during the keynotes, but there are always two factors that I've been wanting to try and fix, and I'm hoping you guys can clue me in.
Basically, I want to have the irc chat window open on the same page as the livestreamed keynotes. Before, I would just tab back and forth between the two by using the irc webpage. I'm not familiar with any third party programs or such, so could I get a quick and easy setup on how to:
1. Have an irc client/window/site displayed on the same page as the streamed keynote?
2. Make it so both windows stay open while I'm typing, clicking, whatever?
I always enjoy hitting the irc channel during the keynotes, but there are always two factors that I've been wanting to try and fix, and I'm hoping you guys can clue me in.
Basically, I want to have the irc chat window open on the same page as the livestreamed keynotes. Before, I would just tab back and forth between the two by using the irc webpage. I'm not familiar with any third party programs or such, so could I get a quick and easy setup on how to:
1. Have an irc client/window/site displayed on the same page as the streamed keynote?
2. Make it so both windows stay open while I'm typing, clicking, whatever?
I just keep it in separate windows and put them side by side.
I always enjoy hitting the irc channel during the keynotes, but there are always two factors that I've been wanting to try and fix, and I'm hoping you guys can clue me in.
Basically, I want to have the irc chat window open on the same page as the livestreamed keynotes. Before, I would just tab back and forth between the two by using the irc webpage. I'm not familiar with any third party programs or such, so could I get a quick and easy setup on how to:
1. Have an irc client/window/site displayed on the same page as the streamed keynote?
2. Make it so both windows stay open while I'm typing, clicking, whatever?
I just keep it in separate windows and put them side by side.
That was my first idea, but I never could figure out how to "lock" the windows so they don't disappear when I click outside of one.
Make both windows small to fit them on one screen.
Yeah, whatever the non-nintendo feed I used last year was (gametrailers?), it had a button to pop it out to a separate window with a lesser border, which let me resize the window arbitrarily. But then again, I used 2 monitors anyway
For the record, I really like the tablet controller and don't mean to sound so negative about it. I'm just really afraid it turns into the next Wiimote: Only used well by Nintendo (minding with the Wiimote I use "well" very loosely) and everyone else just uses it absolutely terribly. If it can do some really great original things and people use that you can sign me up now.
the situation here is a bit different. Multi screen gaming has been around for a long time. Even when used poorly it means less clutter on the screen. So if things like a HUD are on the tablet or you can manage inventory and what not without pausing that's fine by me.
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Is this thread including the EA and Ubisoft events? If so, predictions/hopes/hates:
For EA, I'm expecting some word from Bioware. I would joygasm over a Jade Empire 2 announcement. I am expecting instead to hear a Dragon Age 3 announcement. I would be pissed as fuck from a Mass Effect MMO or Dragon Age MMO announcement.
From Ubisoft, the only things I really care about are if that Rayman WiiU game is actually a thing, and I would again joygasm over Beyond Good and Evil 2.
And I for one rather like the whole tablet thing with the WiiU. My wife and I have squabbled more than once about who gets to use the gaming tv, so both of us being able to play on different systems at once is a good thing.
If the tablet will also support Netflix and such, even better.
Given the pushback from DA2, I'd be kinda surprised if DA3 is going to be next year. ME3 DLC is more likely.
Ubi will be a trainwreck like always. Probably Far Cry 3 again, AC3, that rainbow 6 game
Do you mean that EA will talk about ME3 DLC at their keynote? Wouldn't that be a bit awkward, considering the whole ending debacle? Do you think that they'll not mention it at all, or perhaps use it as a marketing ploy?
I admit that an announcement of "Free ME3 expanded ending DLC available RIGHT THE FUCK NOW" during the EA keynote would be epic, though.
I guess I just want a reason to be excited for Bioware again. The ME3 ending was a disappointment for me, and I hated the KOTOR MMO.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
I am excited about DA3 and equally as worried about it, but I am still hoping for a return to what made Dragon Age great and the numerous mistakes of the second game to be rectified. I don't expect it to be announced, but it would still be awesome because they must have been poking away at it for a while now at least. Possibly next year?
I no longer give a shit about ME3 so don't care about any DLC for it.
I would love EA to come out with some new IPs or something else on the other hand. We can probably expect to see Dead Space 3 for the first time and maybe some of the other zany spinoffs (a space combat fighter game is rumored about it). Maybe we'll even hear of a new IP from Bioware?
I am excited about DA3 and equally as worried about it, but I am still hoping for a return to what made Dragon Age great and the numerous mistakes of the second game to be rectified. I don't expect it to be announced, but it would still be awesome because they must have been poking away at it for a while now at least. Possibly next year?
I no longer give a shit about ME3 so don't care about any DLC for it.
I would love EA to come out with some new IPs or something else on the other hand. We can probably expect to see Dead Space 3 for the first time and maybe some of the other zany spinoffs (a space combat fighter game is rumored about it). Maybe we'll even hear of a new IP from Bioware?
A sequel to Syndicate? Hahahaha, I kid, I kid.
And even if there was a trailer for DA3, it'd likely focus on the Templar/Mage war, which I don't give a shit about.
Now, if the trailer ended with the words "We're going to the Black City" or "is that...an Old God?" I'd be on board day one.
And I am keen on Dead Space 3, but I'm hoping we'll actually get some surprising news.
I'm still holding out hope for an Ocean's 11-style game, where one player is doing the actiony bits on the big screen, and the other player is monitoring camera feeds, hacking security systems, scanning floorplans, etc. with the tablet.
You can build this, Nintendo. You have the technology.
Maybe Nintendo can buy the FASA properties from Microsoft.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
I'm still holding out hope for an Ocean's 11-style game, where one player is doing the actiony bits on the big screen, and the other player is monitoring camera feeds, hacking security systems, scanning floorplans, etc. with the tablet.
You can build this, Nintendo. You have the technology.
Maybe Nintendo can buy the FASA properties from Microsoft.
Fredericksburg Area Soccer Association?
(I kid. Shadowrun version of this idea would make me need likes 3 new pairs of pants.)
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
Isn't the Shadowrun ip owned by the guys doing the kickstarter? Thank god for that, another Inspid FPS taking an IP and murdering it left, right and center isn't something I am keen on. Shadowrun has already had that done to it *shudders*
I always enjoy hitting the irc channel during the keynotes, but there are always two factors that I've been wanting to try and fix, and I'm hoping you guys can clue me in.
Basically, I want to have the irc chat window open on the same page as the livestreamed keynotes. Before, I would just tab back and forth between the two by using the irc webpage. I'm not familiar with any third party programs or such, so could I get a quick and easy setup on how to:
1. Have an irc client/window/site displayed on the same page as the streamed keynote?
2. Make it so both windows stay open while I'm typing, clicking, whatever?
I just keep it in separate windows and put them side by side.
That was my first idea, but I never could figure out how to "lock" the windows so they don't disappear when I click outside of one.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't what you're asking for almost the whole point of moving to Windows instead of DOS back when dinosaurs roamed the earth? Can't you just not maximize your windows?
Isn't the Shadowrun ip owned by the guys doing the kickstarter? Thank god for that, another Inspid FPS taking an IP and murdering it left, right and center isn't something I am keen on. Shadowrun has already had that done to it *shudders*
I'm pretty sure Microsoft still owns it, they're just licensing all the old FASA properties to the new studio.
What I'm hoping for is that games don't have to use the tablet if they don't want to. EG you just play Call of Duty (or whatever) on the Wii U using your pro controller, but if you want to use it you can but you're not forced to. If a game genuinely needs it, you should obviously have to use it but if it doesn't, I hope stuff doesn't just get tacked on to require you to use it.
This. From an accessibility POV, the tablet is worrying.
Isn't the Shadowrun ip owned by the guys doing the kickstarter? Thank god for that, another Inspid FPS taking an IP and murdering it left, right and center isn't something I am keen on. Shadowrun has already had that done to it *shudders*
I'm pretty sure Microsoft still owns it, they're just licensing all the old FASA properties to the new studio.
This. And according to Jordan Weismans AMA, the chances of Microsoft giving up those rights are less than 0.
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I am excited about DA3 and equally as worried about it, but I am still hoping for a return to what made Dragon Age great and the numerous mistakes of the second game to be rectified. I don't expect it to be announced, but it would still be awesome because they must have been poking away at it for a while now at least. Possibly next year?
I no longer give a shit about ME3 so don't care about any DLC for it.
I would love EA to come out with some new IPs or something else on the other hand. We can probably expect to see Dead Space 3 for the first time and maybe some of the other zany spinoffs (a space combat fighter game is rumored about it). Maybe we'll even hear of a new IP from Bioware?
A sequel to Syndicate? Hahahaha, I kid, I kid.
And even if there was a trailer for DA3, it'd likely focus on the Templar/Mage war, which I don't give a shit about.
Now, if the trailer ended with the words "We're going to the Black City" or "is that...an Old God?" I'd be on board day one.
And I am keen on Dead Space 3, but I'm hoping we'll actually get some surprising news.
I'll put unspecified moneys down that, for all the pressure on them to deliver with DA3, the Dragon Age team is glad they're not the Mass Effect team right now. I'd like to see something substantial about either series from EA, but it feels like wishful thinking at best. Like Ad astra says, I get the impression Bioware's going to be lower key than usual.
Also, as one of the fifteen people that paid money for Syndicate (20bux on Amazon, still 60 on Origin for some reason) I would honestly enjoy another, similar effort from Starbreeze. I know, not going to happen considering how badly it tanked. Just a shame, it had some solid gunplay behind it, that seems to be Starbreeze's thing.
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I mean, they've done all the footwork with figuring out how to use two screens like that for the past eight years with the DS.
We've seen Nintendo bandy about some weirder hypothetical uses for it like putting it on the floor to golf, and that diagram about dragging stuff from one screen to the other with the wiimote and such, but I don't expect anybody to do anything crazy revolutionary with the tablet controller. But even third parties have gotten into a "groove" where they seem somewhat comfortable using the second screen on the DS, or not, as the situation demands.
Like I said before, big home console DS.
Then, what if they put in all those minigames they had in Chinatown Wars?
They were distracting as hell and annoying in Chinatown Wars, but putting them on a separate screen and not requiring me to get out and put back a stylus every two seconds or hold the stylus in my hands, I think it'd be pretty enjoyable
In fact, if you look at the bigger scale of what Nintendo is trying to, and most likely will succeed in oing, they are essentially building a HUD for the entire console. Much like the Steam Overlay and why a lot of people love Steam - with a built in, live community. That's very clever. They called the controller a "Social Window" - Nintendo said "We want to include ALL of this, but how?" - and this is the answer. I've said for a while the Nintendo Network was the one to watch and I am glad I was right. Software is the key.
You can build this, Nintendo. You have the technology.
Edit: Simiarly, I hope games don't force you to use the pro-controller either. Basically, no gouging people on the peripheral market a second time.
Basically, I want to have the irc chat window open on the same page as the livestreamed keynotes. Before, I would just tab back and forth between the two by using the irc webpage. I'm not familiar with any third party programs or such, so could I get a quick and easy setup on how to:
1. Have an irc client/window/site displayed on the same page as the streamed keynote?
2. Make it so both windows stay open while I'm typing, clicking, whatever?
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I think it only has the front facing camera.
I just keep it in separate windows and put them side by side.
That was my first idea, but I never could figure out how to "lock" the windows so they don't disappear when I click outside of one.
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They'd better damn well ensure it's entirely cross compatible if that's the case.
Classic controller doesn't have clickable sticks, and the WiiU/Pro might have analog triggers.
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the situation here is a bit different. Multi screen gaming has been around for a long time. Even when used poorly it means less clutter on the screen. So if things like a HUD are on the tablet or you can manage inventory and what not without pausing that's fine by me.
For EA, I'm expecting some word from Bioware. I would joygasm over a Jade Empire 2 announcement. I am expecting instead to hear a Dragon Age 3 announcement. I would be pissed as fuck from a Mass Effect MMO or Dragon Age MMO announcement.
From Ubisoft, the only things I really care about are if that Rayman WiiU game is actually a thing, and I would again joygasm over Beyond Good and Evil 2.
Ubi will be a trainwreck like always. Probably Far Cry 3 again, AC3, that rainbow 6 game
If the tablet will also support Netflix and such, even better.
Do you mean that EA will talk about ME3 DLC at their keynote? Wouldn't that be a bit awkward, considering the whole ending debacle? Do you think that they'll not mention it at all, or perhaps use it as a marketing ploy?
I admit that an announcement of "Free ME3 expanded ending DLC available RIGHT THE FUCK NOW" during the EA keynote would be epic, though.
I guess I just want a reason to be excited for Bioware again. The ME3 ending was a disappointment for me, and I hated the KOTOR MMO.
I no longer give a shit about ME3 so don't care about any DLC for it.
I would love EA to come out with some new IPs or something else on the other hand. We can probably expect to see Dead Space 3 for the first time and maybe some of the other zany spinoffs (a space combat fighter game is rumored about it). Maybe we'll even hear of a new IP from Bioware?
A sequel to Syndicate? Hahahaha, I kid, I kid.
ba-dum pisshhh
And even if there was a trailer for DA3, it'd likely focus on the Templar/Mage war, which I don't give a shit about.
Now, if the trailer ended with the words "We're going to the Black City" or "is that...an Old God?" I'd be on board day one.
And I am keen on Dead Space 3, but I'm hoping we'll actually get some surprising news.
Balls, you're right. That clicky sticks will be the killer is even more galling as I loathe clicky sticks.
Yeah, I always feel you lose some subtly in control when you have to press down on the stick then keep it mashed when you move
But then I think any game where crouch isn't a toggle is irritating
Maybe Nintendo can buy the FASA properties from Microsoft.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
Fredericksburg Area Soccer Association?
(I kid. Shadowrun version of this idea would make me need likes 3 new pairs of pants.)
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't what you're asking for almost the whole point of moving to Windows instead of DOS back when dinosaurs roamed the earth? Can't you just not maximize your windows?
I'm pretty sure Microsoft still owns it, they're just licensing all the old FASA properties to the new studio.
This. From an accessibility POV, the tablet is worrying.
This. And according to Jordan Weismans AMA, the chances of Microsoft giving up those rights are less than 0.
I'll put unspecified moneys down that, for all the pressure on them to deliver with DA3, the Dragon Age team is glad they're not the Mass Effect team right now. I'd like to see something substantial about either series from EA, but it feels like wishful thinking at best. Like Ad astra says, I get the impression Bioware's going to be lower key than usual.
Also, as one of the fifteen people that paid money for Syndicate (20bux on Amazon, still 60 on Origin for some reason) I would honestly enjoy another, similar effort from Starbreeze. I know, not going to happen considering how badly it tanked. Just a shame, it had some solid gunplay behind it, that seems to be Starbreeze's thing.
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