[Pokemon Conquest] Gotta recruit and catch em all on Nintendo DS.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Oh, snap... Infernape can get the Conqueror ability? It's probably a good thing that doesn't fire for every opponent you defeat in a turn...

    EDIT: You can buy Harmony Drums*? Well that saves a lot of time.

    *At certain L3 shops... for 4K apiece**. Still, I have 54,000+ and nothing else worth buying.

    **Well, that was the price for the 80-charisma Warrior I sent shopping. Nobunaga (92) gets them for 3750, so probably 5K normally.

    Edit 2: Lucky Coin + Meowth + Hammer = 24429 gold in one trip!

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Yeah, money is really not a concern if you know what you are doing. Lucky coins carry over when you start new missions, so just stock up when you get a chance.

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    And you don't even really need cash unless you want to develop things.

    Every "unite Ransei" mission winds up with me tearing though 15 other nations within a year -- occasionally going one-on-five and recruiting everyone -- and then durdling around for another three or four years with my one remaining opponent pinned and helpless in some corner of the world.

    Only the stuff you buy from special merchants carries over, but that's the only crap you really need anyway (evolution items, Guardian Charms, and Lucky Coins). I still haven't found a use for Cold Medicine or Hayfever Pills, but I've put on a couple of nice Firework displays while grinding and hoping for swarms.

  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    Chen wrote: »
    I don't think so. I too am at the point now where I'm not bothered about warlords other than ones that can get a perfect link with my favourite mans. For some reason you can't recruit the story warlords sometimes, even if you hit them for a hojillion super effective damage.

    After the first campaign (in which you can't recruit about half the story warlords), you must kill a warlord with another warlord instead of a generic warrior. You also can't recruit anybody if a warlord still has at least one castle left. They'll retreat no matter what. Otherwise, if you kill a warlord with another warlord within the first 4 turns, you should always recruit him/her. Not sure about using super-effective damage after the first 4 turns, the tutorial didn't make it clear whether that'd work on warlords like it does on warriors or if you must do it within the time limit, and I haven't experimented.

    Aha, that makes sense. I thought any warrior could recruit a warlord. Does the main guy/girl and Oichi count as a warlord? I somehow recruited Shingen and Kenshin, though it's possible that they're automatically recruited after you conquer their castles.
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Is there some way to tell what a loose warrior's type specialty is before spending time kicking his ass?

    Yes. Select their mon as if you wanted to move it, then hit the "info" button that pops up. You can also do this via the start menu's "Info" option but you need to take the additional step of hitting select to access the enemy data.

    Oh, I thought he meant getting to know the warrior before you initiate a battle. Because I can't see an option to view his/her name. That would save a lot of time.

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  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Yes the main characters and oichi count. Anyone with a gold frame.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    When do I get a Moon Stone? Seriously, Jigglypuff is near useless since forever and I'm forced to bring her along for the story battles.

    Also, my Charmeleon has gone from 3 move to 2 move after it evolved to a Charizard, so it's also a bit useless. Whoever thought that was a good idea?

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Charizard does have a much, much better attack though. And flight.

    There are a few cases where evolutions are arguably worse than their previous forms though.

  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    Yeah, but my Magikarp has gone from splashtastic to beast mode. It's always fun to just let it zerg rush into a pack of enemies, then let Intimidate do its work. The AI is absolutely terrible in this game.

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  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Yeah, Charizard is slower but he is ridiculous with a Guardian Charm.

    Anything that evolves into Thunder is better off not evolving. That move suuuucks.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Yeah, Charizard is slower but he is ridiculous with a Guardian Charm.

    Anything that evolves into Thunder is better off not evolving. That move suuuucks.

    I was pretty disappointed with Hydro Pump, too.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    IDK, with the right team one guy in the back dropping thunders can be nice.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Yeah, Charizard is slower but he is ridiculous with a Guardian Charm.

    Anything that evolves into Thunder is better off not evolving. That move suuuucks.

    I was pretty disappointed with Hydro Pump, too.

    The only Hydro Pump I have is on Ina's Empoleon, and her evolved power more than makes up for it.

    IDK, with the right team one guy in the back dropping thunders can be nice.

    Sure -- if it ever hits. I've whiffed like four turns in a row with Ginchiyo's Luxray. Stupidly frustrating when you're on a 10-turn clock.

  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Yeah, Charizard is slower but he is ridiculous with a Guardian Charm.

    Anything that evolves into Thunder is better off not evolving. That move suuuucks.

    I was pretty disappointed with Hydro Pump, too.

    The only Hydro Pump I have is on Ina's Empoleon, and her evolved power more than makes up for it.

    IDK, with the right team one guy in the back dropping thunders can be nice.

    Sure -- if it ever hits. I've whiffed like four turns in a row with Ginchiyo's Luxray. Stupidly frustrating when you're on a 10-turn clock.

    Yeah the miss rate and difficulty of terrain levels at that range...

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    I've concluded that Floating Rock is the most annoying battlefield

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    I've concluded that Floating Rock is the most annoying battlefield

    Mostly, although Snowy Mountain has its moments.
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Yeah, Charizard is slower but he is ridiculous with a Guardian Charm.

    Anything that evolves into Thunder is better off not evolving. That move suuuucks.

    I was pretty disappointed with Hydro Pump, too.

    The only Hydro Pump I have is on Ina's Empoleon, and her evolved power more than makes up for it.

    IDK, with the right team one guy in the back dropping thunders can be nice.

    Sure -- if it ever hits. I've whiffed like four turns in a row with Ginchiyo's Luxray. Stupidly frustrating when you're on a 10-turn clock.

    Yeah the miss rate and difficulty of terrain levels at that range...

    Terrain levels drive me crazy, especially for moves like Thunder and Rock Slide, which clearly fall from above and thus shouldn't be impacted.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I went Vaporeon with the main character's initial Eevee

    It's not really a choice I regret, but Hydro Pump's accuracy isn't really great

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Not sure where I should take evee. Thinking umbreon.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Glaceon is probably the most useful for your very first Eevee, but it requires a lot of grinding for the initial story to get that high, and I couldn't be assed.

    I went Vaporeon with my first, and Jolteon with my second. Jolteon with Vanguard is exceptionally strong.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    By the time you can get Glaceon, you'll probably have a second Eevee anyway.

    Jolteon is a fun Eeveelution, I recommend that as a first.

  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    Apparently, I only have two battles remaining that have warlords. Since I've been told that the links go back to zero after the campaign ends, does that mean I have to evolve Machoke/Kadabra/Haunter/Boldore and Gurdurr now since getting them back to 60% will be a pain in the ass? Only problem is, how the heck am I going to beat a warlord as if to recruit him/her when he/she has a Rayquaza? That shit be wack yo.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Their Pokemon remain evolved, they'll just be evolved and have a low link regardless.

    And while they're NPC controlled they'll always have the same NPC stuff.

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Chen wrote: »
    When do I get a Moon Stone? Seriously, Jigglypuff is near useless since forever and I'm forced to bring her along for the story battles.

    Also, my Charmeleon has gone from 3 move to 2 move after it evolved to a Charizard, so it's also a bit useless. Whoever thought that was a good idea?

    Remember your main characters can link with other pokemon so if you hate Jigglypuff link with something else and use that instead.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    Chen wrote: »
    When do I get a Moon Stone? Seriously, Jigglypuff is near useless since forever and I'm forced to bring her along for the story battles.

    Also, my Charmeleon has gone from 3 move to 2 move after it evolved to a Charizard, so it's also a bit useless. Whoever thought that was a good idea?

    Remember your main characters can link with other pokemon so if you hate Jigglypuff link with something else and use that instead.

    She links decently with Bisharp, so that's an option.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Don't worry about evolving any warlords at this point. You're going to be going through the game over and over again anyway. Just beat the main plot, then enter a mission that has the warlords you want, conquer all but one kingdom, then chase the survivor all over the map, letting them take kingdoms and then immediately attacking them again. They'll get much more aggressive, especially when they're down to only one survivor.

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Shingen needs a 75% link with Rhymperior to evolve? Screw. That. He can only defeat five opponents, maximum, per month -- assuming there are even any in his pitiful two-square range. That will take forever.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Rhyperior is awful anyway.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Right, but in order to evolve Shingen you have to deal with it for an ungodly amount of time.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Could just delegate and stuff his pokemon's fat ass with food I guess.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I haven't bothered getting Rhyperior to 100% yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 100% bonus was to no longer have the recharge time after attacking.

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    I got Nobunaga up to 100% with Hedreigon and didn't see anything special. The attack was "+S", I think (although that could have been +5). But I only tested it in one battle (my last one in the mission).

    Which sadly was not Nobunaga's mission, as apparently he can only evolve in his own. Which I've already done. :P

  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Wish there was a way to release Pokémon. Trying to conquer an entire continent without catching 100 Pokémon is kind of hard.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Wish there was a way to release Pokémon. Trying to conquer an entire continent without catching 100 Pokémon is kind of hard.

    Well, the objective of those missions isn't to unite Ransei...

    Although you can probably reign it in by being extremely selective over whom you recruit.

  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Wish there was a way to release Pokémon. Trying to conquer an entire continent without catching 100 Pokémon is kind of hard.

    Well, the objective of those missions isn't to unite Ransei...

    Although you can probably reign it in by being extremely selective over whom you recruit.

    I know, I just want to be able to get perfect links for the warlords that weren't in Hideyoshi's episode.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    Okay, I retract my previous statement. Yukimura + Charizard + Last Bastion + Guardian Charm is pretty busted.

    Last Bastion Dragonite less so, since it can get stuck and be helpless. Will try Tyranitar. No wonder changing the ability to Last Bastion costs more gold.

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  • EriktheVikingGamerEriktheVikingGamer Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    As a guy who is into SRPGs and has fond memories of playing Red and Blue is there something here for me? Also, is it restricted to only one save per cartridge or does it have mutliple save slots? I ask because my little brother is interested in this game as well and I'm hoping I don't have to buy two copies to keep separate saves.

    P.S.: To clarify my first question - Is there any strategic substance to this game? Or is it very much SRPG-lite? Closer to FFT or closer to rock-paper-scissors + checkers?

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Chen wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Is there some way to tell what a loose warrior's type specialty is before spending time kicking his ass?

    Yes. Select their mon as if you wanted to move it, then hit the "info" button that pops up. You can also do this via the start menu's "Info" option but you need to take the additional step of hitting select to access the enemy data.

    Oh, I thought he meant getting to know the warrior before you initiate a battle. Because I can't see an option to view his/her name. That would save a lot of time.

    You can do that, too! Hit Y for "Lists", then use select to cycle though until you just see the "Free Warriors."
    As a guy who is into SRPGs and has fond memories of playing Red and Blue is there something here for me? Also, is it restricted to only one save per cartridge or does it have mutliple save slots? I ask because my little brother is interested in this game as well and I'm hoping I don't have to buy two copies to keep separate saves.

    P.S.: To clarify my first question - Is there any strategic substance to this game? Or is it very much SRPG-lite? Closer to FFT or closer to rock-paper-scissors + checkers?

    It's pretty much exactly what you would expect from FFTA + Pokemon, although with only one attack per mon.

    And only one save per cart.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    New WiFi event for yer Pokermans.

    Via Serebii:
    Pokémon Conquest - WiFi Event

    The fifth and final WiFi Event for Pokémon Conquest is now live for America and Europe. This WiFi event allows for the download of the Hideyoshi & Reshiram event, which unlocks the Pokémon Reshiram for you to link with, in the post-game, if you have the Warlord Hideyoshi. This event, like the others, runs until December 31st 2012, giving you plenty of time to get it.

  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    I played Pokemon Conquest (beat the main game and I think 3 side missions) and then started up Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2. I'm going through a bunch of DS games I always wanted to play but didn't, as my backlog is huuuuuuge (also finally finished Arkham Asylum and Skyrim over the weekend, haha).

    Anyway, FFTA2 is definitely scratching my FFT itch a lot better than Conquest did, which is to be expected. Still, it has nothing on the original. Conquest was great for what it was, but searching for the perfect links just got a little mind-numbing after awhile. I'm sure I'll power it up again though, but Disgaea DS is next and I hear that might consume my soul.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    If you have a DS, I recommend the first FFTA. While the mechanics in FFTA2 are more technically sound, it's more fun to just experiment and learn about the more broken classes and go to town. Tactics Orge: The Knight of Lodis is also pretty good in this regard and, if you have a PSP, Let Us Cling Together.

    Disgaea is rubbish.

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  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Thanks! I'll have to see if I can get a copy of the GBA Tactics Ogre. I don't have a PSP, but have been thinking about it since I have such a huge backlog of jrpg's.

    Sorry to derail from Conquest discussion ;)

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