Picking support first is a lot better than picking top or mid first though, Aegis!
Yea but it both leads me open to a counterpick bot lane and doesn't give our team a strong champion off the bat. I don't care about the latter in solo q, but the former hurts somewhat as I'm forced into relatively safe supports rather than ones that can be negated by enemy bot lane/team comp.
1) Get really good with Janna. Janna's a very strong support and hard to counterpick.
2) Get really good with Alistar. Ali's a very strong support, though he can be counterpicked easier than Janna.
3) Get really good with Leona. Same reasons as the above.
4) Get really good with Nunu. He's different to the others as he's more of a buff/debuffer with limited peel ability, though.
5) Before making your pick, as who wants AD carry and which support meshes best with their playstyle.
6) Profit and get tons of friend requests.
Janna's my main, yea, though I find Leona can be easily counterpicked, as can Blitz. Had a game yesterday as Blitz vs an enemy team that was Riven, Alistair, Renekton, Malphite, Leona. I literally couldn't grab a single person or they'd kill our team
And whenever I ask the AD who they want to play so I can support accordinly, no-one ever bloody answers -.-
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Has there been an official post on the forums as to why they completely broke their product after they did a patch on a weekend and then rolled back that patch?
I've heard reports that people can't use their mouse when they get into a game, I've been kicked off pretty consistantly and can't get in more than one game before everything borks up.
Is it wrong to prefer Sivir over better AD carries?
Better? Don't be silly, Sivir is really, really good if played properly.
Yeah, Sivir is very good. It's easy to go oh man, Trist/Kog'maw/Corki/Graves/Vayne have stronger late games than X, but the thing is, there are precious few games where you get to late game on even terms with the other team. No matter what AD carry you play, if you win bot lane hard enough, you will be ahead the rest of the game and end it before they can catch up.
I have been playing Sivir a few times this week, and I've won every game I've played with her. She's been really natural and fun to pick up. I find her laning very solid with spell shield, and using her W to constantly harass is great. I play an aggressive bot lane too, and constantly shoving the enemy to the tower and making them lose CS works very well on her. And her minion clearing/tower pushing is really good too.
Picking support first is a lot better than picking top or mid first though, Aegis!
Yea but it both leads me open to a counterpick bot lane and doesn't give our team a strong champion off the bat. I don't care about the latter in solo q, but the former hurts somewhat as I'm forced into relatively safe supports rather than ones that can be negated by enemy bot lane/team comp.
1) Get really good with Janna. Janna's a very strong support and hard to counterpick.
2) Get really good with Alistar. Ali's a very strong support, though he can be counterpicked easier than Janna.
3) Get really good with Leona. Same reasons as the above.
4) Get really good with Nunu. He's different to the others as he's more of a buff/debuffer with limited peel ability, though.
5) Before making your pick, as who wants AD carry and which support meshes best with their playstyle.
6) Profit and get tons of friend requests.
You can really pick Janna, Alistar, Alistar, Leona, Nunu, Lulu, Soraka or Taric and be fine bot lane, even if you first pick the support. The key is you and your AD knowing how you must change your lane play depending on the matchup. I try to have my team first pick AD if possible, but I don't care about first picking support.
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I'm so tired of running into Blitz these days. I've found myself playing Sivir again to just spell-shield his grabs, but there has to be a better way. One random errant grab early can snowball the lane pretty hard for the other ADC. My supports tend to be shy of trying to zone/bush control, though I feel like Taric or Alistar should do pretty well vs a Blitz lane with knock-up or stun responses...
If I manage to survive the early game vs a Blitz lane, then he falls off and does nothing, but I need tips with dealing with him early.
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I'm so tired of running into Blitz these days. I've found myself playing Sivir again to just spell-shield his grabs, but there has to be a better way. One random errant grab early can snowball the lane pretty hard for the other ADC. My supports tend to be shy of trying to zone/bush control, though I feel like Taric or Alistar should do pretty well vs a Blitz lane with knock-up or stun responses...
If I manage to survive the early game vs a Blitz lane, then he falls off and does nothing, but I need tips with dealing with him early.
Dealing with Blitz requires a support that can counter-initiate, or reset a fight. Alistar, Leona and Janna are pretty good at this, while Nunu can Ice Ball the opposing carry to reduce the damage they'd deal with straight autos. Of course, it won't effect AD Caster sorts (Ezreal, maybe Varus, to some degree Graves and Sivir for example) but it really does shut down right-click-only champs.
It also requires good bush control as you mentioned. You don't really want Soraka or Sona, as all they can do is heal and hope (or perhaps Silence an AD Caster sort in Soraka's case), which doesn't work well against a big burst of damage. Maybe Soraka's armour buff would help if she was quick with it, and Silencing Blitz so he doesn't get the grab->uppercut->silence combo off would be possible if you were in the right place.
I don't really mind going against blitz with any lane any more. You just have to hide behind minions, have bush control(this is really the most important), and punish him and his AD. If your support doesn't give you bush control, you'll probably lose the lane due to losing too much CS and being primed for hooks.
Even with a Soraka I can win the lane because I abuse the unlimited mana and heals. I will punish blitz or the AD any time they're close enough to be hit, even if I take some damage, because hey, I have a mana battery and heals to keep me in lane. Eventually you just push them out of lane. The only real way to lose the lane is if you or your support get caught in a hook after level 3 and feeds their AD kills. If I'm running support I usually run Alistar because he has a giant hitbox, and they're not going to want to hook you anyway since you can just knockup, disengage and heal back the damage.
As mentioned above, a good Nunu support is also really good against that lane just because with his AS steroid on your AD and AS debuff on their AD it makes for favorable trades for you as long as they don't hook somebody under their tower or something, but if you let that happen, you're in trouble from the start.
Decided to play a game with Darius for giggles. Ended up top lane with a Nassus against Mundo/Akali top.
I played horrible. Went 0-11. Mid never called an MIA and the Nassus kept getting himself way out of position. He then proceeded to urge everyone to report me for intentionally feeding.
Next game I went with Teemo and good times were had.
So I had a theory that Urgot would be the perfect counter pick to Draven in bot lane because of the axe telegraphing. I saw it last night and boy was it savage. It helped that Draven's support was a derp-crank who was silly picking into urgot/allistar. But none-the-less, I still think that is a ridiculously strong counter pick. I tried using ezreal against draven, didn't work out to well, we can harass with those axes in the minion line and I can't hit him back with q.
Bought Renekton last night with IP and gave him a few goes. He is tricky getting his harass down, but I really like him in teamfights. I can see me playing a lot more renekton in the future.
A nightmare lane for draven would be something like Urgot/leona or Urgot/soraka for that infinite harass.
Leona could probably also be switched to ali, so you have some sustain to counter his harass, since even if you are laying down the hurt on him, he can still do some back.
So I had a theory that Urgot would be the perfect counter pick to Draven in bot lane because of the axe telegraphing. I saw it last night and boy was it savage. It helped that Draven's support was a derp-crank who was silly picking into urgot/allistar. But none-the-less, I still think that is a ridiculously strong counter pick. I tried using ezreal against draven, didn't work out to well, we can harass with those axes in the minion line and I can't hit him back with q.
Bought Renekton last night with IP and gave him a few goes. He is tricky getting his harass down, but I really like him in teamfights. I can see me playing a lot more renekton in the future.
Lizard may be my new second favorite dude. He's super strong, all his abilities reset autoattack timers, and his sustain is awesome (but it pushes the lane hard). He's got tons of itemization choices, Hexdrinker, Brutalizer, Phage, Atmas, Bloodthirster, Tiamat, and he's got a wall clearing escape/disengage.
So I had a theory that Urgot would be the perfect counter pick to Draven in bot lane because of the axe telegraphing. I saw it last night and boy was it savage. It helped that Draven's support was a derp-crank who was silly picking into urgot/allistar. But none-the-less, I still think that is a ridiculously strong counter pick. I tried using ezreal against draven, didn't work out to well, we can harass with those axes in the minion line and I can't hit him back with q.
Bought Renekton last night with IP and gave him a few goes. He is tricky getting his harass down, but I really like him in teamfights. I can see me playing a lot more renekton in the future.
Lizard may be my new second favorite dude. He's super strong, all his abilities reset autoattack timers, and his sustain is awesome (but it pushes the lane hard). He's got tons of itemization choices, Hexdrinker, Brutalizer, Phage, Atmas, Bloodthirster, Tiamat, and he's got a wall clearing escape/disengage.
He's wonderful.
Yeah, despite the fact I don't play top lane all that often I win nearly all my Renekton games. He's a beast.
I bought Draven and haven't really gotten a chance to play him all that much, but I'm wondering if there's something specific that would prevent Draven from, you know, not catching axes if it's going to put him in harm's way. You know, besides compulsion.
So I had a theory that Urgot would be the perfect counter pick to Draven in bot lane because of the axe telegraphing. I saw it last night and boy was it savage. It helped that Draven's support was a derp-crank who was silly picking into urgot/allistar. But none-the-less, I still think that is a ridiculously strong counter pick. I tried using ezreal against draven, didn't work out to well, we can harass with those axes in the minion line and I can't hit him back with q.
Bought Renekton last night with IP and gave him a few goes. He is tricky getting his harass down, but I really like him in teamfights. I can see me playing a lot more renekton in the future.
Lizard may be my new second favorite dude. He's super strong, all his abilities reset autoattack timers, and his sustain is awesome (but it pushes the lane hard). He's got tons of itemization choices, Hexdrinker, Brutalizer, Phage, Atmas, Bloodthirster, Tiamat, and he's got a wall clearing escape/disengage.
He's wonderful.
Yeah I was wondering about him, he seems like he would get a good deal of benefit from a bloodthirster, but all the guides I read, no one recommends building it on him. I know he has the innate sustain from cull the meek, but I feel like the huge bump in attack damage would make him hurt that much harder, a lot like riven. So far I have been building him cd boots, randuins, brutalizer, frozen mallet, atma's/maw of malmortius depending on the enemy team comp, upgrade the brutalizer if I have gold left. Seems to work perfectly considering you are right in the thick of things. I thought about getting more attack speed in the form of a a wits end to help build rage faster, but when you pop the ult that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. That said, I wish his ult did percentage hp damage as opposed to flat damage or at least came close to Nasus' ult damage (which almost always clocks in at 240 damage per second). Still though really like him. Also his rune wars skin is fantastic, might have to buy that soon.
So I had a theory that Urgot would be the perfect counter pick to Draven in bot lane because of the axe telegraphing. I saw it last night and boy was it savage. It helped that Draven's support was a derp-crank who was silly picking into urgot/allistar. But none-the-less, I still think that is a ridiculously strong counter pick. I tried using ezreal against draven, didn't work out to well, we can harass with those axes in the minion line and I can't hit him back with q.
Bought Renekton last night with IP and gave him a few goes. He is tricky getting his harass down, but I really like him in teamfights. I can see me playing a lot more renekton in the future.
Lizard may be my new second favorite dude. He's super strong, all his abilities reset autoattack timers, and his sustain is awesome (but it pushes the lane hard). He's got tons of itemization choices, Hexdrinker, Brutalizer, Phage, Atmas, Bloodthirster, Tiamat, and he's got a wall clearing escape/disengage.
He's wonderful.
Yeah I was wondering about him, he seems like he would get a good deal of benefit from a bloodthirster, but all the guides I read, no one recommends building it on him. I know he has the innate sustain from cull the meek, but I feel like the huge bump in attack damage would make him hurt that much harder, a lot like riven. So far I have been building him cd boots, randuins, brutalizer, frozen mallet, atma's/maw of malmortius depending on the enemy team comp, upgrade the brutalizer if I have gold left. Seems to work perfectly considering you are right in the thick of things. I thought about getting more attack speed in the form of a a wits end to help build rage faster, but when you pop the ult that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. That said, I wish his ult did percentage hp damage as opposed to flat damage or at least came close to Nasus' ult damage (which almost always clocks in at 240 damage per second). Still though really like him. Also his rune wars skin is fantastic, might have to buy that soon.
Bloodthirster on Renekton is a matchup thing. If you are doing super well in your lane, grab it early, keep smashing faces. All of the faces. If you need more harass, Brutalizer. If they have high magic damage, Hexdrinker, etc. As long as it has attack damage and you eventually get some defenses on him, you can't really go wrong on him. (Note: He is NOT an Autoattacker, don't build him like one)
I love renekton so much, but I just can't seem to figure him out
Just like ezreal
Its weird
I guess Darius and Varus are just overpowered, but I dominate top with Darius and bottom with Varus, but when I switch to Renekton top I suck bad, and when I switch to Ez bot I also suck
I love renekton so much, but I just can't seem to figure him out
Just like ezreal
Its weird
I guess Darius and Varus are just overpowered, but I dominate top with Darius and bottom with Varus, but when I switch to Renekton top I suck bad, and when I switch to Ez bot I also suck
I want to be better with renekton and ezreal
I don't think I've heard anybody call Varus OP before
Speaking of Varus, what seems to be the consensus on which skills to max first? I've been maxing Q, then E, then W, but I'm wondering if W should be maxed before E or not.
Varus isn't OP, but I think he's actually a great AD carry to learn the role with. His W makes it easier to last hit, his lack of escapes means that you've got to stay aware of positioning, his E and R provide utility for your team if you're not doing fantastically, and his Q is a great poke skill.
I might just be saying this because he's the only carry apart from Graves that I do consistently well with.
Edit: For skill order I max W, then E, then Q. Q's got a good enough ratio that it still does decent damage with no extra skill points, and E improves significantly for no added mana cost. W first is just because I like the AA damage; I think most people agree that E > Q, though.
Anybody know where to look for the patch files that got loaded? I've been searching my Riot Games folder all morning, and can't figure it out for the life of me.
Super noob question, but what's the difference with going top or bot?
To go top means to occupy the top lane, usually by yourself, and to go bot is to play in the bottom lane, typically with an AD carry and a support.
The other difference is you usually go two bot in order to have more people available to protect dragon since it's an incredibly important objective.
Not to say Baron isn't, but dragon is more easily attainable with less than your full team. By level 5, you should be able to take dragon with your jungler, AD, and support.
Picking support first is a lot better than picking top or mid first though, Aegis!
Yea but it both leads me open to a counterpick bot lane and doesn't give our team a strong champion off the bat. I don't care about the latter in solo q, but the former hurts somewhat as I'm forced into relatively safe supports rather than ones that can be negated by enemy bot lane/team comp.
Alistar is good vs everyone(in that he can transition to a safe support if he gets counter picked), lets you swap with your jungle if you do get counter picked and of course prevents the other team from picking Alistar. Like Janna Alistar doesn't have any carries he is particularly bad with, just carries he isn't particularly good with. If you end up running Ashe/Alistar Alistar can still protect Ashe even if they can't turn things into kills as easily.
He is probably the hardest support to counter pick with maybe the exception of Janna[ i actually think its easier to counter pick Janna]
Nunu/Soraka/Taric are a lot more dangerous to first pick than Janna or Alistar. Taric gets countered by AD carry picks(sivir) and since his CC is single target and he has no dislocate he absolutely has to be able to find someone out of position. An aggressive support like Nunu or Alistar paired with a long range carry will ruin his day since in order to be valuable he has to close the gap between the carry and the support... or focus the support. Nunu gets countered by anyone who can ignore Nunu(and/or strong harass that forces him to not be in front of the fight). Once they can ignore Nunu he is only his buffs/debuffs and once his AD carry goes down so does the majority of his damage. Soraka gets countered by AD carry picks and support picks. She is terribly easy to deal with as a first pick unless she has a strong tanky carry like graves/urgot our front that she can mana-battery. So if the enemy team picks Soraka, all you have to do is pick Graves/Taric and they're boned as if they put an AD out in front of Soraka you're going to focus and kill them and if they put soraka closer to the front you just kill soraka, ditto graves/blitz or urgot/blitz. Since Roka can't afford to be pulled, this gives you free reign of the brush and if you do ever get their AD Soraka is too far away to help.
Is it wrong to prefer Sivir over better AD carries?
Yes, because Sivir is not a "worse" AD carry. It is however, not wrong to prefer Sivir over other AD carries. ATM i think the only thing holding down sivir's popularity is the lack of play she sees in tournaments. And because she is easy to counter pick[IMO Ashe/Ezreal/Cait
OK so I know the LW vs MBR argument is a long standing one and LW tends to win out but I was looking into Kog and wondering if MBR would win on him due to the synergy with his W (Bio-Arcane Barrage).
Thoughts? Numbercrafts?
It's never been between LW and MBR. It's between Last Whisper and Black Cleaver. MBR has a certain role and it is good for certain champions/situations.
Agree Cait beats Sivir, and good Ez beats Sivir 1v1 if played right. Not sure about Ashe though. Just need reflexes for that match up.
So I had a theory that Urgot would be the perfect counter pick to Draven in bot lane because of the axe telegraphing. I saw it last night and boy was it savage. It helped that Draven's support was a derp-crank who was silly picking into urgot/allistar. But none-the-less, I still think that is a ridiculously strong counter pick. I tried using ezreal against draven, didn't work out to well, we can harass with those axes in the minion line and I can't hit him back with q.
Bought Renekton last night with IP and gave him a few goes. He is tricky getting his harass down, but I really like him in teamfights. I can see me playing a lot more renekton in the future.
Lizard may be my new second favorite dude. He's super strong, all his abilities reset autoattack timers, and his sustain is awesome (but it pushes the lane hard). He's got tons of itemization choices, Hexdrinker, Brutalizer, Phage, Atmas, Bloodthirster, Tiamat, and he's got a wall clearing escape/disengage.
He's wonderful.
Urgot is a great counter pick against any AD. That's basically what he's there for. He's basically for team comps where you want to not fight traditional 5v5 fights, instead using his ult to catch people out after having beaten bottom lane into being behind you. The tradeoff is that if you try to play him like a typical AD carry and dont' win your lane hard, and don't use his ult to create 5v4s, you will probably get stomped because he does nowhere near the damage of a fed Graves, Trist, Kog, or any of the other typical AD carries.
And yeah, Renekton is one of the best laners in the game, and while his late game is nowhere near as good as some tops, he is so damn good at laning you can often get so far ahead that you end the game with you so far ahead of their top they're a non-factor.
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Janna's my main, yea, though I find Leona can be easily counterpicked, as can Blitz. Had a game yesterday as Blitz vs an enemy team that was Riven, Alistair, Renekton, Malphite, Leona. I literally couldn't grab a single person or they'd kill our team
And whenever I ask the AD who they want to play so I can support accordinly, no-one ever bloody answers -.-
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Yeah, Sivir is very good. It's easy to go oh man, Trist/Kog'maw/Corki/Graves/Vayne have stronger late games than X, but the thing is, there are precious few games where you get to late game on even terms with the other team. No matter what AD carry you play, if you win bot lane hard enough, you will be ahead the rest of the game and end it before they can catch up.
I have been playing Sivir a few times this week, and I've won every game I've played with her. She's been really natural and fun to pick up. I find her laning very solid with spell shield, and using her W to constantly harass is great. I play an aggressive bot lane too, and constantly shoving the enemy to the tower and making them lose CS works very well on her. And her minion clearing/tower pushing is really good too.
You can really pick Janna, Alistar, Alistar, Leona, Nunu, Lulu, Soraka or Taric and be fine bot lane, even if you first pick the support. The key is you and your AD knowing how you must change your lane play depending on the matchup. I try to have my team first pick AD if possible, but I don't care about first picking support.
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If I manage to survive the early game vs a Blitz lane, then he falls off and does nothing, but I need tips with dealing with him early.
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Dealing with Blitz requires a support that can counter-initiate, or reset a fight. Alistar, Leona and Janna are pretty good at this, while Nunu can Ice Ball the opposing carry to reduce the damage they'd deal with straight autos. Of course, it won't effect AD Caster sorts (Ezreal, maybe Varus, to some degree Graves and Sivir for example) but it really does shut down right-click-only champs.
It also requires good bush control as you mentioned. You don't really want Soraka or Sona, as all they can do is heal and hope (or perhaps Silence an AD Caster sort in Soraka's case), which doesn't work well against a big burst of damage. Maybe Soraka's armour buff would help if she was quick with it, and Silencing Blitz so he doesn't get the grab->uppercut->silence combo off would be possible if you were in the right place.
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Even with a Soraka I can win the lane because I abuse the unlimited mana and heals. I will punish blitz or the AD any time they're close enough to be hit, even if I take some damage, because hey, I have a mana battery and heals to keep me in lane. Eventually you just push them out of lane. The only real way to lose the lane is if you or your support get caught in a hook after level 3 and feeds their AD kills. If I'm running support I usually run Alistar because he has a giant hitbox, and they're not going to want to hook you anyway since you can just knockup, disengage and heal back the damage.
As mentioned above, a good Nunu support is also really good against that lane just because with his AS steroid on your AD and AS debuff on their AD it makes for favorable trades for you as long as they don't hook somebody under their tower or something, but if you let that happen, you're in trouble from the start.
I played horrible. Went 0-11. Mid never called an MIA and the Nassus kept getting himself way out of position. He then proceeded to urge everyone to report me for intentionally feeding.
Next game I went with Teemo and good times were had.
Bought Renekton last night with IP and gave him a few goes. He is tricky getting his harass down, but I really like him in teamfights. I can see me playing a lot more renekton in the future.
Leona could probably also be switched to ali, so you have some sustain to counter his harass, since even if you are laying down the hurt on him, he can still do some back.
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He's wonderful.
Yeah, despite the fact I don't play top lane all that often I win nearly all my Renekton games. He's a beast.
Yeah I was wondering about him, he seems like he would get a good deal of benefit from a bloodthirster, but all the guides I read, no one recommends building it on him. I know he has the innate sustain from cull the meek, but I feel like the huge bump in attack damage would make him hurt that much harder, a lot like riven. So far I have been building him cd boots, randuins, brutalizer, frozen mallet, atma's/maw of malmortius depending on the enemy team comp, upgrade the brutalizer if I have gold left. Seems to work perfectly considering you are right in the thick of things. I thought about getting more attack speed in the form of a a wits end to help build rage faster, but when you pop the ult that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. That said, I wish his ult did percentage hp damage as opposed to flat damage or at least came close to Nasus' ult damage (which almost always clocks in at 240 damage per second). Still though really like him. Also his rune wars skin is fantastic, might have to buy that soon.
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Bloodthirster on Renekton is a matchup thing. If you are doing super well in your lane, grab it early, keep smashing faces. All of the faces. If you need more harass, Brutalizer. If they have high magic damage, Hexdrinker, etc. As long as it has attack damage and you eventually get some defenses on him, you can't really go wrong on him. (Note: He is NOT an Autoattacker, don't build him like one)
Just like ezreal
Its weird
I guess Darius and Varus are just overpowered, but I dominate top with Darius and bottom with Varus, but when I switch to Renekton top I suck bad, and when I switch to Ez bot I also suck
I want to be better with renekton and ezreal
I don't think I've heard anybody call Varus OP before
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I might just be saying this because he's the only carry apart from Graves that I do consistently well with.
Edit: For skill order I max W, then E, then Q. Q's got a good enough ratio that it still does decent damage with no extra skill points, and E improves significantly for no added mana cost. W first is just because I like the AA damage; I think most people agree that E > Q, though.
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To go top means to occupy the top lane, usually by yourself, and to go bot is to play in the bottom lane, typically with an AD carry and a support.
The other difference is you usually go two bot in order to have more people available to protect dragon since it's an incredibly important objective.
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Not to say Baron isn't, but dragon is more easily attainable with less than your full team. By level 5, you should be able to take dragon with your jungler, AD, and support.
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Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!
I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.
Alistar is good vs everyone(in that he can transition to a safe support if he gets counter picked), lets you swap with your jungle if you do get counter picked and of course prevents the other team from picking Alistar. Like Janna Alistar doesn't have any carries he is particularly bad with, just carries he isn't particularly good with. If you end up running Ashe/Alistar Alistar can still protect Ashe even if they can't turn things into kills as easily.
He is probably the hardest support to counter pick with maybe the exception of Janna[ i actually think its easier to counter pick Janna]
Nunu/Soraka/Taric are a lot more dangerous to first pick than Janna or Alistar. Taric gets countered by AD carry picks(sivir) and since his CC is single target and he has no dislocate he absolutely has to be able to find someone out of position. An aggressive support like Nunu or Alistar paired with a long range carry will ruin his day since in order to be valuable he has to close the gap between the carry and the support... or focus the support. Nunu gets countered by anyone who can ignore Nunu(and/or strong harass that forces him to not be in front of the fight). Once they can ignore Nunu he is only his buffs/debuffs and once his AD carry goes down so does the majority of his damage. Soraka gets countered by AD carry picks and support picks. She is terribly easy to deal with as a first pick unless she has a strong tanky carry like graves/urgot our front that she can mana-battery. So if the enemy team picks Soraka, all you have to do is pick Graves/Taric and they're boned as if they put an AD out in front of Soraka you're going to focus and kill them and if they put soraka closer to the front you just kill soraka, ditto graves/blitz or urgot/blitz. Since Roka can't afford to be pulled, this gives you free reign of the brush and if you do ever get their AD Soraka is too far away to help.
Yes, because Sivir is not a "worse" AD carry. It is however, not wrong to prefer Sivir over other AD carries. ATM i think the only thing holding down sivir's popularity is the lack of play she sees in tournaments. And because she is easy to counter pick[IMO Ashe/Ezreal/Cait
It's never been between LW and MBR. It's between Last Whisper and Black Cleaver. MBR has a certain role and it is good for certain champions/situations.
Agree Cait beats Sivir, and good Ez beats Sivir 1v1 if played right. Not sure about Ashe though. Just need reflexes for that match up.
Urgot is a great counter pick against any AD. That's basically what he's there for. He's basically for team comps where you want to not fight traditional 5v5 fights, instead using his ult to catch people out after having beaten bottom lane into being behind you. The tradeoff is that if you try to play him like a typical AD carry and dont' win your lane hard, and don't use his ult to create 5v4s, you will probably get stomped because he does nowhere near the damage of a fed Graves, Trist, Kog, or any of the other typical AD carries.
And yeah, Renekton is one of the best laners in the game, and while his late game is nowhere near as good as some tops, he is so damn good at laning you can often get so far ahead that you end the game with you so far ahead of their top they're a non-factor.