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[League of Legends] Hargaad has the new form! Painhouse is about to get majorly revamped!
So, build advice for supportcrank? I've been doing fairie/wards/pots to start, philo, boots 1, hog, then....
If you want to be a proper support you build shurelya's and aegis(if your jungler didn't build one of these). If not, frozen heart, manamune, and other items that give him more mana can be fun times too.
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So, build advice for supportcrank? I've been doing fairie/wards/pots to start, philo, boots 1, hog, then....
If you want to be a proper support you build shurelya's and aegis(if your jungler didn't build one of these). If not, frozen heart, manamune, and other items that give him more mana can be fun times too.
All I wanted was a quick game before I had to start working from home today. Who knew 5 games with people dodging out during champ select for various butthurt reasons could take so damn long?
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But you, pig, are a lucky one. Tell us what we wish to know, and you may yet keep your bacon.
Nemlock for online gaming
Hey guys.. Just wanted to pop on here because I made up my mind that I wanted to get serious about playing these thar esports again (time permitting) because I do see it as having a decent ROI for the future.. What all that means is that I'm looking to get a team together, preferrably of the PAers who have been awesome that I've played with (You know who you are..). Anyway, I'm gonna be making this more official when time permits, and I put some more thought into it, and speak with my GF about what I can swing, but I'm going to be creating a full fledged team, and will be getting sponsors for gear, as well as a possible gaming house within a year (less if the talent is there, I'm more worried about my own becuase i have no intention to sign on to be a "manager" or just a sponsor, but also wouldn't want to drag down a team better than me.) Anyway, long story short, if you wanna play lots of LoL, are interested in playing tournaments (which involves travel, and playing some serious hours.) shoot me a PM. You don't need to be gosu right now, but just know what that means, and aspire to be so. At the very least, we'll get some good team games in on the vent while I try and find out who the true tryhards amongst us are.
Blitz's grab is deceptively hard to land. I am GOOD at threading Sivir's Q between minions, but I think the grab has a much smaller hitbox or something. Couldn't get a grab off to save my life, literally.
What it is is that the start point for his grab is not the center of his body but is actually his right[right?] hand. This means that it turns in slightly, instead of going straight,
Hey guys.. Just wanted to pop on here because I made up my mind that I wanted to get serious about playing these thar esports again (time permitting) because I do see it as having a decent ROI for the future.. What all that means is that I'm looking to get a team together, preferrably of the PAers who have been awesome that I've played with (You know who you are..). Anyway, I'm gonna be making this more official when time permits, and I put some more thought into it, and speak with my GF about what I can swing, but I'm going to be creating a full fledged team, and will be getting sponsors for gear, as well as a possible gaming house within a year (less if the talent is there, I'm more worried about my own becuase i have no intention to sign on to be a "manager" or just a sponsor, but also wouldn't want to drag down a team better than me.) Anyway, long story short, if you wanna play lots of LoL, are interested in playing tournaments (which involves travel, and playing some serious hours.) shoot me a PM. You don't need to be gosu right now, but just know what that means, and aspire to be so. At the very least, we'll get some good team games in on the vent while I try and find out who the true tryhards amongst us are.
You know, if I were a better player this would be intriguing. I'm currently unemployed so I'd actually have the time. Unfortunately, I am not NEARLY good enough for that.
IF EU-W is your alt account, there's a 90% chance you're in the smurf zone because Riot recognized you are not an actual noob. And most of those people are complete trash as human beings.
That said, if they tell you they took the elevator down to hell to fuck your dead mother, you know they are American because a British troll would have said "lift." :P
Yeah I've started suspecting they are smurfs that are trolling. Decided to just do AI games since they are a lot more relaxed. At least until I get to a higher level on that account.
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Metal JaredMulligan WizardRhode IslandRegistered Userregular
edited June 2012
Here's the reason why I cannot stand the Riot fanboys/fangirls
From 0ctaviah on Twitter:
A personal thank you from me to all the hard workin' folks at Riot. We cannot understand the stress that comes from server bugs but TY!
Here's the reason why I cannot stand the Riot fanboys/fangirls
From 0ctaviah on Twitter:
A personal thank you from me to all the hard workin' folks at Riot. We cannot understand the stress that comes from server bugs but TY!
I want to light the fucking atmosphere on fire.
To some extent I understand, but at the same time I work in enterprise IT. If you hit an undocumented bug that only surfaces in production - ok, not your fault. Everything else means you didn't test properly.
Here's the reason why I cannot stand the Riot fanboys/fangirls
From 0ctaviah on Twitter:
A personal thank you from me to all the hard workin' folks at Riot. We cannot understand the stress that comes from server bugs but TY!
I want to light the fucking atmosphere on fire.
You hate riot fanboys that thank people at Riot for working hard to fix things, even when stability is in the shitter? That's uh...an interesting sentiment.
I mean I get being irritated with people who take the stance that a company can do no wrong, but this seemed like an odd comment to single out.
Edit: I'm actually glad that people like that poster exist, because I can't imagine what it would be like to go to work every day when all anyone ever told you was how terrible you were at your job. I think it's good to have a balanced approach.
Here's the reason why I cannot stand the Riot fanboys/fangirls
From 0ctaviah on Twitter:
A personal thank you from me to all the hard workin' folks at Riot. We cannot understand the stress that comes from server bugs but TY!
I want to light the fucking atmosphere on fire.
You hate riot fanboys that thank people at Riot for working hard to fix things, even when stability is in the shitter? That's uh...an interesting sentiment.
I mean I get being irritated with people who take the stance that a company can do no wrong, but this seemed like an odd comment to single out.
Edit: I'm actually glad that people like that poster exist, because I can't imagine what it would be like to go to work every day when all anyone ever told you was how terrible you were at your job. I think it's good to have a balanced approach.
Look I'm not saying you need to tell Riot they're shitty every day but they caused this problem themselves. There wasn't a natural disaster or hacker attack. They didn't test well enough and it bit them in the ass. In essence this person is saying "I can't imagine the stress of creating a problem and then having to fix the problem"
No, I certainly can imagine that because I fuck things up sometimes too and then I have to fix said fuck up. It was my fault in the first place. I'm tired of people taking an altrustic view of a for profit company when those same people bitch at Microsoft/Apple/WalMart/Whoever for doing the same thing.
Sounds to me like somebody said thanks to a company they respect, because human beings work there and were working crazy hours to get the servers working again, and then some guy is mad about someone else's positive attitude. Honestly, if it weren't for people going berserk and demanding recompense when stuff like downtime happens and acting so entitled and silly, people like that person probably wouldn't even tweet that stuff.
Riot deserves no great ill will for a screw up that they compensated people for and apologized for. They're a company that's pretty cool to their players, and people appreciate that. You just sound like a guy looking for something to get mad about.
Theme (unless I hear bloody murder amounts of complaints) - SWITCH
At the 3 minute mark, the captain of each team (lower number goes first) chooses a player on the other team to switch with someone else on that team. For example "Schuss is no longer jungle, but must go mid"
These assignments will continue until laning phase ends (IE roaming of more than mid and jungle commences, usually around 15-18 minutes)
Intent - learn to play adaptively, learn to BUILD A TEAM COMP, learn to push a counterpick
Recommendations - Kill/Flex lanes bottom to prevent support screwage, careful early buff takes for the jungler.
8 PM EST in channel Painhouse
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AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
Theme (unless I hear bloody murder amounts of complaints) - SWITCH
At the 3 minute mark, the captain of each team (lower number goes first) chooses a player on the other team to switch with someone else on that team. For example "Schuss is no longer jungle, but must go mid"
These assignments will continue until laning phase ends (IE roaming of more than mid and jungle commences, usually around 15-18 minutes)
Intent - learn to play adaptively, learn to BUILD A TEAM COMP, learn to push a counterpick
Recommendations - Kill/Flex lanes bottom to prevent support screwage, careful early buff takes for the jungler.
8 PM EST in channel Painhouse
Suggestions: combine this with the "everyone takes teleport," idea someone suggested a few weeks ago that actually seemed doable, use a five-minute window that ends at 20:00.
A Nasus that has over 20k gold at the end of the game is the biggest cockblock.
Everyone else on their team dies... he kills the remainder or walks away and kills a tower.
Hey, ya know what the thread needs? More LoL, less whetever else.
Guess who can beat up Morgana mid and still win with 2 tanks and a support!
Very good job.
One question though, were those CS really low?
I guess? idk, I just throw my daggers erryday.
Looking at it now, i think we won because they didn't know how to build MR worth a crap.
(also, what up with that thornmail on Olaf?)
I think Naut does everything Malph does in jungle, but better. Malph gets nearly impossible to kill when you're against a team where stacking 100% armor is a good idea though.
Been playing him top and like him there more. Can shut down the more dangerous tops and I've been stomping on Riven, Darius, and Irelia.
I am 95% certain that Naut is going to be seeing some hardcore nerfs soon, he's exploded in popularity very quickly.
Unlikely; that's mostly ignorance of what he can do on the part of the guys at top. Once you realize his shield cooldown is enormous he's not too bad to deal with in a duel situation, though he's probably not at all a bad pick against Riven or Darius. His jungle is unremarkable, but not bad, etc. He's a good champion but not terribly strong on his own merits past the early game.
Nautilus has already been nerfed. I don't like him as a top, but I had to reply to this, because you said his jungle is unremarkable. This couldn't be less true. Literally the only way Nautilus doesn't outclass the enemy jungler is if they aggressively counter jungle, and by that I don't mean steal camps, I mean pick a jungler that can invade his jungle and kill him before he can get away or before his lanes can react.
Very few junglers have ganks better than him. Even without his ult his hook and the move speed slow on E are amazing, and with his ult, nothing but a flash is going to save an enemy. Plus you build him tanky, so it's so easy to use his ult to gank people even under towers. There's a reason he's played or banned in basically 100% of tournament games.
The ganks are fantastic; I'm talking about his so-so clear rate and dependence on blue, which are both pretty notable downsides in a world with Shyvana and Mundo. Don't get me wrong: Nautilus is a pretty darn strong champion. I like him a lot, and would not have stuck with this game for several months after reinstalling a while ago if I hadn't seen him immediately. Jungle-wise, though, he's in the middle of the pack, he's a great conservative top but can't carry with all that farm (not that you expect him to, if you're sensible), and he's a hugely entertaining kill-lane / zoning support.
He's not middle of the pack as a jungler. He's top tier. His clear is not as fast as Shyvana, Mundo, or Udyr, but people don't play a super aggressive counter jungle where they try to come kill you for the most part, so it doesn't matter. There's a reason Nautilus, Nocturne, Maokai, and the like are the most played junglers in tourneys. In the current jungle it doesn't matter if their clear is as fast, because they can still clear it plenty fast, and their ganks are strong. Also, Nautilus is not even remotely blue dependent past the first blue, which is the same as any other mana using jungler. You build philo/hog into tanky items and you will never have a single mana problem after taking only the first blue.
Honestly, the way people play league, a jungler with great ganks and a good team fight presence(Nautilus) is almost always the best way to go. The only real counter to him is an Olaf, Shyvana, Mundo, etc. who actually invade his jungle with the intent to kill him, which nobody does in regular games because they don't know if their lanes will react as quickly as the other team's, and it could just get them killed.
We're going to have to agree to disagree about Nautlius' place on the jungle spectrum, because it sounds like we weight the features of that role differently. I think your analysis is pretty much correct regarding why he's picked and what he's good at, though. Nautilus, Nocturne, and Maokai all combine pretty darn good sustain for a jungler with excellent cc, which I think is the biggest reason you see them picked in tournaments. If you were reading ChaosHat's jungling-related commentary, one of the things he was finding as he climbed the ladder was that he was moving away from needing to invest in sustain in order to stay competitive. Champions with a leg up on that are, at this moment in League of Legends, inherently better choices in the jungle.
Yeah, they're crazy low CS totals. Blind pick with no jungle and no 0 cs support means they're going to split, but the mids had super low CS. Of course, once Katarina starts snowballing kills she isn't concerned with CSing when she can roam and kill every lane, so she had an excuse.
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Laning phase never ends. (stay in your lane outside of base area, or enemy base area)
Limit 1 jungler, jungler must solo dragon/baron.
FUNSIES
Nah, those would both keep us in the game longer to no particular good effect. If I'm already losing top I don't want to be forced to go back and feed Olaf some more.
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Metal JaredMulligan WizardRhode IslandRegistered Userregular
Laning phase never ends. (stay in your lane outside of base area, or enemy base area)
Limit 1 jungler, jungler must solo dragon/baron.
FUNSIES
Nah, those would both keep us in the game longer to no particular good effect. If I'm already losing top I don't want to be forced to go back and feed Olaf some more.
Uh, why would you put olaf in the top lane when you can switch him to bot. Silly.
Watched Studio's Malphite analysis and OH HEY Malphite is free! So I gave him a shot in a botmatch.
Laned with a Jax top.
Oh boy.
Jax kept pinging like mad, so I went "okay" and initiated.
And then Jax stayed the hell away from the whole fight and I get pummeled (but get away).
And then he decides to jump into the fight, and naturally die.
He kept doing that the whole game. I initiate, he sits with his thumb up his ass waiting for the second coming of Hubbard, and then he joins in way after I've already blown my CDs and started disengaging.
Oh, and then he kept getting mad at me for dying when he fought 1v2s at 20% health all the time. Or dived the tower and got mad at me for not magically making it shoot me instead.
Watched Studio's Malphite analysis and OH HEY Malphite is free! So I gave him a shot in a botmatch.
Laned with a Jax top.
Oh boy.
Jax kept pinging like mad, so I went "okay" and initiated.
And then Jax stayed the hell away from the whole fight and I get pummeled (but get away).
And then he decides to jump into the fight, and naturally die.
He kept doing that the whole game. I initiate, he sits with his thumb up his ass waiting for the second coming of Hubbard, and then he joins in way after I've already blown my CDs and started disengaging.
Oh, and then he kept getting mad at me for dying when he fought 1v2s at 20% health all the time. Or dived the tower and got mad at me for not magically making it shoot me instead.
I have had this same situation happen to me all the time lately.
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AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
Laning phase never ends. (stay in your lane outside of base area, or enemy base area)
Limit 1 jungler, jungler must solo dragon/baron.
FUNSIES
Nah, those would both keep us in the game longer to no particular good effect. If I'm already losing top I don't want to be forced to go back and feed Olaf some more.
Uh, why would you put olaf in the top lane when you can switch him to bot. Silly.
Better question: Why would you move a 3/0 Olaf out of top when you can move Malzahar to the bottom and free up your carry to push on the guy he's been pressuring.
I think Naut does everything Malph does in jungle, but better. Malph gets nearly impossible to kill when you're against a team where stacking 100% armor is a good idea though.
Been playing him top and like him there more. Can shut down the more dangerous tops and I've been stomping on Riven, Darius, and Irelia.
I am 95% certain that Naut is going to be seeing some hardcore nerfs soon, he's exploded in popularity very quickly.
Unlikely; that's mostly ignorance of what he can do on the part of the guys at top. Once you realize his shield cooldown is enormous he's not too bad to deal with in a duel situation, though he's probably not at all a bad pick against Riven or Darius. His jungle is unremarkable, but not bad, etc. He's a good champion but not terribly strong on his own merits past the early game.
Nautilus has already been nerfed. I don't like him as a top, but I had to reply to this, because you said his jungle is unremarkable. This couldn't be less true. Literally the only way Nautilus doesn't outclass the enemy jungler is if they aggressively counter jungle, and by that I don't mean steal camps, I mean pick a jungler that can invade his jungle and kill him before he can get away or before his lanes can react.
Very few junglers have ganks better than him. Even without his ult his hook and the move speed slow on E are amazing, and with his ult, nothing but a flash is going to save an enemy. Plus you build him tanky, so it's so easy to use his ult to gank people even under towers. There's a reason he's played or banned in basically 100% of tournament games.
The ganks are fantastic; I'm talking about his so-so clear rate and dependence on blue, which are both pretty notable downsides in a world with Shyvana and Mundo. Don't get me wrong: Nautilus is a pretty darn strong champion. I like him a lot, and would not have stuck with this game for several months after reinstalling a while ago if I hadn't seen him immediately. Jungle-wise, though, he's in the middle of the pack, he's a great conservative top but can't carry with all that farm (not that you expect him to, if you're sensible), and he's a hugely entertaining kill-lane / zoning support.
He's not middle of the pack as a jungler. He's top tier. His clear is not as fast as Shyvana, Mundo, or Udyr, but people don't play a super aggressive counter jungle where they try to come kill you for the most part, so it doesn't matter. There's a reason Nautilus, Nocturne, Maokai, and the like are the most played junglers in tourneys. In the current jungle it doesn't matter if their clear is as fast, because they can still clear it plenty fast, and their ganks are strong. Also, Nautilus is not even remotely blue dependent past the first blue, which is the same as any other mana using jungler. You build philo/hog into tanky items and you will never have a single mana problem after taking only the first blue.
Honestly, the way people play league, a jungler with great ganks and a good team fight presence(Nautilus) is almost always the best way to go. The only real counter to him is an Olaf, Shyvana, Mundo, etc. who actually invade his jungle with the intent to kill him, which nobody does in regular games because they don't know if their lanes will react as quickly as the other team's, and it could just get them killed.
We're going to have to agree to disagree about Nautlius' place on the jungle spectrum, because it sounds like we weight the features of that role differently. I think your analysis is pretty much correct regarding why he's picked and what he's good at, though. Nautilus, Nocturne, and Maokai all combine pretty darn good sustain for a jungler with excellent cc, which I think is the biggest reason you see them picked in tournaments. If you were reading ChaosHat's jungling-related commentary, one of the things he was finding as he climbed the ladder was that he was moving away from needing to invest in sustain in order to stay competitive. Champions with a leg up on that are, at this moment in League of Legends, inherently better choices in the jungle.
It's fine if you prefer counter jungling speed clears, but that doesn't change that Nautilus is a top tier jungler. Like I said, there's a reason he's almost universally picked in tournaments. I like to watch streams of pro players, and some of them give pretty insightful commentary on this stuff. Theoddone jungles all sorts of characters, and if he goes against somebody who picks Nautilus or somebody like that he will play Mundo, Shyvana, Olaf, Lee Sin, etc., steal their jungle, try to kill them, etc. But if they pick a jungler who isn't a great counter jungler, Nautilus is the way to go. Or if you know your team is going to help you protect your buffs.
I don't think any other jungler can gank as well as Nautilus at all points of the game. Maokai is the only other one who can pre 6 gank as strongly, and even then, Nautilus is better because his hook, slow, and immobilize on his passive mean easy kills. If you don't miss the hook, it's a flash or a death, and if you get an early assist or two and get those gp10 items and mobility boots, it's fear city, population other team. Once he has the ult, you can almost get a kill at will unless your lane just can't do any damage.
The beauty of the jungle is there are just tons of characters who can do it well, and no jungler is a perfect pick against every opposing jungler/every team comp.
Watched Studio's Malphite analysis and OH HEY Malphite is free! So I gave him a shot in a botmatch.
Laned with a Jax top.
Oh boy.
Jax kept pinging like mad, so I went "okay" and initiated.
And then Jax stayed the hell away from the whole fight and I get pummeled (but get away).
And then he decides to jump into the fight, and naturally die.
He kept doing that the whole game. I initiate, he sits with his thumb up his ass waiting for the second coming of Hubbard, and then he joins in way after I've already blown my CDs and started disengaging.
Oh, and then he kept getting mad at me for dying when he fought 1v2s at 20% health all the time. Or dived the tower and got mad at me for not magically making it shoot me instead.
Yeah, that guy is basically to to inflate his multi-kill score. He's probably mad that you didn't sit and die so that the other guys were just low enough for him to double-kill.
laning phase the whole game is just about who gets the first leg up, as they'll be able to exploit it constantly. Just so everyone knows, my goal every week is to tweak the style of normal games just a bit to force you into a situation you may not prefer, but can adapt to and have fun with, as the other team is similarly gimped. This will help expand your skill repertoire, focus on teamwork and try to intelligently think through picks and bans. By doing non-standard games, some of the pressure is relieved around performance, as you can always blame the rule of the week (and by extension, me), which makes everyone play better in a more enjoyable fashion.
As I've said before, I'd do a tryhard league if there was interest, but I try to stay away from ego shattering unless we have a large enough competitive community, which we probably will have once D3 dies down a bit.
I'm fine with the goal as stated, but is there some restriction about how many times you can swap the same person? Like you go, "Ryze and Naut swap mid and jungle." Then three minutes later you go "Ryze and Irelia swap jungle and top." It would get really frustrating as Ryze to be constantly swapped position without the time to really dig into your role. I suggest that 2 players that were swapped can't be swapped again on the next call. Also, that for purposes of this exercise lanning has a time where is ends, say 20:00. Also, the captain HAS to switch 2 people. You can't be like, we're winning so I want them to stay where they are.
I'm fine with the goal as stated, but is there some restriction about how many times you can swap the same person? Like you go, "Ryze and Naut swap mid and jungle." Then three minutes later you go "Ryze and Irelia swap jungle and top." It would get really frustrating as Ryze to be constantly swapped position without the time to really dig into your role. I suggest that 2 players that were swapped can't be swapped again on the next call. Also, that for purposes of this exercise lanning has a time where is ends, say 20:00. Also, the captain HAS to switch 2 people. You can't be like, we're winning so I want them to stay where they are.
One swap at 3 minutes. That's it. Not constant switches.
I almost hate winning in a dominated game as much as getting dominated. Not quite, but man it's so boring. Just finished a game where I'm Graves with blitz support against an Ashe/Nunu and it just wasn't even fair. I ended the game with 12k gold to her 5.5. She had boots 1 and 3 doran's when I had boots 2, 2 doran's, and a bloodthirster.
In other news, sniping people just when they thought they got away with Graves' ult is one of the funniest things you get to do in league.
Hey guys.. Just wanted to pop on here because I made up my mind that I wanted to get serious about playing these thar esports again (time permitting) because I do see it as having a decent ROI for the future.. What all that means is that I'm looking to get a team together, preferrably of the PAers who have been awesome that I've played with (You know who you are..). Anyway, I'm gonna be making this more official when time permits, and I put some more thought into it, and speak with my GF about what I can swing, but I'm going to be creating a full fledged team, and will be getting sponsors for gear, as well as a possible gaming house within a year (less if the talent is there, I'm more worried about my own becuase i have no intention to sign on to be a "manager" or just a sponsor, but also wouldn't want to drag down a team better than me.) Anyway, long story short, if you wanna play lots of LoL, are interested in playing tournaments (which involves travel, and playing some serious hours.) shoot me a PM. You don't need to be gosu right now, but just know what that means, and aspire to be so. At the very least, we'll get some good team games in on the vent while I try and find out who the true tryhards amongst us are.
I'd love to join in on this, as I play League pretty much all day every day. Being unemployed has it's benefits.
But also some setbacks. Being unemployed means I don't have the money for travel.
So, it's a matter of finding that balance.
That being said, I think my fellow peers of PA can attest to my HSGG style of play. Sometimes, I'm fucking amazing. Other times, you wonder what the fuck I'm doing playing games when I clearly should be in an adult remedial class on how to tie my own fucking shoes.
But overall, I think I could be an asset to your group. I play jungle alright with rammus and a couple others, and support is my real strong suit with Soraka and Taric. I'm practicing new champs each week on my alt accounts, and I think there's ALWAYS room for improvement. I sometimes hand out advice to ears that don't want to hear it, but I, myself, love getting feedback on what I did wrong. I like the details of what I did wrong. Having somebody say, "All of that...don't do all of that ever again, or you're off my fucking list" isn't helping.
Also, as evidenced by that last sentence, I tend to rib people often. I'm learning who does and doesn't like it, and trying to be better about it, but dear fucking God, people need to learn to loosen up and take a joke.
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If you want to be a proper support you build shurelya's and aegis(if your jungler didn't build one of these). If not, frozen heart, manamune, and other items that give him more mana can be fun times too.
Faerie/Wards/Pots
Philo
Boots1
Tear
HoG/Boots2
Manamune/Frozen Heart/Triforce/finish gp10 items as necessary
Nemlock for online gaming
What it is is that the start point for his grab is not the center of his body but is actually his right[right?] hand. This means that it turns in slightly, instead of going straight,
You know, if I were a better player this would be intriguing. I'm currently unemployed so I'd actually have the time. Unfortunately, I am not NEARLY good enough for that.
Yeah I've started suspecting they are smurfs that are trolling. Decided to just do AI games since they are a lot more relaxed. At least until I get to a higher level on that account.
From 0ctaviah on Twitter:
I want to light the fucking atmosphere on fire.
PSN: SoulCrusherJared
To some extent I understand, but at the same time I work in enterprise IT. If you hit an undocumented bug that only surfaces in production - ok, not your fault. Everything else means you didn't test properly.
You hate riot fanboys that thank people at Riot for working hard to fix things, even when stability is in the shitter? That's uh...an interesting sentiment.
I mean I get being irritated with people who take the stance that a company can do no wrong, but this seemed like an odd comment to single out.
Edit: I'm actually glad that people like that poster exist, because I can't imagine what it would be like to go to work every day when all anyone ever told you was how terrible you were at your job. I think it's good to have a balanced approach.
Look I'm not saying you need to tell Riot they're shitty every day but they caused this problem themselves. There wasn't a natural disaster or hacker attack. They didn't test well enough and it bit them in the ass. In essence this person is saying "I can't imagine the stress of creating a problem and then having to fix the problem"
No, I certainly can imagine that because I fuck things up sometimes too and then I have to fix said fuck up. It was my fault in the first place. I'm tired of people taking an altrustic view of a for profit company when those same people bitch at Microsoft/Apple/WalMart/Whoever for doing the same thing.
PSN: SoulCrusherJared
Riot deserves no great ill will for a screw up that they compensated people for and apologized for. They're a company that's pretty cool to their players, and people appreciate that. You just sound like a guy looking for something to get mad about.
PSN: BrightWing13 FFX|V:ARR Bright Asuna
Theme (unless I hear bloody murder amounts of complaints) - SWITCH
At the 3 minute mark, the captain of each team (lower number goes first) chooses a player on the other team to switch with someone else on that team. For example "Schuss is no longer jungle, but must go mid"
These assignments will continue until laning phase ends (IE roaming of more than mid and jungle commences, usually around 15-18 minutes)
Intent - learn to play adaptively, learn to BUILD A TEAM COMP, learn to push a counterpick
Recommendations - Kill/Flex lanes bottom to prevent support screwage, careful early buff takes for the jungler.
8 PM EST in channel Painhouse
Suggestions: combine this with the "everyone takes teleport," idea someone suggested a few weeks ago that actually seemed doable, use a five-minute window that ends at 20:00.
Laning phase never ends. (stay in your lane outside of base area, or enemy base area)
Limit 1 jungler, jungler must solo dragon/baron.
FUNSIES
Everyone else on their team dies... he kills the remainder or walks away and kills a tower.
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Very good job.
One question though, were those CS really low?
PSN: SoulCrusherJared
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I guess? idk, I just throw my daggers erryday.
Looking at it now, i think we won because they didn't know how to build MR worth a crap.
(also, what up with that thornmail on Olaf?)
PSN: BrightWing13 FFX|V:ARR Bright Asuna
We're going to have to agree to disagree about Nautlius' place on the jungle spectrum, because it sounds like we weight the features of that role differently. I think your analysis is pretty much correct regarding why he's picked and what he's good at, though. Nautilus, Nocturne, and Maokai all combine pretty darn good sustain for a jungler with excellent cc, which I think is the biggest reason you see them picked in tournaments. If you were reading ChaosHat's jungling-related commentary, one of the things he was finding as he climbed the ladder was that he was moving away from needing to invest in sustain in order to stay competitive. Champions with a leg up on that are, at this moment in League of Legends, inherently better choices in the jungle.
Nah, those would both keep us in the game longer to no particular good effect. If I'm already losing top I don't want to be forced to go back and feed Olaf some more.
This is true, there were a very large amount of kills which I guess makes it hard to farm if you're dead.
PSN: SoulCrusherJared
Uh, why would you put olaf in the top lane when you can switch him to bot. Silly.
Laned with a Jax top.
Oh boy.
Jax kept pinging like mad, so I went "okay" and initiated.
And then Jax stayed the hell away from the whole fight and I get pummeled (but get away).
And then he decides to jump into the fight, and naturally die.
He kept doing that the whole game. I initiate, he sits with his thumb up his ass waiting for the second coming of Hubbard, and then he joins in way after I've already blown my CDs and started disengaging.
Oh, and then he kept getting mad at me for dying when he fought 1v2s at 20% health all the time. Or dived the tower and got mad at me for not magically making it shoot me instead.
I have had this same situation happen to me all the time lately.
Better question: Why would you move a 3/0 Olaf out of top when you can move Malzahar to the bottom and free up your carry to push on the guy he's been pressuring.
It's fine if you prefer counter jungling speed clears, but that doesn't change that Nautilus is a top tier jungler. Like I said, there's a reason he's almost universally picked in tournaments. I like to watch streams of pro players, and some of them give pretty insightful commentary on this stuff. Theoddone jungles all sorts of characters, and if he goes against somebody who picks Nautilus or somebody like that he will play Mundo, Shyvana, Olaf, Lee Sin, etc., steal their jungle, try to kill them, etc. But if they pick a jungler who isn't a great counter jungler, Nautilus is the way to go. Or if you know your team is going to help you protect your buffs.
I don't think any other jungler can gank as well as Nautilus at all points of the game. Maokai is the only other one who can pre 6 gank as strongly, and even then, Nautilus is better because his hook, slow, and immobilize on his passive mean easy kills. If you don't miss the hook, it's a flash or a death, and if you get an early assist or two and get those gp10 items and mobility boots, it's fear city, population other team. Once he has the ult, you can almost get a kill at will unless your lane just can't do any damage.
The beauty of the jungle is there are just tons of characters who can do it well, and no jungler is a perfect pick against every opposing jungler/every team comp.
Yeah, that guy is basically to to inflate his multi-kill score. He's probably mad that you didn't sit and die so that the other guys were just low enough for him to double-kill.
*shakes head*
As I've said before, I'd do a tryhard league if there was interest, but I try to stay away from ego shattering unless we have a large enough competitive community, which we probably will have once D3 dies down a bit.
One swap at 3 minutes. That's it. Not constant switches.
In other news, sniping people just when they thought they got away with Graves' ult is one of the funniest things you get to do in league.
I'd love to join in on this, as I play League pretty much all day every day. Being unemployed has it's benefits.
But also some setbacks. Being unemployed means I don't have the money for travel.
So, it's a matter of finding that balance.
That being said, I think my fellow peers of PA can attest to my HSGG style of play. Sometimes, I'm fucking amazing. Other times, you wonder what the fuck I'm doing playing games when I clearly should be in an adult remedial class on how to tie my own fucking shoes.
But overall, I think I could be an asset to your group. I play jungle alright with rammus and a couple others, and support is my real strong suit with Soraka and Taric. I'm practicing new champs each week on my alt accounts, and I think there's ALWAYS room for improvement. I sometimes hand out advice to ears that don't want to hear it, but I, myself, love getting feedback on what I did wrong. I like the details of what I did wrong. Having somebody say, "All of that...don't do all of that ever again, or you're off my fucking list" isn't helping.
Also, as evidenced by that last sentence, I tend to rib people often. I'm learning who does and doesn't like it, and trying to be better about it, but dear fucking God, people need to learn to loosen up and take a joke.
tl;dr? I'm in!...kinda, maybe. >_>
Yelling at butts will never NOT be funny. Thanks, Psy!
Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!
I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.
I was Ez with a Leona support and she kept dashing into the Vayne/Lulu team under their tower at like level 4
I would just stay back and watch her die and then she would yell NOOB EZ YOU SUCK YOU DUMBASS
And I'm like "im not the one who initiated under the tower"
That's not the only tiny thing about him.
Yelling at butts will never NOT be funny. Thanks, Psy!
Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!
I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.