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Did you guys see the concept Aventador J? Holy balls:
Apparently Lamborghini made 1 of them for someone specific. Talk about a rare car. :P
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L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
Do want!!!!
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
Yeah, like, that car appeals to me on so many levels.
The little boy who loved the Countach growing up.
The teenager who loved the Diablo.
And now the adult that would like nothing more than to feel the terror of 216 mph in an open cockpit.
Yeah, like, that car appeals to me on so many levels.
The little boy who loved the Countach growing up.
The teenager who loved the Diablo.
And now the adult that would like nothing more than to feel the terror of 216 mph in an open cockpit.
I'd never want to actually drive that car, but I enjoy that Lamborghini continues to be on the fucking completely insane end of car design. Shine on you crazy diamonds.
I really enjoy that fascia though. It's just absurd enough to loop back around to awesome.
I don't have much basis for this but I would also go with the focus over a VW. A few of my coworkers have VWs and they seem to break pretty frequently compared to everything else.
Anecdotes, YAY!
It makes me sad that these sorts of impressions are still prevalent. I can say with total certainty, Diagnosing VW/Audi is easier than MOST domestic cars, I haven't dealt with the Ford Focus ST. Problems are about as common as any other car. While I like Ford (Mazda), and have no issues with the Focus, I think it would be better to test drive each, and get some feedback from people who actually own the cars. It's hard to find an unhappy GTI owner.
Anecdotal evidence: Look at Ford Focus and the air filter crap they did for California Emissions. (Cough) $600 (Cough). '04 -'11 i think.
Sharp lookin' GTI there Ronzo. After 6 hours of haggling and exciting paperwork at the dealership I picked up my Focus ST3. Will post a pic when the weather isn't crap.
Wicked: I test drove both a few times, loved them both. Wanted to buy during the end of year sales so I didn't have time to ask many owners. Solid advice though!
I don't have much basis for this but I would also go with the focus over a VW. A few of my coworkers have VWs and they seem to break pretty frequently compared to everything else.
Anecdotes, YAY!
It makes me sad that these sorts of impressions are still prevalent. I can say with total certainty, Diagnosing VW/Audi is easier than MOST domestic cars, I haven't dealt with the Ford Focus ST. Problems are about as common as any other car. While I like Ford (Mazda), and have no issues with the Focus, I think it would be better to test drive each, and get some feedback from people who actually own the cars. It's hard to find an unhappy GTI owner.
Anecdotal evidence: Look at Ford Focus and the air filter crap they did for California Emissions. (Cough) $600 (Cough). '04 -'11 i think.
So VW/Audi is easier to diagnose but are the problems for those cars more prevalent or less? I should have specified that my two coworkers who had VW problems have had at least two electrical problems each in the past 4-5 years. I can't say I've heard of common electrical problems within my circle of friends and coworkers who own Subarus. On the other hand I've heard of some problems with head gasket issues on some pre-2005 Subarus. (I had that problem on my 2.5rs but Subaru fixed it for free even after my car was out of warranty. So bonus points for them.)
As I said, I have no real statistical basis for my opinions on these things, but I would be interested if someone else happened to have some stats on repair frequency of various car brands.
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Most problems in the Focus seem to be either with the MyTouch system in some way or with their auto transmissions.
I remember I was on a business trip and one of the guys I was with was ragging on a focus he'd rented before and pretty much all his issues seemed like they could be attributed to an awful automatic transmission. Very glad I dodged that bullet although the lack of an interior trunk release is completely baffling to me.
Most problems in the Focus seem to be either with the MyTouch system in some way or with their auto transmissions.
I remember I was on a business trip and one of the guys I was with was ragging on a focus he'd rented before and pretty much all his issues seemed like they could be attributed to an awful automatic transmission. Very glad I dodged that bullet although the lack of an interior trunk release is completely baffling to me.
I thought those were federally mandated? Or at least required in California.
Most problems in the Focus seem to be either with the MyTouch system in some way or with their auto transmissions.
I remember I was on a business trip and one of the guys I was with was ragging on a focus he'd rented before and pretty much all his issues seemed like they could be attributed to an awful automatic transmission. Very glad I dodged that bullet although the lack of an interior trunk release is completely baffling to me.
I thought those were federally mandated? Or at least required in California.
An in-trunk release, yes. You don't have to have a release in the cabin.
Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
Most problems in the Focus seem to be either with the MyTouch system in some way or with their auto transmissions.
I remember I was on a business trip and one of the guys I was with was ragging on a focus he'd rented before and pretty much all his issues seemed like they could be attributed to an awful automatic transmission. Very glad I dodged that bullet although the lack of an interior trunk release is completely baffling to me.
I thought those were federally mandated? Or at least required in California.
An in-trunk release, yes. You don't have to have a release in the cabin.
I'm usually not a huge Lambo fan, but holy shit that chop top a few posts back is gorgeous.
Lambo always just seemed like ugly Ferrari's to me, but this is how it should be.
I fully expect it to shoot lazers.
Most problems in the Focus seem to be either with the MyTouch system in some way or with their auto transmissions.
I remember I was on a business trip and one of the guys I was with was ragging on a focus he'd rented before and pretty much all his issues seemed like they could be attributed to an awful automatic transmission. Very glad I dodged that bullet although the lack of an interior trunk release is completely baffling to me.
I thought those were federally mandated? Or at least required in California.
An in-trunk release, yes. You don't have to have a release in the cabin.
:shock: I thought he meant the in trunk release.
Unless I'm planning my escape from kidnappers, that's not the first one I think of. :P
Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
There is an in-cabin trunk release on the 2013 Focus, it's right next to the headlight switch.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
I'm a fan of super cars that do understated luxury, like Audi, or bat shit audacious, like lambo. To me Ferrari falls in the middle and I like it less because of it.
I dig Lambo for being crazy, but I have little love for Audi, they're just so eh. Ferrari seems like a good compromise to me. Granted, I've never been in a Ferrari.
My favorite super car manufacturer is Aston Martin though, even though they really make Super Touring cars and not traditional super cars.
Even if I had shit tons of money I don't think I would ever own a super car unless
A) It came with a "prevent crash" button
or I spent gobs of time and practice with increasingly powerful cars learning how to really drive before getting behind the wheel of some 600 hp monster.
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I'd be super tempted to buy an Aston Martin but I don't know if I could do it since they're so expensive and I'd spend so much time worrying about anything happening to it.
Even if I had shit tons of money I don't think I would ever own a super car unless
A) It came with a "prevent crash" button
or I spent gobs of time and practice with increasingly powerful cars learning how to really drive before getting behind the wheel of some 600 hp monster.
I don't know. If you are talking about something like a GTR that has all sorts of don't-kill-me widgets and all sorts of options for detuning(fancy ecu, turbo induction) it probably wouldn't be that bad to own as a car. Hell, they pretty much just look like a sedan. You just have the option to take it to a track, strap slicks on it, and set it to go fast mode.
Granted, most super cars aren't that well behaved though.
Even if I had shit tons of money I don't think I would ever own a super car unless
A) It came with a "prevent crash" button
or I spent gobs of time and practice with increasingly powerful cars learning how to really drive before getting behind the wheel of some 600 hp monster.
I don't know. If you are talking about something like a GTR that has all sorts of don't-kill-me widgets and all sorts of options for detuning(fancy ecu, turbo induction) it probably wouldn't be that bad to own as a car. Hell, they pretty much just look like a sedan. You just have the option to take it to a track, strap slicks on it, and set it to go fast mode.
Granted, most super cars aren't that well behaved though.
There are a few different categories of supercar though. The GTR falls in with the likes of most Porsche offerings, in that they put quite a lot of effort and care into making sure that the thing is genuinely usable. Then you get the kind of thing that is intended to basically be either a toy, or a status symbol, or both.
If you genuinely want to spend non-trivial amounts of time on the track and you have the cash to burn anyway, I always think it's a better option to get something nice that you can use day-to-day like a big diesel beemer with a towbar and then splurge the rest on something like a Radical SR3 and a a trailer.
EDIT: turns out Radical do an SR3 you can strap number plates to and drive on the road (at least, here you can) not sure you'd want to, though.
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L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
If I owned an F40 I'd just stand there and look at it all day. I love that car so much.
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If I ever buy a supercar, before I take delivery I will take a racing driving course and a stunt driving course (The second would be just because I could).
I would love to own an Aventador, but after watching all the headaches Clarkson had driving it around town because of it's width, I'd perhaps go with a Gallardo Superleggera.
If I had two, it's a toss up between the new McLaren MP4-12C convertible and the Aston Martin V12 Vantage.
While we are talking about fantasyland, here is what I think I would work through for my option "B" to get myself ready to handle a supercar.
For front engine/rear wheel drive:
rx-8 -> 370z -> Corvette (base model) -> Ferrari 599 GTB
For mid engine/rear wheel drive:
Porsche Boxster -> Porsche Carrera (base model) -> something I can't think of in the 400-500 hp range -> Carrera GT or Ferrari Enzo
No, I am not really communist. Yes, it is weird that I use this name.
Wow, that's a lot of cars, and I'm amazed how many of them are black/grey/silver/white. You never really notice how many people have a black, grey, silver, or white car until there are 15,000 of them lined up together.
I'd be super tempted to buy an Aston Martin but I don't know if I could do it since they're so expensive and I'd spend so much time worrying about anything happening to it.
They are actually pretty darn reliable if you keep up with general service. Its the little stuff like door handles and cam seals that add up fast when buying a used one so do a PPI. That and the clutch runs about 7K with labor and they go quick ~30k miles on the F1 and about 50K on the manual.
If we are going nuts I would love another RR from the early 20's. Or a 30's boat tail speedster. I have hyper fast cars, I want something elegant.
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Apparently Lamborghini made 1 of them for someone specific. Talk about a rare car. :P
The little boy who loved the Countach growing up.
The teenager who loved the Diablo.
And now the adult that would like nothing more than to feel the terror of 216 mph in an open cockpit.
I'd never want to actually drive that car, but I enjoy that Lamborghini continues to be on the fucking completely insane end of car design. Shine on you crazy diamonds.
I really enjoy that fascia though. It's just absurd enough to loop back around to awesome.
So many things wrong with it, biggest of which was the fact it had no AC since 2008. In Florida.
This is my new car:
2010 VW GTI with about 21k miles. So nice to drive, and having again AC is so awesome.
Yay Mk6 buddy! Congratulations! White 2dr is the bestest. Does it have the 6MT or the DSG?
plus it has paddle shifters and its pretty fun to zoom around in the low gears
Ah well, nobody's perfect.
It makes me sad that these sorts of impressions are still prevalent. I can say with total certainty, Diagnosing VW/Audi is easier than MOST domestic cars, I haven't dealt with the Ford Focus ST. Problems are about as common as any other car. While I like Ford (Mazda), and have no issues with the Focus, I think it would be better to test drive each, and get some feedback from people who actually own the cars. It's hard to find an unhappy GTI owner.
Anecdotal evidence: Look at Ford Focus and the air filter crap they did for California Emissions. (Cough) $600 (Cough). '04 -'11 i think.
Wicked: I test drove both a few times, loved them both. Wanted to buy during the end of year sales so I didn't have time to ask many owners. Solid advice though!
If it turns out to be a lemon i'll def post here.
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So VW/Audi is easier to diagnose but are the problems for those cars more prevalent or less? I should have specified that my two coworkers who had VW problems have had at least two electrical problems each in the past 4-5 years. I can't say I've heard of common electrical problems within my circle of friends and coworkers who own Subarus. On the other hand I've heard of some problems with head gasket issues on some pre-2005 Subarus. (I had that problem on my 2.5rs but Subaru fixed it for free even after my car was out of warranty. So bonus points for them.)
As I said, I have no real statistical basis for my opinions on these things, but I would be interested if someone else happened to have some stats on repair frequency of various car brands.
I remember I was on a business trip and one of the guys I was with was ragging on a focus he'd rented before and pretty much all his issues seemed like they could be attributed to an awful automatic transmission. Very glad I dodged that bullet although the lack of an interior trunk release is completely baffling to me.
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I thought those were federally mandated? Or at least required in California.
An in-trunk release, yes. You don't have to have a release in the cabin.
:shock: I thought he meant the in trunk release.
Lambo always just seemed like ugly Ferrari's to me, but this is how it should be.
I fully expect it to shoot lazers.
Unless I'm planning my escape from kidnappers, that's not the first one I think of. :P
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My favorite super car manufacturer is Aston Martin though, even though they really make Super Touring cars and not traditional super cars.
A) It came with a "prevent crash" button
or
I spent gobs of time and practice with increasingly powerful cars learning how to really drive before getting behind the wheel of some 600 hp monster.
Yeah, this was the 08 and I think early 09 models, presumably before that too.
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I don't know. If you are talking about something like a GTR that has all sorts of don't-kill-me widgets and all sorts of options for detuning(fancy ecu, turbo induction) it probably wouldn't be that bad to own as a car. Hell, they pretty much just look like a sedan. You just have the option to take it to a track, strap slicks on it, and set it to go fast mode.
Granted, most super cars aren't that well behaved though.
There are a few different categories of supercar though. The GTR falls in with the likes of most Porsche offerings, in that they put quite a lot of effort and care into making sure that the thing is genuinely usable. Then you get the kind of thing that is intended to basically be either a toy, or a status symbol, or both.
If you genuinely want to spend non-trivial amounts of time on the track and you have the cash to burn anyway, I always think it's a better option to get something nice that you can use day-to-day like a big diesel beemer with a towbar and then splurge the rest on something like a Radical SR3 and a a trailer.
EDIT: turns out Radical do an SR3 you can strap number plates to and drive on the road (at least, here you can) not sure you'd want to, though.
If I owned an F40 I'd just stand there and look at it all day. I love that car so much.
I would love to own an Aventador, but after watching all the headaches Clarkson had driving it around town because of it's width, I'd perhaps go with a Gallardo Superleggera.
If I had two, it's a toss up between the new McLaren MP4-12C convertible and the Aston Martin V12 Vantage.
For front engine/rear wheel drive:
rx-8 -> 370z -> Corvette (base model) -> Ferrari 599 GTB
For mid engine/rear wheel drive:
Porsche Boxster -> Porsche Carrera (base model) -> something I can't think of in the 400-500 hp range -> Carrera GT or Ferrari Enzo
You could at least pay someone to weld a full cage in the Vantage before you go slamming it into objects.
"He died as he lived. Screaming in terror fueled ecstasy."
Run off areas exist for a reason.
This is exactly what would happen to me should I get a supercar.
My car would be honorably displayed on wreckedexotics.com
autoblog.com/2012/09/28/espera-sbarro-eight-concept-paris-2012/
They are actually pretty darn reliable if you keep up with general service. Its the little stuff like door handles and cam seals that add up fast when buying a used one so do a PPI. That and the clutch runs about 7K with labor and they go quick ~30k miles on the F1 and about 50K on the manual.
If we are going nuts I would love another RR from the early 20's. Or a 30's boat tail speedster. I have hyper fast cars, I want something elegant.