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  • AnteCantelopeAnteCantelope Registered User regular
    Well, I used autohotkey to hit 1 1 1 1 1 2 3, once every one second, to idle by the fastest-respawning Jinn I know of: The one near the pyramid in CotSG. Of course, he'll get you with his knockdown attack, so I slotted Contortionist and had to wedge myself up against the totem he spawns next to, so that I didn't get knocked out of range.

    I've only used this to get the achievements for Revenants and Jinn, because fuck those guys and their shitty respawn rates. The Jinn achievement takes 2-3 weeks of grinding, and that's assuming you're there 24/7. Complete bullshit, and I'm happy to cheat a little.

    Spoit, the anima shot spam you're thinking of was from the Golden Event, because fuck those boring golems.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus premium Registered User regular
    Dungeons are the 5-man missions, right?

    Uh... anyone want to try out the first one with me? In Kingsmouth?

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    You can bug me to help with a dungeon; nick is Alegis in game (going to bed now).
    the looking for group tool works alright to find people for dungeons in normal and elite mode

    Finished the investigation mission from Dr. Vargas (Besieged Farmlands) earlier, that one was absolutely great. Love these investigation missions; I think I missed a couple in blue mountains -- might go back for them at some point.

    Alegis on
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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    Next phase of The Cleansing Protocol is up.

    Action sequence like the one two phases ago- go into portal, fight baddies. Except this one is tuned for groups, and exists in a normal and "Nightmare" mode. Apparently NM mode is very hard.

    Cooldown of 30 minutes, but the two versions do not share it. So you could run both one after the other. Normal nets you 2 fragments, NM 3. There's two new lore pieces as well, both inside the instances. (Confirmed that you can get both in the normal mode.)

    Guys wanna take this on tonight?

  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    NM mode is stupid easy. I think if one really wanted to, they could even solo it.

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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    NM mode is stupid easy. I think if one really wanted to, they could even solo it.

    Funny, I heard the opposite. :)

  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    Finally completed Slaughterhouse, now I've done all elites. Have to say, quite liked it, even though our DPS was quite low in the SH group we eventually made it. The wolf with the scientist sacrifices took us about 7 tries (bugged out at least 3 tries, where a scientist was standing on the wolf and he still decided to eat me). The last try he bugged out again, killing DPS instead of the sacrifice ... but we made it through and I laughed my way out as the other 2 DPS sacrificed themselves as we ran out of scientists. Good times. The two bosses after went down immediately without a hitch

    Have to say, I did not expect combat or the dungeons in TSW to work out so well; I had low expectations. Bought the game for the questing. I'm quite impressed. Going to fight the gatekeeper and then get my hands dirty on Elite until I get tired of it. Glad I picked tanking, as it's quite interesting in tsw. My build has been doing fine, can keep aggro without a trouble and my defense is alright even for first time healers.

  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Alegis wrote: »
    Finally completed Slaughterhouse, now I've done all elites. Have to say, quite liked it, even though our DPS was quite low in the SH group we eventually made it. The wolf with the scientist sacrifices took us about 7 tries (bugged out at least 3 tries, where a scientist was standing on the wolf and he still decided to eat me). The last try he bugged out again, killing DPS instead of the sacrifice ... but we made it through and I laughed my way out as the other 2 DPS sacrificed themselves as we ran out of scientists. Good times. The two bosses after went down immediately without a hitch

    Have to say, I did not expect combat or the dungeons in TSW to work out so well; I had low expectations. Bought the game for the questing. I'm quite impressed. Going to fight the gatekeeper and then get my hands dirty on Elite until I get tired of it. Glad I picked tanking, as it's quite interesting in tsw. My build has been doing fine, can keep aggro without a trouble and my defense is alright even for first time healers.

    What wolf in SH?

    Also, join the channel Noobmares. Very helpful people that will take someone new to NMs on the first 3 dungeons and give advice about the Gatekeeper and such.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    Beated the gatekeeper just now.

    Alright it's not a wolf, it's a .. monster? The experiment. Cybelus or something. Goes into a rage now and then and eats whetever is near him (scientist or player).

    /chat join #noobmares? Will do, thanks for the tip

  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    Cybulski.

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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    Just remember you don't include the "#" sign when joining channels.

  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    made it up to the vanishing of tyler freeborn. neat side story adding some more depth to the story about that fog.

    @Regina Fong when does your cabal run quarry? would they take a filthy scab?

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  • SimpsoniaSimpsonia Registered User regular
    So I was doing some googling and a while back they had a sale on funbux, which is effectively a sale on the issues. If any of you see any coming up with the holiday season, would you mind pming me?

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Feldorn wrote: »
    made it up to the vanishing of tyler freeborn. neat side story adding some more depth to the story about that fog.

    @Regina Fong when does your cabal run quarry? would they take a filthy scab?

    It's totally an ad hoc thing that forms up when one of the people in the cabal who have a farming tank build are online and desiring AP. And yeah, we do pick up stray people all the time.

  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Pfrt. Started NM DW just now, first boss --at least one DPS kept dying from blood boil as I had to pick up the adds (everyone remained stationary when confronted with them so I had to chase around). It also didn't help that adds didn't die fast enough and whenever adds went to the healer the DPS completely ignored them and focused on boss. Tried to talk about the strategy and in case they had any remarks about me but instead got a "this not working out, kick tank".

    This left me quite annoyed. Bit difficult to get started in NM, I've met some really nice people but many seem less helpful.

    Alegis on
  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Alegis wrote: »
    Pfrt. Started NM DW just now, first boss --at least one DPS kept dying from blood boil as I had to pick up the adds (everyone remained stationary when confronted with them so I had to chase around). It also didn't help that adds didn't die fast enough and whenever adds went to the healer the DPS completely ignored them and focused on boss. Tried to talk about the strategy and in case they had any remarks about me but instead got a "this not working out, kick tank".

    This left me quite annoyed. Bit difficult to get started in NM, I've met some really nice people but many seem less helpful.

    Did you find the group through LFG?

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Through noobmares, only one person (the leader) was from the channel though I believe. The first group I had for polaris from noobmares was very helpful.

    Now that I think of it, I grouped with that leader for elites a few days ago so he was starting out just as well. That explains.
    I'm also going to set up a shotgun/AR for ranged I think, to have more options for joining groups and explore NM from a different perspective

    Alegis on
  • Maledict66Maledict66 Registered User regular
    I love tanking, but secret world can be incredibly infuriating in some respects. Unlike other MMOs, the responsibility for cc and interrupts falls on the tank as well as all the tanking stuff. That has two effects:

    I) tanking is stratospherically harder than dps. It is in every game but the gap is wider here. You have to do everything DPS does plus tanking plus interrupts. It's a lot to manage. Tanks tend to have a billion different specs and gear sets, dps basically have 'normal dps' and 'cleanup duty'...

    II) dps have very little to do except their rotation, and so expect the tank to fix everything. Again, this always happens but is more pronounced because they expect the tank to pick up *everything*. They honestly have no comprehension about how fights work or what is required. I got bawled at for apparently not tanking HR5 in the right place - because dps didn't understand she moves...

    It really shows in the difficulty as well. Outside of Ur-Draug and his silly randomness, the only fights that ever go wrong are ones where dps has to do something other than stand still and hit buttons in order. Polaris 5, DW 3 + 5, HR 5 + 6. There is nothing more infuriating that Dps dying on Machine Tyrant and losing to that blasted enrage, because the fight is so much easier for them!

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
  • Maledict66Maledict66 Registered User regular
    Because ultimately tanks don't actually need that many tanking actives. Whilst things like Martial disicpline and other abilities are nice, they aren't needed, so the tank has a lot of spare active slots they can play with.

    Also, because of the way Rising vigour works, you *really* want co-ordination and control over the use of impairs. In a tightly disciplined group you could easily cover it between folks, but it's far easier just for everyone to drop those abilities and rely on the tank completely to pick them up.

  • DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    Actually HR5's movement CAN be controlled, she always moves away from you so you can manuver her to where you want her to be by running around to directly opposite of where you need her to go. This is, however, completely counterintuitive when compared to every other fight tanked in the history of EVER, so it takes a while to figure that out if no one tells you about it.

    DPS, of course, don't tell you about it because they don't know. They never have to worry about positioning her so they never bother to learn how. All they know is that the OTHER tank they had that one time positioned her THUSLY, and demand it be done the same without explaining how its done.

    Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
  • DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    I'm curious why interrupts is a tank thing in the first place.

    Because if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself? :P

    Actually I think its a combination of the fact that tanks have interupts, tanks are the first effected by failure to get an interupt off (insta-death or aggro loss is the usual result), and the DPS can get away with not using them.

    Not to be insulting to all people who play DPS, because I know as well as anyoen that many DPSers are skilled and focused individuals. However, there are many DPS who only focus on doing damage. They just don't focus on other things, like cast bars, which you need to be extremely focused on in order to get the interupts off in time. Since the tanks immediate survival is dependant on watching those cast bas and stopping those abilities, it falls to the tank to save their own life.

    Hell, ever run HR NM and seens DPS die to the reflect shield? I mean, there's a counter right there on MTs showing when his shield is coming up, but people don't watch it. People, other than the tank, that NEED to watch it in order to get him through the wells at the right time. They could stay alive by simply watching the counter and not shooting, but they don't, and blame the tank when they die.

    Hell, if Tanks could run a build using cleanup, they'd probably be responsible for that too :)

    Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Maledict66 wrote: »
    I love tanking, but secret world can be incredibly infuriating in some respects. Unlike other MMOs, the responsibility for cc and interrupts falls on the tank as well as all the tanking stuff. That has two effects:

    I) tanking is stratospherically harder than dps. It is in every game but the gap is wider here. You have to do everything DPS does plus tanking plus interrupts. It's a lot to manage. Tanks tend to have a billion different specs and gear sets, dps basically have 'normal dps' and 'cleanup duty'...

    II) dps have very little to do except their rotation, and so expect the tank to fix everything. Again, this always happens but is more pronounced because they expect the tank to pick up *everything*. They honestly have no comprehension about how fights work or what is required. I got bawled at for apparently not tanking HR5 in the right place - because dps didn't understand she moves...

    It really shows in the difficulty as well. Outside of Ur-Draug and his silly randomness, the only fights that ever go wrong are ones where dps has to do something other than stand still and hit buttons in order. Polaris 5, DW 3 + 5, HR 5 + 6. There is nothing more infuriating that Dps dying on Machine Tyrant and losing to that blasted enrage, because the fight is so much easier for them!

    You must get some really awful groups.

    I honestly haven't found tanking hard at all. At times I find it easier or more relaxing than DPS. I don't have to do much at all.

    Also stuff like HR6 is harder for DPS since they do have to maintain a lot of awareness of whats going on. As a tank on HR6 all I worry about is finding a well and pulling the boss through. Everything else is up to my DPS to not stand in the barrage, to not get cleaved, to not die to the little AoE circles when the boss goes mid, to not shoot the shield if I'm late on a well or if a well suddenly decides it doesn't want to pop up.

    Also SH 2 and 3 pretty much fall entirely on the DPS. Though the group itself has to pull about 6k DPS, if the DPS don't do decently there is no advancing.
    I'm curious why interrupts is a tank thing in the first place.

    The big reason for this is because no matter what a tanks weapons are they have impairs. Most DPS run a combination of shotgun, pistol, and AR (none of those have impairs). They also run elemental (not sure if it has impairs but I don't think so) and blood (cardiac arrest is the only one I can think of). So it isn't really possible for DPS to impair in the first place. Going melee DPS in dungeons which will give you impairs if you run swords, hammer, or fists is hard even when you know all the fights in and out, it isn't really a viable option.

    Also, I'd like to mention that DPS need to run impairs in HF.
    Decomposey wrote: »
    I'm curious why interrupts is a tank thing in the first place.

    Because if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself? :P

    Actually I think its a combination of the fact that tanks have interupts, tanks are the first effected by failure to get an interupt off (insta-death or aggro loss is the usual result), and the DPS can get away with not using them.

    Not to be insulting to all people who play DPS, because I know as well as anyoen that many DPSers are skilled and focused individuals. However, there are many DPS who only focus on doing damage. They just don't focus on other things, like cast bars, which you need to be extremely focused on in order to get the interupts off in time. Since the tanks immediate survival is dependant on watching those cast bas and stopping those abilities, it falls to the tank to save their own life.

    Hell, ever run HR NM and seens DPS die to the reflect shield? I mean, there's a counter right there on MTs showing when his shield is coming up, but people don't watch it. People, other than the tank, that NEED to watch it in order to get him through the wells at the right time. They could stay alive by simply watching the counter and not shooting, but they don't, and blame the tank when they die.

    Hell, if Tanks could run a build using cleanup, they'd probably be responsible for that too :)

    Shotgun/Hammer is a strong tank build and allows the tank to use Cleanup if the DPS happen to be short on it. I've done it and I've had other tanks do it.

    I once had a group where the healer and myself were the only ones with Cleanup. It is very hard to run HR6 with a Leech Healer who has to worry about the shield, worry about keeping the tank up and worry about popping CU. Also just hard to do HR6 with 2 CU. The healer did amazing but we didn't end up completing the fight in the end.

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  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Stragint wrote: »
    Everything else is up to my DPS to not stand in the barrage, to not get cleaved, to not die to the little AoE circles when the boss goes mid, to not shoot the shield if I'm late on a well or if a well suddenly decides it doesn't want to pop up.
    Cleave is boss positioning. That is entirely on you as the tank to not cleave them. If one of the DPS dies early on, you as the tank also have to deal with the barrage circles.
    Stragint wrote: »
    Also SH 2 and 3 pretty much fall entirely on the DPS. Though the group itself has to pull about 6k DPS, if the DPS don't do decently there is no advancing.
    SH 2... it can be done with bad DPS, but it's just really not worth trying. SH 3 is perfectly doable with low DPS. The tesla coils deal most of their damage in the form of unshielded current, which is blocked entirely by blood barriers. The healer is more than capable of protecting the whole team while they transition back to the left side. Did it just fine with a group that could only pull about 3k DPS.
    Stragint wrote: »
    The big reason for this is because no matter what a tanks weapons are they have impairs. Most DPS run a combination of shotgun, pistol, and AR (none of those have impairs).
    To be fair, you can run Pistol/Chaos and get a build that is almost exactly the same as pistol/shotgun. Pulling the Strings is basically Out for a Kill. All you really lose out on is Breaching Shot.
    Decomposey wrote: »
    I'm curious why interrupts is a tank thing in the first place.
    Because if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself? :P
    This is basically why I always run Cleanup during the Machine Tyrant no matter what I'm doing.
    Decomposey wrote: »
    Not to be insulting to all people who play DPS, because I know as well as anyoen that many DPSers are skilled and focused individuals. However, there are many DPS who only focus on doing damage. They just don't focus on other things, like cast bars, which you need to be extremely focused on in order to get the interupts off in time. Since the tanks immediate survival is dependant on watching those cast bas and stopping those abilities, it falls to the tank to save their own life.
    I am very confident that I'm a better DPS because I started out tanking. I have a much better idea of what is going on in the fights, what the tank is going to impair, how the tank is going to move.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    Everything else is up to my DPS to not stand in the barrage, to not get cleaved, to not die to the little AoE circles when the boss goes mid, to not shoot the shield if I'm late on a well or if a well suddenly decides it doesn't want to pop up.
    Cleave is boss positioning. That is entirely on you as the tank to not cleave them. If one of the DPS dies early on, you as the tank also have to deal with the barrage circles.
    Stragint wrote: »
    Also SH 2 and 3 pretty much fall entirely on the DPS. Though the group itself has to pull about 6k DPS, if the DPS don't do decently there is no advancing.
    SH 2... it can be done with bad DPS, but it's just really not worth trying. SH 3 is perfectly doable with low DPS. The tesla coils deal most of their damage in the form of unshielded current, which is blocked entirely by blood barriers. The healer is more than capable of protecting the whole team while they transition back to the left side. Did it just fine with a group that could only pull about 3k DPS.
    Stragint wrote: »
    The big reason for this is because no matter what a tanks weapons are they have impairs. Most DPS run a combination of shotgun, pistol, and AR (none of those have impairs).
    To be fair, you can run Pistol/Chaos and get a build that is almost exactly the same as pistol/shotgun. Pulling the Strings is basically Out for a Kill. All you really lose out on is Breaching Shot.

    If a DPS dies to a cleave it is definitely not the tanks fault. The only time I see DPS die to a cleave is when the tank is moving MT to a well so if a DPS is positioned badly that is on them. Though I've also seen DPS die in the well which is possibly the dumbest way to die on the MT fight.

    Pistol/Chaos might become a thing when issue 8 hits since they are nerfing DA and BS. But Blood/Ele is also a really popular build and DPS still don't impair. I've had tanks get furious at DPS who impair.

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  • kafzielkafziel Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    Everything else is up to my DPS to not stand in the barrage, to not get cleaved, to not die to the little AoE circles when the boss goes mid, to not shoot the shield if I'm late on a well or if a well suddenly decides it doesn't want to pop up.
    Cleave is boss positioning. That is entirely on you as the tank to not cleave them. If one of the DPS dies early on, you as the tank also have to deal with the barrage circles.
    Stragint wrote: »
    Also SH 2 and 3 pretty much fall entirely on the DPS. Though the group itself has to pull about 6k DPS, if the DPS don't do decently there is no advancing.
    SH 2... it can be done with bad DPS, but it's just really not worth trying. SH 3 is perfectly doable with low DPS. The tesla coils deal most of their damage in the form of unshielded current, which is blocked entirely by blood barriers. The healer is more than capable of protecting the whole team while they transition back to the left side. Did it just fine with a group that could only pull about 3k DPS.
    Stragint wrote: »
    The big reason for this is because no matter what a tanks weapons are they have impairs. Most DPS run a combination of shotgun, pistol, and AR (none of those have impairs).
    To be fair, you can run Pistol/Chaos and get a build that is almost exactly the same as pistol/shotgun. Pulling the Strings is basically Out for a Kill. All you really lose out on is Breaching Shot.

    If a DPS dies to a cleave it is definitely not the tanks fault. The only time I see DPS die to a cleave is when the tank is moving MT to a well so if a DPS is positioned badly that is on them. Though I've also seen DPS die in the well which is possibly the dumbest way to die on the MT fight.

    Pistol/Chaos might become a thing when issue 8 hits since they are nerfing DA and BS. But Blood/Ele is also a really popular build and DPS still don't impair. I've had tanks get furious at DPS who impair.

    It's like ... okay. You've done Machine Tyrant, and you know about the timing of Cleanups and the need to have a set rotation of who does it when and everything, right? Expecting the three DPSes to Impair means that they need to have the same sort of rotation for damn near about every boss, where any accidental doubling means a wipe, and you have to drop important DPS actives to do it. It's simply easier for the tank to handle the Impairs, since there's never more than one tank can handle.

  • Maledict66Maledict66 Registered User regular
    Decomposey wrote: »
    Actually HR5's movement CAN be controlled, she always moves away from you so you can manuver her to where you want her to be by running around to directly opposite of where you need her to go. This is, however, completely counterintuitive when compared to every other fight tanked in the history of EVER, so it takes a while to figure that out if no one tells you about it.

    DPS, of course, don't tell you about it because they don't know. They never have to worry about positioning her so they never bother to learn how. All they know is that the OTHER tank they had that one time positioned her THUSLY, and demand it be done the same without explaining how its done.

    I do know this... :)

    It's just that even running away from her she *will* sometimes not run after you immediately, but turn and macro shock someone else, or be in the mid cast and finish that before moving. That plus her "run away from you" AI makes it trickier than on other fights, and not something you can do instantly which is what people seemed to expect.

  • Maledict66Maledict66 Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    You must get some really awful groups.

    I honestly haven't found tanking hard at all. At times I find it easier or more relaxing than DPS. I don't have to do much at all.

    Some groups are great, some are terrible. Its the joy of pick up groups... :)

    But when it comes to difficulty, I can only think of 2 fights off the top of my head where the dps has a harder job than the tank. Polaris 5 and the NYR - bearing in mind I haven't done Ankh, Facility, Hell Fallen or Slaughterhouse. Machine Tyrant is far trickier for the tank than for dps because you have to avoid the red circles, you have to avoid the orange circles, you also need to watch a timer for anima depletion, you also need to avoid demolish, and you have to position yourself for the end of the middle barrage phase fast. (Which to be fair is fun with rocket jump wheeeeee!)

    And on MT I've found the only time dps *ever* live with an early shield or well not appearing is if I shout it in party chat. And these aren't bad players - some of them are very good. They just don't look at fights in the same way.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Maledict66 wrote: »
    Because ultimately tanks don't actually need that many tanking actives. Whilst things like Martial disicpline and other abilities are nice, they aren't needed, so the tank has a lot of spare active slots they can play with.

    Also, because of the way Rising vigour works, you *really* want co-ordination and control over the use of impairs. In a tightly disciplined group you could easily cover it between folks, but it's far easier just for everyone to drop those abilities and rely on the tank completely to pick them up.

    Also, because the weapons with interrupts are the same ones with the tanking skills. And there are only a handful of ranged interrupts (the whip, the chaos one that's like the whip, a couple dash ones)

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Maledict66 wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    You must get some really awful groups.

    I honestly haven't found tanking hard at all. At times I find it easier or more relaxing than DPS. I don't have to do much at all.

    Some groups are great, some are terrible. Its the joy of pick up groups... :)

    But when it comes to difficulty, I can only think of 2 fights off the top of my head where the dps has a harder job than the tank. Polaris 5 and the NYR - bearing in mind I haven't done Ankh, Facility, Hell Fallen or Slaughterhouse. Machine Tyrant is far trickier for the tank than for dps because you have to avoid the red circles, you have to avoid the orange circles, you also need to watch a timer for anima depletion, you also need to avoid demolish, and you have to position yourself for the end of the middle barrage phase fast. (Which to be fair is fun with rocket jump wheeeeee!)

    And on MT I've found the only time dps *ever* live with an early shield or well not appearing is if I shout it in party chat. And these aren't bad players - some of them are very good. They just don't look at fights in the same way.

    The groups I get through noobmares are always pretty good. Even the people who are actual noobs to nightmares do really well with some direction.

    I don't know, I really feel like MT is way easy as a tank. Demolishes are easy to dodge, I only have to worry about barrage if someone else dies, the orange circles aren't even something I care about. Also, following the anima depletion counter is pretty pointless with the stuff switching around so often. Eths buff bars make it real easy though. Also I don't need to impair anything for MT so I get to use stupid stuff that I wouldn't normally use.

    When I DPS MT (I spent a majority of my time DPSing) I feel a little more stressed.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus premium Registered User regular
    So after trying for a while with my own combination of AR/Fist focusing on healing myself up as well as damaging enemies, I dropped a bunch of extra points I was saving up to try out the Trickster deck. Turns out full-on damage-dealing makes them die faster so I don't have to worry about healing myself.

    There are some more complicated decks I want to try out, but of course they require ludicrous amounts of AP to get into. I really want to play around with the AR more but it doesn't seem anywhere near an optimal idea until I get these higher-level abilities unlocked, since I'm doing solo play unless I can finagle one of you god-like vets into steamrolling a mission for me. ;-)

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    And yeah, what? NY raid is one of the bosses that demands the most out of the tank. You need to match your output carefully to the other tank, and keep track of an additional set of counters. Whereas the DPS only has to watch the fists and occasionally turn to deal with adds or the pod

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Yea, all I do in NYR is make sure I don't get fisted, kill the pod on the podder and make sure I don't filth the red circle. Really not much else for me to do during the fight.

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  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    I'm gonna be honest... the raid is easy no matter what role you're playing.

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  • Maledict66Maledict66 Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    And yeah, what? NY raid is one of the bosses that demands the most out of the tank. You need to match your output carefully to the other tank, and keep track of an additional set of counters. Whereas the DPS only has to watch the fists and occasionally turn to deal with adds or the pod

    You don't need to be matching threat. You can use provoke & confuse (or mass confuse) to control the swaps totally reliably. Or you can use mass provoke and art of war and do a more main tank, off tank role. Entire fight was just hitting an ability on time and dodging the AE. At least dps have to burn pods and drop the filth piles somewhere rational.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    The DPS should all be on the grate anyway, so the only one getting the filth should be the podder

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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    Seeing this discussion is so disheartening.

    I'm sitting here thinking of what to post, but I realize it doesn't matter. Everyone plays differently, everyone has their ideas of how things should go. But I also think that taking a few personal experiences and applying them to everyone in general is faulty and bad.

  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    On the internet, everyone else is wrong.

    I'm playing around with a chaos/blood deck right now. Decent, mostly blood for EC. Dropping liquidation and amor fati is kinda fun though.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, maki, have you had any luck actually finding a raid with your hours yet?

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  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    Woo. 5 minute raid. It was either 4:19 or 4:47. I couldn't get ACT to give me 4:47, it was either 4:19 or 5:22 from mine.

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