[Monster Hunter] Hunters, start your barbecues... 3U IS OUT!!!

mere_immortal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v_fQKT7MyI

What is Monster Hunter?



See that guy on the left? That's you! See those kinda scary looking monsters? Those are your prey, doesn't seem too bad!



Oh.

Monster Hunter is a series about hunting little things, making weapons and armour from the bits of the little things then eventually using those weapons and armour to hunt bigger things. Repeat until the next game in the series comes out.



Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate is an updated and uprezzed version of Monster Hunter Tri that was originally released for the Wii. It's due for release on the 22nd March 2013 for both the Wii U and 3DS. Online play is available on the Wii U and to a limited extent on the 3DS, as long as you play through a lan adapted Wii U. (protip: buy a Wii U and play with PA dudes). Data transfer between the Wii U and 3DS is included, so you can do some hunting on your lunch break and come back home to show your buddies your new sword.

Capcom are pretty cool dudes so are patching a bunch of features into the game after release. These are cross region play, Wii U gamepad voice chat, USB keyboard support and off screen play.

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Game Info and Useful Stuff

3U G-Rank Armour Sets

Armour Calculator/Database

Monster Hunter Wiki

Armour Skills

Weapons and Weapon Trees

Charm Table Tool

Monster Weakness Guide

Dracil's Awesome Monster Cheat Sheet

Weapon Trees

PA Hunter Roster

Hey you! Go and fill in this Google docs thing with your details to be one of the cool kids!

I'll sort the list by region until the game is patched with cross region play, but you can also view the list here.

US
Forum Name - Nintendo ID

Elderlycrawfish - Elderlycrawfish
ashdrake - ashdrake
UncleSporky - unclesporky
MonkeyConQueso - MonkeyConQueso
Delphinidaes - delphinidaes
Mystic Terrapin - Ghostosaurus
Brainiac 8 - Brainiac_8
corin7 - corin7
Dr. Phibbs McAthey - DrPhibbs
Rubycat - Rubycat
MordaRazgrom - MordaRazgrom
LeTwig - LeTwig
Mugaaz - Mugaaz
Norumu - Norumu
Iceman2343 - Iceman2343
Spectrum - HopelessDreamer
IncognitoEsq - IncognitoEsq
skeldare - skeldare
Badwrong - badwrong
Malakaius - Malakaius
StompingBadger85 - StompingBadger
Beltaine - Beltaine
Professor Snugglesworth - pols.voice
adventfalls - adventfalls
vagrant_winds - VagrantWinds
Destroyah87 - Destroyah87
fRAWRst - fRAWRst
angrysquirrel - angrysquirrel
Chorazin - Chorazin
Taliosfalcon - talios
jwashke - mrjoshuagiraffe
Manetherenwolf - manetherenwolf
king_sleep - King_sleep
Boosterburn - boosterburn
POKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMAN - spinach
redringer3 - Redringer3
imperialparadox - imperialparadox
jothki - jothki
Macho - TheMachoGamer
Bruan - jooncole
Dracil - dracilcegon
Zanshinretsu - Zanshinretsu
Bluecyan - RoninKnight
Cantido - H.R. Paperstacks
Athenor - Athenor
Sake - EskimoHawk
CorporateLogo - CorpLogo

EU
Forum Name - Nintendo ID

mere_immortal - mere_immortal
John Zoidberg - PAJZ83
RavenWinters - SkyKnight87
Jam Warrior - JamWarrior
WotanAnubis - Wotan-Anubis
Adda - AddaUK
Achire - Achire
Kisidan - Tee Kay
Klyka - Klyka1
Sicho - Sicho84

mere_immortal

Charm Table Fixing

Charm Tables
For some reason when you begin a character in 3U you are locked into a specific charm table that the game pulls the charms you can get from. You've no real choice in what you get unless you use the following method. To have a look at all the charm tables go here, but basically you don't want 11, 12, 15, 16 or 17.

To aim for a specific table make sure your Wii U/3DS is not connected to the internet so it doesn't automatically update. Once you're ready to start a new set your system clock to a few minutes before one of the following times based on which table you want, then set a stopwatch going. Boot up the game and once the stopwatch has counted the remaining time of the table you are looking for press New Game. For instance if you wanted table 1, set your system clock to 00:12:11 and as you press OK start a stopwatch. Boot up the game and once the stopwatch has reached 2m press New Game. You have about a 3 second window for each table so make sure to be precise. Here is a list of the tables and timings with a brief description for each table:

Normal Tables
T1 00:14:11~13 - Contains a nice balance of Blademaster and Gunner charms with high stats/many slots, but lacks good Awakening charms and doesn't excel at any one thing
T2 02:14:39~42 - Feels like an inferior version of T1. Lacks any amazing charms unique to this table, not much to talk about
T3 00:11:28~30 - All-purpose table. Especially rich in good evasion charms, but has the possibility for many skill setups with a Handicraft +4 OOO charm (with Sharpener -3).
T4 00:05:47~49 - Good for Blademasters. Has the most charms suited for Lancers, but also contains a Handicraft +4 OOO charm and is good for other Blademasters as well
T5 00:56:43~45 - Good Evasion Distance and Earplug charms, great for Switch Axe and Heavy Bowgun users. Most of the good charms are Dragon Talismans though, so grinding for them may be a chore
T6 00:42:17~20 - Leaning towards Blademasters. Has both Handicraft +5 OO and Handicraft +4 OOO. Contains great charms for Evasion and Awakening with other useful skills
T7 01:43:58~01 - Most plentiful in Evasion charms. If you want Evasion +2 regardless of your weapon, this table has good unique charms
T8 09:25:48~51 - Above average Evasion and Guard type charms, but slightly lacking in other areas. Its Dragon Talismans tend to be good
T9 07:09:58~01 - Somewhat geared towards Gunners. Has plenty of charms with a gunner skill combined with Attack +10 or Expert +10. Does have excellent charms for Blademasters but its Handicraft charms are the worst of all tables
T10 00:14:43~45 - Extremely good charms that combine Handicraft with another skill, such as Handicraft +5 Free Element +7. Is also plentiful in Edgemaster charms and probably gives the highest possible power with pretty much any Blademaster weapon. It does seem to be somewhat lacking in Good Evasion distance charms
T13 00:07:46~48 - No unique godly charm, but does have a wide variety of good charms in most areas
T14 00:17:02~05 - Slightly geared towards Blademasters. Many great charms such as Sharpness +4 Free Element +7 and Handicraft +4 Expert +10. Rapid Fire +5 Expert +10 is great for Light Gunners as well

Cursed Tables
T11 00:02:43
T12 00:06:41
T15 00:08:09
T16 00:13:22
T17 00:20:03

This has been proven to work but to confirm which table you are on you need to unlock the fishing boats by completing the quest to collect 3x Monster Guts. Send out your boats and once they return go here and enter into the table the exact item and amounts your boats came back with in the order that you see them. You'll get a result that shows which tables have been ruled out and which you may be on. You'll have to do this several times to fully confirm your charm table.

mere_immortal

I'll update the OP over the weekend with more info, just wanted to get a new one up.

If anyone has any updated guides or useful stuff I'll definitely stick em in there.

CrewMember169

Two weeks from release and still no Circle Pad Pro XL? Anyone recommend a seller on Amazon to import one?

Do we even know if the US version of the game will support the Circle Pad Pro?

Elderlycrawfish

I've always loved the monster comparison size picture.

Zanshinretsu

Hello, new thread! So I've been seeing ads for MHU dropping on the 19th of this month and they're saying that it's going to be in the e-store. Did anyone ever hear a confirmation from Capcom that it will be up on launch day or is that still unconfirmed? I'm not getting a physical copy so if I have to wait a week for it to pop up on the store I will be bothered.

Seidkona

CrewMember169 wrote: »

Two weeks from release and still no Circle Pad Pro XL? Anyone recommend a seller on Amazon to import one?

Do we even know if the US version of the game will support the Circle Pad Pro?

I believe the demo says that the final product will support it. Am I remembering the warning right?

Halos Nach Tariff

The demo just says that it doesn't support the CCP hardware, but as far as I'm aware the full game does.

UncleSporky

The full game does support it.

skeldare

I'm so glad I decided to import the CPP XL for this.

As far as the Wii U version, I'm not sure if I'm going to play this online or not. We'll see.

Seidkona

I thought the warning said that while the demo did no the final product would. It could well have been a fevered dream.

Either way the final game does support it.

Elderlycrawfish

Zanshinretsu wrote: »

Hello, new thread! So I've been seeing ads for MHU dropping on the 19th of this month and they're saying that it's going to be in the e-store. Did anyone ever hear a confirmation from Capcom that it will be up on launch day or is that still unconfirmed? I'm not getting a physical copy so if I have to wait a week for it to pop up on the store I will be bothered.

The official word is launch window with the hope of launch day.

I did just see a post in the Capcom forums that someone saw an eShop banner in the WiiU store that said it would be available at midnight launch day.....I can't check my WiiU right now to confirm though, nor if it applies to the 3DS version as well. If its true though, I am one happy hunter.

carmofin

Okay, so...
I started out with Sword and Shield and started hunting my first bigger monsters. Then I realized I need to pick a weapon because I'm not going to bother with getting the materials twice.
The Internet said I should get a lance, so I got a lance... But now the game plays even more like shit! This is almost unbearable, it's impossible to dodge anything at all, for that you have to put away the weapon, to put away you have to wait 2 seconds, it's just infuriating. 10 hours in I think I've had enough, how you people put 100s of hours into this is beyond me.

Renzo

Lance is all about blocking, and it's a much more difficult weapon to learn and be effective with compared to the Sword and Shield or Longsword.

I don't know who The Internet is, but he sounds like a jerk.

Rubycat

Lance has no roll option while out, its probably the most jarring difference when trying to use it if you've only used everything but the lance.

IceBurner

Is this a joke post? I thought you were a veteran, but suppose I must be misremembering...

First off lance in MH3 is the aggressive tank weapon but it's best for large monsters, and by that I don't mean Great Jaggi, I mean something Barroth-sized and larger. It has great blocking and evasion abilities but the evasion stuff definitely takes practice. As a new lance user, get familiar with blocking, and use a more agile weapon on lower-tier enemies who tend to be extremely mobile.

If someone recommended you lance without going into more detail than "get a lance", then they've done you a disservice. Honestly, Sword and Shield and Hammer are the most mobile and intuitive weapon types.

I don't know if "dodge" is the right mindset to have about evading attacks in MH. You certainly can make sure that you aren't where an monster's attack is, but all the evasion moves have a brief moment of invincibility and much of the time you'll want to take that brief invincibility into account -- not only do you want to use the locomotion that the dodge provides, you want to use your split second of invincibility to cause the monster's attack to pass right through you.

Here's a video that illustrates how that works. Even though it's from the first game in the series, the concept hasn't changed, even if the weapons and monsters are all a bit different now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbXaPhEwAo

Now if you want to stick with using lance, you may want to check out the complete controls list from the previous thread:

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/25984465/#Comment_25984465

As for how to put all that to work, first thing you need to know is that after any quantity of lance thrusts, you can either backhop or side-step to cancel the recovery animation. The second thing you need to know is that instead of evading, you can actually chain the mid or high thrust into the counter-attack, which GUARDS against monster attacks and stabs if an attack is deflected by your guard.

So instead of having to stop attacking, you can actually cancel the recovery animation with the counterattack move instead (they nerfed this in 3U you can no longer chain counters as a 4th attack, so do it as the 3rd attack instead).

Another handy thing to know is the Guard Advance. This lets you dash forward a few steps while blocking against attacks. The neat thing is that you can chain a shield bash move onto the end. The shield bash move does impact damage, which contributes toward tiring the monster (and can KO it if you hit the head). So if you Guard Advance into a monster's attack and it deflects, you can tap again to bash them for damage and to help sap their stamina away.

Lastly, while you cannot chain together multiple shield bashes (or the wide-sweeping lance swat attack), you CAN actually chain those into regular thrusts. This is one of the secrets of very aggressive lancing. Guard advance into an enemy's attack -- blocking it --add the bash, then stab them once or twice more, and then either evade or counter so you're not locked in the wind-down animation after 3 lance attacks.

carmofin

Well since I play the 3DS version I am doomed to play the game alone in all eternity, which is why I need to find a weapon that I can use to play through the game by myself and I read that Sword and Shield is a very bad solo weapon on the long run. If bigger monster get slow and predictable then maybe thats the missing clue, because right now I cant block something that jumps behind me with every second move.

Elderlycrawfish

My advice? Try all of the weapons. Find the one(s) you are comfortable using. You can make anything work as long as you're down with the fundamentals of the weapon.

Then you find armor skills to accentuate how you play or for specific challenges, and you can be good to go.

PikaPuff

If you don't like the lance, don't play the lance. You play for fun and every once in a while look at your mats and think "I have enough to make all these weapons lemme make [my favorite] and I gues I got enough to make this lance too, I'll try it out. Oh it's shit lemme go back to only making [my favorite]."

(Lance was [my favorite] in Tri, but I used lots of weapons.)

Renzo

I've stuck almost exclusively to the Longsword for...3 games? But Sword and Shield should work for the entire game.

And if you're fighting something that mobile, it seems like you're rather early in the game. You're still learning how to play. Stick with SnS for now. It's mobile, it can cut and bash, you can dodge and block, and you can use items without sheathing. It's a pretty freaking awesome weapon.

PikaPuff

I love SnS because you can use items without putting away your weapon.

Bluedude152

I mainly used great sword for my playthroughts. The only time a lance got broken out was Barroth and the Urragaan, if only because I couldn't dodge quick enough

carmofin

Oh yeah I forgot to bitch about that...
Well I figured it works something like, you can pick up ONE "rare orb" every 3 million hours, so you can only upgrade ONE weapon properly, but if I get enough stuff for more then one I'll stop worrying for now and stick to Sword and Shield.

IceBurner

You're nowhere near the point where you should have any worry about finding rare items. Rare items are generally needed to end-game stuff, and they have 2% - 10% appearance rates, so it's not even as bad about that as, say Phantasy Star Online. Just gather and hunt and you'll end up being able to make more gear than you know how to pick from.

I needed anime to post.

I thought the Switch Axe was a great solo weapon. Axe mode lets you hang out with the weapon out with a good amount of mobility and has a great vertical reach (especially with that upswing), and when you get an opening you can swap into Pain Train mode. Tri was my first foray into MH and I really found the Axe most comfortable for getting into the hang of things.

Picked up Freedom Unite and I've been using Greatsword in that so far. I really like the look of Hunting Horn in 3U so I'll pick that up and I want to learn a ranged weapon and the bow looks like the most fun for me. So with those four weapons I should never have any materials ever as I try to build a collection and hate myself.

Renzo

And if you've killed a monster several times and still don't have the one thing you need from him, make sure of a few things: Break what you can (head, claws, etc.), cut off and carve what you can (usually tail), and capture instead of kill (use a trap, throw sleep bombs once the monster is visibly limping/injured). Those three actions will usually yield different rewards than a kill.

carmofin

Also one more thing I can't figure out: How do you access the other areas like the desert, or are those exclusively used in quests? When I leave town I always get to the first one...

I needed anime to post.

Leaving town will mean you only hunt on the island area, you need quests to visit other ones. In order to get resources from them the best option is to go on the quests marked "Harvest Tour", where the only goal is to get resources from the zone. You automatically complete those quests when you put an item from the item box into the deposit box for those.

Elderlycrawfish

Quests. Just leaving town sounds like you're doing Free Hunt, which is only one area. You need to do quests from the village elder, which unlocks the next tier of quests which may take place in other regions.

vagrant_winds

Is there a breakdown of the added weapons that wern't in Tri?

I needed anime to post.

Weapons that were not in Tri:

Dual Swords
Hunting Horn
Gunlance
Bow
Bowguns have been split into Light and Heavy Bowguns rather than building your own.

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH3U:_Weapons

Elderlycrawfish

Dual swords. Gunlance. Hunting horn. Bows.

And bowguns are split into light and heavy now, no mix and match of parts.

IceBurner

Ah, no wonder you're not getting lots of monster materials. Free-hunted monsters get you just what you carve from them. Free Hunts can get you small amounts of monster materials easily and quickly, but what you primarily get are points, plus items for trade, use on the farm, and to turn into cash.

Monsters you hunt on quests not only get you carves, but there's cash a reward, plus an end-of-quest rewards screen that gives you up to 6 rows of additional items: Up to 4 from the mission itself, while the last 2 rows hold the items from breaking the various visibly-woundable body parts, and the extra loot from a capture.

vagrant_winds

I needed a name to post. wrote: »

Weapons that were not in Tri:

Dual Swords
Hunting Horn
Gunlance
Bow
Bowguns have been split into Light and Heavy Bowguns rather than building your own.

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH3U:_Weapons

Lists the tables, but not the type of attacks and feel.

I have to decide what my new primary weapon will be.

Zephiran

I kinda miss that heavy customisation aspect of vanilla Tri bowguns.

Now, of course, there's a case to be made for simplifying the system, but I felt comfortable with it as it was. Probably because I like to nerd out on shit like that.

EDIT:

Also, here's something I've been wondering about for a very long time...

What setup, disregarding food effects, would give you the most beneficial spoils from a quest? For a while I was rolling a low rank mixed set with Capture Expert, that supposedly gave me some extra rewards for capturing monsters. Now, I think that was only one extra reward slot though, so level with me here - wouldn't it be better just to go for the kill and get three carves, instead of the one extra reward? The only exception would be on Capture-specific quests, but if you want to legit farm monster parts, wouldn't the kill quests give you more materials and thus be just better?

vagrant_winds

yeah. I used a custom medium bowgun for a long time myself. It was nice.

carmofin

I have been doing quests, I was just wondering how you get to do the tedious crap like mining or fishing in the new areas, but someone answered that.

Zephiran

What I like to do, when I really need to do some resource gathering for stuff that doesn't originate from monsters, is to go on one of those delivery quests to get a bit of extra rewards for my hard work.

Like, for example, the Volcano in Tri had the Powderstone quest. You get good money from it, and you can still find all of the stuff you might want from the area anyway, so for a long time I used to sign up for that quest when what I actually wanted to do was to farm Rustshards. Now, it was a bit of a hassle to actually finish, but since the Subquest was to deliver just one stone, and you could finish via Subquest, it wasn't too bad.

Elderlycrawfish

Zephiran wrote: »

Also, here's something I've been wondering about for a very long time...

What setup, disregarding food effects, would give you the most beneficial spoils from a quest? For a while I was rolling a low rank mixed set with Capture Expert, that supposedly gave me some extra rewards for capturing monsters. Now, I think that was only one extra reward slot though, so level with me here - wouldn't it be better just to go for the kill and get three carves, instead of the one extra reward? The only exception would be on Capture-specific quests, but if you want to legit farm monster parts, wouldn't the kill quests give you more materials and thus be just better?

I think it's situational. Luck +15 would certainly yield more rewards, but if you're gunning for a particular monster part, you'd be better off with capture or even a carving set. If a tail carve has the highest percentage for getting a ruby or something, I'd take a second chance to carve over more rewards.

Halos Nach Tariff

I thiiiink you can make a mix set using the Guild Bard and some other stuff (Jaggia helm maybe?) to get an extra carve (on both tails and monsters) as well as super luck (to get the bonus possible reward items.)
Defenses are lacklustre and you don't get any combat skills as I recall, but if you're confident in hunting then it's no big deal.

But generally I find it faster just to run through the quest a few times than worry about maximising spoils. I play the game to hunt things anyway, so having to hunt extra things to get what I need is rarely a burden...

carmofin

Okay, went back to kill that bear with SnS and it was a breeze. Been having some fun since then.

I've realized that weapons aren't as much of a problem as is armor! The options are staggering! How do I decide which armor to craft? It seems like a dead end would be much more annoying with armor!