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Rape Charges and Convictions and Stuff
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Find this article representative of how little power and strength of word men have in courts anymore and how unfair said courts and in general the world is to men?
The story makes me want to hide under my bed, never date a girl, never even talk to one ever again. Next thing you know they will accuse you of raping them.
The said thing is if he hadn't been injured they might of never realized the womens claims were false.
The story makes me want to hide under my bed, never date a girl, never even talk to one ever again. Next thing you know they will accuse you of raping them.
The said thing is if he hadn't been injured they might of never realized the womens claims were false.
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Is it a problem? Yeah, sure. Will sexism cure it? I doubt it. These cases aren't so common as you'd like to believe.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9902/12/jeans.rape.01/index.html?eref=sitesearch
THIS IS SPAR-TA!
What the flaming fuck?
Also!
It's the Dai-ly Mail.
Like I do agree removing tight jeans is kinda difficult, espcially when its not your own :winky:
But if the person is being raped, which is usually violent right, I don't think it would matter what kind of pants the girl is wearing if the guy is able to overpower her.
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One of the first questions a rape victim is asked is often "What were you wearing?"
I don't have any cites offhand, but I remember reading this in a newspaper article from 2006 as well as anecdotal evidence.
Police often seem to think women incite rape in some places in Canada and America.
Cat, to be fair (or at least accurate), the accused wasn't in a relationship with the crazy lesbian. She picked him out of a police lineup after someone notified the police that he seemed to match her fabricated description.
edit: Frankly, I think it has as much to do with the fact that he is ugly as the fact that he is male.
Unfortunately, some women are inclined or coerced to abuse their very important legal protections to ruin someone else. Just like rape itself, I don't see false acusations going away any time soon. Also unfortunately, the notions of presumption of innocence will be ignored by powers at be at least from time to time.
fixed that for ya. Seriously, rape cases have the lowest conviction rate on the planet. It is flat out the easiest crime to get away with.
Often there are situations where it's a friend of the victim, or someone the victim feels they can trust where they will take them aside out of a group of friends and then take advantage of their trust or inebriation.
Oh yes, most definitely. Then in the worst cases you have the word of three or four against the word of one..
Its actually the majority of situations. Friend/relative/boyfriend/husband. The last two at least because there's a prevailing belief that being in a relationship implies automatic consent no matter what (D: ), and the first because some people believe that they are 'owed' for being friendly.
Isn't there usually physical evidence for rape, i.e. tears in the vagina, torn clothing, etc
The thing about that is you're not normal. normal people don't hide from the world in response to scare-stories. I mean shit, you're about a hundred times more likely to be hit by a bus than falsely accused of rape, but I bet you're still crossing the street without wrapping yourself in a giant roll of bubblewrap.
teehee, bubblewrap!
Well, outside of there being a rapist present, how else do you explain the rape happening?
Aren't something like 80-90% of rape the 'close friend' type and not the 'stranger in the park with ether' type. Vast majority, not just slightly more prevalent.
GOOD QUESTION, THAT
That's the reason conviction rates are low. Juries and judges can't wrap their heads around the betrayal involved, lawyers take advantage of the relationship to imply that the women didn't object enough/regretted consensual sex later or argue that consent can't be withdrawn once given, or had been implicitly given just by being friends/ in a relationship with the perpetrator.
Anyway my mate a while back fell out with a really close "friend" * of his over a girl. ("friend" had liked girl all his life, girl didn't reciprocate, girl and mate took one look at each other and boom relationship, "friend" kicked my mate out of the house and ever after did fucked up things like unenroll him from uni and try to get him in trouble, even though my mate had asked and got his permissioni to date girl first)
Basically its another one of these trouble things, where the "friend" told some people he knew who were known to be violent that my mate had raped a girl they knew. He then told my mate that these people were out to beat the ever loving shit out of him for revenge. So we were seriously expecting these people to rock up at our house and call out my mate to beat him up, and waited up all night with some old martial arts weapons we'd been trained with at hand waiting for these people to rock up. In the end nothing happened, but wether or not they had decided not to show, or this asshole had just lied to my mate about telling those people, I don't know.
But it was certainly believable that these people might come over after being motivated by these false pretences, all of them were known for violence and at least one of them was a well trained martial artist who it was rumoured had beat the crap out of a group of people who gang raped his girlfriend.
I'm not sure how helpful it is to this conversation, but it did make me think hard when my friend told me I could leave the house and stay somewhere else if I wanted that night, so I wouldn't get in trouble. I stayed, because he was my mate and I didn't believe a word of it. But I would be lying if I didn't say my fear that entire night was tangible, with weapons never a foot away from us at any time and the tension in the room peaking everytime a car came down the tiny out of the way culdesac our house was in.
It was just entirely believable to us that these violent goons we knew would suddenly decide to go vigilante on us on the motivation of a rumoured rape. Even though nothing happened and it was probably a cruel prank, the pyschological echo of that night, the mix of fear, tension, adrenaline, anger and aggression, the sense of injustice that someone could do that to my buddy, its all still clearly memorable.
I feel for this poor dude and am glad that justice was served at last.
What about if you slipped on a bar of soap and fell in the bathtub?
You'd be killed!
There's no dichotomy here. As an experience it has many possible interpretations and while being anti-vigilanteism could be one of them its not the reason I posted it, because its the motivation behind it that I was trying to focus on.
While these still might be rumors, an incident happened early in my junior year to a friend of mine. She was at a party and accepted a beer from some guys at the party. Then, she started acting really strange. Suffice it to say, the beer was drugged. A group of friends stayed with her the whole night and were there when the guys who gave her the beer came looking for her, wanting her to come out and "play" with them. When this was reported to the school, the girl was put on probation for underage drinking. No action was taken regarding the guys who gave her the beer. To be fair to the administration, we couldn't identify them and they may not have been students even though the party took place on a closed campus. All the same, the reaction of the school lended more credence to the rumors regarding the attitude of the school regarding reporting rape or attempted rape.
Out of curiosity, how do the statistical reports go about discerning between cases in which there genuinely was consent revoked after the fact, and when this was just the conclusion reached by dipshit lawyers or justices?
Also, I changed the thread title, because it was uselessly vague. Thread titles should give at least some idea of what the thread is about.