i feel like if your desire to date a transperson stems entirely from how badly you wanna have sex with them because they are a transperson then yeah, that's fuckin sleazy
what if there's no desire to date
what if someone just wants to have sex with a transperson and this is made clear from the get-go
Craigslist or some other sex rendezvous site. But if someone said that to me I would tell them to get lost.
it wasn't a question of solutions
the impression that I'm getting from this thread right now and please, correct me if I'm wrong, is that it is considered Not Okay to actively seek out transfolk to have sex with because they turn you on
and that seems wrong
Why is it wrong to not want people chasing you only for sexual gratification? It's pretty disturbing to me to have someone only want me because I'm trans.
replace "trans" with any other aspect of your body/character
does this scenario still bother you?
My hair color or body shape is not at all analogous to being trans, and I don't know what to tell you if you don't see that.
Anyone that seeks me out for sex because I'm trans is absolutely creepy to me and I would want nothing to do with them.
I think it's probably ok if you're attracted to people whose physical characteristics would generally apply to trans people. It seems less okay if you're attracted to the literal idea of someone being trans. Being attracted to demographics seems way more objectifying than being attracted to characteristics.
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
That's still kinda iffy to me. I wouldn't want someone to date me simply because they find it interesting to date a trans girl. Date me because you find me interesting as a person, and just be ok with the fact I'm trans; not actively seeking me out to date because I am trans.
i don't even know what to tell you if you think that "being trans" is in any way equivalent to "has red hair" or "is tall"
Not for the trans-person.
If this is a response to me I was talking from my perspective.
Also understand that I'm tired and might be spouting nonsense.
I kinda just see it as "you have a physical attribute that is at least somewhat uncommon/unique which is cool but it's not a huge deal".
Unfortunately each time I think I'm clarifying it just comes out terribly.
I'm shutting up and going to bed now. I'm really worried I came off badly and made people mad at me though.
No, you're fine. I already said I got where you were coming from. Shorty seems to be the only one coming at this from a sexual fetishizing view and that it's wrong for me to be upset/disgusted by someone wanting me for sex because I'm a translady.
I'll personally only date someone if they have both Life is Beautiful from the Deadly Premonition OST and The Only Thing I Know For Real from the Revengeance OST on their music device of choice
I'll personally only date someone if they have both Life is Beautiful from the Deadly Premonition OST and The Only Thing I Know For Real from the Revengeance OST on their music device of choice
I'll personally only date someone if they have both Life is Beautiful from the Deadly Premonition OST and The Only Thing I Know For Real from the Revengeance OST on their music device of choice
zay...
Yep
You just about covered Zay's potential partners
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
i don't even know what to tell you if you think that "being trans" is in any way equivalent to "has red hair" or "is tall"
Not for the trans-person.
If this is a response to me I was talking from my perspective.
Also understand that I'm tired and might be spouting nonsense.
I kinda just see it as "you have a physical attribute that is at least somewhat uncommon/unique which is cool but it's not a huge deal".
Unfortunately each time I think I'm clarifying it just comes out terribly.
I'm shutting up and going to bed now. I'm really worried I came off badly and made people mad at me though.
No, you're fine. I already said I got where you were coming from. Shorty seems to be the only one coming at this from a sexual fetishizing view and that it's wrong for me to be upset/disgusted by someone wanting me for sex because I'm a translady.
well, no, not you, personally
the hypothetical I initially suggested was non-specific
I fully understand that you find the idea creepy, as applied to yourself, and I do not think this is at all unreasonable
and I'm happy to let it go with that
it's just, to label a person as creepy because they happen to be turned on by transfolk seems kinda sex-negative to me
I'll personally only date someone if they have both Life is Beautiful from the Deadly Premonition OST and The Only Thing I Know For Real from the Revengeance OST on their music device of choice
zay...
Yep
You just about covered Zay's potential partners
it took me a minute to get this but it owned
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
like what I'm saying is that a sexual or romantic preference will most likely not overrule one being appreciated for ones own self or being treated like a human being
I just can't get my fingers to do word thoughts good
Guys this is not related to transpeople or trans issues
but I thought this was pretty funny:
I am looking for someone to rent the spare bedroom in my spacious 2-bedroom apartment on the picturesque and desirable Upper West Side. You must read carefully, however, as this situation is not suitable for all.
The rent is $1 per month, utilities included, as long as you bake me fifty (50) tasty cookies every day by 6 p.m. If you have not completed this task by 6 p.m., I will pour vinegar on all your belongings, throw them into the street, and have the locks changed. No exceptions and no excuses. Hell or high water, those cookies better be done and yummy.
Cookies are always cookies and never biscuits. I do not eat “biscuits”.
I will decide the specific type of cookie the day before and will submit my preference in writing by 9 p.m. of that day. You are responsible for the recipe and ALL the ingredients (at your expense, of course). The kitchen is large and well equipped with cookie sheets, rolling pins, mixing bowls, etc. You may NOT hum or sing as you prepare the cookies. You may, however, recite song lyrics in a normal speaking voice.
Forbidden ingredients include anise, marjoram, allspice, caraway, and oats. I will nevertheless request oatmeal cookies from time to time and you must find a way to make them without oats. Good luck with that. The worst ingredient of all, though, is NUTMEG. If even one speck of nutmeg, even the tracest amount of the stuff, is discovered in my home, I will pour vinegar on your belongings and chuck them in the street. You may assume the locks will be changed. You may use cinnamon, cloves, and raisins, though I am rather indifferent to these and will likely not be impressed. Chocolate is encouraged, as is vanilla bean extract.
You will be given three cookie cutters: a crescent moon, a star, and a doggie in profile. All cookies must be in one of those three shapes. The doggies must be given names and all the names must be different and cute. Cuteness is my call, not yours. For example, “Smuggins” is cute but “Lionel” is not.
The cookies must be artfully arranged on a lace cloth on a silver platter and garnished. Permissible garnishes include jellied fruits and candied flowers. Sugared figs are under review, but don’t get your hopes up.
Your room contains a twin bed, a dresser, a desk w/chair, and a TV with cable access. The TV is tuned permanently to the Food Network. You may watch only shows featuring cookies and cookie by-products.
If you are interested in this arrangement, please submit the following:
1) Your favorite cookie recipe
2) A picture of tasty cookies
3) A short original poem about cookies
Thank you.
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* it’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
edited April 2013
hi zay how are you I haven't talked to you since tordays
are you still
terrible
edit: I could probably room with that person I bet
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
Manhood Camping Firequest. Lookin' for a 100% for real bros to share/experience manhood in all its glory. This is for real, I don't want to waste my time or yours. 100% JO and manhood, no sugar added. I AM NOT GAY. Don't even think this is a sex thing, it's all about manhood.
Looking for bros to head into the woods and bond by fire, experience life as men once lived it, JO circle, and fire/vision quests.
THIS IS NOT A SEX THING.
Gonna need some basic things/skills, I don't want to be slowed down by fools:
- must be in reasonable shape, if you get winded walking then stay home
- Ed Hardy camping gear, it's really good gear and it's awesome
- desire to be a man among men
- not afraid to wield a blade
- crystal, I'm not sharing mine
- must be able to make a fire
- gloves
- a knowledge of native vegetation (knowledge of psychotropic fungus a plus)
- knowledge of modern music
- protective/splash resistant eye wear
- 5 - 10 of those clip things that rock climbers use
We are gonna need a mobile music device, ipod or something. I'm bringing the music for the firequests and visionquests, Nickleback's The Long Road. I only have it on CD, so I'll have my discman as a last resort, an ipod would be nicer. Just sayin'.
Dont' want to see"
- bad attitudes
- gay/homoerotic behavior, this is a manhood thing. I AM NOT GAY.
- cock rings, can't keep it up w/o help, you aren't gonna make it on this quest
- firearms, there's gonna be enough guns going off and spent shells to pick up
- the nerds/dorks/lames/and anyone less than 100% into manhood.
If you are serious, then I promise you this will be the trip of your life. It will change the way you think. I'm serious, and I AM NOT GAY. To see a group of bros being men, a JO circle by a camp fire. The charge/energy in the air. Crystals get jacked, no lie. You will slip into a different frame of mind, you will feel electric.
Last outing, we had a group that was so charged we attracted bears. It was no deal, nature knew man was in the forest, the crystals gave us the confidence to own those bears. I saw it, I was there.
That's still kinda iffy to me. I wouldn't want someone to date me simply because they find it interesting to date a trans girl. Date me because you find me interesting as a person, and just be ok with the fact I'm trans; not actively seeking me out to date because I am trans.
My biggest problem, and please forgive me if I'm being stupid here, with this is physical attraction is what in many ways defines our relationships with other people. You can't help what you're attracted to, it's just what happens.
Obviously if you're interested in romantic relationships then you want to build a foundation out of way more than anything purely physical, but that relationship has to start somewhere. And in quite a lot of situations it starts with "hey I think that person over there looks pretty good. I'm going to ask them out!"
I don't really see the problem with that. I don't really even see a problem with it never going beyond the physical if both parties have consent. They're probably not going to have a very long-lasting relationship if it doesn't, but who says they even want one or need to have one?
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My hair color or body shape is not at all analogous to being trans, and I don't know what to tell you if you don't see that.
Anyone that seeks me out for sex because I'm trans is absolutely creepy to me and I would want nothing to do with them.
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yeah, see this I totally get
most normal people don't want to just be weird sex objects
I was just getting the impression that like, you wouldn't want to date someone who was interested in you because you were trans
which is way different than just like, soliciting you
Not for the trans-person.
If this is a response to me I was talking from my perspective.
Also understand that I'm tired and might be spouting nonsense.
I kinda just see it as "you have a physical attribute that is at least somewhat uncommon/unique which is cool but it's not a huge deal".
Unfortunately each time I think I'm clarifying it just comes out terribly.
I'm shutting up and going to bed now. I'm really worried I came off badly and made people mad at me though.
Don't sweat it mister, pretty sure no one here thinks ill of you for anything you've said.
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No, you're fine. I already said I got where you were coming from. Shorty seems to be the only one coming at this from a sexual fetishizing view and that it's wrong for me to be upset/disgusted by someone wanting me for sex because I'm a translady.
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..............
Me too!
We were just talking about that.
like, a relationship is basically just piling interests on top of one another
generally shallow first and then the more important ones go on top
like a cake that ends in sad songs
yo lemme get dem digits
You know, I really like the way you formulated this post. You seem like a really interesting, bright, person.
So uh....
Wanna get coffee sometime?
I was just kidding
I'd feel awesome
At least, for a little while
Temporary ego boosts are fun but they're just that
zay...
Yep
You just about covered Zay's potential partners
well, no, not you, personally
the hypothetical I initially suggested was non-specific
I fully understand that you find the idea creepy, as applied to yourself, and I do not think this is at all unreasonable
and I'm happy to let it go with that
it's just, to label a person as creepy because they happen to be turned on by transfolk seems kinda sex-negative to me
it took me a minute to get this but it owned
I just can't get my fingers to do word thoughts good
but I thought this was pretty funny:
are you still
edit: I could probably room with that person I bet
like this person does not believe they exist
what are these things you call "biscuits"
yes BUT only because I work at the theater so movies are free for me
BUT IT'S NOT GAY
I just want to jerk it with a bunch of dudes around a campfire! How is that gay?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/04/25/178788893/yo-said-what
*exaggerated yawn motion as I put my arm around Zay's shoulder*
My biggest problem, and please forgive me if I'm being stupid here, with this is physical attraction is what in many ways defines our relationships with other people. You can't help what you're attracted to, it's just what happens.
Obviously if you're interested in romantic relationships then you want to build a foundation out of way more than anything purely physical, but that relationship has to start somewhere. And in quite a lot of situations it starts with "hey I think that person over there looks pretty good. I'm going to ask them out!"
I don't really see the problem with that. I don't really even see a problem with it never going beyond the physical if both parties have consent. They're probably not going to have a very long-lasting relationship if it doesn't, but who says they even want one or need to have one?
allow me to answer this with the only thing I know for real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=n3QmHNd0HWo
I thought they were like to delay orgasm or something?
Learn something new everyday, I guess.
I've been trying to use "ze" when appropriate
that actually answered the question quite succinctly, thanks dude
man I would have a lifetime supply of charged crystals at this point, I tell you what
I'm pretty sure anything constricting is going to keep it up.
The arterial pressure in is going to be greater than the venous pressure out, so more's gonna go in than out if there is any sort of restriction.
Not that I have researched this or anything.