[Diablo 3] ITT: PC players get Jelly of Console loot drops. (Console talk welcome)

Zek

Grislo wrote: »

forty wrote: »

Grislo wrote: »

Ah_Pook wrote: »

man im swimming in drops. most of them are crap, but still. maybe equip your follower with some magic find gear and put a yellow gem in your helm?

Maybe it's from playing Path of Exile, I sort of just assumed that MF was quality, not quantity.

It's both. Higher MF = more Magic items, more Rare items, more Legendary items.

Edit: Unless you mean quality in terms of how the stats roll on an item.

Quality as in a higher chance that the items drop will be blue rather than white, yellow rather than blue, etc. Not stats, of course.

Quantity as in more items dropped from monsters killed - people were saying this is part of MF, which I didn't think it was.

The overall quantity of items, and the proportion of white items to magic items, are not affected by MF. What MF does is increase the chance that a blue item will instead be a 4/5/6 affix Rare, or a Legendary/Set. So with a high MF you will actually see far fewer blues than before.

Dac

Sweet Lord, though. As much as I like the rest of what I'm seeing, clans/guilds are going to be a huge thing - for me, anyway. I have a couple long-term friends from my WoW guild that play D3. Connecting with them in another guild space and tackling Nephalim challenges together to see how many waves we can get just sounds like incredible fun.

darklite_x

I vote for <Hell's Satans>

Also, I'll start playing again once loot 2.0 is released.

Matz

As long as they are out of bakersfield... Either that or the <Devil's Pals> or the <Christ Punchers>

HexDex

I kinda like Westmarch Hotsteppers a lot. heh.

And yeah, fret not _J_. I will be back for loot 2.0

*Edit - Looks like we are nearing new thread territory, does someone else want to make the new one?

Skull2185

HexDex wrote: »

I kinda like Westmarch Hotsteppers a lot. heh.

I like you.

Anytime PA people set up groups or whatever for games, nobody ever wants to use Hotsteppers. It's like... the best name.

Edit: Also, I'm a console noob. What are Paragon rewards? I noticed in my profile that it said "Reach level 60 to start earning Paragon Rewards."

Magic Pink

Skull2185 wrote: »

HexDex wrote: »

I kinda like Westmarch Hotsteppers a lot. heh.

I like you.

Anytime PA people set up groups or whatever for games, nobody ever wants to use Hotsteppers. It's like... the best name.

Edit: Also, I'm a console noob. What are Paragon rewards? I noticed in my profile that it said "Reach level 60 to start earning Paragon Rewards."

The same thing as the PC version, aren't they?

Skull2185

Never played the PC version :P

Magic Pink

THEN FIX THAT

Paragon levels are bonus stat stuff you keep getting after you hit max level.

Skull2185

Ohhhh. That's cool I guess. I was thinking they were like special lewts or something.

Ceno

All that leaked info. Man. Can't wait.

Beyond Normal

Damn, dem new game modes.

I want them NAOW!

Hiryu02

More newb Barbarian questions.

Does the Cleave Rupture rune explosion also build fury? On that note, I'm unclear on fury generation outside of taking damage or using fury generators. For example, does the damage done by Rend also build fury?

forty

Zek wrote: »

Vagabond wrote: »

Sure, but that doesn't mean that all effects will be useful for max levels. +XP comes to mind.

You mean the most useful max level affix there is?

+20 xp at max level is pretty shitty. %XP is good, but not +static amounts. Unless they made it scale a lot higher on max level gear, anyway.

_J_

HexDex wrote: »

I kinda like Westmarch Hotsteppers a lot. heh.

And yeah, fret not _J_. I will be back for loot 2.0

Sweet.

Played a bit last night. Taking a break helped me refocus on the game, itself, rather than the Auction House. It was fun to follow around a sorc and watch things sploody boom without worrying about the profitability of my drops.

Also bought a crit mempho for cheap. That will be the last thing I purchase until loot 2.0.

forty

Zek wrote: »

Grislo wrote: »

forty wrote: »

Grislo wrote: »

Ah_Pook wrote: »

man im swimming in drops. most of them are crap, but still. maybe equip your follower with some magic find gear and put a yellow gem in your helm?

Maybe it's from playing Path of Exile, I sort of just assumed that MF was quality, not quantity.

It's both. Higher MF = more Magic items, more Rare items, more Legendary items.

Edit: Unless you mean quality in terms of how the stats roll on an item.

Quality as in a higher chance that the items drop will be blue rather than white, yellow rather than blue, etc. Not stats, of course.

Quantity as in more items dropped from monsters killed - people were saying this is part of MF, which I didn't think it was.

The overall quantity of items, and the proportion of white items to magic items, are not affected by MF. What MF does is increase the chance that a blue item will instead be a 4/5/6 affix Rare, or a Legendary/Set. So with a high MF you will actually see far fewer blues than before.

Are you sure about this? I was under the impression that MF also made white items more likely to be magic items.

_J_

forty wrote: »

Zek wrote: »

Grislo wrote: »

forty wrote: »

Grislo wrote: »

Ah_Pook wrote: »

man im swimming in drops. most of them are crap, but still. maybe equip your follower with some magic find gear and put a yellow gem in your helm?

Maybe it's from playing Path of Exile, I sort of just assumed that MF was quality, not quantity.

It's both. Higher MF = more Magic items, more Rare items, more Legendary items.

Edit: Unless you mean quality in terms of how the stats roll on an item.

Quality as in a higher chance that the items drop will be blue rather than white, yellow rather than blue, etc. Not stats, of course.

Quantity as in more items dropped from monsters killed - people were saying this is part of MF, which I didn't think it was.

The overall quantity of items, and the proportion of white items to magic items, are not affected by MF. What MF does is increase the chance that a blue item will instead be a 4/5/6 affix Rare, or a Legendary/Set. So with a high MF you will actually see far fewer blues than before.

Are you sure about this? I was under the impression that MF also made white items more likely to be magic items.

That was my understanding as well. Higher MF results in less white items.

Edit: Thread with math

forty

Hiryu02 wrote: »

More newb Barbarian questions.

Does the Cleave Rupture rune explosion also build fury? On that note, I'm unclear on fury generation outside of taking damage or using fury generators. For example, does the damage done by Rend also build fury?

"No" to both your questions. The 4 primary attacks give you the amount of fury noted when you hit something. Whether you hit one thing with cleave or ten things, you'll still get 5 rage from the swing. Otherwise you just get fury from taking damage, as you noted, or from other various skill sources (Battle Rage: Into the Fray, the fury regen passive, etc.).

Edit: Just remembered a couple other exceptions. If you have a +fury per hit bonus (Weapons Master passive with a mighty weapon; 4 piece IKs, I believe?), that will increase the damage per swing of your fury generators by the amount noted. Not sure if that affects things like Into the Fray.

_J_

HexDex wrote: »

*Edit - Looks like we are nearing new thread territory, does someone else want to make the new one?

I could do for the Diablo 3 thread what I did for the Animal Crossing thread.

FAQs. FAQs as far as the eye can see.

Hiryu02

forty wrote: »

Hiryu02 wrote: »

More newb Barbarian questions.

Does the Cleave Rupture rune explosion also build fury? On that note, I'm unclear on fury generation outside of taking damage or using fury generators. For example, does the damage done by Rend also build fury?

"No" to both your questions. The 4 primary attacks give you the amount of fury noted when you hit something. Whether you hit one thing with cleave or ten things, you'll still get 5 rage from the swing. Otherwise you just get fury from taking damage, as you noted, or from other various skill sources (Battle Rage: Into the Fray, the fury regen passive, etc.).

Edit: Just remembered a couple other exceptions. If you have a +fury per hit bonus (Weapons Master passive with a mighty weapon; 4 piece IKs, I believe?), that will increase the damage per swing of your fury generators by the amount noted. Not sure if that affects things like Into the Fray.

I'm on console, I don't think I have a 4th primary attack, just the 3 fury generators. Thank you very much for clarifying that for me.

forty

Yeah, it's 3, not 4. I wasn't really thinking and just said 4 since that's how many the other 4 classes have.

Laonar

Rolo wrote: »

I feel like console players will eventually burn out on new drops anyway. You'll eventually reach the point where you'll have found five or six mempos, and get your character into that 99th percentile where naturally 99% of what you find, legendary or not, won't be useful to you.

Which is true of all types of loot games.

Big Red Tie

mighty weapon mastery does affect into the fry

HexDex

_J_ wrote: »

HexDex wrote: »

*Edit - Looks like we are nearing new thread territory, does someone else want to make the new one?

I could do for the Diablo 3 thread what I did for the Animal Crossing thread.

FAQs. FAQs as far as the eye can see.

That's a pretty clean looking thread _J_, and looks the the sort of overhaul due an fresh expansion. I vote you do it!

Big Red Tie wrote: »

mighty weapon mastery does affect into the fry

Aqua Diablo Hunger Force.

The Burgerbarian uses powerful cooking oils to generate his favorite resource: frys.

_J_

HexDex wrote: »

_J_ wrote: »

HexDex wrote: »

*Edit - Looks like we are nearing new thread territory, does someone else want to make the new one?

I could do for the Diablo 3 thread what I did for the Animal Crossing thread.

FAQs. FAQs as far as the eye can see.

That's a pretty clean looking thread _J_, and looks the the sort of overhaul due an fresh expansion. I vote you do it!

Keen. I'll make the OP and reserve some spots for different FAQ sections, then we can switch over.

see317

Just broke 1k dps unbuffed on my Wizard starting Act 2 on nightmare.

...I got a long way to go.

Echo

What do you run on witch doctors at 60? Having a hard time deciding on something that works for both aoe and single-target.

Big Red Tie

cloud of blat blat

_J_

New Thread is New

I will add the different FAQ sections over the afternoon / evening.

Chen

I've seen the Crusader's ending and ha, they're already setting the second expansion up.