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God, thats so effing Metal!

KrayzieKrayzie Registered User regular
edited March 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
So, like alot of other people I suppose, I've become a huge fan of the show Metalocalypse. With this love came a love for the music as well. That being so, I'd love to get my hands on some metal to rock out to. But I know nothing of metal, which is why I need you guys. What's good? What's shit? What do I need to listen to? I'd greatly appreciate any suggestions anyone could throw out.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Emperor is pretty much the greatest black metal band of all time and if anyone tells you otherwise they're lying. Bathory is also a good band. Mastodon is a good band too but they're more death metal, although you'd probably really like them if you like what you hear on Metalocalypse. I'm a big fan of Kataklysm, I think Epic: The Poetry of War and Serenity in Fire are both excellent albums, also on the death metal side of things. Ooh, and Satyricon's later, better produced work is very good.

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  • Ziac45Ziac45 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'm a fan of Dimmu Borgir thats kinda the metal they do on there, My friend whos real into death metal likes Death, Dimmu Borgir, Cannibal Corpse, Children of Bodom, Venom, and Mayhem.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Venom were pretty much a joke band but they inspired Norse black metal all the same. That should sort of tell you something.

    Mayhem are meh. Bodom are pretty much a power metal group, way more cheeseball than the other bands listed. Cannibal Corpse are noisy and honestly really not so good. Death is really good, and Dimmu Borgir are pretty good but holy shit are they a bunch of numbfucks.

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  • Ninja BotNinja Bot Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Dragonforce and Rhapsody of Fire are two great bands I recently discovered that are wonderful if you like face melting solos and stories of valiant knights and dark wizards and shit like that.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth are the avant garde of the orchestral death/black metal scene right now, and listening to them pisses of the pretentious music nerds who won't listen to a band with a gold album.

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  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Blind Guardian is an excellent power metal band that doesn't go too over-the-top for me. Imaginations from the Other Side and Nightfall in Middle Earth are my favorites, but most of the albums before those are good too. Their newer stuff is hit and miss for me.

    Slayer was pretty good, although I lost interest in them in the mid-90s. Reign in Blood, South of Heaven, and Seasons in the Abyss are great CDs. Hell Awaits is also supposed to be good, but I sadly do not own it.

    Dark Tranquillity's The Gallery is my favorite CD in my collection.

    In Flames was great, but Clayman was the last album I bought by them.

    I'm sort of out of touch with the music scene these days, unfortunately.

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  • The CheeseThe Cheese Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    mcdermott wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the D&D Metal thread? I imagine that would have been a great place to find some stuff. Granted, I never hung out in there...that shit was scary. ;-)

    http://www.last.fm/group/Penny+Arcade+Metal+Thread/forum/33967

    We moved to last.fm when they shut down megathreads in D&D (and we were the most mega of threads there). I promise we aren't scary.

    Some people might not like it when you say that Cradle of Filth are avant-garde though (do you even know what that means dude [incidentally Metallica and many other bands have platinum records and are still highly regarded{i like brackets}]).

    Anyways...Dethklok are basically a joke melodic death metal band with some little black metal moments and ironic power metal shredding. Try Arsis, Arch Enemy, older In Flames, Insomnium and Dark Tranquillity for melodic death metal, and check out Helloween, Gamma Ray, Running Wild and Stormwarrior for some good power metal.

    Later Emperor is pretty accessible black metal with some lead guitar bits that will satisfy your twiddly Dethklok impulses. Arcturus are neat too and their work is kind of split between atmospheric black metal and some other stuff with clean vocals. I can get back to this later but 24 is on.

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  • SpackleSpackle Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Drudkh? Drudkh.

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  • GiantRoboGiantRobo Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I like some Opeth, Helloween, Kamelot, old school Fear Factory, Megadeth, Dream Theater, Pantera, and sometimes I listen to Apocalyptica. I know there are a bunch I forgot,, I have to check my music collection.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    supabeast wrote: »
    Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth are the avant garde of the orchestral death/black metal scene right now, and listening to them pisses of the pretentious music nerds who won't listen to a band with a gold album.

    Disregard this post.

    Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth are both decent bands overall but anyone who considers them avant-garde has clearly not listened to any Ulver, Arcturus, Blut aus Nord, Alchemist, Dødheimsgard/DHG, Isis/Pelican/etc., or, uh, anything else. All of the above are well worth listening to.

    edit: and yes, I don't listen to bands that actually sell albums, that's why I love Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Slayer, Voivod, Motörhead, King Diamond, Finntroll, Emperor, Mastodon, Blind Guardian, Dark Tranquillity, Venom, Iron Maiden, Amorphis, At The Gates, early In Flames, etc. etc.

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  • denihilistdenihilist Ancient and Mighty Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    Here's a list, and reviews, of some of the best metal bands.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, ANUS is a great site. If you want information on specific bands, www.metal-archives.com is the way to go, so long as you completely ignore every review on the site.

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The importance is to know the distinction between the metals. The are various flavors. There's death-metal, black-metal, Finnish variations of both, Viking-Metal...mainstream...I could go on for days. If you're a novice, I can't emphasize the importance of listening to Slayer's Reign in Blood FIRST. This will be a pivotal moment. From there, listen to Kill Em All era Metallica, see if you dig and take it from there. I'd suggest some Mastodon, and old In Flames for something to ween you into anything significantly harder or blacker.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Burzum.

    Edit: Oh, and Carcass was my gateway into harder music coming from the typical American heavy metal (and still one of my absolute favorite bands). Give either Heartwork or Swan Song a try.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I love Dragonforce, but they're not too far down the "metal" spectrum. Still worth checking out.

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  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Just got into Lordi with the album Arockalypse. Its a band with a deadite theme, so don't expect a lot, but still good I would say.
    I think I have still yet to see W.A.S.P. mentioned on any of these. Listened to their song Chainsaw Charlie all morning and listening to it again now.
    There is also helloween, judas priest, iced earth, Distrurbed (i know they are nu-metal, but their last album was good), hammerfall, motley crue, motorhead, symphony X.

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  • A-RodA-Rod Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Iron Maiden & Judas Priest are a must. They have basically influenced every metal band out there.

    Many different genres depending on what you like it would be easier to suggest what to check out, heres a list of bands all in different genres of metal

    Megadeth
    Blind Guardian
    Black Sabbath
    Arch Enemy
    Cannibal Corpse
    Dream Theater

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    If you're a novice, I can't emphasize the importance of listening to Slayer's Reign in Blood FIRST. This will be a pivotal moment. From there, listen to Kill Em All era Metallica, see if you dig and take it from there.

    Couldn't agree more. Metallica and Slayer are essential listening for any metal fan, though I'd reverse the order that you suggest. Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, then Reign in Blood, South of Heaven, Seasons in the Abyss.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Reign in Blood and Master of Puppets are completely essential.

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  • blincolnblincoln Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I've never been able to get into Slayer. Older Metallica, sure. I guess I've just never heard a Slayer song that I thought had a really strong melody.

    Dimmu Borgir and In Flames have some great albums. I'm also a fan of My Dying Bride (most downtempo and brooding metal band evar), Trivium (who I think have the strongest complete albums overall of modern metal), and God Forbid*. I seem to recall liking some Tiamat too, but it's been awhile since I threw that on.

    Devildriver's "Hold Back the Day" and "I Could Care Less", and some of Unearth's The Oncoming Storm are neat. I can't remember how I feel about the rest of the tracks on those albums.

    YMMV, I'm not a metalhead, I just like some of the music.

    * Edit: mostly for Constitution of Treason so far. I picked up Out of Misery and it was too grindcore for me.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The self titled Godsmack album rocks pretty hard. I would suggest "moon baby."

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Just got back from seeing Chimaira, Dragonforce, and Killswitch Engage live. I highly recommend all of them.

    I dislike suggesting Dragonforce to people looking for actual metal, since it's kind of... not. They are still fun, though.

    Also, Mastodon.

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  • holycrapawalrusholycrapawalrus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Echoing alot of others, but whatever: Wintersun, Dimmu Borgir, Children of Bodom, Emperor are all good ones.

    Depending on where you want to go from there, there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot. I suggest: Ed Gein, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, Me and Him Call It Us, The Black Dahlia Murder and Converge. Feel free to PM me for some more suggestions.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Depending on where you want to go from there, there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot. I suggest: Ed Gein, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, Me and Him Call It Us, The Black Dahlia Murder and Converge. Feel free to PM me for some more suggestions.
    Try again, dude.

    Also, do I get in trouble in H/A if I call Pheezer dumb?

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  • holycrapawalrusholycrapawalrus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Depending on where you want to go from there, there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot. I suggest: Ed Gein, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, Me and Him Call It Us, The Black Dahlia Murder and Converge. Feel free to PM me for some more suggestions.
    Try again, dude.

    Also, do I get in trouble in H/A if I call Pheezer dumb?

    Oh yeah, sorry for having an opinion.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Depending on where you want to go from there, there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot. I suggest: Ed Gein, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, Me and Him Call It Us, The Black Dahlia Murder and Converge. Feel free to PM me for some more suggestions.
    Try again, dude.

    Also, do I get in trouble in H/A if I call Pheezer dumb?

    Oh yeah, sorry for having an opinion.

    None of those are metal bands. This is a thread about metal bands. You fail.

    On top of that, a lot of those bands are really shitty, too.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    You know what band I never see mentioned in these threads that really deserves a mention? Possessed, that's who. One of (if not THE) first death metal band and features fucking larry lalonde? That's a recipe for awesome, right there.

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  • holycrapawalrusholycrapawalrus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    pheezer FD wrote: »
    Depending on where you want to go from there, there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot. I suggest: Ed Gein, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, Me and Him Call It Us, The Black Dahlia Murder and Converge. Feel free to PM me for some more suggestions.
    Try again, dude.

    Also, do I get in trouble in H/A if I call Pheezer dumb?

    Oh yeah, sorry for having an opinion.

    None of those are metal bands. This is a thread about metal bands. You fail.

    On top of that, a lot of those bands are really shitty, too.

    Why don't you read the whole post? Like the part where I said "there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot." Usually, an intelligent person would be able to differentiate "metal" from "metal influenced" but maybe I'm expecting too much.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    pheezer FD wrote: »
    Depending on where you want to go from there, there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot. I suggest: Ed Gein, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, Me and Him Call It Us, The Black Dahlia Murder and Converge. Feel free to PM me for some more suggestions.
    Try again, dude.

    Also, do I get in trouble in H/A if I call Pheezer dumb?

    Oh yeah, sorry for having an opinion.

    None of those are metal bands. This is a thread about metal bands. You fail.

    On top of that, a lot of those bands are really shitty, too.

    Why don't you read the whole post? Like the part where I said "there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot." Usually, an intelligent person would be able to differentiate "metal" from "metal influenced" but maybe I'm expecting too much.

    Okay, great. Except that this is not a thread about metal influenced bands, it's about metal bands. So you're done here now, and if you keep this tangent going any further you're going to pull an infraction for it. H/A isn't a discussion forum, and bringing up tangentially related subjects to the topic at hand isn't helpful.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    And while we're at it, thrash and grind are both metal subgenres but none of the mentioned bands are members of those either

    I mean, GY!BE? They rule but O_o

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Well, I like Dethklok's parody metal a lot, but I still haven't bothered to get into the genres that it's most akin to (black, death) very much. However, if you like the melodic elements you basically need to listen to Blind Guardian. There really is no better epic/melodic metal band (and their older stuff is plenty thrashy). I've been hopelessly hooked on the genre since I first heard "Nightfall in Middle Earth" and I haven't found anything that compares in skill and maturity of songwriting. Their albums are so different that you should listen to a wide sampling before deciding you don't like them.

    Dragonforce is a lot of fun but way overrated. They basically have one song.

    I'm not totally sure why Metallica is such a big deal since I happened to get my hands on one or two of their "legendary" status albums, and I gotta say every time it comes on the party shuffle it's the most amazingly boring stuff. Singer kind of pisses me off too, the way he comes off every word (not really sure how to describe it). In all I can only stand like three of their songs, and in almost all of them I find I can skip around and not even be able to tell. Listening to a Metallica song is like like watching paint dry: boring, and when it's all done there wasn't even anything to see.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Hammerfall gets no love. :(

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Hammerfall gets no love. :(

    They never seemed that good to me, but then I don't actually own an album. Their style doesn't seem to stand our from the crowd, and I find that being able to understand the lyrics is actually a bad thing in power metal.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Bands like Hammerfall, Dragonforce, Blind Guardian, Kamelot and Helloween are plenty fun to have around, but they're pretty much completely irrelevant in terms of the sort of metal you see them parodying on Metalocalypse.

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  • Typhus733Typhus733 Yip! Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    There are many types of metal; Thrash, Power, Black, Death, Viking(sub-genre of the last two but one I love enough to always mention), and far many more.

    For Thrash there are only three that I can recommend but I cannot do it enough; Metallica (before Black Album, with Cliff's death they lost all metal, hell it even starts to show in ...And Justice with), Megadeth, and Annihilator. Slayer reaches too close into death for me but some people put them under the "Thrash" label. Others suggest Anthrax though I personally was never much of a fan.

    For Power Metal Blind Guardian and Rhapsody in Flames are a good place to start.

    Personally I am not a fan of Black metal or death but from word of mouth I hear Mayhem sums the genre up well enough. What I do know about Black metal though is listen to Bathory and King Diamond (who funnily enough had several guest spots on Metalocalypse), two of my favorite bands and Quorthon himself started the sub-genre Viking metal. Check out some Amon Amarth and Tyr to get more of a taste of Viking Metal.

    I'm not a fan of the Grindcore/Metalcore scene so I can offer you nothing there.

    Obviously check out the classics such as Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Dio, Motorhead, and so on.

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  • HalberdBlueHalberdBlue Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'm really into death metal, and the band that got me into death metal was actually Fear Factory. I liked Fear Factory a lot but I couldn't get into Soul of a New Machine or Concrete (their two death metal releases). Eventually though I just "understood" it and have been listening to death metal ever since.

    Since I only got into death metal a couple of years ago there is still a lot of bands I've never heard, so this thread has covered most of them. Ones that haven't been mentioned that I think are worth a listen: Bolt Thrower (definitely one of my favorite bands), Cryptopsy, Decapitated, Gorguts, and Morbid Angel. I'd say out of those Bolt Thrower is probably the easiest one to get into if you aren't accustomed to extreme metal. I've had plenty of friends tell me they liked whatever Bolt Thrower album I had playing in the car who aren't even metal fans. The other 4 are more extreme and difficult to like if your ears have yet to be properly 'attuned' in my opinion.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    If you want harder stuff, Dillinger Escape Plan and Meshuggah are good.

    Dillinger Escape Plan's live shows are awesome, but, uh, intense.

    Doc on
  • hambonehambone Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Holy shit, not a single person has mentioned Lamb of God?

    WTF, guys.

    That they and Mastodon and Slayer all lost out to Slipknot for a Grammy is a crime against our Dark Gods. Fucking music industry.

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  • coma whitecoma white Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    pheezer FD wrote: »
    Depending on where you want to go from there, there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot. I suggest: Ed Gein, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, Me and Him Call It Us, The Black Dahlia Murder and Converge. Feel free to PM me for some more suggestions.
    Try again, dude.

    Also, do I get in trouble in H/A if I call Pheezer dumb?

    Oh yeah, sorry for having an opinion.

    None of those are metal bands. This is a thread about metal bands. You fail.

    On top of that, a lot of those bands are really shitty, too.

    Why don't you read the whole post? Like the part where I said "there are alot of other metal influenced bands/genres to check out, like thrash or grind and whatnot." Usually, an intelligent person would be able to differentiate "metal" from "metal influenced" but maybe I'm expecting too much.
    suggesting godspeed you! to someone asking for metal is the dumbest shit i have ever heard

    anyway, the characters in dethklok are pretty heavily based on actual guys in the metal scene, so you might want to check out the bands they're from, like cannibal corpse (nathan explosion is so obviously derived from corspegrinder), children of bodom (the guitarist who's name i can pronounce but never spell properly. the blonde one), and toki is straight norweigan.

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