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[Scrolls] A trading based miniatures game

GumpyGumpy There is alwaysa greater powerRegistered User regular
edited June 2013 in Social Entropy++
You may have heard of Minecraft, a little hit from a man called Notch that made millions of dollars. Notch invested some of this money into his own company, named Mojang, and they're about to launch their second big project into the world.

Welcome to Scrolls

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So what is Scrolls? Its one of these fancy online trading card games, only its not designed to pick up your wallet and messily devour it. Open beta starts tomorrow using the same model as Minecraft (buy in and you'll get full access to every new update, including the full game when its officially released).

A rough guide to what is included in the beta can be found here.

So, how does the game work?

When you buy scrolls, you'll get to choose one of three starter decks. This deck will form the basis of your collection, with further scrolls being bought with ingame gold. A small selection of scrolls (6 random scrolls per week, per player) can also be bought with real money, but the gold needed to buy these weekly 6 scrolls in game can be earned in 2 to 3 victories, sharply limiting any advantage gained from using the cash shop.

You throw 50 cards (up to 3 of each) into a deck and run off to duel other players. You'll fight on a board that looks like this:
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Summoning creatures, flinging spells, that sort of thing. Its nice and turn based, and I'd say it was remarkably stress free.

You'll pick one of three resources to build your deck around, though splashing other colours is possible. You have:

Order: A military resource, based around formations of humanities best. Order players will set themselves up behind a spiky shield wall, deploying lots of troops to gradually steamroll opponents. Their creatures often buff each other, and their spells often impact movement of friends or foes.

Growth: A wilder resource, based around growing individual creatures. Growth is packed with wolves, vikings and enchantments to make the smallest creatures pack a nasty punch as the game goes on.

Energy: Energy is full of engineers, golems and robots. Energy is a bit more controlling, throwing around spells to directly destroy your opponents creatures and mighty bits of artillery to dominate the board. You will hate their mortars, even if you're the one using them.

Decay: Coming a bit after beta, decay is going to involve... death and stuff? They haven't really said much.

So, if you want a new and cheaper trading card game, give scrolls a go!

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    not totally sold on this game yet. The mojang name doesn't mean much since minecrafts success didn't have much to do with the companies skill, any word?

  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    It is a fun game that will be sadly forgotten because of HEARTHSTONE!

    Everyone should try it.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    It's not really an open beta if you have to buy your way in.

    Also, I dunno how the hell this is going to succeed with the glut of free online TCGs that have been coming from every corner of the internet lately. I guess it has the whole Mojang name recognition, but will a TCG attract that OCD lego-loving crowd?

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    It's not really an open beta if you have to buy your way in.

    Also, I dunno how the hell this is going to succeed with the glut of free online TCGs that have been coming from every corner of the internet lately. I guess it has the whole Mojang name recognition, but will a TCG attract that OCD lego-loving crowd?

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I've got the Mechwarrior Tactics thingy.

    I don't think I'm s'posed to talk about it yet.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    yeah rorus is right, it's not an open beta if you have to pay for it. It's a closed beta. Less closed than an invite-only type dealie, but still closed.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    The timing is just really unfortunate, because I've know about Scrolls for a year or two now, but they just manage to go into beta when there's like 10 promising TCGs on kickstarter that will launch free. Then you got pre-existing shit like that Might & Might TCG.

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  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    I thought this was about The Elder Scrolls Online. I am dissapointed.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    The timing is just really unfortunate, because I've know about Scrolls for a year or two now, but they just manage to go into beta when there's like 10 promising TCGs on kickstarter that will launch free. Then you got pre-existing shit like that Might & Might TCG.

    I think they're banking on name recognition and also the whole tactical board game kinda element to separate it from the rest of the pack

    It is kinda pricey for what it is, though

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  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    The timing is just really unfortunate, because I've know about Scrolls for a year or two now, but they just manage to go into beta when there's like 10 promising TCGs on kickstarter that will launch free. Then you got pre-existing shit like that Might & Might TCG.

    I think they're banking on name recognition and also the whole tactical board game kinda element to separate it from the rest of the pack

    It is kinda pricey for what it is, though

    If the beta price is $20, I can only assume that it'll be at least $30 after the beta ends

    Which would be on the upper end of a reasonable price point even if a) there weren't so many current and upcoming competitors in the genre already, and b) the game wasn't apparently structured around microtransactions on top of the cost of the base game itself

    I have the sneaking suspicion that Mojang are looking at the pricing model for Minecraft and assuming from there that they can charge whatever they want and people will buy it because it's a Mojang game, not realizing that nobody really cares about Mojang, only about Minecraft.

  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    I dunno. From their early posts about sales and such, it really looks like most of the cards you earn will be through in-game gold. There doesn't look like a lot of nickle-and-diming going on on top of that. So the higher initial price makes sense, because I think that's what they're expecting out of most people.

    Anyway, I've been drooling over Scrolls for a while, I can't wait to get home tonight and try it out. Notch hired a lot of smart and talented people and I'm eager to see what they turned out here.

  • godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular
    It is a fun game that will be sadly forgotten because of HEARTHSTONE!

    Everyone should try it.

    I think I'll wait for actual Hearthstone, myself. I've always like Blizzard.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    This looks like something I'd get into. I like card games but haven't seen a digital one yet that really impressed me

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  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Servers just went down to get ready for the full beta launch!

    Cost is a big issue here. I believe its justified because it sharply limits the amount of microtransactions in game. It takes... an hour or so to get an equal number of cards to those available weekly from the store? You cannot buy booster packs with real cash, and completing a single player challenge will net you between 3-5 scrolls. The pendulum is pretty far away from the microtransaction side of things. Hearthstone and others of its ilk, from what I know, will let there be a vastly bigger gap between players with cash and players without.


    Now, I'd like it without any microtransactions, but the nature of card games is the constant introduction of new cards, and I believe that's why they want there to be some way to get income from players in game to fuel further development.

  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Well, the "Buy" page isn't giving an error any more, but all I'm seeing is a header with "Buy Scrolls" and that's it.

  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Agahnim wrote: »
    I thought this was about The Elder Scrolls Online. I am dissapointed.

    Thank you for single handedly justifying a lawsuit.

    Your friend,
    BETHESDA

  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    The timing is just really unfortunate, because I've know about Scrolls for a year or two now, but they just manage to go into beta when there's like 10 promising TCGs on kickstarter that will launch free. Then you got pre-existing shit like that Might & Might TCG.
    I think they're banking on name recognition and also the whole tactical board game kinda element to separate it from the rest of the pack

    It is kinda pricey for what it is, though
    I kinda want to get this just for the HoM&M-style battle map, but I don't want to drop $20 on a TCG if I don't like the digital aspect of it. If I wanted to give that a shot, where would be a good place to start?

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Agahnim wrote: »
    I thought this was about The Elder Scrolls Online. I am dissapointed.

    Thank you for single handedly justifying a lawsuit.

    Your friend,
    BETHESDA

    I'm pretty sure Bethesda and them have already had legal conversations about the name, as I recall

    Something that came out when Tycho revealed he was doing some writing for Scrolls I thought

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  • godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Agahnim wrote: »
    I thought this was about The Elder Scrolls Online. I am dissapointed.

    Thank you for single handedly justifying a lawsuit.

    Your friend,
    BETHESDA

    I'm pretty sure Bethesda and them have already had legal conversations about the name, as I recall

    Something that came out when Tycho revealed he was doing some writing for Scrolls I thought

    Yeah, Bethesda vs Notch was where Notch tried to get them to settle over a Quake 3 tourney after Bethesda accused Mojang of copyright infringement because "Scrolls" could be confused with "Elder Scrolls".

  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    And the lawsuit's already been settled, so there's no problems there, thankfully.

    Purchasing was kind of a shitshow, but I figured it out (log in at Mojang, then come back to scrolls.com/buy, refresh until the store loads, buy damn game) and I am now "Imperfect" in-game.

    Of couse, I'm at work right now, so I won't be on until tonight, but whatevs.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    the lawsuit isn't settled until Notch takes on their lawyers in a round of counter-strike

    PPV event

    ill pay

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Agahnim wrote: »
    I thought this was about The Elder Scrolls Online. I am dissapointed.

    Thank you for single handedly justifying a lawsuit.

    Your friend,
    BETHESDA

    I'm pretty sure Bethesda and them have already had legal conversations about the name, as I recall

    Something that came out when Tycho revealed he was doing some writing for Scrolls I thought

    That's the joke.

  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Launch is fairly smooth, got a couple of thousand players involved so far

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Refreshing store page every 30 seconds, no luck so far.

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2013
    This looks kind of neat, but there's just no way in hell I'm paying $20 to buy into its "open" beta.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    what do you get for 20 bucks besides access to the game?

  • godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular
    It seems like you just get more play time than those who wait until release, and you may inherently get a 10-20 dollar discount from the final product.

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    godmode wrote: »
    It seems like you just get more play time than those who wait until release, and you may inherently get a 10-20 dollar discount from the final product.
    ah well.

    I might not even have enough money.

    :( Is it any fun?

  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Its pretty much exactly the same model minecraft used

    This is "Released", but will still have the full team working on it to add new features for an extended period of time.

  • BadwrongBadwrong TokyoRegistered User regular
    Pretty damn fun so far. My in-game name is Badwrong as well.

    Very easy to unlock stuff with in-game currency and not spend cash. Unless you want to buy full decks, which still aren't to bad to get in-game.

    For $20 it was totally worth it.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    well I'd get this just to support mojang but no money

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  • BadwrongBadwrong TokyoRegistered User regular
    Hmmm no friends list ingame yet it seems. But the chat room you join can be specified, I just typed in Penny Arcade and it made the lobby.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Still trying to get the store to work.

  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    I'm waiting more on that Mojang spaceship game really

  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    The spaceship game will be a while :p

  • DarkMechaDarkMecha The Outer SpaceRegistered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I think I'm going to get this have just bought it. In game name is DarkMecha.

    I'm such a sucker for these kind of games, I hope it will be fun. It sure looks awesome though.

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Gumpy wrote: »
    The spaceship game will be a while :p

    Oh, I know that. But I can wait.

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Whenever I read about 0x10c, I can't help feel like I'm listening to Molyneux promise revolutionary gameplay on yet another title that ends up failing to deliver on most of his promises.

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  • THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    I wanna buy this fucking game, but it just won't let me. The store page won't load and I get an error page when I try to log into https://account.mojang.com/

    THANKS OBAMA

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    I joined under the name jgeis.

    I keep getting "connection lost " errors while playing, even though I'm not losing my Internet connection.

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