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[Twilight Struggle] Game 5 - Game Over - Communism dies
Iron WeaselDillon!You son of a bitch!Registered Userregular
edited June 2013
We paid 2 Ops for 1 influence in Italy, because you controlled the country.
To Control a country, your influence must equal or exceed its stability AND exceed the opponent's influence by the stability number. You no longer meet that criteria, so Italy is now uncontrolled.
There are six Action Rounds in Turns 1-3, and 7 in Turns 4-10.
Usually, you will carry over one card into the next turn.
We cannot use China until next Turn.
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Play Marshal plan for 4 Ops, put 2 in Jordan and 2 in Israel.
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We are putting the free influence point in Canada.
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From the time of India’s independence from Britain, the Muslim and Hindu elements of this former colony have been in conflict. Pakistan has traditionally been on the losing end of these conflicts, but has relied on US and PRC support to maintain military credibility against a more robust Indian defense capability.
On June 5, Secretary of State George C. Marshall announced to the world the US plan to reconstruct all of Europe. Due to Soviet pressure, Eastern European states did not participate. However, for the 16 nations of Western Europe that did, the Marshall Plan marked the first step on the road to recovery and ultimate victory in the Cold War.
The Special Relationship is a phrase used to describe the exceptionally close political, diplomatic, cultural, economic, military, and historical relations between the United Kingdom and the United States, following its use in a 1946 speech by British statesman Winston Churchill. During the Second World War, the development of the atomic bomb required collaboration and trust between the British, Canadian, and American governments to a degree perhaps previously unimaginable. Additionally, in 1943, Britain made the crucial decision to share ULTRA codebreaking results directly with US intelligence. This relationship blossomed into the BRUSA Agreement, whose terms guided intelligence sharing throughout the Cold War. Even today, the UK and US remain the closest of allies, sharing military bases and economic ties throughout the world.
*** Soviet plays Special Relationship for 2 Ops.
*** Soviet initiates realignment in Israel.
* American roll modifier: +2
* Soviet roll modifier: +2
* U.S. Die = [4] *** <Soviet>
* Soviet Die = [2] *** <Soviet>
* Already zero Soviet influence in Israel.
* 1 Ops remaining for Realignment.
*** Soviet initiates realignment in Israel.
* American roll modifier: +2
* Soviet roll modifier: +2
* U.S. Die = [6] *** <Soviet>
* Soviet Die = [1] *** <Soviet>
* Already zero Soviet influence in Israel.
* One U.S. Influence placed in Canada.
The State of Israel was virtually born of war. After the end of the British mandate, Israel was thrust into conflict with its Arab neighbors. Israel prevailed in all such wars, excepting its invasion of Lebanon in 1982, from which it ultimately had to withdraw. Arab success was nearly achieved during the surprise attacks of the Yom Kippur War, however these too ultimately failed. While superpower intervention was frequently threatened on both sides, ultimately success or failure in the conflicts rode upon the relative capabilities of Arab and Israeli militaries.
*** American plays Arab-Israeli War Event ***
* American changes Soviet Military Ops to 4.
* Die-roll modifier: -2
* Soviet Die = [4] *** <American>
* Israel wins Arab-Israeli War..
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One of the giants in the Pan-Arab movement, Gamal Abdel Nasser rose to power through military coup. Attempting to steer an independent course during the Cold War, he provoked western governments by accepting Soviet aid, and nationalizing commercial property—the Suez Canal being the most prominent example. Egypt, under his leadership, was viewed as a Soviet client, and would serve as a Russian proxy during repeated wars with Israel. He died in office after 18 years of service, having frustrated the attempts of a variety of domestic and international enemies.
Before a joint session of Congress, the President announced the new Truman Doctrine, ushering in an era of intense intervention on behalf of states with liberal economic and political institutions. Truman stated “I believe that it must be the policy of the United States to support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by outside pressures.” The Truman Doctrine was prompted by the United Kingdom’s withdrawal from its traditional great power role in the Near East. The immediate effect of the doctrine was a massive influx of military and economic aid to Greece and Turkey.
*** American initiates coup in Iraq with 1 Ops.
* American changes DefCon to 3.
* No coups or realignments in Asia.
* U.S. Die = [2] *** <American>
* American changes American Military Ops to 1.
* No change in influence in Iraq.
He's a shy overambitious dog-catcher on the wrong side of the law. She's an orphaned psychic mercenary with the power to bend men's minds. They fight crime!
He's a shy overambitious dog-catcher on the wrong side of the law. She's an orphaned psychic mercenary with the power to bend men's minds. They fight crime!
The Soviets attempted to increase pressure on the Western allies to dissuade them from creating an independent “West” German government in their zones. The primary pressure point was a blockade of West Berlin. In response, the UK and US launched the Berlin Airlift, which at its peak during the “Easter Parade,” had a cargo plane landing in Berlin every minute.
Captured most visibly by Nagy’s attempt to withdraw Hungary from the Warsaw Pact and Czechoslovakia’s Prague Spring of 1968, members of the Warsaw Pact frequently sought to loosen the reins of Moscow. When taken too far, from the Soviet perspective, the effects could be devastating. Soviet tanks became a universal symbol of Soviet determination to hold on to Eastern Europe, through undisguised oppression if necessary.
While it is hard to put precise dates on the decolonization process, those dates chosen represent two of the most significant decolonization successes. Sparking the retreat from empire was Britain’s fulfilled promise of independence for India in 1947. At the other extreme, Rhodesia’s first majority elections spelled doom for the apartheid system.
*** American plays Decolonization in the Space Race for 2 Ops.
* U.S. Die = [5] *** <American>
* Space Race attempt not successful.
*** U.S. did not perform enough Military Operations ***
* U.S. player penalized 2 VPs.
* Soviets gain 2 VPs.
* DefCon to 4.
* Coups and realignments now allowed in Asia.
Headlines chosen. U.S. has higher Ops so U.S event goes first:
A term coined by diplomat and Sovietologist George Kennan, it came to form the cornerstone of US policy toward the Soviet Union during the early Cold War. It found early application in the Truman Doctrine and sought to “contain” Communism to those areas where it already existed.
Sparked by a North Korean invasion across the 38th parallel, the Korean War would be the first war sanctioned by the United Nations. There were 15 nations beyond the US and South Korea with combat forces attempting to defend South Korean independence. MacArthur’s campaign to the Yalu River provoked a Chinese response that reset the war to its starting positions on the 38th parallel.
** American plays Containment* Event ***
* US adds 1 Ops to cards played this turn (to maxmimum of 4).
*** Soviet plays Korean War* Event ***
* Soviet changes Soviet Military Ops to 2.
* Die-roll modifier: 0
* Soviet Die = [4] *** <Soviet>
* North wins Korean War.
* Soviets gain 2 VPs.
* Soviet changes VPs to 4 Soviet Victory Points.
* Removing 1 U.S. Influence from S. Korea.
* Adding 1 Soviet Influence in S. Korea.
Play Nato Card. Warsaw Pact and/or Marshall Plan have not been played as events, so event does not occur.
2 influence in South Korea for control.
2 influence in Iraq for control.
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ok, enough dilly dallying by me. thanks for the rules clarification, stever.
play Destalinization for a Coup attempt in Thailand.
Card has 3 Ops.
Roll 2-3 to remove (1,2) American Influence
Roll 4-6 to add (1,2,3) USSR Influence
The second part of the US strategy to rebuild Europe, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) became synonymous with the West’s opposition to the Soviet Union. An oft repeated maxim for NATO’s purpose captures it nicely: “NATO was created to keep the Soviets out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”
The People’s Republic of China played a pivotal role during the Cold War. While the PRC’s influence was largely limited to satellites in Asia, the country was important to the uneasy balance of power that ultimately descended upon the post-WWII world. While beginning as an ally of the USSR, China became a counter-balance to Soviet influence in Asia during the later stages of the Cold War.
During the 20th Party Congress, Nikita Khrushchev openly attacked Stalin’s leadership of the Soviet Union. It was seen both inside and outside the Soviet Union as the beginning of a new era. This proved to be a particularly bloody assumption for Nagy’s Hungary. Khrushchev had no intention of “liberalizing” Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, even if he was trying to bring an end to the cult of personality that had characterized internal Soviet government.
** Soviet initiates coup in Thailand with 3 Ops.
* Soviet changes DefCon to 3.
* No coups or realignments in Asia.
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <Soviet>
* Soviet changes Soviet Military Ops to 5.
* Removing 2 American Influence from Thailand.
U.S. Influence in Thailand was decreased from 2 to 0.
He's a shy overambitious dog-catcher on the wrong side of the law. She's an orphaned psychic mercenary with the power to bend men's minds. They fight crime!
Beginning in the 1920s, the Soviet Union became obsessed with centralized planning of its economy and industrial development. Twelve such plans were adopted by the USSR during its history. While economists differ, it is largely agreed that these plans caused more dislocation within the Soviet economy than they resolved.
*** American initiates coup in Egypt with 4 Ops.
* DefCon to 2.
* No coups or realignments in MiddleEast.
* U.S. Die = [1] *** <American>
* American changes American Military Ops to 4.
* Removing 1 Soviet Influence from Egypt.
The North American Aerospace Defense Command is a joint military organization sponsored by the governments of Canada and the United States. Its mission is to jointly monitor and control the air space over North America from unfriendly incursion. It was founded initially to protect against the threat of low flying Soviet bombers attacking from the Arctic region. During the Cold War, the Command was famously housed in the Cheyenne Mountain facility depicted in the film Wargames. At its height, NORAD commanded 250,000 military personnel. The command illustrates the full integration and cooperation of US allies into the US nuclear umbrella and alliance structure.
Reacting to the “loss of China” the United States Congress extended to President Eisenhower open ended authority to defend Taiwan—technically known as the Republic of China on Taiwan—with military force. The resolution came at a time when the United States faced challenges from the People’s Republic in Indochina as well as the Korean peninsula. Effectively, Taiwan sat under the US nuclear umbrella, and the balance of power within the Taiwan Straits would now remain a question of strategic importance to the United States.
An embarrassment among allies, the Suez Crisis ended any remaining doubt that the old system of Great Power imperialism was dead. Threatened by Nasser’s nationalization of the Suez Canal, Israel, France and the United Kingdom conspired to alter Egyptian policy at bayonet point. They failed to appreciate Eisenhower’s aggravation at their unannounced initiative. Though initially militarily successful, the three powers were compelled to withdraw under American pressure.
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To Control a country, your influence must equal or exceed its stability AND exceed the opponent's influence by the stability number. You no longer meet that criteria, so Italy is now uncontrolled.
There are six Action Rounds in Turns 1-3, and 7 in Turns 4-10.
Usually, you will carry over one card into the next turn.
We cannot use China until next Turn.
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1 point to regain control of Italy,
1 point in Syria for control
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You could be a host someday...
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gonna spend the "Special Relationship" card for realignment attempts in Israel. If it is a blowout victory, the 2nd realignment will happen in jordan
I think we are both at +2 for our modifiers
USSR (+1 for Syria and +1 for Lebanon Control)
USA (+1 for influence in Israel, +1 for Jordan Control)
fingers crossed, dont screw me over vassel.
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Also: Turn 1 is a little early to be complaining of option paralysis, especially when you arguably have the upper hand at the moment.
This game isn't as one-sided as MEQ, but I'm sure you'll do just fine.
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From the time of India’s independence from Britain, the Muslim and Hindu elements of this former colony have been in conflict. Pakistan has traditionally been on the losing end of these conflicts, but has relied on US and PRC support to maintain military credibility against a more robust Indian defense capability.
On June 5, Secretary of State George C. Marshall announced to the world the US plan to reconstruct all of Europe. Due to Soviet pressure, Eastern European states did not participate. However, for the 16 nations of Western Europe that did, the Marshall Plan marked the first step on the road to recovery and ultimate victory in the Cold War.
The Special Relationship is a phrase used to describe the exceptionally close political, diplomatic, cultural, economic, military, and historical relations between the United Kingdom and the United States, following its use in a 1946 speech by British statesman Winston Churchill. During the Second World War, the development of the atomic bomb required collaboration and trust between the British, Canadian, and American governments to a degree perhaps previously unimaginable. Additionally, in 1943, Britain made the crucial decision to share ULTRA codebreaking results directly with US intelligence. This relationship blossomed into the BRUSA Agreement, whose terms guided intelligence sharing throughout the Cold War. Even today, the UK and US remain the closest of allies, sharing military bases and economic ties throughout the world.
*** Soviet plays Special Relationship for 2 Ops.
*** Soviet initiates realignment in Israel.
* American roll modifier: +2
* Soviet roll modifier: +2
* U.S. Die = [4] *** <Soviet>
* Soviet Die = [2] *** <Soviet>
* Already zero Soviet influence in Israel.
* 1 Ops remaining for Realignment.
*** Soviet initiates realignment in Israel.
* American roll modifier: +2
* Soviet roll modifier: +2
* U.S. Die = [6] *** <Soviet>
* Soviet Die = [1] *** <Soviet>
* Already zero Soviet influence in Israel.
* One U.S. Influence placed in Canada.
Map:
American Action Round 4.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
Arab-israeli war for Ops.
+1 Israel
+1 India
Event after.
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The State of Israel was virtually born of war. After the end of the British mandate, Israel was thrust into conflict with its Arab neighbors. Israel prevailed in all such wars, excepting its invasion of Lebanon in 1982, from which it ultimately had to withdraw. Arab success was nearly achieved during the surprise attacks of the Yom Kippur War, however these too ultimately failed. While superpower intervention was frequently threatened on both sides, ultimately success or failure in the conflicts rode upon the relative capabilities of Arab and Israeli militaries.
*** American plays Arab-Israeli War Event ***
* American changes Soviet Military Ops to 4.
* Die-roll modifier: -2
* Soviet Die = [4] *** <American>
* Israel wins Arab-Israeli War..
Map:
Soviet Action Round 5.
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More land war in Asia! We can not fail!
One of the giants in the Pan-Arab movement, Gamal Abdel Nasser rose to power through military coup. Attempting to steer an independent course during the Cold War, he provoked western governments by accepting Soviet aid, and nationalizing commercial property—the Suez Canal being the most prominent example. Egypt, under his leadership, was viewed as a Soviet client, and would serve as a Russian proxy during repeated wars with Israel. He died in office after 18 years of service, having frustrated the attempts of a variety of domestic and international enemies.
Before a joint session of Congress, the President announced the new Truman Doctrine, ushering in an era of intense intervention on behalf of states with liberal economic and political institutions. Truman stated “I believe that it must be the policy of the United States to support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by outside pressures.” The Truman Doctrine was prompted by the United Kingdom’s withdrawal from its traditional great power role in the Near East. The immediate effect of the doctrine was a massive influx of military and economic aid to Greece and Turkey.
*** American initiates coup in Iraq with 1 Ops.
* American changes DefCon to 3.
* No coups or realignments in Asia.
* U.S. Die = [2] *** <American>
* American changes American Military Ops to 1.
* No change in influence in Iraq.
Map:
Soviet Action Round 6.
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Do you have that 3 ops card?
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Send Decolonization to spaaaaaaace!
The Soviets attempted to increase pressure on the Western allies to dissuade them from creating an independent “West” German government in their zones. The primary pressure point was a blockade of West Berlin. In response, the UK and US launched the Berlin Airlift, which at its peak during the “Easter Parade,” had a cargo plane landing in Berlin every minute.
Captured most visibly by Nagy’s attempt to withdraw Hungary from the Warsaw Pact and Czechoslovakia’s Prague Spring of 1968, members of the Warsaw Pact frequently sought to loosen the reins of Moscow. When taken too far, from the Soviet perspective, the effects could be devastating. Soviet tanks became a universal symbol of Soviet determination to hold on to Eastern Europe, through undisguised oppression if necessary.
While it is hard to put precise dates on the decolonization process, those dates chosen represent two of the most significant decolonization successes. Sparking the retreat from empire was Britain’s fulfilled promise of independence for India in 1947. At the other extreme, Rhodesia’s first majority elections spelled doom for the apartheid system.
*** American plays Decolonization in the Space Race for 2 Ops.
* U.S. Die = [5] *** <American>
* Space Race attempt not successful.
*** U.S. did not perform enough Military Operations ***
* U.S. player penalized 2 VPs.
* Soviets gain 2 VPs.
* DefCon to 4.
* Coups and realignments now allowed in Asia.
No Map Changes.
PM me you Headline cards for Truman turn.
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A term coined by diplomat and Sovietologist George Kennan, it came to form the cornerstone of US policy toward the Soviet Union during the early Cold War. It found early application in the Truman Doctrine and sought to “contain” Communism to those areas where it already existed.
Sparked by a North Korean invasion across the 38th parallel, the Korean War would be the first war sanctioned by the United Nations. There were 15 nations beyond the US and South Korea with combat forces attempting to defend South Korean independence. MacArthur’s campaign to the Yalu River provoked a Chinese response that reset the war to its starting positions on the 38th parallel.
** American plays Containment* Event ***
* US adds 1 Ops to cards played this turn (to maxmimum of 4).
*** Soviet plays Korean War* Event ***
* Soviet changes Soviet Military Ops to 2.
* Die-roll modifier: 0
* Soviet Die = [4] *** <Soviet>
* North wins Korean War.
* Soviets gain 2 VPs.
* Soviet changes VPs to 4 Soviet Victory Points.
* Removing 1 U.S. Influence from S. Korea.
* Adding 1 Soviet Influence in S. Korea.
Map:
Soviet Action Round 1.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
2 influence in South Korea for control.
2 influence in Iraq for control.
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Place 2 in India, 2 in Thailand and 1 in japan
play Destalinization for a Coup attempt in Thailand.
Card has 3 Ops.
Roll 2-3 to remove (1,2) American Influence
Roll 4-6 to add (1,2,3) USSR Influence
cmon 6!
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The second part of the US strategy to rebuild Europe, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) became synonymous with the West’s opposition to the Soviet Union. An oft repeated maxim for NATO’s purpose captures it nicely: “NATO was created to keep the Soviets out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”
The People’s Republic of China played a pivotal role during the Cold War. While the PRC’s influence was largely limited to satellites in Asia, the country was important to the uneasy balance of power that ultimately descended upon the post-WWII world. While beginning as an ally of the USSR, China became a counter-balance to Soviet influence in Asia during the later stages of the Cold War.
During the 20th Party Congress, Nikita Khrushchev openly attacked Stalin’s leadership of the Soviet Union. It was seen both inside and outside the Soviet Union as the beginning of a new era. This proved to be a particularly bloody assumption for Nagy’s Hungary. Khrushchev had no intention of “liberalizing” Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, even if he was trying to bring an end to the cult of personality that had characterized internal Soviet government.
** Soviet initiates coup in Thailand with 3 Ops.
* Soviet changes DefCon to 3.
* No coups or realignments in Asia.
* Soviet Die = [3] *** <Soviet>
* Soviet changes Soviet Military Ops to 5.
* Removing 2 American Influence from Thailand.
U.S. Influence in Thailand was decreased from 2 to 0.
Map:
U. S. Action Round 2.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
Beginning in the 1920s, the Soviet Union became obsessed with centralized planning of its economy and industrial development. Twelve such plans were adopted by the USSR during its history. While economists differ, it is largely agreed that these plans caused more dislocation within the Soviet economy than they resolved.
*** American initiates coup in Egypt with 4 Ops.
* DefCon to 2.
* No coups or realignments in MiddleEast.
* U.S. Die = [1] *** <American>
* American changes American Military Ops to 4.
* Removing 1 Soviet Influence from Egypt.
Map:
Soviet Action Round 3.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
1 Influence in Egypt to regain control
2 Influence in Libiya to gain control
event happens, but we are at defcon 2 already and canada aint in USA control. hopefully quagmire comes my way soon.
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Formosan Resolution for Ops
+3 Saudi Arabia
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Remove 2 influence from Israel and 2 influence from the UK
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The North American Aerospace Defense Command is a joint military organization sponsored by the governments of Canada and the United States. Its mission is to jointly monitor and control the air space over North America from unfriendly incursion. It was founded initially to protect against the threat of low flying Soviet bombers attacking from the Arctic region. During the Cold War, the Command was famously housed in the Cheyenne Mountain facility depicted in the film Wargames. At its height, NORAD commanded 250,000 military personnel. The command illustrates the full integration and cooperation of US allies into the US nuclear umbrella and alliance structure.
Reacting to the “loss of China” the United States Congress extended to President Eisenhower open ended authority to defend Taiwan—technically known as the Republic of China on Taiwan—with military force. The resolution came at a time when the United States faced challenges from the People’s Republic in Indochina as well as the Korean peninsula. Effectively, Taiwan sat under the US nuclear umbrella, and the balance of power within the Taiwan Straits would now remain a question of strategic importance to the United States.
An embarrassment among allies, the Suez Crisis ended any remaining doubt that the old system of Great Power imperialism was dead. Threatened by Nasser’s nationalization of the Suez Canal, Israel, France and the United Kingdom conspired to alter Egyptian policy at bayonet point. They failed to appreciate Eisenhower’s aggravation at their unannounced initiative. Though initially militarily successful, the three powers were compelled to withdraw under American pressure.
Map:
U. S. Action Round 4.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1