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[Chaos] CitOW Game 100 - Gorden's 3rd Old World

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  • Magic GeekMagic Geek Registered User regular
    Only HR with 2, and then TZ again with 1....

  • Gorden858Gorden858 Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Summoning Phase 2:

    Board Update:
    Interactive Version
    o5rw.png

    @Flimflammery active

    Gorden858 on
  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Magic Geek wrote: »
    Only HR with 2, and then TZ again with 1....

    And as you can see, I can only get one DAC. I wasn't kidding before about my board position.

    Flimflammery on
  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    Rat Ogre to Estalia.

    0/6 PP and rest.

    @DarkPrimus to finish us off.

  • Magic GeekMagic Geek Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    You are outright winning, while complaining about your board position! . . . Bravo !

    Magic Geek on
  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    I'm not complaining about my board position in any capacity other than my ability to get DACs. As you say, that's possibly not going to be a factor anyway for the remainder of the game.

  • Magic GeekMagic Geek Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    You have maybe 9 PP of active figures and an upgrade.
    Dude....

    Magic Geek on
  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    I think 'complaining' is too strong a word really. I used your phrasing, but really, I was merely noting the fact of my lack of ability to get DACs following up on our earlier conversation.

    I'm well aware I'm in a strong position this turn overall, and obviously I'm glad of that. However, we all have played enough of this game, I think, to realise that being in a strong position at this stage of the game is hardly conclusive, and paints something of a target on my back. It's not over by a long shot.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Summon a Cultist to The Badlands.
    0/6
    I rest. However...

    Summoning my Cultist would give @Belfast 1 Power Point. Except that I'm the last person to play anything, which means the Summoning Phase would end when I go to 0, before he gains a Power Point. Right?

    DarkPrimus on
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  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Summon a Cultist to The Badlands.
    0/6
    I rest. However...

    Summoning my Cultist would give @Belfast 1 Power Point. Except that I'm the last person to play anything, which means the Summoning Phase would end when I go to 0, before he gains a Power Point. Right?
    the FAQ wrote:
    Q: Can Slaanesh receive power from “Festival of Sinew” after his power marker drops to zero on his power point track?

    A: Yes. When a player’s power marker is on the “0” space of his power point track, his turn is skipped (see page 11 of the base game rulebook). If a player manages to receive power due to some effect, he is no longer at “0,” so his turn is not skipped.

  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    Therefore, @Belfast for 1PP.

  • Magic GeekMagic Geek Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    TZ..... I have NO IDEA.
    FAQ is empty on this one.

    I also can't really see how he could usefully spend a point, unless it was to move a cultist from Bretonnia in BP.

    Magic Geek on
  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    Magic Geek wrote: »
    Quoted for Truth! Justice! and the Dirty Rat Way!

    Translation 1...
    Yes, I am winning, but it does not matter because someone else will win.
    Translation 2...
    These are not the droids you are looking for
    Translation 3...
    Trust me, I am a doctor.

    * * DUDE ! * *



    :rotate:

    Maybe it doesn't occur to you, as someone who rarely loses this game, but to someone who has actually never won a full game of Chaos despite having played it 15 or so times (I won a three player game once, but that was against two complete newbs, so I barely count that), it's rather easier to be pessimistic at this stage. I'm sorry if you find me disingenuous, that's your prerogative, but I've been nothing but truthful so far.
    And TZ..... I have NO IDEA.
    FAQ is empty on this one.
    ... And, to be Honest it is far less funny than Flim.
    I also can't really see how he could usefully spend a point, unless it was to move a cultist from Bretonnia in BP.....

    See above for the FAQ's answer. Look harder ;)

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Flimflammery wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Summon a Cultist to The Badlands.
    0/6
    I rest. However...

    Summoning my Cultist would give @Belfast 1 Power Point. Except that I'm the last person to play anything, which means the Summoning Phase would end when I go to 0, before he gains a Power Point. Right?
    the FAQ wrote:
    Q: Can Slaanesh receive power from “Festival of Sinew” after his power marker drops to zero on his power point track?

    A: Yes. When a player’s power marker is on the “0” space of his power point track, his turn is skipped (see page 11 of the base game rulebook). If a player manages to receive power due to some effect, he is no longer at “0,” so his turn is not skipped.

    I'm aware of this, however the rule book also says "The summoning phase ends when all players’ power markers are on the “0” spaces of their respective power point tracks." The FAQ reads more like the player can come back when other players are still able to play, which is why I'm not sure about it.

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  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    I think if you consider you spending 1PP, the Acolyte being put into the Badlands, and thus Slaanesh being given 1PP, as simultaneous occurrences, which essentially they are, then not everyone is at 0PP at the same time. It seems to needlessly penalise Slaanesh otherwise, I think. Although MG is right, there's probably not much he could do with 1PP now anyway.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    I'm not arguing for it either way, that's why I'm asking what everyone else thinks.

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  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    No worries, just putting forward my tuppen'orth :)

  • Gorden858Gorden858 Registered User regular
    Flimflammery wrote: »
    I think if you consider you spending 1PP, the Acolyte being put into the Badlands, and thus Slaanesh being given 1PP, as simultaneous occurrences, which essentially they are, then not everyone is at 0PP at the same time. It seems to needlessly penalise Slaanesh otherwise, I think. Although MG is right, there's probably not much he could do with 1PP now anyway.

    That's how we will rule it.

  • BelfastBelfast Penguins PenguinsRegistered User regular
    could I have the latest board please so I can efficiently use this unexpected PP that I have just been given? Thanks.

    aka "Mr Gold-in-Bean-Field"
  • Magic GeekMagic Geek Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Tz asked what happens when the round is over, and then Slaan gets a point.
    That aint in the FAQ, and is an interesting question that I have no idea about.

    Magic Geek on
  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    There are 21 figurines in Bretonnia. That's simply amazing.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    I don't envy Khorne. Depending on how the dice fall he is going to end up doing a lot of math in order to figure out which figures he wants to off.

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    The fate of the region won't be in my hands unless I get like, 8 hits off 4 dice. It'll be up to all of you since I roll first!

  • Gorden858Gorden858 Registered User regular
    Summoning Phase 2:

    Board Update:
    Interactive Version
    hquf.png

    @Belfast active

  • BelfastBelfast Penguins PenguinsRegistered User regular
    Corrupt from Within to The Empire moving the Noble token to the Border Princes.

    Rest... again.

    aka "Mr Gold-in-Bean-Field"
  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    Sneaky sneaky!

  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    @Gorden858 I think we're ready!

  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Magic Geek wrote: »
    I think they are not simultaneous occurrences because NOTHING in this game is simultaneous. EVER.
    Then, after that part of the turn MIGHT be over, Slaan gets a point.

    Fair enough. It comes to the same thing though, if you agree that Slaanesh should get the point. I think we're all victims of FFG's shoddy rules editing here, once again. If nothing happens simultaneously, then, as writ in the rulebook sequence of events (1. Choose a figure/card; 2. Pay the cost; 3. Place it in a legal region - see p.11 of the rulebook) when a player places a figure/card as the last action of the Summoning Phase, surely everyone is at 0PP at the end of step 2; therefore the Summoning Phase has ended, and the player doesn't get to place it after all.

    i.e. Insisting that nothing happens simultaneously seems to result in a paradox which screws the final player of each round.
    Magic Geek wrote: »
    Penalties are punishments for bad play or actions. Slaan being rewarded needlessly is also not needed, and just as valid a set of phrasing.

    Why is he being rewarded needlessly? He's spent a card to get that effect, it's not as if he got it for free. It wasn't as if it was a particularly bad play either; if I had placed a Clan Rat instead of a Rat Ogre prior to Tzeentch's move we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
    Magic Geek wrote: »
    & I fully understand you are being truthful, that is why it is so funny.
    In this game, Khorne & HR are way out in front.
    Try using evidence from this game to demonstrate otherwise... :)

    I don't have any desire to demonstrate otherwise. We are winning. I just don't think stating who is in the lead at this point in the game is particularly indicative of who will actually be the winner; especially, in my experience, if it's me.

    Flimflammery on
  • BelfastBelfast Penguins PenguinsRegistered User regular
    That last bit is scientific fact

    aka "Mr Gold-in-Bean-Field"
  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Just 'cos I'm on tenterhooks:

    The Empire: 4 dice vs Peasant
    Bretonnia: 4 dice, 4 dice, 1 die, 2 dice
    Estalia: 2 dice, 1 die

    Flimflammery on
  • Gorden858Gorden858 Registered User regular
    Ardor wrote: »
    @Gorden858 I think we're ready!

    Are you really waiting for me to officially allow you to start killing? Or do you need an Board Update with that one card play? ;-)

    Fine...

    Battle Phase 2:

    Board Update:
    Interactive Version
    I will provide a new image at the end of the phase.
    Flimflammery wrote: »
    Just 'cos I'm on tenterhooks:

    The Empire: 4 dice vs Peasant
    Bretonnia: 4 dice, 4 dice, 1 die, 2 dice
    Estalia: 2 dice, 1 die

    That's perfectly correct.

    @Ardor active

  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    I accept the ridicule, Gorden. That was silly of me!

    Geth roll 4d6h4 for Khorne in The Empire.

    Kill 1 peasant.

    Khorne in The Empire:
    4d6h4 2 [4d6h4=4, 3, 4, 3]

    Ardor on
  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    Geth roll 4d6h4 for Khorne in Bretonnia.

    Khorne in Bretonnia:
    4d6h4 3 [4d6h4=5, 3, 3, [6, 4]]

  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    Kill 3 lepers.

    @Magic Geek

  • Magic GeekMagic Geek Registered User regular
    Geth roll 4d6h4 for Khorne in Bretonnia.

    Khorne in Bretonnia:
    4d6h4 1 [4d6h4=[6, 2], 3, 2, 2]

  • Magic GeekMagic Geek Registered User regular
    kill a purple cultist

    It really aint easy being green in this particular game....

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Geth roll 1d6h4 for Tzeentch in Bretonnia

    Tzeentch in Bretonnia:
    1d6h4 1 [1d6h4=4]

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Kill the grey cultist, why not.
    This also means I get to place a Warpstone Token in Bretonnia.

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  • FlimflammeryFlimflammery There's always money in the banana stand... Oxford, UKRegistered User regular
    Geth, why you so mean?

    @Belfast

  • BelfastBelfast Penguins PenguinsRegistered User regular
    Geth roll 2d6h4 for slaanesh

    slaanesh:
    2d6h4 1 [2d6h4=3, 5]

    aka "Mr Gold-in-Bean-Field"
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