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Watchmen is basically the shining example of what you can do with the comic medium that you can't really do with any other. I don't know if that makes it the best, but it definitely makes it more than just a pretty good story.
It is a pretty good story but it is not THE GREATEST COMIC EVER WRITTEN (TM) like some people seem to think.
What about greatest superhero comic?
It was a damn good comic, and definitely one of the better comics I have ever read.
I don't really think of it as a superhero comic though because
Only 1-2 people actually have super powers. Dr. Manhattan of course does; but his role in the book isn't a major one, important yes but not major. I'd say that Ozymandias had super powers as well, I'm sure some will try to argue that, but they were minor and low-key. Mostly involving him being super intelligent.
"alien invasion unites humanity against a common enemy"
a cliche back when this was written?
I'm thinking a FAKE one wasn't.
I figured. I just wondered if Moore had invented the thing himself, or just kind of played with the cliche.
Though I don't remember it in the comic, there is this Outer Limits episode.
I believe they actually mention that episode slyly in the book, as sort of an admission of, "Yes, I know, it's been done. Let's keep moving."
Lux on
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Garlic Breadi'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm aRegistered User, Disagreeableregular
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The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
well, if you don't count 'liquid metal man come from the future to kill my mom and me and am saved by robot surrogate father'
of course, it is no coincidence that schwarzenegger was in that film as well
The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
The Jews have produced only three originative geniuses: Christ, Spinoza, and myself.
The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
The Jews have produced only three originative geniuses: Christ, Spinoza, and myself.
But I thought that T2 was a rehash of a grek play?
I mean, substitute "The Future" with "Mt Olympus" and "Shape changing" for "Liquid Metal" and "Horny god" for "Robot".
It's all been done.
Edit: I realize you where probably being sarcastic. But I've typed this far, and now I have to hit the button.
The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
The Jews have produced only three originative geniuses: Christ, Spinoza, and myself.
Guess who said this. No googling.
elie wiesel
No, he's not very arrogant, is he?
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Edited for clarity, I meant that as a question, not a statement.
The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
The Jews have produced only three originative geniuses: Christ, Spinoza, and myself.
Guess who said this. No googling.
elie wiesel
No, he's not very arrogant, is he?
-edit-
Edited for clarity, I meant that as a question, not a statement.
i'm kidding, i actually already knew who it was, but why should i ruin the game because i'm so damn brilliant
she guest-stars in a moveable feast
Servo on
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Garlic Breadi'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm aRegistered User, Disagreeableregular
The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
well, if you don't count 'liquid metal man come from the future to kill my mom and me and am saved by robot surrogate father'
of course, it is no coincidence that schwarzenegger was in that film as well
The only totally original idea to come along in the last hundred years was, "Hey, let's cast Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger as twins." Other than that, you gotta go back to the Magna Carta.
The Jews have produced only three originative geniuses: Christ, Spinoza, and myself.
Guess who said this. No googling.
elie wiesel
No, he's not very arrogant, is he?
-edit-
Edited for clarity, I meant that as a question, not a statement.
i'm kidding, i actually already knew who it was, but why should i ruin the game because i'm so damn brilliant
I really like the art and style of Watchmen. So many of the characters have such awesome costume designs. I dunno, they all seem so . . . fresh? You know, not unique, but the opposite of stale? The personality of the characters is almost tangible just from how they dress. That's something special that you really don't get to see in most other super-hero books. In fact, off the top of my head, I can't think of any.
I dislike the art in Watchmen. Everybody looks about 8 feet tall. Of course, it doesn't help that my copy has terrible colouring. Looks like it was printed with ice lolly juice.
The costumes were derived from a lot of 80's era designs back then.
I'd say they where derived from the Charleston characters they where each based off of.
Some more than others though. I mean, Nite Owl looks a lot like Blue Beetle, Rorshach is pretty much the Question with a different mask, however the Comedian doesn't look much like Peacemaker and Captain Atom never walked around naked.
The costumes were derived from a lot of 80's era designs back then.
I'd say they where derived from the Charleston characters they where each based off of.
Some more than others though. I mean, Nite Owl looks a lot like Blue Beetle, Rorshach is pretty much the Question with a different mask, however the Comedian doesn't look much like Peacemaker and Captain Atom never walked around naked.
Ah. I was gonna say something to that effect but I kept typing Charelton. Now, they were around prior to the eighties then?
good but not nearly as good as every issue of Spawn.
Luckily I think you are being sarcastic. If I thought you were serious, I would be bleeding from the ears.
dingdingding winar!
i've been trying to think of a series I liked more than Watchmen since someone started this thread but I can't. I don't think there has ever been a better comic writer than Moore.
I really like psychological mind-fucks and this story was one to me. Every character was very deep and well developed and nobody was perfect. I liked it because it was dark and very intelligent. I don't know if I would say best comic ever, but I can't think of any that are better off the top of my head.
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a cliche back when this was written?
Some of us can't stand the after-taste, you know.
I happened to like Watchmen a helluva lot, but I also take issue with anyone who claims it as the be-all and end-all of the comic book world.
I figured. I just wondered if Moore had invented the thing himself, or just kind of played with the cliche.
What about greatest superhero comic?
What's your vote?
Not Watchmen, though.
It was a damn good comic, and definitely one of the better comics I have ever read.
I don't really think of it as a superhero comic though because
Though I don't remember it in the comic, there is this Outer Limits episode.
I believe they actually mention that episode slyly in the book, as sort of an admission of, "Yes, I know, it's been done. Let's keep moving."
well, if you don't count 'liquid metal man come from the future to kill my mom and me and am saved by robot surrogate father'
of course, it is no coincidence that schwarzenegger was in that film as well
Guess who said this. No googling.
elie wiesel
I mean, substitute "The Future" with "Mt Olympus" and "Shape changing" for "Liquid Metal" and "Horny god" for "Robot".
It's all been done.
Edit: I realize you where probably being sarcastic. But I've typed this far, and now I have to hit the button.
No, he's not very arrogant, is he?
-edit-
Edited for clarity, I meant that as a question, not a statement.
i'm kidding, i actually already knew who it was, but why should i ruin the game because i'm so damn brilliant
Every time I read it I discover something new, like looking at a Rorschach test.
Hey! That's the name of a character!
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Some more than others though. I mean, Nite Owl looks a lot like Blue Beetle, Rorshach is pretty much the Question with a different mask, however the Comedian doesn't look much like Peacemaker and Captain Atom never walked around naked.
Ah. I was gonna say something to that effect but I kept typing Charelton. Now, they were around prior to the eighties then?
Luckily I think you are being sarcastic. If I thought you were serious, I would be bleeding from the ears.
dingdingding winar!
i've been trying to think of a series I liked more than Watchmen since someone started this thread but I can't. I don't think there has ever been a better comic writer than Moore.
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It is so fantastically written, it is one of the few comics that I consider to be a true peice of literature.