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Mutual DV Next Door [TRIGGER WARNING]

The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
I am currently experience The Joy of Renting (TM).

Every day shortly after work, the pseudo-apartment unit next to mine suddenly features the following drama:

[WOMAN SCREAMING AT MAN]
[MAN SCREAMING AT WOMAN]
[PUNCHING SOUNDS]
[SOUNDS OF OBJECTS BEING SLAMMED AROUND / BROKEN]

As far as I can tell - I could be wrong - the couple is equally violent, and I've heard both of them clearly being the aggressor on different days.


Anyway, the first time i heard that shit I immediately called the police, and I've called the police twice since then. Every time the police show-up, the couple literally books it out the back door into the woods. Like, there is a forest directly out of the back door, and they just run into it. I then explain to the officer what I heard, they say thanks and head on their way (for clarification: the 3 officers that have shown-up on each occasion also saw the couple run into the woods, so it's not like they think I'm crank calling them or something)

If i were to call the police every time I heard this nonsense, I would be calling them literally 5-6 times per week. I do not mind doing this, but I have heard from people in the past that become a 'problem caller' or whatever if you call that frequently, and they'll either start giving you shit or just start refusing to respond when you phone anything in. Does anyone know if this is true (I live on Vancouver Island and am currently calling the Parksville police office, to give further detail), or if shades of it are true? I don't want 9-1-1 to basically stop functioning for me. And, that part aside, is it reasonable to call the police that frequently? I've never been very liberal about calling emergency services, but then again I've never had to deal with next door neighbor DV every single day before.

With Love and Courage

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Next time the police come you can ask them if you should keep calling.

  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    Additionally, I would say that you may want to ask if there's a better number to call; some PDs have units specific to domestic violence etc and it's quite possible you're not the only person who has ever called about this couple if they've lived in the area for a while.

  • Gilbert0Gilbert0 North of SeattleRegistered User regular
    Try the non-emergency line or central line 250 248-6111 (this is directly off their website). They'd be able to tell you to keep calling 911 or how to keep handling it in the future.

    Hopefully, due to the amount of calls, they'd come by to investigate but who knows.

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    If they're literally running into the woods, I'd be curious to know if they have warrants or anything. Generally a noise violation gets you a, "Hey can you keep it down?". Even if it's domestic violence someone has to show signs of being injured or claim to have been hit for it to be an automatic overnight. If they're collectively running out the back and vanishing for a day or so, there is probably more going on.

    If you keep calling the cops (emergency line, or not) you may want to tell the dispatch that every time someone comes out they run away, and suggest maybe someone approach from that side of the building the next time you call. Wild speculation on my part, but I'm going to go with drugs and/or alcohol and some outstanding issues with the law that make them immediately forget about the fight and see the real threat to be the police.

  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    If they're literally running into the woods, I'd be curious to know if they have warrants or anything. Generally a noise violation gets you a, "Hey can you keep it down?". Even if it's domestic violence someone has to show signs of being injured or claim to have been hit for it to be an automatic overnight. If they're collectively running out the back and vanishing for a day or so, there is probably more going on.

    If you keep calling the cops (emergency line, or not) you may want to tell the dispatch that every time someone comes out they run away, and suggest maybe someone approach from that side of the building the next time you call. Wild speculation on my part, but I'm going to go with drugs and/or alcohol and some outstanding issues with the law that make them immediately forget about the fight and see the real threat to be the police.

    +1

    You don't want to find out you've got a meth lab next door when it explodes.

  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    If they're literally running into the woods, I'd be curious to know if they have warrants or anything. Generally a noise violation gets you a, "Hey can you keep it down?". Even if it's domestic violence someone has to show signs of being injured or claim to have been hit for it to be an automatic overnight. If they're collectively running out the back and vanishing for a day or so, there is probably more going on.

    If you keep calling the cops (emergency line, or not) you may want to tell the dispatch that every time someone comes out they run away, and suggest maybe someone approach from that side of the building the next time you call. Wild speculation on my part, but I'm going to go with drugs and/or alcohol and some outstanding issues with the law that make them immediately forget about the fight and see the real threat to be the police.

    Yeah, that's my guess too; probably a stash of pot somewhere. Most people here smoke it.

    Thanks for the advice, folks. I'll ask dispatch next time I call.
    You don't want to find out you've got a meth lab next door when it explodes.

    That's a fair concern, but the units are just too small for a lab (front is an open kitchen area with a glass sliding door as the main entrance, with the back being a small bedroom -it would be pretty obvious if anyone was doing something really uncouth).

    With Love and Courage
  • cabsycabsy the fattest rainbow unicorn Registered User regular
    The Ender wrote: »
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    If they're literally running into the woods, I'd be curious to know if they have warrants or anything. Generally a noise violation gets you a, "Hey can you keep it down?". Even if it's domestic violence someone has to show signs of being injured or claim to have been hit for it to be an automatic overnight. If they're collectively running out the back and vanishing for a day or so, there is probably more going on.

    If you keep calling the cops (emergency line, or not) you may want to tell the dispatch that every time someone comes out they run away, and suggest maybe someone approach from that side of the building the next time you call. Wild speculation on my part, but I'm going to go with drugs and/or alcohol and some outstanding issues with the law that make them immediately forget about the fight and see the real threat to be the police.

    Yeah, that's my guess too; probably a stash of pot somewhere. Most people here smoke it.

    Thanks for the advice, folks. I'll ask dispatch next time I call.
    You don't want to find out you've got a meth lab next door when it explodes.

    That's a fair concern, but the units are just too small for a lab (front is an open kitchen area with a glass sliding door as the main entrance, with the back being a small bedroom -it would be pretty obvious if anyone was doing something really uncouth).

    People have meth labs in the trunk of their cars, I don't think there is such a thing as too small for a meth lab. You'd probably smell it though, unless your ventilation in the units is really amazing.

  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    Where is the landlord in all of this? usually there is a clause about being a nuisance.

    I would imagine when there is no victim, and no perpetrator, there is not much the police can do.

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Some states have laws that require the police to arrest one of the parties if they are called out for DV. No matter what, one person gets put in a cell.

    http://www.saveservices.org/dvlp/policy-briefings/what-are-the-state-laws-that-mandate-arrest-for-dv-assault/

    Your neighbors may know this and that could be the reason they are booking it when the cops come.

    ObiFett on
  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    Your neighbors are probably the stereotypical couple.

    If they aren't cooking something, they are known to the police and quite possibly have some kind of warrant out. Ask next time you call if you should keep calling, suggest they sent two units - one around back, and talk to your landlord.

    Also, no apartment is too small for a meth lab. Every place has a bathroom, and that's more than enough room.

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Your neighbors are probably the stereotypical couple.

    If they aren't cooking something, they are known to the police and quite possibly have some kind of warrant out. Ask next time you call if you should keep calling, suggest they sent two units - one around back, and talk to your landlord.

    Also, no apartment is too small for a meth lab. Every place has a bathroom, and that's more than enough room.
    If that's "stereotypical couple" where you live, I don't know what to say.

  • KarrmerKarrmer Registered User regular
    As a dispatcher (but not in Canada) I can say that you calling repeatedly isn't a bad thing. Few dispatchers are annoyed by people calling in domestic violence - it's the ones that call in noise complaints like music etc every day that get old.

    That said, communicate to dispatch that they run out to the woods in the back every time and if the department is even halfway competent they'll have an officer get behind the residence before they make contact at the front. It sounds like there is probably something more going on besides just the domestic disputes.

  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Your neighbors are probably the stereotypical couple.

    If they aren't cooking something, they are known to the police and quite possibly have some kind of warrant out. Ask next time you call if you should keep calling, suggest they sent two units - one around back, and talk to your landlord.

    Also, no apartment is too small for a meth lab. Every place has a bathroom, and that's more than enough room.
    If that's "stereotypical couple" where you live, I don't know what to say.

    Stereotypical problem couple, excuse me.

    Lots of different offensive terms for the couple that's always fighting, cooking up meth, the kind you see on Cops without a shirt on.

  • seabassseabass Doctor MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    The Ender wrote: »
    I am currently experience The Joy of Renting (TM).

    Every day shortly after work, the pseudo-apartment unit next to mine suddenly features the following drama:

    [WOMAN SCREAMING AT MAN]
    [MAN SCREAMING AT WOMAN]
    [PUNCHING SOUNDS]
    [SOUNDS OF OBJECTS BEING SLAMMED AROUND / BROKEN]

    As far as I can tell - I could be wrong - the couple is equally violent, and I've heard both of them clearly being the aggressor on different days.


    Anyway, the first time i heard that shit I immediately called the police, and I've called the police twice since then. Every time the police show-up, the couple literally books it out the back door into the woods. Like, there is a forest directly out of the back door, and they just run into it. I then explain to the officer what I heard, they say thanks and head on their way (for clarification: the 3 officers that have shown-up on each occasion also saw the couple run into the woods, so it's not like they think I'm crank calling them or something)

    If i were to call the police every time I heard this nonsense, I would be calling them literally 5-6 times per week. I do not mind doing this, but I have heard from people in the past that become a 'problem caller' or whatever if you call that frequently, and they'll either start giving you shit or just start refusing to respond when you phone anything in. Does anyone know if this is true (I live on Vancouver Island and am currently calling the Parksville police office, to give further detail), or if shades of it are true? I don't want 9-1-1 to basically stop functioning for me. And, that part aside, is it reasonable to call the police that frequently? I've never been very liberal about calling emergency services, but then again I've never had to deal with next door neighbor DV every single day before.

    You don't live near Boston do you? I've got a similar neighbor in a similar complex where our backyard is also a small forest.
    For solving the issue of the couple beating the holy hell out of eachother, yeah, the cops are basically your best and only recourse. I was told to use the non-emergency number here, but your mileage may vary.

    However, I'm a callous dick, and I didn't really care that they were tearing themselves apart. I just wanted them to be quiet. I found complaining to the land lord about that to be more effective. So, if you're primarily concerned with peace and quiet, you may try going that route. I know in my lease it states that if you have more than X noise complaints against you, you can't renew your lease.

    Run you pigeons, it's Robert Frost!
  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    Karrmer wrote: »
    As a dispatcher (but not in Canada) I can say that you calling repeatedly isn't a bad thing. Few dispatchers are annoyed by people calling in domestic violence - it's the ones that call in noise complaints like music etc every day that get old.

    That said, communicate to dispatch that they run out to the woods in the back every time and if the department is even halfway competent they'll have an officer get behind the residence before they make contact at the front. It sounds like there is probably something more going on besides just the domestic disputes.

    This so much. If they're running, I doubt it's just DV that's making them run from the police. If there is doubt, than there is no doubt. It could be drugs, or they have warrants on them - who knows? Either way, let them know what shennagins they are up to when they bolt to the woods. I imagine an officer strategically placed would resolve this nicely.

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