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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    The Betman wrote: »

    You know, I kind of feel bad for Curtis Axel. He obviously wants to succeed and he obviously comes from a great pedigree of pro wrestling talent. But his mic skills are very weak and none of his matches have ever really wowed me in any way.

    I sincerely hope that Langston takes the belt off of him and is able to do something with it. Defenses that aren't on the pre-show, for instance. I'm a big believer that belts should have a hierarchy and that the hierarchy should be adhered to, especially in terms of PPV placement.

    The WWE title should always be in the main event, except in extremely special situations like maybe an Undertaker WM match or something that garners extreme interest like Rock/Cena.

    The World title should always be before the WWE title. The IC title should always be before the World title and the US title should always be before the IC title. The tag titles can be thrown in anywhere before the WWE and World titles, depending on the amount of interest the particular feud is getting at the time.

    It sounds stiff and rigid, yes, but you build people (and the titles they hold) by making them important. And, ostensibly, you make people important by where you place them on the show. The last match or segment on a wrestling show is called "the main event" for a reason. It's because a show is supposed to build to a crescendo; to the main thing people paid to see. So when you do things like having the IC title on a free pre-show where it's not technically even part of the PPV, you're relegating the match (and by extension, the belt) to being something that isn't even worth putting your money down for. It fails to make anyone or anything associated with the match credible or worth suspending your disbelief for.

    I realize I went off on a bit of a tangent there, but I'm really tired of the idea that every belt besides the WWE title (and sometimes not even it) mean nothing and are just ornaments. Why is Curtis Axel IC champ? It's certainly not because he's a winner or because he's particularly skilled or because people care about him. He's just there. Yet he holds a title that used to be bestowed upon people who were either the best workers in the company and/or were destined to be the WWE champ at some point. Curtis, along with other people that have been holding the title recently, do not fit either description. Big E does, though, and I hope they use him to bring some prestige back to the title.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    They tried with Axel, and I've been impressed with his matches of late. But yeah he doesn't need the IC title anymore. He'd be best in a tag team again. Hell, re-team him with David Otunga.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    The World title is basically what the IC belt used to be. It's now the belt that the main eventers who are lower on the totem pole, or the guys close to the main event, compete for.

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    The World title is basically what the IC belt used to be. It's now the belt that the main eventers who are lower on the totem pole, or the guys close to the main event, compete for.

    Which is why they should just drop the US title. The IC title still holds importance in terms of WWE history but the US title? No.

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    They should keep the US Title and merge the World and WWE Championship, it makes no sense to have both of them now.

    You open the show with the US Title, Intercontinental is above everything but gimmick rivalry matches, then the Tag Team Championships and then the WWE Championship.

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Some pretty significant news for indy wrestling fans. From the wallsofjerichoholic blog:
    Metro Pro Wrestling, which had gone on indefinite hiatus after losing its television deal locally, will be returning to active duty as part of a new sanctioning body called United Wrestling TV. Joining the Kansas City promotion will be Championship Wrestling from Hollywood, New York Wrestling Connection, River City Wrestling (San Antonio), Traditional Championship Wrestling (Arkansas), Ultra Championship Wrestling (Utah), Championship Wrestling from Arizona, New England Championship Wrestling, Future Stars of Wrestling (Reno), and the West Coast Wrestling Connection (Oregon). The body will not require any fees for status. The only requirement is that each member promotion has a television show. For those who don't have a program currently, founder David Marquez will work to get them local airtime.

    The federation's formation seems to be a not-so-secret response to the National Wrestling Alliance. Marquez was instrumental in removing CWFH from the oldest governing body over stupid politics, which to my knowledge, was more the machinations of people within the Alliance grabbing for power. They pissed off a lot of people, including Adam Pearce and Colt Cabana, who left the Ten Pounds of Gold laying in the middle of the ring in Australia rather than claim it at the end of their Seven Levels of Hate. While I'm not too quick to take arms against the NWA - they still have some pretty nifty wrestlers working underneath its umbrella - competition, even on the independent level, is generally a good thing.

    Marquez's group making television the centerpiece of its alliance is brilliant, though. Any initiative looking to put more wrestling content out for mass consumption (and my assumption is that this alliance will distribute the local content centrally through an online hub) is a fine one. I've heard rumblings about a touring Champion, which would tie the venture together pretty neatly. Either way, this news is still pretty new. The best part about the announcement is that Metro Pro will indeed live on, and it will join a bunch of other promotions of varying levels of exposure in a neat idea that has been overdue, in my mind.

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    Sounds like a modern territory system.

    Interesting.

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Some pretty significant news for indy wrestling fans. From the wallsofjerichoholic blog:
    Metro Pro Wrestling, which had gone on indefinite hiatus after losing its television deal locally, will be returning to active duty as part of a new sanctioning body called United Wrestling TV. Joining the Kansas City promotion will be Championship Wrestling from Hollywood, New York Wrestling Connection, River City Wrestling (San Antonio), Traditional Championship Wrestling (Arkansas), Ultra Championship Wrestling (Utah), Championship Wrestling from Arizona, New England Championship Wrestling, Future Stars of Wrestling (Reno), and the West Coast Wrestling Connection (Oregon). The body will not require any fees for status. The only requirement is that each member promotion has a television show. For those who don't have a program currently, founder David Marquez will work to get them local airtime.

    The federation's formation seems to be a not-so-secret response to the National Wrestling Alliance. Marquez was instrumental in removing CWFH from the oldest governing body over stupid politics, which to my knowledge, was more the machinations of people within the Alliance grabbing for power. They pissed off a lot of people, including Adam Pearce and Colt Cabana, who left the Ten Pounds of Gold laying in the middle of the ring in Australia rather than claim it at the end of their Seven Levels of Hate. While I'm not too quick to take arms against the NWA - they still have some pretty nifty wrestlers working underneath its umbrella - competition, even on the independent level, is generally a good thing.

    Marquez's group making television the centerpiece of its alliance is brilliant, though. Any initiative looking to put more wrestling content out for mass consumption (and my assumption is that this alliance will distribute the local content centrally through an online hub) is a fine one. I've heard rumblings about a touring Champion, which would tie the venture together pretty neatly. Either way, this news is still pretty new. The best part about the announcement is that Metro Pro will indeed live on, and it will join a bunch of other promotions of varying levels of exposure in a neat idea that has been overdue, in my mind.

    The only one of those I recognize is CWFH, but that's because it's on here. It's also consistently good.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    I hope my local promotion Anarchy wrestling in Cornelia, GA will join up with them. They've had TV for years and I'm sure they'd want to stick it to the NWA since they refused to pay the fee to remain a member.

    Anarchy, when it was called Wildside, was the start-up promotion for AJ Styles, R-Truth, Abyss, and Gunner.

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    You forgot Jimmy Rave who is better than all of those except Styles.

    Oh yeah forgot about him. Gunner is going to be Anarchy's annual Halloween season show this Saturday which I'm looking forward to. Guy has a great presence that doesn't translate on TV for whatever reason. Maybe it's the intimate setting.

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    The WHC belt as curtain jerker is really good

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    So Jay Briscoe is now "cleared" to wrestle again. Hooray for homophobes getting ROH title shots again!

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  • QuickSnapQuickSnap Professional Beard Grower Registered User regular
    So...this is a thing. Thoughts on it? Also, I'm back from being dead(Taker says hi), can someone give me a quick tl;dr on what's been happening lately?

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Hullis wrote: »
    The WHC belt as curtain jerker is really good

    I swear to God Hullis, I'll find another UBW match...

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2013
    NYWC is the wrestling promotion that has shows in my town (in one of the school district I work at's buildings, in fact). Its where Zack Ryder and Curt Hawkins came from and where The Big O currently wrestles. Its Mikey Whipwreck's school/promotion. If its going to be on TV in some format I might have to make it down more than the one time I've been.

    EDIT: Apparently the Big O just won the NYWC Championship at the last event. Interesting.

    2nd EDIT: Make that last month. Whoops.

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Hullis wrote: »
    The WHC belt as curtain jerker is really good

    I swear to God Hullis, I'll find another UBW match...

    man if we posted bad matches for every shitty post I'd have a full time job replying to you

  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    QuickSnap wrote: »
    So...this is a thing. Thoughts on it? Also, I'm back from being dead(Taker says hi), can someone give me a quick tl;dr on what's been happening lately?

    Everything is wonderful forever. That's all you really need to know.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Magnus appeared as a guest on Busted Open Radio, hosted by Doug Mortman and Dave LaGreca (Busted Open Radio airs every Monday, Wednesday and Friday from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. on Sirius 94 and XM 208), where he discussed a number of TNA-related topics. Highlights from the interview are as follows:

    On people expressing negativity towards TNA through social media platforms: “People think because that they watch a few DVD’s that document one part of history and how the business went and they are able to predict what’s going to happen in a completely new set of circumstance and I tend to ignore it and I don’t really give it much thought. These are basically the people that throw something out there with no filter because they are nobodies and I’m not trying to knock anyone. It’s easy to say when you have nothing to lose and to throw out an opinion in the hope that it actually happens and then you can say: ‘See, I was right. I told you.’ For some reason now we live in an age now where all wrestling fans think are obsessed with showing on how much knowledge they have and its either you’re just a fan or you’re in the business.

    “Your knowledge is kind of irrelevant unless you are in the industry or unless you are making a living off of our sweat or talking about and I’m one of those people too, I have a column in a wrestling magazine that I get paid to do but the only difference is that I get paid to do it because people read that magazine because they want to hear something’s on the ground that makes for a nice change. I use Twitter as a promotional tool and somewhat as a barometer, it’s like an instant focus group and I think if you take it anymore serious, then you are probably wasting your own time and I tell my fellow peers the same thing especially the younger guys who don’t have as much experience for their age and are bothered and affected by this kind of stuff on Twitter and I said look: ‘This is what Twitter is. In terms to your significance, your life, your career and your psyche, don’t take it seriously then you should do, which is not very much at all.’”

    On giving an inside look at TNA: “Honestly, I am not qualified to answer that. I’m not trying to dodge the question, I promise you. I’m not really qualified to speak on physical matters or anything like that as far as the company is concerned. I will say this that any wrestling fan who claims to be a wrestling fan should get off this bandwagon of: ‘Let’s all talk about the state of TNA’s business.’ Anyone would tell you that and I’m talking about people on Wall Street, people in any industry, particularly the entertainment industry where the reputation of image is very important, that sometimes all you need is the rumor even if there is no validity to it and then the rumor can actually become a possibility. It boggles my mind there are people out there that you read their bio or they will tell you: ‘I eat, sleep and breathe wrestling man. I love it’ but then they are the ones that say: ‘TNA is going to go out of business and yada, yada, yada.’

    Do you want that to happen? Do you want to have less wrestling on TV? Do you want all of these performers that you admire have to go find work somewhere else? I don’t understand that. That to me has always been a strange thing and the irony of it is that these are the people that claim to be the most dedicated wrestling fans and the one who are not paying for the Pay-Per-Views, they are illegally downloading them and they are busy knocking everything at every opportunity and becoming armchair writers or armchair quarterbacks as the saying goes. You are harming the business more then you are aiding it and I don’t understand why would do that if you claim to love it so much. It’s not me trying to say: ‘Oh please, stop expressing you opinion.’ But if you are being overwhelming negative all the time then you should focus it somewhere else and focus it on yourself.”

    If the "wrestling on TV" going away is the same thing I saw Sunday on BfG, then yes Magnus, I do.

  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    I always get sad when TNA wrestlers complain about negative fans about the TNA product.

    I have tried so hard to be positive about the product and I've kept watching it hoping it will become a good program, but it can only manage to do it for like four months at a time and rarely even that. Last Summer was a highpoint and everybody got excited and then they did Claire Lynch and wrestling fans want TNA to succeed they're just sad because it's not succeeding and it's not entertaining.

  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    the world title has basically been the 'alberto del rio needs a feud' belt since the awesome awesome daniel bryan/sheamus feud ended

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  • CuvisTheConquerorCuvisTheConqueror They always say "yee haw" but they never ask "haw yee?" Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    I always get sad when TNA wrestlers complain about negative fans about the TNA product.

    I have tried so hard to be positive about the product and I've kept watching it hoping it will become a good program, but it can only manage to do it for like four months at a time and rarely even that. Last Summer was a highpoint and everybody got excited and then they did Claire Lynch and wrestling fans want TNA to succeed they're just sad because it's not succeeding and it's not entertaining.

    Same here. I watched TNA since they were on Fox Sports Net. I was a paying customer at Bound for Glory '09, and I convinced my brother and two of my best friends to come with me. It hurt me to give up on them, but their product got so terrible, it hurt more to watch it. I suffered through Jarrett, I suffered through Russo, but Hogan and Bischoff have made the product unwatchable, and they show no signs of going away. It's sad that all I can hope for for TNA is a merciful death.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    And I don't think it's the fans wanting TNA to go away, it's them expecting it to happen.

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Everything I read or hear about it is always people wishing TNA could turn things around and become the alternative to WWE that they always proclaimed they were going to be.

  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    SMACKDOWN SPOILERS YOU GUYS
    BIG E LANGSTON IS MAIN EVENTING THE GO-HOME SMACKDOWN BECAUSE THE MIZ GOT PUT IN A CAGE BY THE WYATT FAMILY AND DANIEL BRYAN+THE RHODES NEED ANOTHER GUY TO FIGHT ORTON AND THE SHIELD

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Hullis wrote: »
    SMACKDOWN SPOILERS YOU GUYS
    BIG E LANGSTON IS MAIN EVENTING THE GO-HOME SMACKDOWN BECAUSE THE MIZ GOT PUT IN A CAGE BY THE WYATT FAMILY AND DANIEL BRYAN+THE RHODES NEED ANOTHER GUY TO FIGHT ORTON AND THE SHIELD

    There is not one part of that sentence that isn't amazing.

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    MORE SPOILERS
    BIG E INTERRUPTS THE RKO, ENABLING BRYAN TO HIT THE RUNNING KNEES FOR THE WIN

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Hullis forgot another great part of the show
    Ryback and Heyman in a handicap match beat CM SKUNK (a local jobber with skunk hair)

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Hullis forgot another great part of the show
    Ryback and Heyman in a handicap match beat CM SKUNK (a local jobber with skunk hair)

    They should have just brought this back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSn5LT5CsI

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  • HjorvarthrHjorvarthr Registered User regular
    IS IT FRIDAY YET

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Full Smackdown spoilers:
    The show opened with Michael Cole interviewing Triple H in the ring. They were seated in chairs for the sit-down interview. Triple H said six people were fired for setting up the production for Big Show. He noted that Show filed a lawsuit. He said Show is irrelevant and he remains fired and he can't comment further.

    They spoke briefly of the Alberto Del Rio vs. John Cena match and moved onto Daniel Bryan and Shawn Michaels. Hunter said Michaels will do the right thing. Daniel Bryan's music hit. Hunter stayed in his seat. Bryan cut a promo saying he will prove Hunter wrong at Hell in a Cell. Bryan had a staredown and Triple H left to yes chants

    1. The Uso Brothers defeated Luke Harper and Erick Rowan (w/Bray Wyatt). Miz was at ringside and kicked Wyatt. Rowan chased Miz, and the Uso's double teamed Harper and got the three count.

    2. A.J. Lee (w/Tamina Snuka) beat Nikki Bella (w/Brie Bella). A.J. picked up the win with the Black Widow in three minutes.

    3. Los Matadores defeated Heath Slater and Drew McIntyre. Zeb Colter and The Real Americans watched the match from the stage.

    Backstage, The Wyatt Family had Miz chained up in a dark cage with "liar" painted on his stomach.

    4. Ryback and Paul Heyman defeated C.M. Skunk in a No DQ handicap match. Yeah, that's right C.M. Skunk, a local jobber with skunk hair. The crowd really popped when Punk's music hit, but it was merely a squash match for Heyman and Ryback. Afterward, Heyman cut promo on Punk, saying he is Best in the World. He absolutely had the most heat of the night thus far.

    Big E Langston told Vickie Guerrero that he wants in the main event match now that Miz is out. She agreed after he told her that she is nothing like Brad Maddox.

    Alberto Del Rio delivered a promo on the stage. Pretty standard mic work from Del Rio.

    5. The Great Khali (w/Natalya) fought Fandango (w/Summer Rae) to an apparent no-contest. Summer Rae slapped Natalya and they fought inside the ring, which led to the apparent no-contest. Khali chopped Fandango to end the segment.

    6. Daniel Bryan, Big E Langston, Cody Rhodes, and Goldust defeated Randy Orton, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and Dean Ambrose in an eight-man tag. Bryan pinned Orton to win the match. A standard eight-man tag with near falls. Overall, a good match live.

    Yeah that show sounds good.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    They tried with Axel, and I've been impressed with his matches of late. But yeah he doesn't need the IC title anymore. He'd be best in a tag team again. Hell, re-team him with David Otunga.

    ...what has he been up to lately, anyway? I was just asking my wife this the other day after we saw a guy on the subway who looked sort of like him.
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Hullis forgot another great part of the show
    Ryback and Heyman in a handicap match beat CM SKUNK (a local jobber with skunk hair)

    They should have just brought this back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSn5LT5CsI

    Didn't Punk hate that?


    Okay, so here's something I'm hoping you guys can help me out with. Recently, WWE put the full SummerSlam 2005 match between Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels on their YouTube channel, and I finally got to watching it tonight with my wife. I've seen clips, but never the full match, due in part to being on something of a wrestling hiatus for a while at the time. I forget what triggered it, I was just burned out by it (I've come to regret missing so many great-sounding matches during that time).

    ANYWAY, the match: Pretty infamous, all said, but is there a clear record or reason why Shawn was overselling during the whole thing? I've heard various stories, with one saying HBK was unhappy selling to an inferior opponent, another saying HBK wanted a face vs. face match and Hogan exerted creative control to turn Shawn back to '97, another saying that Hogan was supposed to return the job but refused/was leaving or something after the match, and yet another saying that it was because Shawn dug a bit too deep in the Larry King mock-interview.

    There are probably more, but... it's kind of difficult to get a clear picture here, as I realized when trying to explain to my wife why HBK was overselling every big move.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Apparently Punk no-showed some Chikara events early on so CP Munk was the companies "payback" such as it was. Man I keep forgetting Punk was on their very first show. But here's Punk's official response:
    I'm split 50/50 on it. Some days I get real pissed about it, because it's disrespectful. I'm sure it's no secret that the dorks that run Chikara and I don't get along, so their judgment on trying to "mock" me is a little off. Most other days I just laugh it off because nobody from Chikara will ever be over enough anywhere for anybody else to parody them. I win.

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Okay, so here's something I'm hoping you guys can help me out with. Recently, WWE put the full SummerSlam 2005 match between Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels on their YouTube channel, and I finally got to watching it tonight with my wife. I've seen clips, but never the full match, due in part to being on something of a wrestling hiatus for a while at the time. I forget what triggered it, I was just burned out by it (I've come to regret missing so many great-sounding matches during that time).

    ANYWAY, the match: Pretty infamous, all said, but is there a clear record or reason why Shawn was overselling during the whole thing? I've heard various stories, with one saying HBK was unhappy selling to an inferior opponent, another saying HBK wanted a face vs. face match and Hogan exerted creative control to turn Shawn back to '97, another saying that Hogan was supposed to return the job but refused/was leaving or something after the match, and yet another saying that it was because Shawn dug a bit too deep in the Larry King mock-interview.

    There are probably more, but... it's kind of difficult to get a clear picture here, as I realized when trying to explain to my wife why HBK was overselling every big move.

    Because both men are assholes and didn't want to lose to each other so instead of being a professional Michaels decided to make Hogan look like an idiot by overselling all his moves and showing just how fake wrestling is because he's so cool.

  • Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    Shawn's performance in that match is one of the all time greats, I won't hear a word said against it.

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    I agree with both of those above posts. Shawn was a dick for overselling but Hogan is an impossibly bigger fucking foreskin not wanting to put over a guy he should have put over in the early 90s.

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    Smackdown spoilers

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  • CuvisTheConquerorCuvisTheConqueror They always say "yee haw" but they never ask "haw yee?" Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    They tried with Axel, and I've been impressed with his matches of late. But yeah he doesn't need the IC title anymore. He'd be best in a tag team again. Hell, re-team him with David Otunga.

    ...what has he been up to lately, anyway? I was just asking my wife this the other day after we saw a guy on the subway who looked sort of like him.
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Hullis forgot another great part of the show
    Ryback and Heyman in a handicap match beat CM SKUNK (a local jobber with skunk hair)

    They should have just brought this back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSn5LT5CsI

    Didn't Punk hate that?


    Okay, so here's something I'm hoping you guys can help me out with. Recently, WWE put the full SummerSlam 2005 match between Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels on their YouTube channel, and I finally got to watching it tonight with my wife. I've seen clips, but never the full match, due in part to being on something of a wrestling hiatus for a while at the time. I forget what triggered it, I was just burned out by it (I've come to regret missing so many great-sounding matches during that time).

    ANYWAY, the match: Pretty infamous, all said, but is there a clear record or reason why Shawn was overselling during the whole thing? I've heard various stories, with one saying HBK was unhappy selling to an inferior opponent, another saying HBK wanted a face vs. face match and Hogan exerted creative control to turn Shawn back to '97, another saying that Hogan was supposed to return the job but refused/was leaving or something after the match, and yet another saying that it was because Shawn dug a bit too deep in the Larry King mock-interview.

    There are probably more, but... it's kind of difficult to get a clear picture here, as I realized when trying to explain to my wife why HBK was overselling every big move.

    Basically, Hogan was going to leave the company, and didn't want to put HBK over on the way out. And Shawn doesn't like people who do that. Ask Bret Hart.

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    Sheamus interview with IGN.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCv2BLKGgJY

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