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MuragoMurago Registered User regular
edited April 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
What I could really use is some information. I'm currently employed at Cingular, the New AT&t as a sales rep in a corporate owned store in Florida. I'm planning a move to Orlando in two months. At first, I was hoping at keeping things simple and simply transferring to a store in the Orlando area. The trouble is, they can't hold a position for me in two months; so while there is a chance that i could still be transferred, its not something i want to leave to chance. Also, the retail stores up there are pro-actively involved with cold calling businessess and doing road shows to venues to activate service. Honestly, i'm just not into that type of salesmanship. It feels too much like soliciting, and if i'm going to rated on my ability to do that, i probably won't do too well.

So this leaves me with searching for employment. I also plan on attending UCF or Valencia (a massive community college) in the spring of next year. I plan on renting a house. Not a condo or townhome or apartment. My ideal price range is under $1200 in house payments. I will be splitting this rent + utilities 2 ways, so i need about 1500-2000 a month. This is what i currently make per month (apx). I need info. regarding places I should look for employment. I was thinking Radio Shack, since i'm into electronic equipment (like cell phones @.@).

I guess the thing i need advice on is recommendations. I worked at Best Buy previously, and i suppose its not out of the question, but i don't know if i really want to go there again. I DO like the idea of not haveing to worry about a quota though. I'm having trouble thinking outside the box.

What does a person who doesn't have a degree yet do for a living to make a decent wage?

How soon should i start sending out apps and resumes?

What should a 22 yr old salesmen with 3 years experience ask for starting?

What should i expect in pay?

Any suggestions for employment that might be interesting and are outside of the realm of sales? I'm not into manual labor or food service. Well, at least not waiting tables or cooking.

Any help you guys can offer would be so awesome. Thanks =)

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I can't answer most of this, but you should definitely start sending out resumés and applications now. Just make sure that your start date is accurate.

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  • crakecrake Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Do you HAVE to have a house? Doesn't sound like such a good idea to spend most or all of your monthly pay on rent. Reduced living costs will help in being flexible about what job you do end up taking

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  • DrHookensteinDrHookenstein Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    If you have good skills, you may also check out temporary staffing agencies. Based on the location's manager/supervisor they can range from terrible to truly amazing; but in my experience, it has always helped to get the "foot in the door," in companies where you can shine and be hired higher up.

    Again, though, you must have excellent office-oriented skills, or they'll never offer you any of those types of opportunities.

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  • MuragoMurago Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    A house is necessary. The real reason for my move (the number one reason) is for my band. Well, more like a duo right now, which will be a trio once we find a drummer. Anyway, a decent rehearsal studio (which would cost about 200-400 a month) is hard to find. If i get a house with a 2 car garage, it would be easier. We can just set up and practice in the garage. My 2nd reason for going is for college purposes.

    When you say good skills (which reminds me of my of my sweet bo staff skills), do you mean like micrsoft office knowledge? General Computer knowledge? or something else? My start date is like, the first monday of June.

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  • DrHookensteinDrHookenstein Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    All of the above.

    They will be evaluating four main criteria (I used to work internally at one):

    1. Office skills including Microsoft Word (primarily), Typing Speed (50-60+), Mathematical Skills, Basic Reading/Writing, and Microsoft Excel.

    2. Groomed Appearance

    3. Articulation/Communication Skills (Good: "I'm an active participant in conversations!" / Bad: "I, like, ya'know, something.")

    4. Behavior, including: punctuality, basic ethics, and politeness.

    Incidentally, Word skills are so critical for a lot of these agencies that a quick break-down of skills that differentiate "Good" from "Proficient" (which also separates "I have a position for you that starts this afternoon," from "We'll call you when we find something that matches your skill-set") follows in ascending order of "difficulty":

    1. Basic stuff like typing, deleting, adding extra lines, printing, and spell-checking.
    2. Formatting a page including: setting margins, line spacing, font type, size, and formatting, setting headers and footers, and drawing objects.
    3. Advanced formatting including: Using numbered lists and bullets, inserting tables, inserting objects and pictures.
    4. Extraordinary formatting including: Microsoft Word is less like "software" and more like "wet clay" in your hands. You are capable of turning Microsoft Word into a Gundam robot and crushing your enemies. This exaggeration is meant to convey more an impression of your comfort with the program than literal skills required for this level. Don't be dissuaded, however, if your skill-set really does approach this threshold.

    If you can do everything up to 3., they should find you something within a few days (also, don't be afraid of interviewing multiple agencies). If you have skills surpassing 3. by a wide margin, don't be surprised if they talk to you about immediate opportunities.

    Hope that helps.

    I know that todaysstaffing.com, which last I knew had a location in Orlando, had an on-line testing process for pre-screening purposes, if you wanted to try that.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    The major question I have, is that if you are going to be attending a university / community college, how many hours will you be working a week? If you're serious about school there is usually a never ending well of loans and scholarships out there. My advice is if you can, focus on school as much as you can and get your degree, use loans / scholarships to take care of your expenses.

    If you're just going to go to college as a so so thing you could look into on campus employment. For someone with your technical knowledge there could be a lot of available work in various computer labs. While not the most glamorous positions available, you would be able to stay on campus and use that time for studying.

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  • MuragoMurago Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    The major question I have, is that if you are going to be attending a university / community college, how many hours will you be working a week? If you're serious about school there is usually a never ending well of loans and scholarships out there. My advice is if you can, focus on school as much as you can and get your degree, use loans / scholarships to take care of your expenses.

    If you're just going to go to college as a so so thing you could look into on campus employment. For someone with your technical knowledge there could be a lot of available work in various computer labs. While not the most glamorous positions available, you would be able to stay on campus and use that time for studying.

    40 hours a week for sure. Right now i'm full time, and i take 3 night classes that i pay for. I choose not to have my classes paid for by my employer. Last semester, i would work M W F S SU and go to four 1.5 hour classes on T and Th. I basically had no "day off", but it really doesn't bug me. I appreciate the out of box thinking though. I haven't thought about a job on campus. However, i wont' be going to school this fall, so it doesn't coincide with my plans. Again, School isn't the issue -- the decent paying job is.

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Actually, if your campus is anything like mine there will be a computer store in which you can work as a sales rep, or a general tech guy/girl. There are all kinds of jobs, in the Library or in a science building for IT. You should apply for some of these jobs, as they seem to be around the area of what you're looking for and Universities/colleges pay fairly well.

    Oh and these jobs are open to professionals, not just students, so it really can be more of a full time job than what the work/study program offers.

    And, why do you need a house?

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Well, I'll try to answer what I can here.
    What does a person who doesn't have a degree yet do for a living to make a decent wage?
    It all depends on what you're capable of. I'm 27 and no degree, I've been making upwards of $30k/yr since I was 20 and am at about $50k and rising now. For me this has been through IT work, starting as a lowly phone tech support peon at Capital One (taking internal tech support calls) and busting my ass until I worked my way into jr-mid level developer position.
    How soon should i start sending out apps and resumes?
    asap. I've had jobs that have taken as long as 2 months to get everything settled, so start as soon as you can.
    What should i expect in pay?
    Like the first answer, it all depends on the job itself. I'll semi-answer this in the next question.
    Any suggestions for employment that might be interesting and are outside of the realm of sales? I'm not into manual labor or food service. Well, at least not waiting tables or cooking.
    There's always tech support if you've got even just the most basic of computer skills (ie. can turn on a computer and fire up word without asking for help)... back when I did it pay usually started around $15/hr for that. I believe it's dropped at a lot of places locally but I've also seen offers that were up over $20/hr.

    There's a type of telemarketing that is not cold calling. I did it in highschool and was making around $10/hr. Basically, the company I worked for (Ruffalo-Cody... now part of McLeodUSA) had contracts with university alumni associations, archdiocese for some catholic churches, etc. These places all did fund raisers every year that the members knew they would be receiving a call (and so far fewer were rude or pissed off as they were expecting it, whether they donated or not) and we would make those calls to get the donations.

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  • MuragoMurago Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    TheLong wrote: »
    And, why do you need a house?

    A house would provide a garage. And a garage that can be sound proofed is top priority for an aspiring band. Which is again, my #1 reason for moving to a big city. To pursue a music career.

    I'll definetly start putting out apps asap since its been suggested. I just figure most employers might want someone immediatly, as that has been my past experience. I've never thought about an tech support position, b/c i don't have that C++ title. But if you think a decent knowledge in PC mechanics is enough to get things rolling, i'll look into it.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Murago wrote: »
    TheLong wrote: »
    And, why do you need a house?

    A house would provide a garage. And a garage that can be sound proofed is top priority for an aspiring band. Which is again, my #1 reason for moving to a big city. To pursue a music career.

    I'll definetly start putting out apps asap since its been suggested. I just figure most employers might want someone immediatly, as that has been my past experience. I've never thought about an tech support position, b/c i don't have that C++ title. But if you think a decent knowledge in PC mechanics is enough to get things rolling, i'll look into it.
    Trust me, for tech support they don't want developers. They want some noob to IT that they can easily train to their way of doing things and who isn't going to get offered a higher paying, less frustrating, and more interesting job a month down the road.

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