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I actually does surprise me a bit. Just on my Facebook last night I noticed a few people asking for opinions on whether to buy it and everyone seemed to be pretty down on Ghosts and saying to flip to Battlefield this year. Anecdotal I realize, but word of mouth outside of dedicated gaming sites saying that Ghosts is disappointing can't bode well for them.
Note the first line does say "sold more into retail" which does sound a bit like a shipped statistic rather than a sold statistic.
SANTA MONICA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Activision Publishing, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Activision Blizzard, Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI), announced today that the company sold more than $1 billion of Call of Duty®: Ghosts into retail stores worldwide as of day one.
"Call of Duty is by far the largest console franchise of this generation," said Bobby Kotick, CEO of Activision Blizzard. "More people have played Call of Duty this year than ever before, logging four billion hours of gameplay. And in the last 12 months, Call of Duty®: Black Ops II, including its digital content, generated more revenues than any other console game ever has in a single year. Although it is too early to assess sell-through for Call of Duty: Ghosts, it's launching at a time when the franchise has never been more popular."
Millions of people are already playing Call of Duty: Ghosts online. Since its release yesterday, Call of Duty: Ghosts has moved to the #1 spot as the most played game on Xbox Live, according to Microsoft. Additionally, Activision confirmed that on the Xbox 360 videogames and entertainment system from Microsoft, average player sessions for Ghosts have been longer than either Black Ops II or Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® 3, during the same time period.
Call of Duty: Ghosts launched at 15,000 midnight openings around the world. Fans around the world shared their excitement in social media, with Call of Duty-related terms trending an astounding 20 times globally on Twitter in the last 24 hours.
"Ghosts is an amazing game which ushers in the next generation of Call of Duty. The team at Infinity Ward has delivered yet another epic thrill ride in the campaign, and what I think is our best multiplayer game yet," said Eric Hirshberg, CEO of Activision Publishing. "This is the must have launch title for the next generation of consoles, and we expect Call of Duty: Ghosts to be the most successful launch title for the Xbox One and PS4 by a wide margin. In fact, according to GameStop, Call of Duty: Ghosts is their most pre-reserved next gen title."
Anyone surprised? Funny I heard that the lines up for this games at midnight sales were solely lacking in customers.
Carefully worded press release is carefully worded. Release actual sales figures please. Oh, and then development costs too, just for kicks, because shit like this must have saved a fortune, right?
Anyone who uses Steam's Big Picture Mode is already intimately acquainted with SteamOS, as they're very similar. SteamOS looks and acts like Big Picture Mode, except it's the basis for the entire hardware system. It's controller-friendly and easy to navigate. The same Steam splash page washes across the screen when it launches, and the same tile-based layout of games and the Steam store are visible at launch. As promised, the OS is built on Linux (not based on Ubuntu, we're told, but entirely custom), though you'd never know it as the only interactive layer is all Steam.
That means it also has the limitations of Steam: SteamOS is not the replacement for Windows 8 you've been waiting for. Beyond basics like browsing the web, there's little in the way of standard OS functions. While Valve reps showed off slides of the box's vanity shots using a Windows PC, I asked how I'd view such shots from within SteamOS -- the answer is that there's no real way to do so, as there's no file browsing system or image viewing application. While these limitations may not affect the vast majority of Steam Machine buyers (who are essentially buying a game console), it certainly impacts folks who are looking at Steam Machines as a replacement for their standard PC. Make no mistake: Steam Machines are PCs posing as game consoles, which comes with both positives and negatives.
This is the most unintentionally hilarious piece of news. Newel has whined about Windows 8 pushing the MS Store to the front of the line, obfuscating but not preventing access to third party distribution so MS' store gets the sale and MS gets the 30% cut.
Valve releases hardware with an OS that boots directly to their store front and can not install any third party distribution services.
The worst part of this news is by far the news that Eidos is being relegated to online games. I can't wait for the online only Tomb Raider MOBA coming winter 2014!
Anyone who uses Steam's Big Picture Mode is already intimately acquainted with SteamOS, as they're very similar. SteamOS looks and acts like Big Picture Mode, except it's the basis for the entire hardware system. It's controller-friendly and easy to navigate. The same Steam splash page washes across the screen when it launches, and the same tile-based layout of games and the Steam store are visible at launch. As promised, the OS is built on Linux (not based on Ubuntu, we're told, but entirely custom), though you'd never know it as the only interactive layer is all Steam.
That means it also has the limitations of Steam: SteamOS is not the replacement for Windows 8 you've been waiting for. Beyond basics like browsing the web, there's little in the way of standard OS functions. While Valve reps showed off slides of the box's vanity shots using a Windows PC, I asked how I'd view such shots from within SteamOS -- the answer is that there's no real way to do so, as there's no file browsing system or image viewing application. While these limitations may not affect the vast majority of Steam Machine buyers (who are essentially buying a game console), it certainly impacts folks who are looking at Steam Machines as a replacement for their standard PC. Make no mistake: Steam Machines are PCs posing as game consoles, which comes with both positives and negatives.
This is the most unintentionally hilarious piece of news. Newel has whined about Windows 8 pushing the MS Store to the front of the line, obfuscating but not preventing access to third party distribution so MS' store gets the sale and MS gets the 30% cut.
Valve releases hardware with an OS that boots directly to their store front and can not install any third party distribution services.
Where's the surprise? they literally said they were doing this, up front, in interviews. There's no image viewing capabilities, because the screenshots you take in game are visible in steam. Want pictures of cats? use the built in browser. Wheres the issue? Did you expect for them to allow Origin on their linux platform? Why would they? because they are nice?
Why do they need anything but a dedicated consoles functionality? The thing is 50% centered around being on your TV, and you having a gaming pc to stream to it.
The worst part of this news is by far the news that Eidos is being relegated to online games. I can't wait for the online only Tomb Raider MOBA coming winter 2014!
You joke, but Eidos have a chunky stable of characters that they can draw from if they ever want to make a MOBA full of recognized names.
Where's the surprise? they literally said they were doing this, up front, in interviews. There's no image viewing capabilities, because the screenshots you take in game are visible in steam. Want pictures of cats? use the built in browser. Wheres the issue? Did you expect for them to allow Origin on their linux platform? Why would they? because they are nice?
Why do they need anything but a dedicated consoles functionality? The thing is 50% centered around being on your TV, and you having a gaming pc to stream to it.
Do you not recall the narrative built by the likes of Newel and the Minecraft guy about how Windows 8 is awful because it shows preference for MS' own store front? To make that hullabaloo and then release a box with an OS that boots directly into your own store front is, like I said, unintentionally hilarious.
I could care less about what it does. It's smart business and I'm game. I just think Newel was being dramatic and dishonest with how he feels about walled garden ecosystems. He obviously doesn't have a problem with them.
Nice hold for the Vita, good job there.
Pokémon stays #1
Nice bump for the WiiU...now can it maintain it?
Good hold for Vita indeed. Nice to see Danganronpa 1+2 broke 100,000 by at least one metric. Great week for Wii U, but the real test is coming up in the other markets.
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That's funny, but we're talking 18 seconds of content. Unless there's a whole lot more of this going on, I wouldn't get too bent out of shape over it.
I think it goes beyond mere 'funny' into the realms of 'lazy' and 'sloppy' it would be 'funny' if the scene was similar but animated differently, but this clearly isn't... this is just a straight up texture swap.
I haven't played ghosts yet so don't have the full context of this scene, maybe they were going for a 'homage' but you shouldn't just straight up rip animations for a homage.
edit: Although i guess thats going off-topic, so i'll throw in a question: Have we got solid numbers on pokemon x/y sales? along with 3ds/bundle sales aswell? my weak google-fu found old info.
Wow, Ghosts just came out yesterday and we're already posting videos showing the ending in threads that aren't even anything to do with it?
What I'm dickishly saying is that it might be a courtesy to spoiler some of that stuff, for the people who've not finished it yet.
Apologies. Editing my post, hadn't realised that was the ending.
Sorry man, didn't mean to sound like such a douche!
That isn't the ending of Ghosts from what I've seen. That looks like something during the game where they reused the mocap from the end of MW2. We're so far past the statute of limitations on MW2 spoilers. Also, SteamOS not allowing anything else is pretty funny, because yeah, that was the crux of their argument against Windows 8, that it was going to shut everyone else out. It's funny because I was never going to buy a steam machine, but yeah.
I suppose that's the $64,000 question. Can I install any PC game bought from anywhere onto the Steambox, or am I solely restricted to using Steam's own store?
Because if it's the latter... they're hypocrites. The most pathetic kind of hypocrites, because while they're ablooing about Windows 8 and how it might turn into a walled garden (and remember, it so totally is not one right now), here they are quite obviously creating their own walled garden.
It probably is the best and most successful move for them to make. It also means I'll start making a "jerk off" motion whenever I hear them crying about W8 from now on.
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The other side of it is: isn't the message a lot simpler when you're able to advertise it as "a console that plays some of your Steam games"?
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Why would I buy another console/PC thing when it can't even play all my games? I've already got a PC that can play literally everything.
So don't buy one.
Meanwhile, other people who aren't PC nerds that post on video game forums will be an adequate consumer. :P
Which would be awesome if Steambox solved the eternal PC hardware problem. (That is, making sure people didn't have to research which one of the 47 video cards with names like cats on keyboards they would need to run the games they want.)
Unfortunately they didn't.
Why the crap did I ever make my original name "cloudeagle?"
I suppose that's the $64,000 question. Can I install any PC game bought from anywhere onto the Steambox, or am I solely restricted to using Steam's own store?
Because if it's the latter... they're hypocrites. The most pathetic kind of hypocrites, because while they're ablooing about Windows 8 and how it might turn into a walled garden (and remember, it so totally is not one right now), here they are quite obviously creating their own walled garden.
It probably is the best and most successful move for them to make. It also means I'll start making a "jerk off" motion whenever I hear them crying about W8 from now on.
Yeah, the business decision makes perfect sense. I'll buy a Steam Box. It's just the drama that led up to it was just silliness.
I suppose that's the $64,000 question. Can I install any PC game bought from anywhere onto the Steambox, or am I solely restricted to using Steam's own store?
Because if it's the latter... they're hypocrites. The most pathetic kind of hypocrites, because while they're ablooing about Windows 8 and how it might turn into a walled garden (and remember, it so totally is not one right now), here they are quite obviously creating their own walled garden.
It probably is the best and most successful move for them to make. It also means I'll start making a "jerk off" motion whenever I hear them crying about W8 from now on.
Unless they become a monopoly, they are just competing with other OS providers. Also, Steam will not stop supporting other platforms.
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You can buy games from other services (GreenMan, Humble Bundle) and get Steam keys. I'm still waiting to see what larger studios are going to commit to *nix versions and if there's any real performance gain.
Sony just announced the PS3 has sold 80 million.
Microsoft announced the 360 sold 80 million last month.
Last we heard Nintendo said the Wii has sold a measly 100 million.
Sony just announced the PS3 has sold 80 million.
Microsoft announced the 360 sold 80 million last month.
Last we heard Nintendo said the Wii has sold a measly 100 million.
Actually a very interesting interview about CoD:Ghosts and sequels and then the talk turns to console differences and things get awkward.
Just to give this a bit of context, the Metro is one of the UK's highest circulation newspapers. They do about 1.5 million physical copies a day, I believe.
That explains why the journalist is actually asking real questions.
Actually Metro as a whole is garbage, it's a free newspaper that mainly just trots out press releases. The reason the video game section is so good is because it used to be Gamecentral, run by David Jenkins who is one of the best video games journalists going. Gamecentral ran on teletext for years. When teletext got shutdown Metro picked it up and the GC community moved over to their website.
I'd strongly recommend checking out the GameCentral area on the Metro website as it has loads of great content that isn't published in the physical paper: http://metro.co.uk/ents-tech/gaming/
Actually a very interesting interview about CoD:Ghosts and sequels and then the talk turns to console differences and things get awkward.
Just to give this a bit of context, the Metro is one of the UK's highest circulation newspapers. They do about 1.5 million physical copies a day, I believe.
That explains why the journalist is actually asking real questions.
Wow. Yeah, that was an impressive interview. More of that, please.
Sony just announced the PS3 has sold 80 million.
Microsoft announced the 360 sold 80 million last month.
Last we heard Nintendo said the Wii has sold a measly 100 million.
And yet, I've still seen a number of users internet-wide that claim that the Wii was a failure.
So remind yourself that the opinions of those people don't actually matter at all in the grand scheme of things, or even the narrower scheme of console sales performance. Their insistence that it 'failed' relative to anything hasn't had one whit of an effect on Nintendo's bank balance.
While we're on the subject of Nintendo, their sudden yanking of Swapnote from the 3DS now makes sense:
Japanese newspaper Mainichi reports that charges for child pornography have also been filed against another man, aged 44, who had allegedly two girls—then aged 11 to 12—send nude photos through SwapNote, or "Itsu no Ma ni Koukan Nikki" (いつの間に交換日記) as it's called in Japan. This man, a resident of Aichi Prefecture, has allegedly confessed to the acts.
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According to news site Yomiuri Online, two other men have been arrested for allegedly performing "improper acts" in hotel rooms with a 12 year-old girl on multiple occasions earlier this year. The girl met both men—one is a 49 year-old Yokohama resident and the other is a 36 year-old Chiba resident—through her 3DS. Yomiuri Online doesn't specifically mention SwapNote and says that the girl used the 3DS's online function to access an online dating site. A Mainichi News report, however, does mention SwapNote.
In the above articles, both Yomiuri and Mainichi note that parents had initially turned off the 3DS's internet function, but the children had turned it back on.
Uh, what are you guys talking about? Steamboxes will let you do whatever you want with them. the SteamOS does what it needs to do. You can put Origin on there, you just need a dual boot of Windows. Or if they release a Linux version of it, install another boot of LinuxOS. They've been pretty upfront that this is a computer just like any other. They just want the person buying it to have an upfront simple interface to use games the same way you would on a console. But there's nothing stopping you from putting Windows on it if you want.
Will I be able to build my own box to run SteamOS?
Yes.
Can I hack this box? Run another OS? Change the hardware? Install my own software? Use it to build a robot?
Sure.
Can I download the OS to try it out?
You will be able to download it (including the source code, if you're into that) but not yet.
Besides, where are people getting the idea that this is supposed to be competitive with windows?
Yeah its called steam 'OS' but complaining about hypocrisy of a walled garden on your main desktop vs a walled garden on what is basically supposed to be a console+roku for games is really stretching it.
Its not hypocrisy to think something is not ok in one instance and ok in a different case.
The other side of it is: isn't the message a lot simpler when you're able to advertise it as "a console that plays some of your Steam games"?
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Why would I buy another console/PC thing when it can't even play all my games? I've already got a PC that can play literally everything.
So don't buy one.
Meanwhile, other people who aren't PC nerds that post on video game forums will be an adequate consumer. :P
And why would they buy one? The xbone and ps4 will play all their games, while this one only plays a select handful.
Are you serious?
Every hardware that comes out doesn't launch with its full software suite from the future available through some black magic voodoo. If anything it's arguable that the Steambox's launch list will be bigger than any other console prior to it. And like all consoles, it'll grow.
The other side of it is: isn't the message a lot simpler when you're able to advertise it as "a console that plays some of your Steam games"?
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Why would I buy another console/PC thing when it can't even play all my games? I've already got a PC that can play literally everything.
So don't buy one.
Meanwhile, other people who aren't PC nerds that post on video game forums will be an adequate consumer. :P
And why would they buy one? The xbone and ps4 will play all their games, while this one only plays a select handful.
Are you serious?
Every hardware that comes out doesn't launch with its full software suite from the future available through some black magic voodoo. If anything it's arguable that the Steambox's launch list will be bigger than any other console prior to it. And like all consoles, it'll grow.
Who's talking about future games? I own games on Steam now. Can or can not the SteamOS play all of them?
The other side of it is: isn't the message a lot simpler when you're able to advertise it as "a console that plays some of your Steam games"?
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Why would I buy another console/PC thing when it can't even play all my games? I've already got a PC that can play literally everything.
So don't buy one.
Meanwhile, other people who aren't PC nerds that post on video game forums will be an adequate consumer. :P
And why would they buy one? The xbone and ps4 will play all their games, while this one only plays a select handful.
Are you serious?
Every hardware that comes out doesn't launch with its full software suite from the future available through some black magic voodoo. If anything it's arguable that the Steambox's launch list will be bigger than any other console prior to it. And like all consoles, it'll grow.
Plus can't you locally stream any game from your desktop to your steambox hooked up to your tv?
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Note the first line does say "sold more into retail" which does sound a bit like a shipped statistic rather than a sold statistic.
Carefully worded press release is carefully worded. Release actual sales figures please. Oh, and then development costs too, just for kicks, because shit like this must have saved a fortune, right?
Edit: Ending spoiler warning on that link.
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hahaha holy shit
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You're missing the point: it's pretty bold to boast about profits when your product is full of obviously cut corners.
Edit: and boast about profits in a misleading way, no less.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
RIP Square Enix. They had a good run.
This is the most unintentionally hilarious piece of news. Newel has whined about Windows 8 pushing the MS Store to the front of the line, obfuscating but not preventing access to third party distribution so MS' store gets the sale and MS gets the 30% cut.
Valve releases hardware with an OS that boots directly to their store front and can not install any third party distribution services.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
I'm sure they want you to use the Steam Workshop.
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Apologies. Editing my post, hadn't realised that was the ending.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
The worst part of this news is by far the news that Eidos is being relegated to online games. I can't wait for the online only Tomb Raider MOBA coming winter 2014!
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Where's the surprise? they literally said they were doing this, up front, in interviews. There's no image viewing capabilities, because the screenshots you take in game are visible in steam. Want pictures of cats? use the built in browser. Wheres the issue? Did you expect for them to allow Origin on their linux platform? Why would they? because they are nice?
Why do they need anything but a dedicated consoles functionality? The thing is 50% centered around being on your TV, and you having a gaming pc to stream to it.
Sorry man, didn't mean to sound like such a douche!
No sweat :P you made the right call.
You joke, but Eidos have a chunky stable of characters that they can draw from if they ever want to make a MOBA full of recognized names.
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Do you not recall the narrative built by the likes of Newel and the Minecraft guy about how Windows 8 is awful because it shows preference for MS' own store front? To make that hullabaloo and then release a box with an OS that boots directly into your own store front is, like I said, unintentionally hilarious.
I could care less about what it does. It's smart business and I'm game. I just think Newel was being dramatic and dishonest with how he feels about walled garden ecosystems. He obviously doesn't have a problem with them.
Good hold for Vita indeed. Nice to see Danganronpa 1+2 broke 100,000 by at least one metric. Great week for Wii U, but the real test is coming up in the other markets.
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I think it goes beyond mere 'funny' into the realms of 'lazy' and 'sloppy' it would be 'funny' if the scene was similar but animated differently, but this clearly isn't... this is just a straight up texture swap.
I haven't played ghosts yet so don't have the full context of this scene, maybe they were going for a 'homage' but you shouldn't just straight up rip animations for a homage.
edit: Although i guess thats going off-topic, so i'll throw in a question: Have we got solid numbers on pokemon x/y sales? along with 3ds/bundle sales aswell? my weak google-fu found old info.
That isn't the ending of Ghosts from what I've seen. That looks like something during the game where they reused the mocap from the end of MW2. We're so far past the statute of limitations on MW2 spoilers. Also, SteamOS not allowing anything else is pretty funny, because yeah, that was the crux of their argument against Windows 8, that it was going to shut everyone else out. It's funny because I was never going to buy a steam machine, but yeah.
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Because if it's the latter... they're hypocrites. The most pathetic kind of hypocrites, because while they're ablooing about Windows 8 and how it might turn into a walled garden (and remember, it so totally is not one right now), here they are quite obviously creating their own walled garden.
It probably is the best and most successful move for them to make. It also means I'll start making a "jerk off" motion whenever I hear them crying about W8 from now on.
Which would be awesome if Steambox solved the eternal PC hardware problem. (That is, making sure people didn't have to research which one of the 47 video cards with names like cats on keyboards they would need to run the games they want.)
Unfortunately they didn't.
Yeah, the business decision makes perfect sense. I'll buy a Steam Box. It's just the drama that led up to it was just silliness.
Unless they become a monopoly, they are just competing with other OS providers. Also, Steam will not stop supporting other platforms.
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Sony just announced the PS3 has sold 80 million.
Microsoft announced the 360 sold 80 million last month.
Last we heard Nintendo said the Wii has sold a measly 100 million.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/06/ps3-sells-over-80-million-units-with-4332-games-released
And yet, I've still seen a number of users internet-wide that claim that the Wii was a failure.
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Actually Metro as a whole is garbage, it's a free newspaper that mainly just trots out press releases. The reason the video game section is so good is because it used to be Gamecentral, run by David Jenkins who is one of the best video games journalists going. Gamecentral ran on teletext for years. When teletext got shutdown Metro picked it up and the GC community moved over to their website.
I'd strongly recommend checking out the GameCentral area on the Metro website as it has loads of great content that isn't published in the physical paper: http://metro.co.uk/ents-tech/gaming/
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Wow. Yeah, that was an impressive interview. More of that, please.
So remind yourself that the opinions of those people don't actually matter at all in the grand scheme of things, or even the narrower scheme of console sales performance. Their insistence that it 'failed' relative to anything hasn't had one whit of an effect on Nintendo's bank balance.
http://kotaku.com/child-predators-were-using-nintendos-swapnote-service-1459304126
Goddammit.
Yeah its called steam 'OS' but complaining about hypocrisy of a walled garden on your main desktop vs a walled garden on what is basically supposed to be a console+roku for games is really stretching it.
Its not hypocrisy to think something is not ok in one instance and ok in a different case.
Are you serious?
Every hardware that comes out doesn't launch with its full software suite from the future available through some black magic voodoo. If anything it's arguable that the Steambox's launch list will be bigger than any other console prior to it. And like all consoles, it'll grow.
Who's talking about future games? I own games on Steam now. Can or can not the SteamOS play all of them?
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Plus can't you locally stream any game from your desktop to your steambox hooked up to your tv?
Wow, I wonder how that's going to affect Tomb Raider and Deus Ex and Thief, three of the biggest names in single player experiences.
Square is fucking retarded.