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iTunes is kind of being a dick.
Rhino
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I've been using iTunes for a few years now... different versions on different computers and I realized, that it sucks so fucking bad. It's some of the worst software I've ever used and want to get away from it.
Is there any iTunes replacements for Windows?
Basically I have "Big Directory of mp3s" and I have "Shitty ass iPod that I never should of bought" and I want to drag mp3s to my iPod directory and I want it to work. Is that too much to ask?
I dont' want iTunes spamming me, locking up or deleting my mp3s. I just want "those mp3s" over "here"... and by "here", I mean my iPod. I don't want apple to "manage" my mp3s cause they fuck it up just like they've fucked up anything remotely related to "mp3" players.
God, I hate apple so much.
by the way, anyone want to buy an ipod?
Is there any iTunes replacements for Windows?
Basically I have "Big Directory of mp3s" and I have "Shitty ass iPod that I never should of bought" and I want to drag mp3s to my iPod directory and I want it to work. Is that too much to ask?
I dont' want iTunes spamming me, locking up or deleting my mp3s. I just want "those mp3s" over "here"... and by "here", I mean my iPod. I don't want apple to "manage" my mp3s cause they fuck it up just like they've fucked up anything remotely related to "mp3" players.
God, I hate apple so much.
by the way, anyone want to buy an ipod?
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I have a directory that is 55 Gigs and is full of MP3s.
I have a 60 gig iPod.
I want to COPY the mp3s to the ipod.
I don't want spam from the iTunes Store
I don't want iTunes to Lock up/Freeze.
I don't want iTunes to Crash.
I don't want iTunes to take up 426 megs of RAM
I don't want iTunes to delete my mp3s again.
I don't want iTunes to "Manage" my mp3s, they are already neatly organized in folder.
I just want iTunes to Copy mp3s from hardrive to ipod.
I just want to copy mp3s from Point A to Point B.
Point A being Hard drive, point B being my iPod.
You don't want iTunes, you want something like ephpod.
Word of warning, pretty much any mp3 player will use an organization system to group mp3s together based on their ID3 tags, so simply getting another mp3 player won't really help. You could, of course, fix the problem the hard way and simply import tracks in, album by album, and fix their ID3 tags. Not only would iTunes suddenly become a drastically more useful application (smart playlists are awesome, but dependent on good ID3 tags), but your 55gb collection will be essentially future proof for any other application or mp3 player you acquire in the future.
iTunes makes it quite easy to edit ID3 tags for groups of files at a time, displaying shared information and hiding information that's different. So you can set the genre for an entire artist without worrying about screwing up the album or year information.
I love iTunes because of the organizational control it gives me over my 32GB music library.
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Basically, the only thing MMonkey has that you might be looking for is that it is remotely similar in appearance to iTunes.
That said, it sounds like you don't much care about playlists. If you do, and I'm misreading you here, then iTunes really does have some powerful capabilities thanks to its focus on using metadata, like "playlists in which this song can be found". Since you don't, however, I've heard good things about Anapod Explorer's drag-and-drop capabilities. I've never heard anything about XPlay, but you might want to give that one a try if Anapod doesn't work out.
Far as getting rid of iTunes, I think I got it.
Found this:
http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal/28877
http://slowass.net/~scott/make_itunesdb.pl.txt
Perl script:
23.6 KB
iTunes:
48.9 MB
I use a custom script to copy over my mp3 directory which is about 4 times as fast as itunes cause it's not doing stupid stuff, only coping and only copies data that has changed ans also allows "restartable" copies.
Then I rebuild database via script and it's good to go.
Until you're willing to invest alittle to learn about a software app, I can't really recommend too much.
trust me, I've spent hours struggling with it.
Tell me... how can I "learn" to use iTunes so that it doesn't take 1/2 gig of RAM (almost 500 megs).
iPod is unplugged.
I start iTunes
It shoots up to 475-500 Megs of VM
That is even before I plug my iPod in. Just starting iTunes.
Please let me what I'm doing wrong.
Also it randomly locks up, freezes or crashes. I would love to "learn" how to make iTunes not crash or freeze... because obviously if an application crashes it's the users fault, right? and not bad programming.
I plug in my iPod and iTunes freeze (non-responsive). Where in the user manual does it say how to make iTunes freeze less? Cause the manual I got says "plug in iPod"... which I do... but it never said anything about the application freezing/locking up.
EDIT:
It seems other people are having problems figuring out how to use iTunes also:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=15906&Page=1&pagePos=1
Because, obviously - all those "bugs" are really just user errors - you know, people that didn't take the time to invest in learning how to use it.
a) I found my answer
b) it's not itunes
c) I'm sick of the apple fanboys and their shitty software.
d) stop PMing me!
thanks
I asked for an iTunes replacement and for those that helped and offered links, then please accept my thanks. I truly appreciate the help. Thanks guys. Apologizes if I came off as a dick about it... but thanks for the links!
To everyone else that that was busy sucking apple's asshole... yea, I was kind of a cockhole to them.
If you'd bother to get past the Apple logo and learn the software (and tune up your computer) you wouldn't be in this mess.
That is way too much. You are doing something wrong.
Yes Thanks.
I wrote my own script and am using it with that perl script. The entire thing runs under 1 meg of RAM and is 4 times as quick as iTunes when coping over... oh and it doesn't lock up... but I'll check into "tune[ing] up my computer" thing you speak of.
thanks.
I'll endeavor to be more helpful now. The combination of iTunes preferences I used to use to make it leave my music collection the hell alone is turning off "Keep iTunes folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes folder when importing". That leaves you free to use whatever cd-ripping software you want, and you can still drag and and drop files into iTunes (or file->import) and it won't move or rename anything- although if whatever you use to rip CDs doesn't tag them correctly the song names and whatnot will be all jacked. Old versions of Audiograbber were famous for this; I'm assuming that they've fixed it in this age of high technology. The last time I looked at it was sometime around 1999.
Buying stuff off of the music store will still store it with Apple's wacky naming convention though, which is why I gave in and let it do all of my mp3 management and CD importing now (although I can't even remember the last time I bought a CD). If you're not using the music store, though, there's really nothing iTunes can do for you that ephpod + winamp (my old standby for years) can't.
For tag management, you could give Magic MP3 a try. I have a friend who swears by it.
edit: you're not using Vista, are you? iTunes is totally fucked under Vista.
Wouldn't know, this has happened maybe 2 or 3 three times on my PC, and generally when I was way overextending system resources. Maybe you're overextending your system resources? You're not offering much info here.
Since I don't know the specifics of your system, I can't really say except that (a) you calling me a fanboy is pretty stupid and (b) since I've never once had any of the problems you're describing, I don't see how it's unreasonable to assume that it might be a problem on your end, which you've supplied precious little info about except for to say that you dislike iTunes.
So anyway you're a moron.
You don't understand, we're not on the same page here. Let me explain:
I don't like iTunes. Even if it worked perfectly (which it doesn't), I still won't want to use it. It's personal preference. I'm not going to fix something I'm not going to use.
end of story. I don't care if it works for you... I don't care if you think it's the best thing since slide bread. Good for you. enjoy your iTunes. I'm happy for you... but the purpose of this thread though wasn't to stroke off and have a circle jerk on how good iTunes is or how to fix iTunes... as stated in the orignal post:
"Is there any iTunes replacements for Windows? "
I wanted a replacement for iTunes. I found one. Problem solved. Thread closed as far as I'm concerned.
If you want to talk about your joy with iTunes or write a trouble shooting guide to iTunes, then be my guest, have fun with all of that- but far as I'm concerned iTunes is dead to me.
thanks to anyone that helped or offered suggestions.
Could someone please close or lock this thread please?
I think this thread has moved beyond the point of being constructive and I apologize for any part I had in that .
Exactly. You are biased against iTunes, and it is preventing you from seeing reason. It is preventing you from accepting the fact that the problem is with you, not with iTunes. Everyone else here has had nothing but pleasant experiences with it.
I don't give a rat's ass what music software (or script) you use. Just don't go dissing one of the (if not the) best players in existence because you don't know how to use it (or because your setup fucking sucks).
We offered our help here. You refuse to make use of it. What you are doing here is being a tremendous dick. If you wanna use your scripts, do it. Nobody gives a damn.
tldr; fuck off
Not setting your preferences it ASKS you about? check.
Bitching about it and not letting anyone help you? check.
Congratulations, you're an ass.
thanks for playing.
ok fine. Please help me. I've searched the google for this, but turned up nothing. I've spent hours with iTunes, but obviously I must be dumb since I can't get this working.
I'm willing to let you help me.
Please tell me how to:
1: Disable the iTunes store and the "mini store". I don't like spam in my applications.
2: Make it use my windows theme instead of that weird "chrome" widget set it has.
3: What is it doing with my network? I've never used the iTunes store, all my music is from CD... why is it doing stuff with my network? How do I set it to stop doing that? (I take take another screen shot if you think I'm lying about it).
4: How do I transfer music from my iPod to my computer?
5: How do I run iTunes directly from my iPod and keep it settings across computers?
6: How do I get iTunes to play nice across 2 different computers with different music collections?
7: How do I organize by Directory name or file name instead of mp3 tags?
Seriously, I'm open to your help. Just let me know.
oh and this weird crashing.. freezing... what info you need? It happens on 2 differant computers. Just stops responding.
second, why the fuck do you care about themes. this is a real application not WMP. the chrome application frame is all you get. if your worried about clashing I do not think there is much i can do to help you.
third. Keep in mind iTunes uses the internet to connect to the itunes store and the CDDB (Compact Disc Database) as well as a bunch of free internet radio stations. You need to disable the network setting from itunes, again this can be found in preferences.
4,5,and, 6 are impssoible. in order to make record companies agree to sell msuic on iTunes, the made it so that when you connect an iPod to a computer, it is Wedded to it. if you connect it to another computer you will essentially wipe the pod (you will be given a choice to do it) and sync with the other machine. ther are also practical reason why this is good.
as for 7, this is where what you want and what itunes can give your are two different things apparently. You need to let itunes contact the CDDB and get the musics track names. you may have to manually rip the music all over again if you have been diclking around trying to make the application do something it was not designed to do.
What might be best for you is to unintall itunes, reinstall it, and start from scratch.
Step 1) rip music from the CD directly, do not try to transfer fronm another file in the hard drive. Let the application use your network to get track names
Step 2) Install iPod, name it, and let the pod sync with yourlibrary
step 3) disable network setting that get the itunes music store as your default screen, you obviously want your library. as for your ram application problem. i don't know what you do to that because when i use tunes, it uses only a few kilos
Oh god, all the CRAP I've tried to fix in freedb only to have it reverted by the next moron coming along.
Musicbrainz is the god damn civilization. Say it!
If you have it set to auto-download artwork for albums, that will cause network traffic. It also downloads stuff to show in the "mini store" pane (it might do that even if you have "show ministore" disabled?). Third, Itunes will "check for updates" regularly. Fourth, ever "subscribed" to a podcast? It'll check for updates on every one of those too, daily by default. Fifth, if you are ripping a CD using iTunes it may check CDDB for the information required to automatically fill out the ID3 tag information. Sixth, if you're sharing your iTunes library or have the "look for other shared libraries" setting turned on, the iTunes application will be using the network for those features as well.
They (the litigious motherfuckers at the RIAA) don't want us to do this and Apple is beholden to them so it is not a feature of iTunes. There are multiple third-party solutions though.
In theory, it should be possible to connect the iPod to your computer via USB and treat it as a storage device. If you can do this, then you can install software on it like iTunes (I'm only thinking of Windows, because on Macs it might be more difficult to override the default handling of the iPods). If you can install and run iTunes from it, then you could specify where to store the iTunes library, and specify the USB device (although consistent drive letters would be a problem across multiple machines). iTunes is not easily made portable, but you can do it with additional software: MojoPac. There's a better alternative for what you want though: YamiPod (can be run directly off your iPod). Alternatively, here's another setup for running a self-sustaining iPod.
Synching the iPod should update the playcount information for tracks you have in iTunes. With the reverse sync feature you can keep one iPod synched with an installation of iTunes on up to five different machines. With reverse sync your iPod can upload the iTMS tracks but if you want to upload regular non-DRM tracks from iPod to computer, see my answer to #4.
Choose "manually manage music" and it should work. See this guide. The iPod Shuffle may not support this feature. Users with a mix of Macs and PCs are also not able to use this feature -- it only works with systems of the same kind.
You can maintain one iTunes library accessed from multiple systems on a LAN.
You can also maintain multiple different iTunes libraries on one system.