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[MTG] Pack Rat Fever (BOTG Sealed League, see pg 20)

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Whatever man, get that payout

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    my opener was mountain, mountain, nykthos, boros charm

    what the fuck even went down that game

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Sick draws, I imagine

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    RW is what I'm having the most fun with currently. Good match ups against UW and Monoblack, which get better post sideboard, a ton of threats that demand a detention spere from UW that you can Wear/Tear or Glare of Heresy away.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Creatures - 20
    2 Kragma Warcaller
    4 Rageblood Shaman
    4 Boros Reckoner
    2 Fanatic of Mogis
    2 Mogis, God of Slaughter
    4 Ragemonger
    2 Underworld Cerberus

    Spells - 15
    4 Magma Jet
    2 Dreadbore
    4 Shock
    2 Drown in Sorrow
    1 Hero's Downfall
    2 Bile Blight

    Planeswalkers - 2
    2 Chandra, Pyromaster

    Land - 23
    2 Mutavault
    4 Blood Crypt
    8 Mountain
    7 Swamp
    2 Temple of Malice

    Okay, here's the second draft of minotaurs. As versatile as Hero's Downfall is at instant speed, I tried using it and it didn't work out due to my deck being so heavy in the 3-drop area. I also dropped Purphoros for Underworld Cerberus, just because it either a) gets through for 6 damage a turn no problem or b) dies and gives me all my dead minotaurs back.

    We'll see how it plays, but I like the concept so far and it absolutely has ruined some aggro decks I've played against. Control is a big problem right now, and I'm thinking about my sideboard being all answers for that.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    needs more progenitor mimic

    Actually I think it looks good but I also don't know stuff

    I wanna say find room for searing blood but I just really like the cut of searing blood's jib so I want to see it in all red decks

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    I really like Searing Blood as well, but this thing is already wiping boards that have two toughness anyway via Drown in Sorrow.

    If there was like, the RW burn deck, I'd be all in on Searing Blood

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    A potential sideboard might look something like this (in my head)
    3 Overgrown Tomb
    3 Stomping Ground
    2 Dark Betrayal
    3 Thoughtseize
    4 Golgari Charm

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Drop as Stomping and Charm for 2x Contaminated Ground to stop Nykthos?

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    TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    Control will lose to that DGM rare that makes both players discard their hands. Forget the name and can't look it up now but control will be in topdeck mode and you'll be out of cards by 6cmc anyway

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Sire of Insanity, that's probably a better sideboard plan than any of the cards i listed

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    So here's the list I'm going to start playing next Friday for FNM, standard Big Dumb GW
    Land
    4 Temple Garden
    4 Temple of Plenty
    2 Temple of Mystery
    1 Godless Shrine
    1 Overgrown Tomb
    6 Forest
    4 Plains
    2 Nykthos

    Mans
    4 Elvish Mystic
    4 Sylvan Caryatid
    4 Loxodon Smiter
    4 Courser of Kruphix
    3 Polukranos
    1 Trostani
    2 Nylea
    4 Arbor Colossus
    2 Karametra
    2 Primeval Bounty
    2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
    1 Deadbridge Chant

    Non-Mans
    3 Selesnya Charm

    Sideboard
    3 Revoke Existence
    3 Glare of Heresy
    3 Pithing Needle
    6 other things

    Thoughts? Questions? Concerns?

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Yeah, Cerberus has been excellent for me in the control matchups at just restocking my hand full of threats again. Him eating a Detention Sphere/Chained to the Rocks Is the worse case scenario, since you can't interact with either.

    You definately want to be running 2-3 copies of Slaughter Games in your board. It makes the UW match up a cakewalk since they are down to basically mill and Elspeth/Archangel of Thune as wincons now. Mutavaults aren't bad to deal with for your Minotaurs.

    Scrapping Elspeth kills their wincon then Supreme Verdict/Sphinx's Rev/Detention Sphere stops them messing with your board.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Oh man, I totally forgot about Slaughter Games. That's gonna be huge.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Slaughter games is the best for stopping control.

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    Panic ButtonPanic Button Robo-cannibal Registered User regular
    I kind of want to build Modern Vampires, because the art on Nocturnus is soooo cool. And I don't think I necessarily need Lilianas for a more aggressive type deck, which knocks a bazillion dollars off the price.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    So I stumbled across a Mind Seize for MSRP at Target, and miracle of miracles, it hadn't been opened, stripped of value, and then returned full of commons and Yugi-oh cards.

    Is there any reason for me to keep the True-Name Nemesis rather than cashing it in? I don't play Vintage/Legacy, and it's definitely not going in my cube.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    So I stumbled across a Mind Seize for MSRP at Target, and miracle of miracles, it hadn't been opened, stripped of value, and then returned full of commons and Yugi-oh cards.

    Is there any reason for me to keep the True-Name Nemesis rather than cashing it in? I don't play Vintage/Legacy, and it's definitely not going in my cube.

    Not really.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    True-Name Nemesis will never drop in value. It was a mistake to print it in the first place, so they won't reprint it again. Maybe in an FTV - Commander or something years down the line, but even that wouldn't lower its price. I've got my playset and I won't get rid of them until they top $80. I'm actually debating getting another 4 for added value.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    If it was a mistake to print they'll ban it. If it wasn't, it could easily show up in a future supplemental product.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    The Betman wrote: »
    Creatures - 20
    2 Kragma Warcaller
    4 Rageblood Shaman
    4 Boros Reckoner
    2 Fanatic of Mogis
    2 Mogis, God of Slaughter
    4 Ragemonger
    2 Underworld Cerberus

    Spells - 15
    4 Magma Jet
    2 Dreadbore
    4 Shock
    2 Drown in Sorrow
    1 Hero's Downfall
    2 Bile Blight

    Planeswalkers - 2
    2 Chandra, Pyromaster

    Land - 23
    2 Mutavault
    4 Blood Crypt
    8 Mountain
    7 Swamp
    2 Temple of Malice

    Okay, here's the second draft of minotaurs. As versatile as Hero's Downfall is at instant speed, I tried using it and it didn't work out due to my deck being so heavy in the 3-drop area. I also dropped Purphoros for Underworld Cerberus, just because it either a) gets through for 6 damage a turn no problem or b) dies and gives me all my dead minotaurs back.

    We'll see how it plays, but I like the concept so far and it absolutely has ruined some aggro decks I've played against. Control is a big problem right now, and I'm thinking about my sideboard being all answers for that.

    honest question, is there a reason we arent playing the 1R 2/3 and the full set of warcallers/fanatics and some one drops even though they arent on tribe like cackler and the satyr

    20 creatures is really low and only 12 of them are actually minotaurs anyway. a lot of those spells probably belong sideboard

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    My favorite thing to do to Pack Rat is Detention Sphere it or Supreme Verdict it...


    ...is what I'd say if I played UW.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    x4 sphere is like my removal of choice in the u/w devotion build I'll have post botg for that exact reason

    because half my store is playing the monoB deck now

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    APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    If anyone hasn't watched the Semifinals of GP Vancouver yet, Game 1 is one of the awesomest things I've ever seen.

    Mono black vs UW Control. It's epic
    At one point Monoblack had 30-something life and Control had like 5. MonoB had THREE Underworld Connections in play. Control never Rev'ed past that point

    And Control WON.

    Elspeth Ultimated and LIVED.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    oh god prerelease tomorrow

    I did midnight for all of RTR and for theros

    fuck I'm probably gonna midnight again this time too

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i'm doing a 9 am prerelease on saturday because i'm a reasonable person

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    APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    I have to wait because I'm Online only (life prevents me from playing Physical magic, I work Friday nights)

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    i'm doing a 9 am prerelease on saturday because i'm a reasonable person

    I think for either theros or the last set of RtR I also did the saturday morning event

    Because who needs sleep or money

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    I'm hitting up the midnight session. Going to play some EDH or Cards Against Humanity leading up to it.

    So I think with Monoblack post Born of the Gods, Temple of Malice and Blood Crypt go in to give access to Slaughter Games. Bile and Drown give better creature removal as a solution for fast aggressive decks which it has issues, but I just don't see how you lose against the slower decks with access of up to four of them.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    If it was a mistake to print they'll ban it. If it wasn't, it could easily show up in a future supplemental product.

    Yeah dude. "Is now an important card in legacy" is not the same as a mistake.

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    Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    x4 sphere is like my removal of choice in the u/w devotion build I'll have post botg for that exact reason

    because half my store is playing the monoB deck now

    Pithing Needle also makes Pack Rat awful sad

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    The Betman wrote: »
    Creatures - 20
    2 Kragma Warcaller
    4 Rageblood Shaman
    4 Boros Reckoner
    2 Fanatic of Mogis
    2 Mogis, God of Slaughter
    4 Ragemonger
    2 Underworld Cerberus

    Spells - 15
    4 Magma Jet
    2 Dreadbore
    4 Shock
    2 Drown in Sorrow
    1 Hero's Downfall
    2 Bile Blight

    Planeswalkers - 2
    2 Chandra, Pyromaster

    Land - 23
    2 Mutavault
    4 Blood Crypt
    8 Mountain
    7 Swamp
    2 Temple of Malice

    Okay, here's the second draft of minotaurs. As versatile as Hero's Downfall is at instant speed, I tried using it and it didn't work out due to my deck being so heavy in the 3-drop area. I also dropped Purphoros for Underworld Cerberus, just because it either a) gets through for 6 damage a turn no problem or b) dies and gives me all my dead minotaurs back.

    We'll see how it plays, but I like the concept so far and it absolutely has ruined some aggro decks I've played against. Control is a big problem right now, and I'm thinking about my sideboard being all answers for that.

    honest question, is there a reason we arent playing the 1R 2/3 and the full set of warcallers/fanatics and some one drops even though they arent on tribe like cackler and the satyr

    20 creatures is really low and only 12 of them are actually minotaurs anyway. a lot of those spells probably belong sideboard

    hmmmmmm

    That's true, I suppose. I might take out a bit of the spot removal and put in the smaller guys... That definitely sounds appealing.

    if you're talking about Firedrinker Satyr i have a personal hatred for that card

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    The Betman wrote: »
    The Betman wrote: »
    Creatures - 20
    2 Kragma Warcaller
    4 Rageblood Shaman
    4 Boros Reckoner
    2 Fanatic of Mogis
    2 Mogis, God of Slaughter
    4 Ragemonger
    2 Underworld Cerberus

    Spells - 15
    4 Magma Jet
    2 Dreadbore
    4 Shock
    2 Drown in Sorrow
    1 Hero's Downfall
    2 Bile Blight

    Planeswalkers - 2
    2 Chandra, Pyromaster

    Land - 23
    2 Mutavault
    4 Blood Crypt
    8 Mountain
    7 Swamp
    2 Temple of Malice

    Okay, here's the second draft of minotaurs. As versatile as Hero's Downfall is at instant speed, I tried using it and it didn't work out due to my deck being so heavy in the 3-drop area. I also dropped Purphoros for Underworld Cerberus, just because it either a) gets through for 6 damage a turn no problem or b) dies and gives me all my dead minotaurs back.

    We'll see how it plays, but I like the concept so far and it absolutely has ruined some aggro decks I've played against. Control is a big problem right now, and I'm thinking about my sideboard being all answers for that.

    honest question, is there a reason we arent playing the 1R 2/3 and the full set of warcallers/fanatics and some one drops even though they arent on tribe like cackler and the satyr

    20 creatures is really low and only 12 of them are actually minotaurs anyway. a lot of those spells probably belong sideboard

    hmmmmmm

    That's true, I suppose. I might take out a bit of the spot removal and put in the smaller guys... That definitely sounds appealing.

    if you're talking about Firedrinker Satyr i have a personal hatred for that card

    I really like the Raider in the two drop slot. 2/3 is a big, big body for two mana and following it up on turn three with either your Lord, making him a 3/4 or a Skullcleaver and swinging for six is a pretty good place to be turn three.

    My minotaur deck looks like this currently.

    Creatures: 26
    4x Deathbellow Raider
    4x Rageblood Shaman
    4x Minotaur Skullcleaver (Good aggressive card, interacts well with Cerberus)
    4x Boros Reckoner
    2x Ragemonger
    4x Kragma Warcaller
    2x Felhide Spiritbinder (Can copy Warcaller or Skullcleaver)
    2x Underworld Cerberus

    Spells: 10
    2x Dreadbore
    2x Mizzium Mortars
    2x Magma Jet
    2x Chandra, Pyromaster
    2x Rakdos' Return

    Land: 24
    11x Mountain
    4x Blood Crypt
    4x Temple of Malice
    3x Mutavault
    2x Nythos, Shrine to Nyx

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Also holy shit I just realised Mutavault has jumped up to $30-35.

    Last I saw it was floating around $15 a few weeks back.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    if you had access to it stormbreath is probably better than cerberus (and they are dropping in price steadily) but cerberus probably still gets the job done

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    and while I also think firedrinker satyr is overall poop from a butt, hes really good against major players like u/w control that have no damage based way of dealing with him and he can go nuts till they find something

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Seems to me that with Devour Flesh likely to get cut from black decks to find space for Bile Blight and Drown in Sorrows, that Blood Baron is a pretty good place to be right now.

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Brimaz, foil Elspeth, Thassa and triple Nimbus Naiad in my pool.

    About to start the first round.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Kelor wrote: »
    Brimaz, foil Elspeth, Thassa and triple Nimbus Naiad in my pool.

    About to start the first round.

    Stab everyone in your pool

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2014
    also I still need to decide what I want color I want to pick

    what are the promo cards again I can't seem to find them on the wotc prerelease info page

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