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[MTG] Pack Rat Fever (BOTG Sealed League, see pg 20)

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  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    if I owned any fetches I'd probably jam them in there for thinning too + that

    Daebunz on
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  • APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    So I didn't know the card you guys were talking about so I looked the Grand Architect up.

    1/3 - ok that's not... very good. Guess it can block a little. Must have an awesome text box. *reads text* HOLY!!! A pump effect for your army and insane mana generation?? That's crazy! What's he cost? Like 5 mana?

    He... he costs three? I... what...

    That's incredible.

    EDIT: my only real experience playing with ramp is the Eldrazi deck in DOTP. I'm pretty sure that Grand Architect puts that deck to shame. You could have 10-12 mana available on turn 4 (and that's not including Nykthos of course)!

    I don't think DOTP's Eldrazi Deck can pull that off.

    Heck even on turn three, when you cast Architect, you could cast another spell for 6-8 colorless. Good lord.

    APODionysus on
  • GriswoldGriswold that's rough, buddyRegistered User regular
    Toying with an idea for a Modern Illusions list based on this discussion:
    4 Jace's Phantasm
    4 Phantasmal Bear

    4 Krovikan Mist
    4 Lord of the Unreal
    4 Phantasmal Image

    2 Adaptive Automaton
    4 Grand Architect
    4 Phyrexian Metamorph

    1 Memnarch

    2 Sword of Body and Mind
    3 Bident of Thassa

    4 Nephalia Drownyard
    3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
    4 Watery Grave
    4 Drowned Catacomb
    9 Island

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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    Man, with all the "X Target Creatures" we've got right now, if you could cheat out Dismiss into Dream, you could do some hilarious stuff.

  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    So I didn't know the card you guys were talking about so I looked the Grand Architect up.

    1/3 - ok that's not... very good. Guess it can block a little. Must have an awesome text box. *reads text* HOLY!!! A pump effect for your army and insane mana generation?? That's crazy! What's he cost? Like 5 mana?

    He... he costs three? I... what...

    That's incredible.

    EDIT: my only real experience playing with ramp is the Eldrazi deck in DOTP. I'm pretty sure that Grand Architect puts that deck to shame. You could have 10-12 mana available on turn 4 (and that's not including Nykthos of course)!

    I don't think DOTP's Eldrazi Deck can pull that off.

    Heck even on turn three, when you cast Architect, you could cast another spell for 6-8 colorless. Good lord.

    There's some other good colorless ramp in Modern:

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    I kind of want to make a version of my dumb ramping deck that is just the ramp + 4 sphinx rev plus 1 copy of each guild leader and god

    edit huh, the deck doesn't actually have that much space

    edit edit wow not even enough space one copy of all 15 gods

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Lifegain is only bad when you spend cards to do it. Incidental lifegain is awesome.

    I still don't 100% agree with that. I've been playing against my friends blood rush deck a lot recently, and their are absolutely games I would have won if he hadn't dropped a Predator's Rapport on something he had just pumped with blood rush.

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  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    Lifegain is only bad when you spend cards to do it. Incidental lifegain is awesome.

    I still don't 100% agree with that. I've been playing against my friends blood rush deck a lot recently, and their are absolutely games I would have won if he hadn't dropped a Predator's Rapport on something he had just pumped with blood rush.

    I usually think of it as "lifegain is only good if you have something to do with it after/with the time it buys"

    like the pitfall I see a lot of newer players who like lifegain is their deck doesnt have any way to win afterwards

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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    That rule applies to anything in magic, and is a hard lesson to learn.

    You can ramp all you want, but what do you do with the mana?
    You can control the game all day long, but what do you do once you're in the driver's seat?

  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    uh

    I'll have all the mana and smile a little wider every time the other guy's frustration visible increases, respectively

    both of those are solid win states

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    its turn 6 and you're top decking because you used your ramp to empty your hand already

    draw that card and get a big ole grin, tap all your shit to have 23 floating mana

    play your third elvish mystic and pass turn

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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    Sarcasm?

    Cause that's like... What I'm talking about.

  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    I was just more fully illustrating the thrilling possibilities

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    But you're absolutely correct, gotta have a plan and then the cards have to be the best ones for that plan

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Man, with all the "X Target Creatures" we've got right now, if you could cheat out Dismiss into Dream, you could do some hilarious stuff.

    I like that Dismiss Into Dream lets you kill gods by breathing on them.

  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    its turn 6 and you're top decking because you used your ramp to empty your hand already

    draw that card and get a big ole grin, tap all your shit to have 23 floating mana

    play your third elvish mystic and pass turn

    this is actually why I stopped playing g/r devotion

    that and garruk seeing 20 cards and only finding me 4 mana dorks was the last straw

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    I mean, some of the best times you can have in Magic is when some just tremendously goofy shit happens, regardless of who wins.

    I managed to make a 200/200 Thromok the Insatiable once, and then my friend Act of Treason 'd it and followed up with Fling. Sure I lost, but at that point who cares. That was magical.

    Or my goblin deck that forces draws with Skirk Fire Marshal on the regular. Still not winning, also not really caring because it's funny.

    Or my old B/R chaos deck. Only played it in games of 4+ people, and it was full of every goofy red and black enchantment I could get ahold of, along with Howling Mines and whatnot.

    So yeah, maybe I end up missing my win con, but if I still end up being able to make 30+ mana each turn because of shenanigans, I'm still having a pretty good time.

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    ramping into sphinx rev makes me wish reliquary tower was in standard

    but alas

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Also @APODionysus, if you're using Chrome you might want to check out Autocard Anywhere. It lets you mouse over card names that people type out to see a picture of the card, and if you click on them it will take you to the Gatherer page for it.

    You have to play around with the ignore list so it isn't highlighting every instance of the word Island or whatever, but it's really nice if you're still learning what all these old cards are.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i forgot to mention

    the only guy i lost to at prerelease
    his next round? he made a 36/36 with double-strike and lifelink

  • SlymSlym Registered User regular
    People were talking about colorless mana ramp?

    How do you feel about cloudpost?

    (full disclaimer, couldpost is banned in modern but I remember when it was in standard and I could be playing an entwined tooth and nail on like turn 5)

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    I wish we had cloudpost in modern but probably never gonna happen

    I just wanna slam down sundering titans and blightsteels and eldrazi like its no biggie more consistently than tron is that too much to ask

    Daebunz on
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  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Especially since they have the other Locus that gains you life.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    That rule applies to anything in magic, and is a hard lesson to learn.

    You can ramp all you want, but what do you do with the mana?

    Well the way I see it you've got two options

    1): Make 10/10 hydra, put Alpha Authority on it
    2): Clan Defiance/Aurelia's Fury/[Choose your Fireball stand-in] opponent's face off

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    So I love Cube (the Draft format) and was reading a set review of BNG for Cube.

    @kwoaru this made me think of you:
    Verdict: Phenax is a great card for Cube owners that hate their friends, but keep in mind you likely will only get to play with him once per friend. Just a miserable card to play against.

  • carcinogeniccarcinogenic Lord of Nothing On the other side of the mirror. Help?Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    I managed to make a 200/200 Thromok the Insatiable once, and then my friend Act of Treason 'd it and followed up with Fling. Sure I lost, but at that point who cares. That was magical.

    That is one of the most beautiful things I've ever read in my life.

    Wait, what?
  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    So I love Cube (the Draft format) and was reading a set review of BNG for Cube.

    @kwoaru this made me think of you:
    Verdict: Phenax is a great card for Cube owners that hate their friends, but keep in mind you likely will only get to play with him once per friend. Just a miserable card to play against.

    Yeah, Sword of Body and Mind and Jace, Memory Adept aren't in my Cube for the same reasons.

    That much mill just isn't fun in a limited format unless you're the dude doing the milling.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    I think I want to make a Weatherlight crew deck for my next EDH deck.

    People would probably be cool with me having Legacy Weapon as a general. I'd run Skyship Weatherlight but it doesn't have the colours to run the full crew.

    Sisay
    Gerrard
    Tarngarth
    Squee
    Hanna
    Ertai
    Karn
    Orim
    Mirri
    Crovax

    I think that's all but of them. Although I feel there was an angel lady in Tempest who went bad.

    Edit: Selenia, that was it!

    Also forgot Starke, Multani and Rofellos.

    Kelor on
  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    event deck for BNG is hurf durf monoblack and it looks like a pretty decent event deck to boot

    has a d-demon, rat, downfall, 2 necromancers, and multiples of some good aggressive dudes like cackler

    Daebunz on
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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular

    admanb wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    ah
    and people don't care about life loss, right

    this is why i will never be a good magic player

    the only point of life that matters is the last one

    Nah.

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  • carcinogeniccarcinogenic Lord of Nothing On the other side of the mirror. Help?Registered User regular
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    GG.

    Wait, what?
  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Kelor wrote: »
    I think I want to make a Weatherlight crew deck for my next EDH deck.

    People would probably be cool with me having Legacy Weapon as a general. I'd run Skyship Weatherlight but it doesn't have the colours to run the full crew.

    Sisay
    Gerrard
    Tarngarth
    Squee
    Hanna
    Ertai
    Karn
    Orim
    Mirri
    Crovax

    I think that's all but of them. Although I feel there was an angel lady in Tempest who went bad.

    Edit: Selenia, that was it!

    Also forgot Starke, Multani and Rofellos.

    Okay, most of the way there now.


    I might make one for their enemies too. Greven, Volrath etc.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
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    GG.

    You know,

    If they have no creature or enchantment removal.

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
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    GG.

    You know,

    If they have no creature or enchantment removal.

    who has time for that shit in today's fast-paced meta

  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    Kelor wrote: »
    So I love Cube (the Draft format) and was reading a set review of BNG for Cube.

    kwoaru this made me think of you:
    Verdict: Phenax is a great card for Cube owners that hate their friends, but keep in mind you likely will only get to play with him once per friend. Just a miserable card to play against.

    Yeah, Sword of Body and Mind and Jace, Memory Adept aren't in my Cube for the same reasons.

    That much mill just isn't fun in a limited format unless you're the dude doing the milling.

    I wanna be that dude

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    The best thing about the Modern Architect/Master of Waves deck is curving off like, turn 1 Cursecatcher, turn 2 Grimoire Thief/Tidebinder Mage, turn 3 Architect, turn 4 Master of Waves into Mindslaver, activate, next turn attack for a fucking thousand.

  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    The best thing about the Modern Architect/Master of Waves deck is curving off like, turn 1 Cursecatcher, turn 2 Grimoire Thief/Tidebinder Mage, turn 3 Architect, turn 4 Master of Waves into Mindslaver, activate, next turn attack for a fucking thousand.

    also that

    you can mindslaver lock people out of the board

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  • tuggatugga Makin' movies Makin' songsRegistered User regular
    Peccavi wrote: »
    Well, creature cards can use abilities too, just not abilities with the tap symbol (although to make things more confusing, they can be tapped for abilities where the cost is something like, "Tap a creature you control: X").

    If this is the case, someone has been lying to me

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