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Nintendo sees $8.1billion US Revenue

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  • CymoroCymoro Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Profs wrote: »
    No Cymoro, I'm obviously not saying FPS is the only thing that will drive the console. As I mentioned, I over-exaggerated a bit in my first pos, but you'd be a fool to ignore the genre as well. Can you honestly say it's not a big deal for Nintendo if FPS's continue to suck ass on the Wii? Also, if you're bringing up the original Xbox, look at it's big brother now. Would people buy the system were it not for most of the FPS's on it? I wouldn't have. And what was (and still is) the PS3's top-seller?

    I don't think Nintendo can just tell other people to stop what they're doing and start making FPSs, nor is there one collective thinktank behind what games will be made for the system. It looks like every company is getting in one FPS each, and if it's shitty, it's because of that individual company and not Nintendo's fault.

    If anything, Nintendo should be bitching (and is) at other developers to start making good games.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    You think if I ask nicely, they'll let me have some of it?

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    i just read that Sony is making the same revenue as Nintendo, selling less PS3's and such, but of course they cost more.


    of course this does not say anything about THEIR costs and thus, profits

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    As for FPSs, Metroid is coming (Yes, I know it isn't technically a FPS) and beyond that, the REs (however they will work) are coming too.


    RE? However it will work? Goddamn wiimote! Use it to smash, axe and whack zombies!

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  • Dirk2112Dirk2112 Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mark wrote: »
    Except for Zelda, they can't find -at the moment- any really good game...

    I know it is a port, but have they tried the Wii version of Godfather yet? I love using the wiimote to bash people with bats and/or to push them out of windows. Good times, good times....

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  • MarlorMarlor Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Ranced wrote: »
    The Wii doesn't need to hold down the FPS genre. I find it to be great with everything but that.

    Exactly. If you want gun battles, then the 360 is heaven. The Wii can't compete with the lineup there.

    But there are plenty of us who can't stand console 3D shooters.

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  • FrostozunaFrostozuna Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    elkatas wrote:
    Basically same could be said to all consoles.
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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Barcardi wrote: »
    still cant find a single wii within 500 miles

    closest wii is in arizona

    or was last time i checked.... and i just rechecked and no its not even there

    There are no Wiis in Arizona.

    ...or at least, there haven't been any in any store I have walked into since late December. (I saw a stack of them in a Best Buy around then.)
    Man, doesn't anyone remember the first year of the DS? Everyone was pretty much "gimmick gimmick lol" right up until it hit its stride in the second year and now it's a fucking juggernaut. Selling your Wiis? C'mon, that's just dramatic.


    And the DS' library was a lot worse in the fifth month since its release.

    The Wii has Zelda, Excite Truck, Trauma Centre, Metal Slug, Elebits, Super Swing Golf, Sonic, WarioWare, Cooking Mama, Kororinpa (you know, that marble game) and Super Paper Mario on the way next week.

    All the DS had at this stage was a Mario 64 port and WarioWare.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mark wrote: »
    Do you think this success will last long ? :?:

    Many friends of mine have bought Wiis and now want to sell them. Except for Zelda, they can't find -at the moment- any really good game...

    Your friends are idiots. I've got a nice little collection of really good games going for the Wii already, including Wario Ware, Excite Truck, Kororinpa, Elebits, Metal Slug, and Sonic.

    And the list is only that short because I don't have enough money to buy all the games I want (well, not enough money to do it without dipping into the rainy day fund). But with Galaxy, Disaster, Mario Strikers (online w00t), Paper Mario, and MP3 coming out, as well as the likelihood of NeoGeo games hitting the VC, I don't understand where people think there's a drought.

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  • MartyMarty Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    The Kyoto-based company said it now expects a foreign exchange-related profit of 20 billion yen for the 2006/07 business year, rather than its previous forecast of a 10 billion yen loss.

    That's what stood out to me the most.

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  • bombboybombboy Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Marty81 wrote: »
    The Kyoto-based company said it now expects a foreign exchange-related profit of 20 billion yen for the 2006/07 business year, rather than its previous forecast of a 10 billion yen loss.

    That's what stood out to me the most.

    That stuck out for me as well

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    bombboy wrote: »
    Marty81 wrote: »
    The Kyoto-based company said it now expects a foreign exchange-related profit of 20 billion yen for the 2006/07 business year, rather than its previous forecast of a 10 billion yen loss.

    That's what stood out to me the most.

    That stuck out for me as well

    That's a measurement of how much the total value of their non-Japanese investments fluctuates with the money market.

    Say you had $100 in USD and the exchange rate in Japan was 100:1 last year and 125:1 this year. From the Japanese point of view, your $100 USD investment would've been worth 10,000 JPY the first year, and 12,500 JPY the second year. Even though your investment didn't change, you've "gained" 2,500 JPY.

    Now imagine you had to estimate that based on (a) what you think the Yen will be worth next year compared to all other currencies you hold, (b) estimating how much the foreign investments will grow, and (c) the total worth of all non-Japanese Nintendo holdings, including all of NoA, all of NoE, etc ...

    I probably wouldn't even come this close (off by $253 million USD).

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  • BTPBTP Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Frostozuna wrote: »
    elkatas wrote:
    Basically same could be said to all consoles.
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    :lol:

    I am so glad I understand this now.

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  • thunderclumpthunderclump Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    bombboy wrote: »
    Marty81 wrote: »
    The Kyoto-based company said it now expects a foreign exchange-related profit of 20 billion yen for the 2006/07 business year, rather than its previous forecast of a 10 billion yen loss.

    That's what stood out to me the most.

    That stuck out for me as well

    That's a measurement of how much the total value of their non-Japanese investments fluctuates with the money market.

    Say you had $100 in USD and the exchange rate in Japan was 100:1 last year and 125:1 this year. From the Japanese point of view, your $100 USD investment would've been worth 10,000 JPY the first year, and 12,500 JPY the second year. Even though your investment didn't change, you've "gained" 2,500 JPY.

    Now imagine you had to estimate that based on (a) what you think the Yen will be worth next year compared to all other currencies you hold, (b) estimating how much the foreign investments will grow, and (c) the total worth of all non-Japanese Nintendo holdings, including all of NoA, all of NoE, etc ...

    I probably wouldn't even come this close (off by $253 million USD).
    It's a pretty big discrepancy though, don't you think? Especially given that these people are paid to make these estimates.

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  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    bombboy wrote: »
    Marty81 wrote: »
    The Kyoto-based company said it now expects a foreign exchange-related profit of 20 billion yen for the 2006/07 business year, rather than its previous forecast of a 10 billion yen loss.

    That's what stood out to me the most.

    That stuck out for me as well

    That's a measurement of how much the total value of their non-Japanese investments fluctuates with the money market.

    Say you had $100 in USD and the exchange rate in Japan was 100:1 last year and 125:1 this year. From the Japanese point of view, your $100 USD investment would've been worth 10,000 JPY the first year, and 12,500 JPY the second year. Even though your investment didn't change, you've "gained" 2,500 JPY.

    Now imagine you had to estimate that based on (a) what you think the Yen will be worth next year compared to all other currencies you hold, (b) estimating how much the foreign investments will grow, and (c) the total worth of all non-Japanese Nintendo holdings, including all of NoA, all of NoE, etc ...

    I probably wouldn't even come this close (off by $253 million USD).
    It's a pretty big discrepancy though, don't you think? Especially given that these people are paid to make these estimates.

    I think the foreign exchange rate, as well as the performance of the DS and Wii, surprised everybody, including Nintendo.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    bombboy wrote: »
    Marty81 wrote: »
    The Kyoto-based company said it now expects a foreign exchange-related profit of 20 billion yen for the 2006/07 business year, rather than its previous forecast of a 10 billion yen loss.
    That's what stood out to me the most.

    That stuck out for me as well

    That's a measurement of how much the total value of their non-Japanese investments fluctuates with the money market.

    Say you had $100 in USD and the exchange rate in Japan was 100:1 last year and 125:1 this year. From the Japanese point of view, your $100 USD investment would've been worth 10,000 JPY the first year, and 12,500 JPY the second year. Even though your investment didn't change, you've "gained" 2,500 JPY.

    Now imagine you had to estimate that based on (a) what you think the Yen will be worth next year compared to all other currencies you hold, (b) estimating how much the foreign investments will grow, and (c) the total worth of all non-Japanese Nintendo holdings, including all of NoA, all of NoE, etc ...

    I probably wouldn't even come this close (off by $253 million USD).
    It's a pretty big discrepancy though, don't you think? Especially given that these people are paid to make these estimates.

    When exactly was the estimate made?

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Pata wrote: »
    DOOMED

    That 'joke' died a long long time ago. Truth be told, I'm pretty sure it was stillborn.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    SC wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    DOOMED
    That 'joke' died a long long time ago. Truth be told, I'm pretty sure it was stillborn.
    Nintendo to buy the joke in five years.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    the thing that's really killing me about the Wii is all the badly done ports being sold now. there are quality games in there, like Sonic and Trauma Center, but even those titles were somewhat rushed. game publishers and developers didn't expect the Wii to be selling so well. they're now scrambling to shove ports with Wii controls tacked on or rushed games with little dev time to try and make sales. i'm not exactly surprised that fewer original quality titles are being released, because the publishers simply believed the Wii to do poorly.

    it sucks because it's giving the impression that this is all the Wii is about. Nintendo is also in the incredible hard position of trying not to flood its own system with in-house and first-party titles that will detract from third-party sales and support.

    so basically, if you've bought a Wii, have faith that things will slowly improve. devs know the Wii is popular. the controller is accurate (as evidenced by the data dumps people have been posting to the net from the wiimote's interface). i'm thinking that, as with the DS, things will suddenly click.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    mausmalone wrote: »
    bombboy wrote: »
    Marty81 wrote: »
    The Kyoto-based company said it now expects a foreign exchange-related profit of 20 billion yen for the 2006/07 business year, rather than its previous forecast of a 10 billion yen loss.
    That's what stood out to me the most.

    That stuck out for me as well

    That's a measurement of how much the total value of their non-Japanese investments fluctuates with the money market.

    Say you had $100 in USD and the exchange rate in Japan was 100:1 last year and 125:1 this year. From the Japanese point of view, your $100 USD investment would've been worth 10,000 JPY the first year, and 12,500 JPY the second year. Even though your investment didn't change, you've "gained" 2,500 JPY.

    Now imagine you had to estimate that based on (a) what you think the Yen will be worth next year compared to all other currencies you hold, (b) estimating how much the foreign investments will grow, and (c) the total worth of all non-Japanese Nintendo holdings, including all of NoA, all of NoE, etc ...

    I probably wouldn't even come this close (off by $253 million USD).
    It's a pretty big discrepancy though, don't you think? Especially given that these people are paid to make these estimates.

    When exactly was the estimate made?

    Given that this is an annual report, I'd assume that the estimate was made one year ago.

    Estimating changes in the currency market a year in advance is pretty much impossible, and you generally have to just look at current trends and assume they'll continue.

    Sounds like an awful job until the one time someone asks "Yeah... well what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?" and you can look at them menacingly and say "Everything." The other 364 days a year I bet it sucks.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    BTP wrote: »
    Frostozuna wrote: »
    elkatas wrote:
    Basically same could be said to all consoles.
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    :lol:

    I am so glad I understand this now.

    What is an Xbox?!

    A miserable little pile of gigabits!

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    Estimating changes in the currency market a year in advance is pretty much impossible, and you generally have to just look at current trends and assume they'll continue.

    Sounds like an awful job until the one time someone asks "Yeah... well what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?" and you can look at them menacingly and say "Everything." The other 364 days a year I bet it sucks.
    :lol:

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    BTP wrote: »
    Frostozuna wrote: »
    elkatas wrote:
    Basically same could be said to all consoles.
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    :lol:

    I am so glad I understand this now.

    I don't get it.

    Is he saying it was not by Nintendo's hand that the Wii was brought into the world?

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    i just read that Sony is making the same revenue as Nintendo, selling less PS3's and such, but of course they cost more.


    of course this does not say anything about THEIR costs and thus, profits

    Exactly. Nintendo has been making a profit on each Wii sold since day 1, whereas Sony has been losing upwards of $200 on each PS3 sold. They're actually in better shape financially because the PS3 is selling so poorly. In the long run though...they better hope Blu-Ray wins the format war because the PS3 is not going to be paying itself off, likely ever. Think Xbox 1, but worse. They're taking a bigger loss on each unit and selling fewer of them, so what developer support there is, may very well decline unless things change in the next year.

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  • WyndhamPriceWyndhamPrice Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    BTP wrote: »
    Frostozuna wrote: »
    elkatas wrote:
    Basically same could be said to all consoles.
    dracula01.jpg

    :lol:

    I am so glad I understand this now.

    I don't get it.

    Is he saying it was not by Nintendo's hand that the Wii was brought into the world?

    What is a console?


    A miserable little pile of secrets!

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Seperoth wrote: »
    What is a console?


    A miserable little pile of secrets!

    Oh man, you were beaten like a naughty puppy.
    arod_77 wrote: »
    What is an Xbox?!

    A miserable little pile of gigabits!

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  • Gorilla SaladGorilla Salad Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Oh. OH! Now I get it.
    *facepalm*

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
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  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    JWFokker wrote: »
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    i just read that Sony is making the same revenue as Nintendo, selling less PS3's and such, but of course they cost more.


    of course this does not say anything about THEIR costs and thus, profits

    Exactly. Nintendo has been making a profit on each Wii sold since day 1, whereas Sony has been losing upwards of $200 on each PS3 sold. They're actually in better shape financially because the PS3 is selling so poorly. In the long run though...they better hope Blu-Ray wins the format war because the PS3 is not going to be paying itself off, likely ever. Think Xbox 1, but worse. They're taking a bigger loss on each unit and selling fewer of them, so what developer support there is, may very well decline unless things change in the next year.

    Upwards of $300, actually, specifically on the 20GB model that's rumored to be discontinued.

    But yeah, it's looking like Sony's game division will be in for some hurt over the next few years unless the PSP gets a big boost or Sony can manage to sell the PS3 at a market-friendly price without breaking the bank.

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  • ProfsProfs Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard Blu-Ray's outselling HD-DVD at a ratio of 3:1. As a completely undocumented statistic, take it for what it's worth. :P

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  • CymoroCymoro Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Profs wrote: »
    I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard Blu-Ray's outselling HD-DVD at a ratio of 3:1. As a completely undocumented statistic, take it for what it's worth. :P

    Thank you for this unrelated rumor.

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Cymoro wrote: »
    Profs wrote: »
    I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard Blu-Ray's outselling HD-DVD at a ratio of 3:1. As a completely undocumented statistic, take it for what it's worth. :P

    Thank you for this unrelated rumor.

    well I heard that I'm banging more chicks than you are at a ratio of 3:1. As a completely undocumented statistic, take it for what it's worth. ;-)

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Profs wrote: »
    I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard Blu-Ray's outselling HD-DVD at a ratio of 3:1. As a completely undocumented statistic, take it for what it's worth. :P
    The only real problem is that neither is really selling well. It's like a friend of mine from Australia told me. The store he was working at had BluRay titles outselling HD-DVD 6:1 so far this year. But then he told me they'd only sold 12 BluRay titles, so it's not as impressive as it sounds.

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  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    bruin wrote: »

    Let's not forget that the Wii's $250 price point was done specifically so that the console unit itself would be profitable from day one. Now I have to wonder how many of those 'olol $249 GameCube 1.5 Nintendoomed' prophets already own a Wii.

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  • Gorilla SaladGorilla Salad Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    gtrmp wrote: »
    bruin wrote: »

    Let's not forget that the Wii's $250 price point was done specifically so that the console unit itself would be profitable from day one. Now I have to wonder how many of those 'olol $249 GameCube 1.5 Nintendoomed' prophets already own a Wii.
    1 million!
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  • ZedroZedro Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    bruin wrote: »
    I dunno, someone needed to post it.

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    It should say: "It EATS money!"

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    The DS is like God's favorite system you know. He can totally beat your ass in Puzzle Quest

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Stolen from GAF

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  • DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    It's late for me as well, but is the statement being made that Nintendo is taking less than a third of the take for an industry with 3 primary competitors? Or does the 30 billion figure include all the game developers as well?

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