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these conversations are weird because everyone has a different idea of a good standard of living.
I'm normally extremely hesitant to say that there are some objective grounds for declaring that another person's seemingly-subjective opinions are wrong.
But as to single individuals earning between the top 10% and the top 1%, the range from $100,000 to $120,000, who think it's "really not much"?
That is when the facts against you start to sound awfully empirical! You are almost certainly living better than something like 90% to 95% of humanity!
well sure, but the argument could be made that even at the 95th percentile, people don't live 'well'. there is this imagined goalpost that shifts, and ultimately i don't know that there can be some meaningful cutoff. i think it helpfully puts things in perspective to frame it in terms of how many people make more or less than x amount, but that doesn't define 'good living' i don't think. it seems frustratingly subjective.
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
I'm very thankful for my extremely varied family economic-status' growing up.
It has given me very good perspective on money and how to make the most of various situations.
From spam on toast dinners and living in the back of a pizza shop to ballin out with the most crazy ass extravagent vacations...
More people should get to see things from both sides.
It's enlightening.
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
these conversations are weird because everyone has a different idea of a good standard of living.
I'm normally extremely hesitant to say that there are some objective grounds for declaring that another person's seemingly-subjective opinions are wrong.
But as to single individuals earning between the top 10% and the top 1%, the range from $100,000 to $120,000, who think it's "really not much"?
That is when the facts against you start to sound awfully empirical! You are almost certainly living better than something like 90% to 95% of humanity!
these conversations are weird because everyone has a different idea of a good standard of living.
I'm normally extremely hesitant to say that there are some objective grounds for declaring that another person's seemingly-subjective opinions are wrong.
But as to single individuals earning between the top 10% and the top 1%, the range from $100,000 to $120,000, who think it's "really not much"?
That is when the facts against you start to sound awfully empirical! You are almost certainly living better than something like 90% to 95% of humanity!
well sure, but the argument could be made that even at the 95th percentile, people don't live 'well'. there is this imagined goalpost that shifts, and ultimately i don't know that there can be some meaningful cutoff. i think it helpfully puts things in perspective to frame it in terms of how many people make more or less than x amount, but that doesn't define 'good living' i don't think. it seems frustratingly subjective.
living well is more to do with an absence of worry than an actual standard of living per se
once u have ur basic shit handled and not varying too much then u can get on with being a fulfilled human being, but people shitting themselves about rent rarely manage happiness
these conversations are weird because everyone has a different idea of a good standard of living.
I'm normally extremely hesitant to say that there are some objective grounds for declaring that another person's seemingly-subjective opinions are wrong.
But as to single individuals earning between the top 10% and the top 1%, the range from $100,000 to $120,000, who think it's "really not much"?
That is when the facts against you start to sound awfully empirical! You are almost certainly living better than something like 90% to 95% of humanity!
well sure, but the argument could be made that even at the 95th percentile, people don't live 'well'. there is this imagined goalpost that shifts, and ultimately i don't know that there can be some meaningful cutoff. i think it helpfully puts things in perspective to frame it in terms of how many people make more or less than x amount, but that doesn't define 'good living' i don't think. it seems frustratingly subjective.
I'm not saying, "What is wrong with you, why aren't you happy with your life? Look at your income!" Apologies if that seemed to be an implication, because yeah, money doesn't work that way.
But if psychological expectations ratchet upwards and this causes a person to complain about "not really having" an above-average amount of income to manage their finances with, I mean, that just isn't true. That is the incorrect conflation between happiness and whether one's income makes one rich.
kedinik on
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
these conversations are weird because everyone has a different idea of a good standard of living.
I'm normally extremely hesitant to say that there are some objective grounds for declaring that another person's seemingly-subjective opinions are wrong.
But as to single individuals earning between the top 10% and the top 1%, the range from $100,000 to $120,000, who think it's "really not much"?
That is when the facts against you start to sound awfully empirical! You are almost certainly living better than something like 90% to 95% of humanity!
It's all relative.
Something like 80% of humanity live on under. $10,000 a year.
That doesn't make the dude making double that a baller.
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Element BrianPeanut Butter ShillRegistered Userregular
-paying all your bills in full, not worrying about minimums or juggling due dates
-buying what you want from where you want- not having to buy used, thrift, go to discount stores etc
-saving aggressively in the short-medium term
-saving aggressively for retirement
-eating out frequently
-regular bar tabs
-living alone
-living in a hip area
-owning a car (if it's an option where you live)
-owning a nice car
-being able to vacation once a year or more in another country
-having various hobbies which you can support financially
i think most people are satisfied with just some of those things
if you can do all of them tho', i'd say you're living p well
also i think then it become a silly sliding scale about how much saving is 'saving a lot'
like some dudes live ascetically and save 50+% of income
i don't think there's anywhere in the country you could do that and also do all those other things
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jeffinvaKooglercoming this summerRegistered Userregular
If I ever win one of those crazy gigantic lottery powerballs I will hire Mase to recreate that video, scene by scene, with me, and it will play in a loop in my music and trophy room.
having some liquidity is so great not that i get to experience it often : [
the knowledge that you are not in danger of hitting a 0 balance is p much the greatest
when i get there i will tear open my heaving thorax and release m-
i mean, i'll be happy
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
A few studies have shown that 'money doesn't make you happy' is only sorta true.
Money doesn't make you more happy, but being broke and not sure how to pay your rent definitely makes you unhappy. There's a threshold where money stops making you unhappy because you can pay all your bills and save for retirement and get the things you really want or need. In the States, this is about $77k a year or so (Depending on cost of living, of course).
I'm past that in Yellowknife, which is pretty expensive (My tiny 1 BR apartment is $1510 a month), but I can tell you this: I am a lot happier now then I was programming (A job I enjoy more than this job), making $35k a year.
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
Also, for the first time in my life, I'm looking at buying a condo as a realistic "I can do this" instead of "Man, I wish I could do this."
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
these conversations are weird because everyone has a different idea of a good standard of living.
I'm normally extremely hesitant to say that there are some objective grounds for declaring that another person's seemingly-subjective opinions are wrong.
But as to single individuals earning between the top 10% and the top 1%, the range from $100,000 to $120,000, who think it's "really not much"?
That is when the facts against you start to sound awfully empirical! You are almost certainly living better than something like 90% to 95% of humanity!
It's all relative.
Something like 80% of humanity live on under. $10,000 a year.
That doesn't make the dude making double that a baller.
Well, but now you're digging into the difference between the countries where you can get livable, average food and shelter for $1-2 per day versus the developed countries where you cannot even get a single modest meal for that amount. It hardly says anything intelligible about individual wealth disparities to compare individuals facing such drastically different institutional options.
Income inequality analysis - the question of whether a person complaining about earning $120k is reasonable or not - is hardly even coherent unless you compare that individual to the other people in the country who deal with similar political systems, similar opportunity to follow new wage opportunities, and similar options to move between similar-but-different costs of living.
kedinik on
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
Money makes me very happy.
So happy.
It's da bes.
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
1050 glaze it
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
when I insert a dvd into the computer, the autoplay feature pops up and asks if I want to run it with windows media player. Naturally, I don't. Is there a way to replace "windows media player" in that dialog with "media player classic"?
glancing through the autoplay settings, I don't see an obvious way to do this
You probably need to change your default media player in control panel settings.
hmm...
feel like I've been down this road before. There's a default programs in the control panel, but I can't add or remove entries. Frustrating.
What's your O/S, Tamin?
winver reports windows 7 ultimate n. 64-bit
Hmm...so what does it give you when you click on autoplay in control panel, Tamin? It just gives the media player option when you click on the choose a default box?
the applicable drop-down (enhanced DVD Movie) has a default entry of "ask me every time". The other entries in the drop-down are
* run enhanced content
* Play DVD movie using Windows Media Player
* open folder
* take no action
with no option to add a new entry.
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
I've agreed to help a buddy of mine buy some clothes today to make him more fashionable or something.
He is taking me to Olive Garden with a gift card he has....
Is there anything I can order there that isn't so awful that I begin to weep at the mere sight of it?
How much of a snob are you?
Olive Garden isn't horrible, it's just firmly average.
I eat Wendy's chikky nugz on the reg.
I've had Olive Garden a few times before and everything seemed even worse than if I had bought dry pasta and a can of sauce at a grocery store. But I'm willing to believe that I had just made the wrong choices.
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
I've agreed to help a buddy of mine buy some clothes today to make him more fashionable or something.
He is taking me to Olive Garden with a gift card he has....
Is there anything I can order there that isn't so awful that I begin to weep at the mere sight of it?
olive garden is about as inoffensive as it gets -- it's spaghetti bro. I mean, it's overpriced and the faux-authentic atmosphere is a bit silly but it's not like it's gross.
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well sure, but the argument could be made that even at the 95th percentile, people don't live 'well'. there is this imagined goalpost that shifts, and ultimately i don't know that there can be some meaningful cutoff. i think it helpfully puts things in perspective to frame it in terms of how many people make more or less than x amount, but that doesn't define 'good living' i don't think. it seems frustratingly subjective.
It has given me very good perspective on money and how to make the most of various situations.
From spam on toast dinners and living in the back of a pizza shop to ballin out with the most crazy ass extravagent vacations...
More people should get to see things from both sides.
It's enlightening.
twitch.tv/tehsloth
We can be cream peas on toast bros, Stacey. I've been there before.
living well is more to do with an absence of worry than an actual standard of living per se
once u have ur basic shit handled and not varying too much then u can get on with being a fulfilled human being, but people shitting themselves about rent rarely manage happiness
I'm not saying, "What is wrong with you, why aren't you happy with your life? Look at your income!" Apologies if that seemed to be an implication, because yeah, money doesn't work that way.
But if psychological expectations ratchet upwards and this causes a person to complain about "not really having" an above-average amount of income to manage their finances with, I mean, that just isn't true. That is the incorrect conflation between happiness and whether one's income makes one rich.
It's all relative.
Something like 80% of humanity live on under. $10,000 a year.
That doesn't make the dude making double that a baller.
Literally all they had to do was come was spray it on the dudes nose and come up with a red reflectant.
But no, they had to think practically.
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
-paying all your bills in full, not worrying about minimums or juggling due dates
-buying what you want from where you want- not having to buy used, thrift, go to discount stores etc
-saving aggressively in the short-medium term
-saving aggressively for retirement
-eating out frequently
-regular bar tabs
-living alone
-living in a hip area
-owning a car (if it's an option where you live)
-owning a nice car
-being able to vacation once a year or more in another country
-having various hobbies which you can support financially
i think most people are satisfied with just some of those things
if you can do all of them tho', i'd say you're living p well
also i think then it become a silly sliding scale about how much saving is 'saving a lot'
like some dudes live ascetically and save 50+% of income
i don't think there's anywhere in the country you could do that and also do all those other things
Wolves and Sith Lords will be able to hunt them at night better.
having some liquidity is so great not that i get to experience it often : [
the knowledge that you are not in danger of hitting a 0 balance is p much the greatest
when i get there i will tear open my heaving thorax and release m-
i mean, i'll be happy
Money doesn't make you more happy, but being broke and not sure how to pay your rent definitely makes you unhappy. There's a threshold where money stops making you unhappy because you can pay all your bills and save for retirement and get the things you really want or need. In the States, this is about $77k a year or so (Depending on cost of living, of course).
I'm past that in Yellowknife, which is pretty expensive (My tiny 1 BR apartment is $1510 a month), but I can tell you this: I am a lot happier now then I was programming (A job I enjoy more than this job), making $35k a year.
I BELIEVE IN CHU
Well, but now you're digging into the difference between the countries where you can get livable, average food and shelter for $1-2 per day versus the developed countries where you cannot even get a single modest meal for that amount. It hardly says anything intelligible about individual wealth disparities to compare individuals facing such drastically different institutional options.
Income inequality analysis - the question of whether a person complaining about earning $120k is reasonable or not - is hardly even coherent unless you compare that individual to the other people in the country who deal with similar political systems, similar opportunity to follow new wage opportunities, and similar options to move between similar-but-different costs of living.
So happy.
It's da bes.
u got dem dank munchkins
twitch.tv/tehsloth
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
man they are really reaching for target markets for star wars merch, huh
mmm yes, wifey material you are
twitch.tv/tehsloth
Huh.
He is taking me to Olive Garden with a gift card he has....
Is there anything I can order there that isn't so awful that I begin to weep at the mere sight of it?
water.
Just think of it like expensive frozen food.
How much of a snob are you?
Olive Garden isn't horrible, it's just firmly average.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
*thousand yard stare*
the applicable drop-down (enhanced DVD Movie) has a default entry of "ask me every time". The other entries in the drop-down are
* run enhanced content
* Play DVD movie using Windows Media Player
* open folder
* take no action
with no option to add a new entry.
I eat Wendy's chikky nugz on the reg.
I've had Olive Garden a few times before and everything seemed even worse than if I had bought dry pasta and a can of sauce at a grocery store. But I'm willing to believe that I had just made the wrong choices.
Excellent.
That's why I keep it.
As a reminder of that fateful day.
And so that you always know I still own a small part of your being.
olive garden is about as inoffensive as it gets -- it's spaghetti bro. I mean, it's overpriced and the faux-authentic atmosphere is a bit silly but it's not like it's gross.
twitch.tv/tehsloth
Is it because olive garden is a chain restaurant and their pasta is completely inferior to anything possible?
I'm just curious like, what your boundaries are
if you don't want their failure of pasta, then try one of the Apetizers like the spinache artichok dip or mozarella fondue
or get a pizza
no but really spinach artichoke
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
s'alright
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I dunno!
Like I said I've only had it a few times and it was just really sad!
But I did not know they had a pizza option.
That sounds ideal.
Thanks!