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A god damned discussion about right of way
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This is why I always leave late. Being in a hurry on the road all the time helps me keep my edge.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Oh god when that happens I have such a smug boner.
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But these are so good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hWaYwXJhQPY
Apropos of nothing: Newton Circus, which the Land Transport Authority endlessly tweaks. Unfortunately it's not really fixable - although it has long since outgrown the capacity for a roundabout (it originally only had two lanes), the overpass and the (unseen) storm canal make engineering difficult, and there are six two-way roads leading out of the roundabout, four of which have very heavy traffic. Currently the roundabout relies on traffic lights to control inflow.
Statistically, DC and Baltimore have the worst drivers.
I can also confirm this anecdotally.
Makes sense because of all the congress people, god knows you can never tell which way those assholes are going.
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It sure doesn't help that everybody on the far right thinks they're in the middle, everybody in the middle thinks they're on the left, and only the people on the left ever yield to anybody else.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I drive about six hours a day between Seattle Bellevue and Renton. I never enter an intersection before it is clear and I have never waited more than one light cycle (about three minutes). I have seen a number of accidents (including a pedestrian that was killed) caused by people squating, which caused quite a back up. Obey the law.
So Seattle, to Bellevue, to Renton one time?
I'm here all week, folks.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Probably because you are waiting on 405 near the I90 interchange.
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My anecdotal evidence is the opposite of yours.
And not all laws are the same as yours.
So yeah.
http://dmv.ny.gov/about-dmv/chapter-5-intersections-and-turns
That's the only statute I can find for wisconsin specifically talking about making a left turn at an intersection. This says to me you are supposed to wait in the intersection until able to turn.
http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/docs/e-handbook.pdf Page 23
So yeah, intersection squatting is legal in Wisconsin
Even worse than the people who speed to get to the next red light. Because this is a city, and that's how traffic lights work.
Because it's the same concept.
It's allowing for a smooth flow of traffic.
Also, as someone who's dealt with idiots who can't grasp the concept of keeping to the right, it greatly reduces the chance that you'll walk in to someone when turning a corner in a hallway.
I'm not J.
That sounds like something J would say.
In their kinda-defense, some cities have really poorly designed light algorithms that reward speeding. Similarly, the lights in my college town were set to effectively make everyone drive 5-10 mph below the speed limit.
There is a set of lights on my way home from work where the next intersection will turn green and then the pedestrian countdown timer will start at 20 seconds. At 10 seconds my light will turn green and if I can get through the next intersection I will not have to stop again, but if I hit the red I'll have to stop at every other light on my way (this is after midnight, so it's all based on timing). I have to get my car up to 40 in a 30 to hit the stop line as the light turns yellow, but can then coast at speed limit all the way home without stopping. Hitting that red only adds 5 minutes to my commute, but it feels like so much more.
They aren't speeding to a red light, then; they're just driving. I'm mostly referring to the reality in Chicago and close in, built up suburbs. You aren't going to make it through more than two other intersections before the next light turns red, because there are that many cross streets and that many lights. You know this. I know this. Everyone knows this, aside from Hoosiers. And yet.
At best you'll make it through one more, but kind of screw the oncoming car making a left and probably causing the pedestrians to wait a bit longer before getting into the crosswalk which will have a slight cascade and make everybody else take a bit longer to go that extra 1/8th of a mile and catch back up to you a couple cycles later. Bravo.
It's the best when I'm passing traffic at a good pace in the far left lane on my motorcycle and the asshole behind me has decided that 80 mph isn't good enough (which is fine, I'll get over if I see you catching up to me) so he has to tailgate me so closely that I can only see one headlight in each mirror. At which point I move over as soon as safe to let him pass me, often times right as we hit gridlock. Then and only then I wish I was wearing an open face helmet just so he could see my grin as I split right past him.
Are you referring to riding between the lanes and stopped/slowed traffic? Because if so, fuck you. I'd like to do nothing other than open up my door and let you go flying.
How about fuck you? It's legal in California chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html and I follow the guidelines here. There are plenty of geese riding like geese while splitting lanes, and I can't stand them either. I don't force my way where I can't fit, I don't rev my engine or honk my horn. Yeah, I understand that there are jerks and they ride like jerks and they can scare the hell out of drivers and I wish they would get off the road as much as you do.
You know nothing about how I ride and you're saying you'd like to kill or maim me. Goose.
And here it is very illegal. While I would like to do something, it doesn't mean I would because I would feel absolutely horrible for actually doing it.
Sometimes I'd like to shoot my boss, or a customer, or that jack off that just split lanes on a bike. Doesn't mean I ever actually would.
Well then wherever you are they shouldn't split lanes. Do you tell your boss, or customers, that you'd like to shoot them? Why do you feel it's ok to tell me that?
I understand your frustration. We don't have right of way while splitting in CA (says it right in the guidelines), but idiots still force it, sometimes at speeds that are unsafe. Even after I've started riding I've been surprised a couple times by idiot splitters. Hell, I usually give an apology wave if I end up splitting behind an idiot, because I'm the one that people will take their rage out on.
and I'm always like the fuck they do.
But I guess adding a "should" in there costs too much.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Haha, yeah. Hell even a comma would work. I know that if I find an area under construction, I go a different way until whatever it is being worked on is finished.
Question, does it bother you guys if someone splits, not on the freeway or even slow moving traffic on a side street, but at a stoplight?
internet forum. While my post was worded as being directed at you, it really wasn't directed directly at you, was meant in jest, and I really am sorry for offending you.
Thanks for being one of the good guys. Again, I am sorry for offending you like that
Yes because I don't expect another vehicle to be there so I'm not planning for it. It's just another hazard I don't really prepare for. If I'm at a stoplight I'm looking for when the light turns green, I'm almost never checking my mirrors to see if someone is creeping up between lanes.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades