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[Star Wars Films] Broadsword Sabers! TIE Fighters! A Black Lead Character!
Atomika
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Episode VII Master Post:
Cast announced
EU sent packing
Title confirmed: The Force Awakens
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Originally, he was supposed to have a larger role in Revenge of the Sith. There was supposed to be a scene where he confronts the Emperor after he's taken over. The Emperor is all like "why yes, Jar-Jar, I couldn't have done it without you". Jar-Jar then takes this as his cue, rather than oppose the Emperor, to sheepishly fall in line and start asking political favors for the gungans and the Emperor is all like "sure, brah, welcome aboard".
Basically, Jar-Jar's arc was supposed to be a dumb but well-meaning country boy eventually becoming just another self-serving corrupt politician. Similar to Luke's arc, except Jar-Jar goes along with the seduction of the dark side.
Maybe we could use that canon to fire him into the sun.
The story that involved the original cast has been told, and it was wonderful, but it's done now. With Star Trek there was always another mission, another planet to see, another race for Kirk to try and get into bed. With Star Wars it'll be 'what happened decades after the story finished'. It'll be like dropping in on an aging Don Corleone in the late seventies, and no one wants that.
I dunno. Maybe it'll be great.
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Godfather 3 is the Phantom Menace of that series, granted.
A problem I see with writing a new trilogy is that you either have to tie the story into the older films (which is tricky because just about everything was resolved), or come up with a new story that is still somehow compelling enough to include the cast members of the OT, and I think the latter option would probably come across more craven and uninteresting.
But if you're continuing the story of the prior trilogies, what ground is left unexplored? The origin of the Sith? The fate of the New Republic?
He could even write the framework! He is really good at that.
He just needs some solid "idea police" who look at something that is 90% okay, and 10% batshit, and excise the batshit.
There were a few people in the late 70s and early 80s that saved us from the skywalkers being a family of little people hanging out with a C3P0 that talked with a brooklyn car salesman accent.
edit: but this is all moot since he will have no functional role in the continuation of star wars.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
That would have been quite an interesting arc, actually. Give us a perspective on how and why people went along with the fall from Republic to Empire.
I'd heard about how he wrote that when Leia told Han she loved him before he was frozen in carbonite he was supposed to respond with "I love you to" instead of "I know" and that Harrison Ford changed the line himself because every agreed that it just didn't work or fit his character to say "I love you to."
Luke's talking like Yoda and his friends want him to understand that it's just not healthy.
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The former sounds incredibly tedious and the sort of continuity retcon that no one but hardcore fans would care about. It kind of has to be about the New Republic and a new threat, or the resurgence of Sith lords or whatever, and then I gather the plan is for more movies, spin-offs, and a general feeling of If You Liked Star Wars Here's Some More Star Wars We Didn't Pay 4 Billion For This Only To Sit On It.
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I dunno. I completely understand the impulse that led to the creation of the original comics and books and games - the world, as presented, is a big rich canvas for adventure, full of exciting locales, weird critters, heroes and villains, and spaceships going pew-pew. I think there is absolutely a place for the kind of big, pure, Technicolor spectacle that Star Wars represents, unburdened with a lot of modern irony or the need to have every character pointedly turning their iPhone toward the viewer.
The fact that the prequel movies and most of the "expanded universe" were awful is just a function of their being made incompetently or indifferently. And yet there has still be some really terrific Star Wars stuff beyond the movies: the 90s Lucasarts games, the Bioware games, the old West End RPG and so forth. I think they show that this is still a creatively fecund, interesting setting in the right hands.
Now, I'd rather have no Star Wars than bad Star Wars but that's true of almost anything.
It's not Attack Of The Clones bad, but it isn't good.
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They can do whatever they want. Star Wars universe is full of opportunities to explore new material, either based on the EU or new ideas. Lucas not having any ideas except for trilogies doesn't mean anyone else has those limits with the movies.
Well I think that for the average person, if they were Force Sensitive and led kind of a humdrum life - then yes. That is about all it would amount to. But the Darkside feeds on passion and rage. If an unaware Force Sensitive is put into a high stressful situation they could very well tap into the Dark Side unknowingly. Some kid is getting bullied again and again, one day he's had enough and snaps. But instead of a kid finally punching the bully or hitting them with a pipe it goes more like:
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
I agree with you about Abrams, even as someone who has enjoyed a lot of his work, but I can't really think of a guy who gives this a better chance of having a good script than the guy they have doing the script.
I've always had trouble understanding this point of view, as it applies to all sorts of stuff and not just Star Wars. There's often this sentiment that sequels or prequels or remakes are somehow ruining the original content that people love, but I've never felt that way. The prequels haven't changed how much I enjoy the originals, for example. You just mentioned yourself that there has been some terrific stuff to have come out of the Extended Universe, but if we stayed away from More Star Wars for fear of having Bad Star Wars, we never would have had any of the good stuff. Maybe Disney will make four bad Star Wars movies and one good one, but I'd rather have that than no Star Wars movies at all.
Thankfully he hasn't got Kurtzman and Orci for screenwriters. That's a screenwriting team Hollywood needs to stop giving high profile movies to. Ironically they're not as bad on tv.
We've also been getting awesome EU spin-offs with The Clone Wars and now Rebels.
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That could have worked if they didn't make him annoying as fuck
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Ah ok. Actor, duh, I'm pretty dumb today.
I thought that was a character name or something.
Well, it is a rather Star Wars sounding name. Really don't think I could pick it out of a lineup as a real name. Mace Windu, Count Dooku, Syfo Dias, Max Von Sydow, Anakin Skywalker, Leia Organo, Han Solo... It fits with the setting.
Seems like the kind of thing JJ would do. Or Lucas.
Can we not post anything from the following sites:
Latino Review
Ain't It Cool News
CHUD.com
JoBlo.com
Reddit threads with no sources
or any site that sources those five?
Because those are bullshit factories. Those are where nonsense comes from. Yes, sometimes legitimate news comes from those places. Broken clocks are right twice a day, too. But they make their bread and butter off fake casting news, fake script leaks, fan-made photoshopped posters they say are official, etc.
Can we, as a group of people, just fucking not?
Please?
Putin is going to be the star of Star Wars VII as Luke's kick ass older brother who wrestles wampas barechested.
...I'll allow it.
As OP of this thread, I have no problem with this.
I generally have no desire to entertain rumors here. There be wankery of the highest sort.
Chet Fett?