[Phalla] indie series: Snitch - FBI (Snitch) Victory

enlightenedbum

20 days, actually.

Preda

Quick and dirty vote count...
4 Gizzy- Megafrost , Phyphor, Ebum, ketbra
4 enlightenedbum- Preda, Baidol, Slym, kime
2 Megafrost- TA, CesareB
2 MrT- Cythraul, Drez
Phyphor- MrT
Lucedes- Lonelyhava
Lonelyhava- Lucedes
Preda- Hedgethorn
Assuran- Sepah
Hedgethorn- Auralynx
Kime- Capfalcon, Ketbra
drez- discrider
Baidol- Assuran, Kime
Ketbra- Gizzy
Auralynx- ebum, Bedlam
CesareB- Shalmelo
Flarne- jpants
Langley- INATP
IATP- Langley
Slym- Kime
Bedlam- Flarne

enlightenedbum

And yeah, Preda for me is the vote I missed. Bah.

Flarne

Well that tie seems dumb.

Gizzy then.

ahava

gizzy .

This is not easy on a phone on a bus.

Preda

Right now Ebum, gizzy and ketbra are going, better if only Gizzy do...

ahava

Oi! Stop copying!

ObiFett

Vote closed

ObiFett

Day 2

FBI Arrests Low Level Organization Members

Ken Johnson
June 16 2014, 10:05PM

Chicago - The FBI continued their relentless pursuit of the Organization today arresting three allegedly crucial members of the crime syndicate. Two of the arrested are being accused of masterminding multiple bank jobs and being behind 90% of the drug trade in the streets of Chicago [names withheld]. The third member arrested has immediately entered a counter-suit against the state, claiming misconduct by the arresting agents. "It was a total frame job. They've had their eyes on me from the beginning and when I showed up clean, they planted the drugs and guns in my car," claims Gizzy. The FBI reports this is just the beginning of the arrests to be made and continues to ask for members of the Organization to come forward in exchange for immunity and protection.

Shalmelo was detained in connection with the aforementioned arrests, but has been released due to "insufficient evidence".

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Eliminated:
Gizzy (Organization Member) - Entrapment?
Baidol (Organization Member) - Arrested
MrTlicious (Organization Member) - Arrested

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Day 2 ends at 10pm MST on Tuesday. Vote to remove someone from the game with a red vote

All actions should be submitted in the same PM that you received your role.

PMs are going out now

MrTLicious

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Been a while since I've been threat killed.

Feels good.

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ObiFett

PMs are out, if you think you should have gotten a result PM and didn't, feel free to ask.

Phyphor

Wow, last minute gizzy push

KetBra

That you were part of ? :P

Auralynx

So, Preda, with Egos gone you're on vote guy duty.

Preda

Vote count, refreshed and complete as required!

7 Gizzy- Megafrost (5) , Phyphor (29), Ebum (32), ketbra (33), Flarne (34), lonelyhava (35), Preda (36)
3 enlightenedbum- Preda (14), Baidol(15), Slym (27), kime (30)
2 Megafrost- TA (7), CesareB (16)
2 MrT- Cythraul (2), Drez (9)
1 Lonelyhava- Lucedes (1)
1 Phyphor- MrT (3)
1 Preda- Hedgethorn (6) Hedgethorn(10) (corrected redacted vote)
1 Assuran- Sepah (8)
1 Hedgethorn- Auralynx (11)
1 Kime- Capfalcon (12), Ketbra (26)
1 drez- discrider (13)
1 Baidol- Assuran (17), Kime (23)
1 Ketbra- Gizzy(18)
1 Auralynx- ebum (19), Bedlam (25)
1 CesareB- Shalmelo (20)
1 Flarne- jpants (21)
1 Langley- INATP (22)
1 IATP- Langley (24)
0 Lucedes- Lonelyhava (4)
0 Slym- Kime (28)
0 Bedlam- Flarne (31)

Everyone voted

discrider

Drez because consistency.

discrider

Although, what's up with Shalmelo in the narration?
Seems to me that being released due to "insufficient evidence" is something that would happen to a snitch.
Unless maybe we have a loose cannon cop running around.

Auralynx

discrider wrote: »

Although, what's up with Shalmelo in the narration?
Seems to me that being released due to "insufficient evidence" is something that would happen to a snitch.
Unless maybe we have a loose cannon cop running around.

Sounds like a guarded kill attempt or a sneakily-narrated roleblock to me.

discrider

I don't think it's a roleblock. Or at least not a Favor fueled one.
That'd be way too harsh a mechanic on the snitches.
And is four kills a day viable with this number of players?

"Protective custody" could be a thing, but that would be a Snitch aligned power.

Auralynx

Depending on the size of the mafia, how fast Obi wants the game to end and whether it's really four kills a day or some people who started with extra favor creating a crossfire, that's not an impossible Day 1 scenario, but it's a heck of a read on guarding Shalmelo if so.

Auralynx

T-proposal, revised: It seems close to certain there's a snitch in the Gizzy wagon somewhere. If you're casting a vote just to fish for favor, it should probably be on one of those players.

CesareB

Auralynx wrote: »

T-proposal, revised: It seems close to certain there's a snitch in the Gizzy wagon somewhere. If you're casting a vote just to fish for favor, it should probably be on one of those players.

Is the chance that any particular player on the Gizzy wagon is a snitch notably higher than the chance that any random player is one? If so, why do you think that? Just because it was a late wagon?

Auralynx

Because it was a late wagon on a regular Org member. I rather doubt everyone on there is one, but I'd guess we're looking at 1 or 2 in 7 there, versus, what, 3 or 4 in 19 outside it?

Admittedly, my math is good enough to see that our odds are better in the raw off the wagon, but it's a lot harder to cover the other 19 in votes.

Assuran

The FBI killed Baidol on his first game back? Bad form. Bad form.

discrider

I don't see anything too peculiar in the late Gizzy wagon, that is like the last 3 people.
Seems to me to have been a late village rush on someone so that they don't cause a tie.
Ebum was third vote on in self-preservation too.

If anything, I'm looking at the people who didn't follow MrT's lead and voted second on wagons, and so am still happy with my Drez vote and I'm looking at Phyphor's one word second vote on Gizzy very suspiciously.

You've also got INATP and Langly who voted for each other, which may be a ploy if the Snitches want roleblocks early and run off the same Favor system as Org players.

But chances are it's day 1 analysis and I have everything wrong anyway.

Drez

discrider wrote: »

I don't see anything too peculiar in the late Gizzy wagon, that is like the last 3 people.
Seems to me to have been a late village rush on someone so that they don't cause a tie.
Ebum was third vote on in self-preservation too.

If anything, I'm looking at the people who didn't follow MrT's lead and voted second on wagons, and so am still happy with my Drez vote and I'm looking at Phyphor's one word second vote on Gizzy very suspiciously.

You've also got INATP and Langly who voted for each other, which may be a ploy if the Snitches want roleblocks early and run off the same Favor system as Org players.

But chances are it's day 1 analysis and I have everything wrong anyway.

I vaguely recall you having a hard on for me in some other phalla, discrider, in the days of yore.

I don't really care if you vote for me or not, but let's be clear here. Yes, I was the second vote for MrT. Are you suggesting that a single vote on someone is a bandwagon? Do you know what a bandwagon is?

As for not following MrT's lead, uh, I still don't recommend it. No offense to him, but I'm not really interested in playing in some boring mathematical way. You might as well just replace me with Geth and program him to vote a certain way every day. I mean, it may come to that in the end, but not now.

If it makes me suspicious to you that I'd prefer not to blindly follow the plan of someone on Day One who we know nothing about and without understanding all the powers at play, then all I can say is: lol.

discrider

Tch.
2 people might not be a very large wagon, but it was the size of the leader at the time.
Just because a wagon doesn't get wheels doesn't make it not a wagon. It just makes whoever's trying to push it look a bit silly.

Drez

discrider wrote: »

Tch.
2 people might not be a very large wagon, but it was the size of the leader at the time.
Just because a wagon doesn't get wheels doesn't make it not a wagon. It just makes whoever's trying to push it look a bit silly.

What?

Try making sense, please. The size of the leader? I must have missed where it wasn't day one and MrT was somehow more important than anyone else on day one.

Annnnway, that's all I'm going to say on this. Not going to get dragged into a distracting debate with you over nonsense.

Baidol

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Langly

Auralynx wrote: »

discrider wrote: »

Although, what's up with Shalmelo in the narration?
Seems to me that being released due to "insufficient evidence" is something that would happen to a snitch.
Unless maybe we have a loose cannon cop running around.

Sounds like a guarded kill attempt or a sneakily-narrated roleblock to me.

yeah my read of that is we didn't have a vig kill, sounds like shalmelo was guarded from it. Doesn't mean anything other than that he was guarded. I guess our guard is like a high-powered lawyer.

kime

Langly, I was thinking along those same lines. Just seems a bit weird actually that our vig would also arrest people, but it's possible.

We also just may not have a vig, given the chance of having several a few days from now.

Megafrost

Maybe the mafia can target people based on things they say (in private or in public) and Shalmelo did not trigger it?

kime

Megafrost wrote: »

Maybe the mafia can target people based on things they say (in private or in public) and Shalmelo did not trigger it?

That's a pretty good and scary thought.

But I kind of doubt it? Obi's done stuff like that before, but this game seems to be focusing on other mechanics.

Megafrost

It might be the case that the primary and secondary kills go through no matter what and there is a tertiary kill that only triggers in certain conditions. There has to be some balancing factor to potentially the entire village having a one-shot seer.

kime

The balancing factor is that it'll be hard for that to ever happen, and it's possible the village will never have a seer. Or vig.

SLyM

I think the balancing factor is that the mafia know who is getting close to having a seer and can kill them off any time they want unless someone else also knows they're close to a seer and decides to guard them.

kime

And we don't necessarily know if we are getting close to a seering or not, so yeah.

JPants

Megafrost wrote: »

It might be the case that the primary and secondary kills go through no matter what and there is a tertiary kill that only triggers in certain conditions. There has to be some balancing factor to potentially the entire village having a one-shot seer.

Maybe an SK or a neutral Hunter type role that is looking for a specific role or has specific conditions that have to be met for their kill to actually kill.

shalmelo

Based on the combination of the narration and the PM I received from Obi, it appears that I was targeted by a FBI-aligned roleblock. I guess it's sort of flavorful for the target of that to be public....odd.

Preda

It kind of have the sound of a roleblock...

Meanwhile I'll start with Enlightenedbum tonight too to see what happen...