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I don't really trust most companies, especially small ones, to come up with a stringent cultural fit process that doesn't end up being a bunch of bullshit that facilitates fucking over minorities and women. Supposedly far more objective reviews are rife with racism and sexism.
The only acceptable culture is not being dicks to each other.
I like treating everyone like they're human beings.
i only hate people from belgium
French or Flemish?
doesnt matter
once that german flag turns sideways i see red
(and white
and blue)
Pff, that is amateur-grade hate. A real man wouldn't recognise French Belgium.
look we are new at this soccer thing you fucking redcoat
I think he's just bitter because the redcoats didn't even get the opportunity to lose to some crappy little quasi-french bakery with a vegetable for a capital city.
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
again, the question isn't whether they could 'find a job in the field'. i am not saying every programming job needs a tech interview. talking past me.
One of my coworkers recently got in trouble for giving written technical tests. We aren't supposed to do that unless they're reviewed by legal. Im glad he got shut down on that because his tests were p bullshit hard. Everything about hiring is already terrible, there's no need to make it worse!
The only acceptable culture is not being dicks to each other.
I like treating everyone like they're human beings.
i only hate people from belgium
French or Flemish?
doesnt matter
once that german flag turns sideways i see red
(and white
and blue)
Pff, that is amateur-grade hate. A real man wouldn't recognise French Belgium.
look we are new at this soccer thing you fucking redcoat
I think he's just bitter because the redcoats didn't even get the opportunity to lose to some crappy little quasi-french bakery with a vegetable for a capital city.
We knew going in we were fucked. It was pleasantly surprising how many big European teams got their shit handed to them in the group round.
again, the question isn't whether they could 'find a job in the field'. i am not saying every programming job needs a tech interview. talking past me.
But you would have the skills, it's something that's teachable.
I can't teach you how to not act like a social recluse at the job, though.
What you're saying is that all technical interviews should be conducted by a saucy HR intern, who will report on whether the candidate was able to make eye contact more than once.
The hard part is doing it in a 110° environment for eight straight hours with everyone yelling things at you (because it's loud in there) and every order having a special substitution.
Yeah over the past year I've been discovering that being able to cook something edible is just about not being a pussy and following some instructions. Things might be a bit over/underdone but it'll be nice enough and you get better at timing shit as time goes on.
edit: obviously I am not in the slightest bit suitable for a job as a chef because I would not deal well with that level of stress etc at all.
Yes, dealing with stress is pretty much the difference between being a great cook at home and a great restaurant employee.
Or drinking enough to not notice the stress.
But other than a few specialized techniques, cooking is almost entirely about doing it a lot and learning how to taste things.
Also being consistent enough that you rarely/never ruin food, and you rarely/never produce something that is edible but not exactly what you were expecting.
If my spicy chicken fajitas turn out spicier than usual, I'm fine with that. If that happens to a customer, they might be displeased.
Feral on
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
again, the question isn't whether they could 'find a job in the field'. i am not saying every programming job needs a tech interview. talking past me.
But you would have the skills, it's something that's teachable.
I can't teach you how to not act like a social recluse at the job, though.
What you're saying is that all technical interviews should be conducted by a saucy HR intern, who will report on whether the candidate was able to make eye contact more than once.
And make note of if they've cleaned themselves.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
again, the question isn't whether they could 'find a job in the field'. i am not saying every programming job needs a tech interview. talking past me.
One of my coworkers recently got in trouble for giving written technical tests. We aren't supposed to do that unless they're reviewed by legal. Im glad he got shut down on that because his tests were p bullshit hard. Everything about hiring is already terrible, there's no need to make it worse!
They should use written tests, though.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
The hard part is doing it in a 110° environment for eight straight hours with everyone yelling things at you (because it's loud in there) and every order having a special substitution.
Yeah over the past year I've been discovering that being able to cook something edible is just about not being a pussy and following some instructions. Things might be a bit over/underdone but it'll be nice enough and you get better at timing shit as time goes on.
edit: obviously I am not in the slightest bit suitable for a job as a chef because I would not deal well with that level of stress etc at all.
Yes, dealing with stress is pretty much the difference between being a great cook at home and a great restaurant employee.
Or drinking enough to not notice the stress.
But other than a few specialized techniques, cooking is almost entirely about doing it a lot and learning how to taste things.
Also being consistent enough that you rarely/never ruin food, and you rarely/never produce something that is edible but not exactly what you were expecting.
If my spicy chicken fajitas turn out spicier than usual, I'm fine with that. If that happens to a customer, they might be displeased.
That's what prep work is for. Most stuff in not high-end places is already seasoned and portioned to a large extent if it's a place that's concerned about consistency.
Everytime I look at a job listing that talks about cultural fit, I shudder.
Every interviewer you speak to is looking at you in part based on how you'd fit the group culture.
Of course they do. And hiring diversity follows as expected.
O.o
Im pretty sure if you're reading it on a job req, they mean "corporate culture".
I'm pretty sure he knows that.
And I'm pretty sure his point is what that actually leads to is low-diversity hiring.
I'm mean pretty much the more subjective you make a hiring practice, the more biased it will be towards people like the interviewer.
Im pretty sure he doesn't. Corporate or organizational culture is a thing wholly distinct from diversity.
Not really.
In-person interviews tend to skew candidate selection in two ways:
Interviewers prefer people who fit the stereotype of the position they're hiring for, in terms of personality, mannerisms, and physical appearance.
Interviewers prefer people who are similar to them, in terms of personality, mannerisms, and physical appearance.
If all of the salespeople at your company are white and male and gregarious, and the person interviewing you is white and male and gregarious, you have an enormous advantage if you're a gregarious white male.
This is why, whenever possible (such as for technical jobs) you should screen candidates before the interview with an aptitude test.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
"Corporate culture" is such a vague bullshit concept that if you're basing your hiring decisions around it you are probably discriminating and don't even know it.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
The hard part is doing it in a 110° environment for eight straight hours with everyone yelling things at you (because it's loud in there) and every order having a special substitution.
Yeah over the past year I've been discovering that being able to cook something edible is just about not being a pussy and following some instructions. Things might be a bit over/underdone but it'll be nice enough and you get better at timing shit as time goes on.
edit: obviously I am not in the slightest bit suitable for a job as a chef because I would not deal well with that level of stress etc at all.
Yes, dealing with stress is pretty much the difference between being a great cook at home and a great restaurant employee.
Or drinking enough to not notice the stress.
But other than a few specialized techniques, cooking is almost entirely about doing it a lot and learning how to taste things.
Also being consistent enough that you rarely/never ruin food, and you rarely/never produce something that is edible but not exactly what you were expecting.
If my spicy chicken fajitas turn out spicier than usual, I'm fine with that. If that happens to a customer, they might be displeased.
That's what prep work is for. Most stuff in not high-end places is already seasoned and portioned to a large extent if it's a place that's concerned about consistency.
So much this.
That fancy steak you ordered at the steakhouse isn't being pulled out of the styrofoam and plastic when you place your order - it has already been salted and sitting pooling in that awesome juice the salted steak makes and reaching room temp for perfect searing for some time before the order is actually placed.
and it was done with lots and lots of steaks.
And huge batches of creamed spinach, mac and cheese, etc.
Like, they will scoop the earlier-made mac and cheese into the bowl, top it with the cheese and breadcrumbs and throw that in a salamander for a hot minute.
Prep is god.
SW-4158-3990-6116
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
"Corporate culture" is such a vague bullshit concept that if you're basing your hiring decisions around it you are probably discriminating and don't even know it.
Herding cats is hard times.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
again, the question isn't whether they could 'find a job in the field'. i am not saying every programming job needs a tech interview. talking past me.
But you would have the skills, it's something that's teachable.
I can't teach you how to not act like a social recluse at the job, though.
What you're saying is that all technical interviews should be conducted by a saucy HR intern, who will report on whether the candidate was able to make eye contact more than once.
And make note of if they've cleaned themselves.
People are shocked when I say I'm one of the more socially functional programmers at my company. There's a lot of guys who can barely look you in the face after knowing them for 5+ years
again, the question isn't whether they could 'find a job in the field'. i am not saying every programming job needs a tech interview. talking past me.
But you would have the skills, it's something that's teachable.
I can't teach you how to not act like a social recluse at the job, though.
What you're saying is that all technical interviews should be conducted by a saucy HR intern, who will report on whether the candidate was able to make eye contact more than once.
And make note of if they've cleaned themselves.
People are shocked when I say I'm one of the more socially functional programmers at my company. There's a lot of guys who can barely look you in the face after knowing them for 5+ years
You get that in interviews too.
I've had 2-3 of them drop the "You seem like a real good fit, most programmers tend to be shy and not say much or look me in the eyes."
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
Oven-roasted veg is still one of my favourite things to make.
It's beyond simple and yet tastes so fucking delicious.
nooooooo
What, why not?
vegetable
If, as an adult, you are unable to eat vegetables.
Then you need to grow up.
Assuming you don't have genuine hypersensitivities.
+1
surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
only vegetable not comunism is potato
+3
ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
Hell, one fancy place I worked did an average of like 12 (really expensive) covers a night and we'd still have all the meals mostly prepped and just needing to be cooked.
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nooooooo
program me a robot servant to do the job you're applying for
You're right. She is perfect for me.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
I think he's just bitter because the redcoats didn't even get the opportunity to lose to some crappy little quasi-french bakery with a vegetable for a capital city.
One of my coworkers recently got in trouble for giving written technical tests. We aren't supposed to do that unless they're reviewed by legal. Im glad he got shut down on that because his tests were p bullshit hard. Everything about hiring is already terrible, there's no need to make it worse!
We knew going in we were fucked. It was pleasantly surprising how many big European teams got their shit handed to them in the group round.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
But you would have the skills, it's something that's teachable.
I can't teach you how to not act like a social recluse at the job, though.
What you're saying is that all technical interviews should be conducted by a saucy HR intern, who will report on whether the candidate was able to make eye contact more than once.
Also being consistent enough that you rarely/never ruin food, and you rarely/never produce something that is edible but not exactly what you were expecting.
If my spicy chicken fajitas turn out spicier than usual, I'm fine with that. If that happens to a customer, they might be displeased.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
And make note of if they've cleaned themselves.
*adjusts tie*
They should use written tests, though.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
it's p cool, you might understand more about it than I did
let me dig it up
dat collar roll, tho
That's what prep work is for. Most stuff in not high-end places is already seasoned and portioned to a large extent if it's a place that's concerned about consistency.
Not really.
In-person interviews tend to skew candidate selection in two ways:
Interviewers prefer people who fit the stereotype of the position they're hiring for, in terms of personality, mannerisms, and physical appearance.
Interviewers prefer people who are similar to them, in terms of personality, mannerisms, and physical appearance.
If all of the salespeople at your company are white and male and gregarious, and the person interviewing you is white and male and gregarious, you have an enormous advantage if you're a gregarious white male.
This is why, whenever possible (such as for technical jobs) you should screen candidates before the interview with an aptitude test.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
yup
i've seen a few things like that but yours was probably the coolest
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
What, why not?
oh I see
you just not gonna say shit
not gonna dap or join in the conversation
is lurkin what's hot in the streets playboy
But then I remembered the rest of the football playing world might have a problem with that.
"World football"?
So much this.
That fancy steak you ordered at the steakhouse isn't being pulled out of the styrofoam and plastic when you place your order - it has already been salted and sitting pooling in that awesome juice the salted steak makes and reaching room temp for perfect searing for some time before the order is actually placed.
and it was done with lots and lots of steaks.
And huge batches of creamed spinach, mac and cheese, etc.
Like, they will scoop the earlier-made mac and cheese into the bowl, top it with the cheese and breadcrumbs and throw that in a salamander for a hot minute.
Prep is god.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Herding cats is hard times.
People are shocked when I say I'm one of the more socially functional programmers at my company. There's a lot of guys who can barely look you in the face after knowing them for 5+ years
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AMERICAAAAA FUCK YEAH!
You get that in interviews too.
I've had 2-3 of them drop the "You seem like a real good fit, most programmers tend to be shy and not say much or look me in the eyes."
vegetable
I have not heard that in ages!
It is delightful.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/07/02/virginia-twin-peaks-x-files-inspired-game/
If, as an adult, you are unable to eat vegetables.
Then you need to grow up.
Assuming you don't have genuine hypersensitivities.