2015 PRE-PAX SOUTH FORUMERS DINNER (Not Affiliated with PAX)Thursday, January 22, 2015 from 5:30 PM to 7:00 PM (Dinner will end promptly when Pub Crawl Begins)Ticket Sales End on January 5th, there will be NO ONSITE tickets available.Ticket Linkhttp://eventbrite.com/e/2015-pre-pax-south-forumers-dinner-not-affiliated-with-pax-tickets-13206981437
A Sit Down Dinner and Social event for people to meet up with other Attendees. There maybe some surprises too

Schilo’s Delicatessen, a San Antonio institution
http://schilos.com
$ 25.00 Price per Person includes the following Menu, All Tax and All Gratuities at 20%.
BEVERAGES (At least 1 Refill Included per person) - Root Beer, Soda, Coffee, Iced Tea, Hot Teas
TWO CHOICES FOR ENTREE
Wiener schnitzel - Breaded and pan fried pork loin with Home Fries
Vegetarian - Croissant filled with cucumber, cream cheese, sprouts, lettuce & tomato, with fruit cup
DESSERT - Miss Irma’s Apple Streusel with Ice Cream
CASH BAR FOR - Beer & Wine
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In my 4 year PAX Experience- ALL ARE WELCOME! We really just get to know each other, eat some food, play some games, and gear up to drink ourselves silly! Me +3 are planning on attending!
So far no luck finalizing anything in the usual $ 25.00 price range. All the contracts I am being sent ask me to guarantee that there will be some obscene amount of money spent at the bar with my personal credit card. The Iron cactus price for a sit down would be almost 35 a person and limited to 40 people.... YUCK. Anyone familiar with the are have any other ideas ?
Thanks
PS Anyone who attends PAX can go to dinner, you don't ever have to have posted to the site. If you know about it, and you buy a ticket, you are welcome.
Acenar: Mexican food, 5 different rooms seating 50 to 500 -- http://acenar.com/mexican/?page_id=4
Lukes: New Orleans food, 3 different rooms seating 150 each -- http://lukesanantonio.com/menu
Lukes looks semi fancy. My personal vote is for Acenar, it looks fun. If you need help calling around, let me know. I used to work in a call center, so I'm used to harassing strangers for information.
Five minutes later - www.schilos.com is a deli .5mi away that hosts private parties (nothing bout capacity, though). They make their own root beer and have blackberry cobbler
I'm all agog. What's the new place you're talking to?
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Cheese Enchilada, Pork Tamale, Crispy Beef Taco Served with Spanish Rice, Refried Beans Guacamole & Chile con Queso also includes appetizer, soft drinks, and dessert (Mexican Flan).
Base ticket 40.00 include tax and gratuity and ticketing fees (waiting on final price) - VIP Ticket $ 50.00
How does this sound?
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/pax-south-2015-pre-pax-dinner-tickets-13206981437?aff=eorg
Ticket Sales will go live once everything is confirmed with restaurant.
Pins!
Some questions:
What is a VIP ticket for in this context? I see VIP events as a nebulous phrase on the eventbrite, but that should be a bit more well defined.
The most recent prime pre pax dinner got < 100 people, iirc. You have 250 as your planned number for the venue? What happens if you get less than 250? Also it was under $30, custom catered, in Seattle. The price point here really does seem oddly high (although I haven't done any research to back that up, maybe SA is just high for group events, even though everything else seems cheaper than other big cities).
If this is a charity event, you need to say so, and have a plan for that, that's more than just "we'll pass along any donations we get". If it's not a charity event, why mention Child's Play at all? Why would donations need to go through you, and therefore, eventbrite? Just link to the Child's Play donation page, no need or reason to have some separate "donation for Child's Play" category on eventbrite, it muddies the waters. Not everything needs to be a charity event, there are plenty of opportunities to donate to Child's Play.
The meal itself is 28.75 + tax and gratuity which preliminary estimates come to about 37.50 a person for the sit down dinner (Buffet in Boston was Unmitigated Disaster, and I dont want to repeat that. I never did Seattle so don't know how they work it there. Then the fee for Event Bright is about 3.50 a ticket which I built into the cost, so technically its 41 a person but I thought a weird number like that was bad so I rounded down to 40. The restaurant has 2 rooms available for us. The first is the Patio which can only seat 50, the second is the main dining room which is for overflow above 50. Unless we book 150 people (not likely) we can not guarantee exclusive use of the main dining room which hold 200 people maximum. The number of available tickets is thus 250. I don't expect we will sell that many, but don't want to limit it to the point where people who want to be there will be left out.
The 50.00 VIP is basically so people who feel like paying a little extra can be guaranteed a seat on the Patio in the main group. As I don't want to deal with refunds to individual (read as to lazy too deal with) people if final price at restaurant is lower due to quantity of sales, I was going to throw all extra money to Child's Play. As I was making that point in my draft, I thought I would give people an opportunity to add more to any "Leftover" funds going to Child Play, so I added the optional donation, but on second look, Your right the optional donation for CP is probably unnecessary clutter, and I think I will remove that.
As far a price point, YES it is obscene. I have contacted about 15 restaurants and 10 hotels and the sticker shock to me was overwhelming. One example is Iron Cactus who despite having 16.99 menu items wanted 35.00 a person not including App, Any Drinks or Dessert , tax or gratuity and would not book the reservation unless I guaranteed on a credit card that $2500 would be spent at the bar on top of the food costs. Also the 35.00 did not include a 500 SETUP fee either. Most other places would only do a buffet style (which is a drop dead deal breaker to me) for around 30-40 a person (not including tax or gratuity) after Boston (yeah I am harping on Boston because 25.00 a person for 2 people who only got to split 3 chicken fingers between then was wrong in oh so many ways). I am certainly open to alternatives which is why I am making everything public, and anyone wishing to see the accounting is more then welcome to question and review anything about this event. I have found a couple of places off the beaten path that could do it for around 30 a person and include everything, but all of those require transportation to get to, which most people will not have. The downside of San Antonio is the Public Transportation system is a complete mess if you go more then a mile from downtown, so the $ 30 a person place would be a $ 10.00 cab ride.
As far as the PAX logo, I was told as long as I was not making a profit and made it clear the event was FAN based, I could include it. If there is an issue with it, I can remove it with out issue.
Tickets have not, and will not go on sale until everyone is ok with everything, which is the purpose of this posting in the first place. Nothing is final, the Eventbrite Page is just a place holder. Everyone's input is welcome. The goal is to have a nice meal with old forum friends and new PAX friends and unwind after a long trip so we are ready to attack the booths the next morning. I see myself as the facilitator only, and answerable to each and every forum member who wishes to attend. I will not be insulted or offended if someone does not like something, or questions something. So feel free to suggest or contact other place on your own and let me know if anyone finds a better location.
Hope that clarifies everything for everyone.
Schilos for the record, never returned my call on pricing and fees. If people are interested in this place, I can certainly push a little harder in that direction. I am not a big Mexican food fan to begin with so a European Brat House would work for me
Dolarrah (AKA CHRIS)
Now this is just a wild-ass idea I came up with on my lunch break, so I'm sure it's full of holes. I know it isn't vegan-friendly, it would require a certain amount of coordination and the weather would be a factor, but maybe those are things we can iron out? I just wanted to put it out there because folks didn't seem too happy with existing options, but this would be a legit Texas experience.
Pins!
I thought the exact same thing last night. Not that particular place, but a park and bringing food in. The park reservation rates for San Antonio are actually really reasonable.