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But for a long time, the Mother fan community was the least toxic group of gamers I've ever known
Those games are so good, too
instead of death threats and identity theft they made extremely well put-together fanart books and created a professional-grade localization of Mother 3
I always love little community projects like this, they're pretty heartwarming
The attempt to bring Mother 3 to the English-speaking world was like Operation Rainfall, five years earlier
It failed, but it was a huge and aggressive campaign - letter-writing, e-mails, Club Nintendo surveys, calling in to customer feedback lines, the works - and people who participated would do these things once a week for a period of a month
I was part of that
And I owned a Japanese copy of the game. Still do. I also own the (absolutely rad) physical guide that the translation team ended up putting together. The Franklin Badge is still my favorite keychain I own. Solid. Heavy. Really special-feeling.
The attempt to bring Mother 3 to the English-speaking world was like Operation Rainfall, five years earlier
It failed, but it was a huge and aggressive campaign - letter-writing, e-mails, Club Nintendo surveys, calling in to customer feedback lines, the works - and people who participated would do these things once a week for a period of a month
I was part of that
And I owned a Japanese copy of the game. Still do. I also own the (absolutely rad) physical guide that the translation team ended up putting together. The Franklin Badge is still my favorite keychain I own. Solid. Heavy. Really special-feeling.
Man I was in love with that game
I like you Wyborn
Its cool to see people connect with games this deeply
I don't really think there are many (any?) games I like this much
reminder that the earthbound fan community offered to relinquish all rights to the translation patch to nintendo if they would release Mother 3 on the virtual console, making the costs of releasing the game in english speaking territories effectively 0
and they refused
There are legal reasons why they couldn't do that. By accepting and using a fan translation, they are legitimizing what boils down to a mod of the game, and Nintendo's really particular about keeping their products close to their chest. They don't want anyone to go in there and fuck with what they approved, period. Not to mention how that translation is closely associated with people pirating the game, so any publicity of them doing that would lead to knowledge that you can totally download this game for free on the internet and get the same experience.
I know the translation is really high quality and we'd be lucky to have one as good in an official release, but the way people keep bringing this up like they're crazy not to just sidesteps the fact that they have entire teams of lawyers telling them DEFINITELY DON'T DO THAT.
Mother 3 is the rare game where it's easily in the running for best games I've ever played but I've only played it once
Now granted I played it back when my family was dissolving and I was living alone for the first time in my life, separated from my original support network by thousands of miles, and my feelings about my parents were reaching the final stages of a very long series of changes
It was very precisely engineered to annihilate me
People it might also do this to: adolescent people, young mothers, young fathers, twins, university students, genderqueer people, the aged
I'm pretty sure I'm not capable of putting together a well thought out post on all the crappy stuff going on lately.
But I keep thinking of my time off and on in World of Warcraft. The amount of just toxic crap that would go on in there in on a constant basis in chat. And how strange it seemed that it had reached a weird "it is what it is" level of acceptance. That basically any time I'd pop back in to play again after a hiatus, I'd go out of my way to find a specifically LGBT friendly guild to at least find a group of folks to chat with that likely wouldn't be quite so bad (not always). And then I'd have to wonder is every server generally like this? And I'm already losing my point here. But that mixed with your average depiction of a COD or Halo match voice chat. I feel like unconsciously as a whole the gaming community whatever you want to call it, bred this by establishing a really low bar for behavior standards. It's obviously not clear cut or simple or restricted to just gaming etc. But the fact that all of that just became the norm in many places has probably taught a whole generation of people some really screwed up lessons on how to behave in regards to other people online. The main way to avoid those things became forming your own separate secluded communities while the general pop/pub communities just got worse and worse.
Mother 3 is the rare game where it's easily in the running for best games I've ever played but I've only played it once
Now granted I played it back when my family was dissolving and I was living alone for the first time in my life, separated from my original support network by thousands of miles, and my feelings about my parents were reaching the final stages of a very long series of changes
It was very precisely engineered to annihilate me
People it might also do this to: adolescent people, young mothers, young fathers, twins, university students, genderqueer people, the aged
The only thing that comes close to this for me is ff9
Acceptance of mortality was not something I was really prepared to face at the time
reminder that the earthbound fan community offered to relinquish all rights to the translation patch to nintendo if they would release Mother 3 on the virtual console, making the costs of releasing the game in english speaking territories effectively 0
and they refused
I am 100% sure there are legitimate reasons why they couldn't just take a translation made by random internet people
Even with, like, signed legal documents from every person that worked on it there are too many potential people involved in an unofficial translation who might raise a legal stink
I begrudge Nintendo many things related to Mother but this is not one.
Edit or what simben said while I was talking to a customer
I would love for Cody Rhodes to one day stop by the Giant Bomb offices and do his yearly playthough of Link To The Past. Perhaps in character as Stardust.
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I'm pretty sure I'm not capable of putting together a well thought out post on all the crappy stuff going on lately.
But I keep thinking of my time off and on in World of Warcraft. The amount of just toxic crap that would go on in there in on a constant basis in chat. And how strange it seemed that it had reached a weird "it is what it is" level of acceptance. That basically any time I'd pop back in to play again after a hiatus, I'd go out of my way to find a specifically LGBT friendly guild to at least find a group of folks to chat with that likely wouldn't be quite so bad (not always). And then I'd have to wonder is every server generally like this? And I'm already losing my point here. But that mixed with your average depiction of a COD or Halo match voice chat. I feel like unconsciously as a whole the gaming community whatever you want to call it, bred this by establishing a really low bar for behavior standards. It's obviously not clear cut or simple or restricted to just gaming etc. But the fact that all of that just became the norm in many places has probably taught a whole generation of people some really screwed up lessons on how to behave in regards to other people online. The main way to avoid those things became forming your own separate secluded communities while the general pop/pub communities just got worse and worse.
Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large.
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I always love little community projects like this, they're pretty heartwarming
I would try out a Metal Gear MOBA
It failed, but it was a huge and aggressive campaign - letter-writing, e-mails, Club Nintendo surveys, calling in to customer feedback lines, the works - and people who participated would do these things once a week for a period of a month
I was part of that
And I owned a Japanese copy of the game. Still do. I also own the (absolutely rad) physical guide that the translation team ended up putting together. The Franklin Badge is still my favorite keychain I own. Solid. Heavy. Really special-feeling.
Man I was in love with that game
I like you Wyborn
Its cool to see people connect with games this deeply
I don't really think there are many (any?) games I like this much
Oh man. Imagine North West being a grown adult who comes up with her own clothing like and calls it "North"
Then we could have "North" by North West.
There are legal reasons why they couldn't do that. By accepting and using a fan translation, they are legitimizing what boils down to a mod of the game, and Nintendo's really particular about keeping their products close to their chest. They don't want anyone to go in there and fuck with what they approved, period. Not to mention how that translation is closely associated with people pirating the game, so any publicity of them doing that would lead to knowledge that you can totally download this game for free on the internet and get the same experience.
I know the translation is really high quality and we'd be lucky to have one as good in an official release, but the way people keep bringing this up like they're crazy not to just sidesteps the fact that they have entire teams of lawyers telling them DEFINITELY DON'T DO THAT.
Now granted I played it back when my family was dissolving and I was living alone for the first time in my life, separated from my original support network by thousands of miles, and my feelings about my parents were reaching the final stages of a very long series of changes
It was very precisely engineered to annihilate me
People it might also do this to: adolescent people, young mothers, young fathers, twins, university students, genderqueer people, the aged
I think Nintendo actually has broken this particular rule before
If I remember, Other M was advertised using Theophany's "Alone in the Universe" which was part of a Metroid fan album
But then I might be remembering wrong
But I keep thinking of my time off and on in World of Warcraft. The amount of just toxic crap that would go on in there in on a constant basis in chat. And how strange it seemed that it had reached a weird "it is what it is" level of acceptance. That basically any time I'd pop back in to play again after a hiatus, I'd go out of my way to find a specifically LGBT friendly guild to at least find a group of folks to chat with that likely wouldn't be quite so bad (not always). And then I'd have to wonder is every server generally like this? And I'm already losing my point here. But that mixed with your average depiction of a COD or Halo match voice chat. I feel like unconsciously as a whole the gaming community whatever you want to call it, bred this by establishing a really low bar for behavior standards. It's obviously not clear cut or simple or restricted to just gaming etc. But the fact that all of that just became the norm in many places has probably taught a whole generation of people some really screwed up lessons on how to behave in regards to other people online. The main way to avoid those things became forming your own separate secluded communities while the general pop/pub communities just got worse and worse.
Alone in the Universe was based on the Other M commercial theme apparently????
The only thing that comes close to this for me is ff9
Acceptance of mortality was not something I was really prepared to face at the time
There's a difference between partnering with fans to advertise a game and selling fanworks as an official product.
but Nintendo's not Valve.
We've Figured It Out
We've Cracked The Code
Did you mail it to yourself?
super mario galaxy 3 confirmed
Steam
Steam
I've got a brand to protect, here
what with impostors like Hullis and Blank around
I am 100% sure there are legitimate reasons why they couldn't just take a translation made by random internet people
Even with, like, signed legal documents from every person that worked on it there are too many potential people involved in an unofficial translation who might raise a legal stink
I begrudge Nintendo many things related to Mother but this is not one.
Edit or what simben said while I was talking to a customer
in 2007 I spent a summer at nintendo hq convincing mr iwata that the west really hates mother 3
I would love for Cody Rhodes to one day stop by the Giant Bomb offices and do his yearly playthough of Link To The Past. Perhaps in character as Stardust.
Look - Kanye may be the voice of our generation, but I'll decide what games I do and don't like myself, thankyouverymuch.
Steam
http://www.audioentropy.com/
secret anime thread?
On the other hand
No because it might not actually be the last giant bomb thread forever
But it will be if we do the anime in it
"secret"
AFAIK no one's cracked the encryption on nintendo downloads and suchlike
http://www.audioentropy.com/
ACCEPTABLE
No, seriously
If the 3DS had this kind of functionality officially supported I think the community would be happy with it
All four of those are rad and ongoing.
Something something man what was Jeff's problem with 100% Orange Juice? I don't even like dice games but it actually looked fun.
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Thaaaaat would also never happen.