Like Chilean miners emerging from the ground, so begins another [Podcast] thread

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Yeahs think serial is absolutely something you should listen to

    But I feel like you could start up an entire new podcast dedicated to investigating how fucked up it was

    I really appreciated Serial and would still freely recommend it to others, but I'd also tell them that The Intercept interview with Jay is a required followup read

    Could you link that?

    My parents are currently going through serial

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/29/exclusive-interview-jay-wilds-star-witness-adnan-syed-serial-case-pt-1/

  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    Yeahs think serial is absolutely something you should listen to

    But I feel like you could start up an entire new podcast dedicated to investigating how fucked up it was

    I really appreciated Serial and would still freely recommend it to others, but I'd also tell them that The Intercept interview with Jay is a required followup read

    Could you link that?

    My parents are currently going through serial

    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Basically im at a point in my life were I am avoiding cynical or media I view as overly negative on purpose

    So when the bombcast yells about how x videogame is terrible for reason y again it bums me out

    Im just noticing the cynicism and negativity more and it sucks because I really like the bombcast and I cant deal

    I'm at a point where I'm also pretty tired with cynicism, even if it's exaggerated for laughs. It makes up like 90% of internet culture to the point that legitimately enjoying something without picking it apart is the odd thing to do.

    I spent two weeks gushing and waxing nostalgic about Final Fantasy VII, and the people who joined me commented at the end how we almost didn't list any criticisms. I decided, hey, why bother? Everyone else has already made the same old complaints, let's do something wild and crazy and celebrate it!

    This is also why I'm enjoying the Best Friends on an almost daily basis. They spend more time getting giddy with over something like Parasite Eve while also being aware that a lot of its mitochondria talk is bullshit. The latter doesn't affect their enjoyment of the former.
    I want to hear stuff on videogames and there isnt really any good replacements

    I think patrick mentioned making a podcast so maybe I can listen to that????

    *cough cough*

    Criticism and critical thinking about a games flaws are extremely important though

    and again, not liking something and stating the reasons for that dislike is not cynicism, its being critical or negative about a thing

    That is true, if there's a balance.

    I rarely see a balance.

    I'm especially tired of seeing people be immediately cynical because a thing is A) old, B) has one or two apparent flaws that make it absolute shit instead of just flawed, C) from Japan.

    Okay

    I have nothing to add because that doesn't describe anything I've experienced

    A recent example posted in another thread: http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/

    Like I'm not saying these opinions are unwarranted or even incorrect (I haven't played this game), but a huge chunk of material coming from that community and many others boils down to "Hey I'm revisiting this old game a lot of people liked and I'm here to tell you it's a piece of shit and we were all stupid for ever liking it!".

    It's just a tired routine. No balance there.

    Ok fair enough

    This is like, hyper removed from what GB does though

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Unless a lot of posts have been deleted from this thread that's kind of overblowing it. The GB thread is just a post about "Cara Ellison is moving to New York -- to work at GB???" which is a conversation we've had. The conspiracy posts are pretty much all satire of #gamergate bullshit.

  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    I'm sure she understands jokes

  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    I'd really like for a GB East podcast to get started up soon. After Vinny's exit the comedy value of the Giant Bombcast is pretty much gone.

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Basically im at a point in my life were I am avoiding cynical or media I view as overly negative on purpose

    So when the bombcast yells about how x videogame is terrible for reason y again it bums me out

    Im just noticing the cynicism and negativity more and it sucks because I really like the bombcast and I cant deal

    I'm at a point where I'm also pretty tired with cynicism, even if it's exaggerated for laughs. It makes up like 90% of internet culture to the point that legitimately enjoying something without picking it apart is the odd thing to do.

    I spent two weeks gushing and waxing nostalgic about Final Fantasy VII, and the people who joined me commented at the end how we almost didn't list any criticisms. I decided, hey, why bother? Everyone else has already made the same old complaints, let's do something wild and crazy and celebrate it!

    This is also why I'm enjoying the Best Friends on an almost daily basis. They spend more time getting giddy with over something like Parasite Eve while also being aware that a lot of its mitochondria talk is bullshit. The latter doesn't affect their enjoyment of the former.
    I want to hear stuff on videogames and there isnt really any good replacements

    I think patrick mentioned making a podcast so maybe I can listen to that????

    *cough cough*

    Criticism and critical thinking about a games flaws are extremely important though

    and again, not liking something and stating the reasons for that dislike is not cynicism, its being critical or negative about a thing

    That is true, if there's a balance.

    I rarely see a balance.

    I'm especially tired of seeing people be immediately cynical because a thing is A) old, B) has one or two apparent flaws that make it absolute shit instead of just flawed, C) from Japan.

    Okay

    I have nothing to add because that doesn't describe anything I've experienced

    A recent example posted in another thread: http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/

    Like I'm not saying these opinions are unwarranted or even incorrect (I haven't played this game), but a huge chunk of material coming from that community and many others boils down to "Hey I'm revisiting this old game a lot of people liked and I'm here to tell you it's a piece of shit and we were all stupid for ever liking it!".

    It's just a tired routine. No balance there.

    Ok fair enough

    This is like, hyper removed from what GB does though

    Beyond the notion that cynicism=funny/popular, yes.

    Just a big rant pulled from a minor thing.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Basically im at a point in my life were I am avoiding cynical or media I view as overly negative on purpose

    So when the bombcast yells about how x videogame is terrible for reason y again it bums me out

    Im just noticing the cynicism and negativity more and it sucks because I really like the bombcast and I cant deal

    I'm at a point where I'm also pretty tired with cynicism, even if it's exaggerated for laughs. It makes up like 90% of internet culture to the point that legitimately enjoying something without picking it apart is the odd thing to do.

    I spent two weeks gushing and waxing nostalgic about Final Fantasy VII, and the people who joined me commented at the end how we almost didn't list any criticisms. I decided, hey, why bother? Everyone else has already made the same old complaints, let's do something wild and crazy and celebrate it!

    This is also why I'm enjoying the Best Friends on an almost daily basis. They spend more time getting giddy with over something like Parasite Eve while also being aware that a lot of its mitochondria talk is bullshit. The latter doesn't affect their enjoyment of the former.
    I want to hear stuff on videogames and there isnt really any good replacements

    I think patrick mentioned making a podcast so maybe I can listen to that????

    *cough cough*

    Criticism and critical thinking about a games flaws are extremely important though

    and again, not liking something and stating the reasons for that dislike is not cynicism, its being critical or negative about a thing

    That is true, if there's a balance.

    I rarely see a balance.

    I'm especially tired of seeing people be immediately cynical because a thing is A) old, B) has one or two apparent flaws that make it absolute shit instead of just flawed, C) from Japan.

    Okay

    I have nothing to add because that doesn't describe anything I've experienced

    A recent example posted in another thread: http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/

    Like I'm not saying these opinions are unwarranted or even incorrect (I haven't played this game), but a huge chunk of material coming from that community and many others boils down to "Hey I'm revisiting this old game a lot of people liked and I'm here to tell you it's a piece of shit and we were all stupid for ever liking it!".

    It's just a tired routine. No balance there.

    Ok fair enough

    This is like, hyper removed from what GB does though

    Beyond the notion that cynicism=funny/popular, yes.

    Just a big rant pulled from a minor thing.

    Man

    I know Jon Hamm is gonna be so mad at me for this

    But I really don't think you're using that word correctly

    GB occasionally go on rants about games they find to be bad

    That's not what cynicism is though? Like at all

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Also hey podcast thread after struggling with my sleep apnea machine for a few weeks I went to an ENT and I have a deviated septum

    Anybody ever had this surgery?

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    i honestly cannot really understand people's ~moral unease~ with serial, but i also regularly watch dateline or whatever crime of the week show i happen to flip on on a weekend

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    i honestly cannot really understand people's ~moral unease~ with serial, but i also regularly watch dateline or whatever crime of the week show i happen to flip on on a weekend

    I found it to be gross and invasive of people's personal lives. I find voyeurism in general to be really distasteful.

  • DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular
    Listening to the new Danswers, Jeff and me might actually be the same person.

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    For all of you who find Giant Bomb too cynical boy do I have the program for you.

    It's called DragonBoyz and it's a joyous celebration of the fact that dragon age 2 is probably the most perfect video game ever created.

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    i honestly cannot really understand people's ~moral unease~ with serial, but i also regularly watch dateline or whatever crime of the week show i happen to flip on on a weekend

    I found it to be gross and invasive of people's personal lives. I find voyeurism in general to be really distasteful.

    that is a very judgmental way of putting it, congrats on your moral fiber

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    i honestly cannot really understand people's ~moral unease~ with serial, but i also regularly watch dateline or whatever crime of the week show i happen to flip on on a weekend

    I found it to be gross and invasive of people's personal lives. I find voyeurism in general to be really distasteful.

    that is a very judgmental way of putting it, congrats on your moral fiber

    Oh noooo, how will I sustain my need for a smug sense of self superiority! You've seen right through my facade! My house of lies crumbles around me!

  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    I have deep seated moral unease with the concept of dragon age 2 as a good videogame

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    lot of people breaking Overlord Obama's 3 Midnight Laws in here

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Guys, what if Craig Ferguson took over The Daily Show in some bizarre game of late night musical chairs?

    OmnipotentBagel on
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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I have deep seated moral unease with the concept of dragon age 2 as a good videogame

    You have a disease and Dragonboyz is the prescription.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Dragonboyz not being a podcast about Dragon Ball Z is blowing my mind.

  • Medium DaveMedium Dave Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    i honestly cannot really understand people's ~moral unease~ with serial, but i also regularly watch dateline or whatever crime of the week show i happen to flip on on a weekend

    I found it to be gross and invasive of people's personal lives. I find voyeurism in general to be really distasteful.

    And this is for anyone who feels similar...

    Does true crime, based on a true story, biographies and/or biopics also bother you, in any form, be it movie, TV, book, etc.? And not just stuff where people die or are murdered.

    Not trying to be a dick, just curious. I've seen this sort of sentiment expressed about Serial and I've wondered if it only holds true for Serial, because of the hullabaloo around it.

    For example, does HBO's new documentary series, The Jinx
    From Andrew Jarecki and Marc Smerling (the Oscar® nominees behind Capturing the Friedmans ), comes The Jinx: The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst, a six-part examination of the reclusive millionaire at the heart of three killings spanning four decades. Robert Durst, the scion of a New York real estate empire, has long been a suspect in the notorious 1982 disappearance of his wife, Kathie. Further suspicion was raised with the unsolved killing of his confidante, Susan Berman, thought to be a key witness in the investigation into Kathie's disappearance in 2000, as well as the subsequent killing and dismemberment of a neighbor in Galveston, Texas. Durst has consistently maintained his innocence and remains a free man today

    strike you as gross? Or The Imposter documentary, from 2012
    centered on a young Frenchman who claims to a grieving Texas family that he is their 16-year-old son who has been missing for 3 years.

    Does Searching for Sugar Man, a documentary from 2012, a much more upbeat and positive documentary, also bother you?
    Two South Africans set out to discover what happened to their unlikely musical hero, the mysterious 1970s rock 'n' roller, Rodriguez.

  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    DA2 is the evil hell version of ME2

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Medium Dave: It depends entirely on how those biographies and/or biopics were conducted, especially in terms of investigation, interviews, etc. Personally.

    I don't think I'd watch any of those, myself, but I can't say I would find them to be gross and off-putting without knowing more about them.

  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    The fact that something called dragonboyz isn't about Staying all Z bothers me deeply.

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    What the fuck autocorrect?

    Whatever, Staying All Z would also be a good name for a DBZ podcast.

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  • JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Dragonboyz not being a podcast about Dragon Ball Z is blowing my mind.

    This is our logo:

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Ok I feel better now.

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  • masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    Depends on the execution, but for me the answer is usually yes.

    For someone that actually intends to get into the criminal justice system, my hatred for most true(and not a inconsiderable amount of fiction)crime stories is a deep and rich vein.

    I can't watch one episode of Dateline without hearing some stupid pun or some leading turn of phrase that makes me want to punch the narrator

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    it is dependent on the execution and in my estimation serial failed to execute in a manner that I found to be tasteful. I found Jay's reaction to the interview really troubling and the way in which the podcast described him fairly racist.

    Langly on
  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    John we need to do another episode, look at this market just waiting to be tapped.

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  • Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    i've neither heard the first episode nor played dragon age II, but feel compelled to immerse myself entirely in the dragonboyz lifestyle

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  • Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    as long as y'all help me out with the names of the characters and what instruments they play

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    as long as y'all help me out with the names of the characters and what instruments they play

    JohnHam plays Tito's Handmade Vodka

    Balefuego plays Grey Goose

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    They also made no effort to make his identity anonymous, which lead to Reddit sending stalkers out to his house and taking pictures and scaring his kids and wife. It spent months dredging up an extremely traumatic event that, from his testimony, had thousands of people talking about how much of a liar he was and a murderer, and affected his professional and personal life.

    Koenig didn't care about that, because she doesn't care about the people involved, she cares about the story/podcast being popular. And she showed that by barging into his house, uninvited, upsetting his family, and then continually dragging his name through the mud, 15 years after the events. To an audience she was aware was enormous, due to the episodic nature of the show.

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    They also made no effort to make his identity anonymous, which lead to Reddit sending stalkers out to his house and taking pictures and scaring his kids and wife. It spent months dredging up an extremely traumatic event that, from his testimony, had thousands of people talking about how much of a liar he was and a murderer, and affected his professional and personal life.

    Koenig didn't care about that, because she doesn't care about the people involved, she cares about the story/podcast being popular. And she showed that by barging into his house, uninvited, upsetting his family, and then continually dragging his name through the mud, 15 years after the events. To an audience she was aware was enormous, due to the episodic nature of the show.

    Holy fuck.

    I mean, I only listened to the first episode and was skeeved out by that. I had no idea all that went on to transpire. Fuck that. Fuck that so much.

  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    They also made no effort to make his identity anonymous, which lead to Reddit sending stalkers out to his house and taking pictures and scaring his kids and wife. It spent months dredging up an extremely traumatic event that, from his testimony, had thousands of people talking about how much of a liar he was and a murderer, and affected his professional and personal life.

    Koenig didn't care about that, because she doesn't care about the people involved, she cares about the story/podcast being popular. And she showed that by barging into his house, uninvited, upsetting his family, and then continually dragging his name through the mud, 15 years after the events. To an audience she was aware was enormous, due to the episodic nature of the show.

    I think this is an unfair portrayal of Koenig's intentions

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    They also made no effort to make his identity anonymous, which lead to Reddit sending stalkers out to his house and taking pictures and scaring his kids and wife. It spent months dredging up an extremely traumatic event that, from his testimony, had thousands of people talking about how much of a liar he was and a murderer, and affected his professional and personal life.

    Koenig didn't care about that, because she doesn't care about the people involved, she cares about the story/podcast being popular. And she showed that by barging into his house, uninvited, upsetting his family, and then continually dragging his name through the mud, 15 years after the events. To an audience she was aware was enormous, due to the episodic nature of the show.

    You're doing a whole lot of projection here dude

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