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Basements and Skeletons, a PnP Thread Without Alliteration

MeldingMelding Registered User regular
This is a basement.

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This is a Skeleton

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We explore one, to kill the other in this game.

similar topics include

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tunnels and trolls

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Dungeons and Dragons

but those have alliterations, so let's talk about

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Shadowrun

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GammaWorld

Which do not.

Or whatever else.

I hear that Star wars dog fighting game eats money, let's rap about that.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    @Fyndir thanks for sharing your thoughts on your roleplaying style in the last thread. While it's not how I go about it, your posts gave me a little more appreciation for how my friend RPs and let me realize that a lot of my frustration with how she played her character was based in the fact that it is not how I would play her character. But it's her character, not mine, and I'm hoping that letting go of that need to make sure everyone was RPing the way I like will allow me to be less frustrated in upcoming games.

  • Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    To help start the new thread, I drew an art of the Bullywug Shovel-Wizard that the fine members of Acquisitions Inc. rolled up for me at PAX South:

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    Desert Leviathan on
    Realizing lately that I don't really trust or respect basically any of the moderators here. So, good luck with life, friends! Hit me up on Twitter @DesertLeviathan
  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Apparently there were some layoffs at wotc on the dnd side today

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Apparently there were some layoffs at wotc on the dnd side today
    That's not great.

  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    not really shocking, the brand isn't doing better since 4th edition, and there was all kind of talk about how if 5th didn't start pulling in transformers money they'd hang the brand up for a while.

    So hopefully they figure out what people want and start doing it.

    It's good video games Hasbro, that's what people want out of DnD.

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    Why don't they try selling like, print on demand stuff and PDFs of every D&D edition and module ever for a while.

  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    Why don't they try selling like, print on demand stuff and PDFs of every D&D edition and module ever for a while.

    you can actually buy books of just about every edition currently. like i have the player's handbook and unearthed arcana from ADnD that were printed in the past couple years.

    I don't know why they're so afraid of PDFs, they seem to be the salvation of a lot of games. i guess because like the master version of the 4e books got out so early that they don't trust their supply line or something. but as someone who owns a physical copy of the main boks of 5e i would buy pdfs as well.

    PDFs are real useful.

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    Why don't they try selling like, print on demand stuff and PDFs of every D&D edition and module ever for a while.

    you can actually buy books of just about every edition currently. like i have the player's handbook and unearthed arcana from ADnD that were printed in the past couple years.

    I don't know why they're so afraid of PDFs, they seem to be the salvation of a lot of games. i guess because like the master version of the 4e books got out so early that they don't trust their supply line or something. but as someone who owns a physical copy of the main boks of 5e i would buy pdfs as well.

    PDFs are real useful.
    Yeah that is super cool that you can get most of their old stuff now.

    I just think they should make it a more central part of their business I guess rather than trying to make newer versions when they have such a wealth of material for the older ones and using the internet more potential than ever to reach new audiences with that material.

    I'd buy me some old D&D books, that's for sure. And I have some of the ones they do sell as PDFs but their store is hard to navigate and their PDFs often aren't formatted well.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    New dice get!

    I wasn't happy with my current Shadowrun dice, as they are red casino-esque dice from my last character who grew up on the Vegas Strip in the first Dwarf-only cabaret. Now I've bought a batch of ivory-coloured spot dice for my avuncular English aristocrat; not ostentatious, but with a well-worn feel suggesting a valuable D6 that's been well looked after.

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I still have an army surplus ammo canister I want to fill with D6s

  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Yeah, they really need to figure out what other brands have done to stay in business. Dungeons and Dragons is still a big name for some reason. They need to get it out there more. We're living in the modern version of the 90s, where the hell is the new DnD movie staring C and D list celebrities that need to eat? The last two were direct to DVD, no one saw those. you should really watch them though.

    and there's so many fantasy games out there right now, start offering the licence to people that aren't atari. you could start advertising screenshots of a unity based crpg made by a guy who worked on a game people liked and some indies inside of like 6 months saying the game will be out in 12 months and you'd have so much buzz right now.

    Also, Action figures! 8 inch Dritz Do'urden with a free digital copy of Ice-T reading that short story 20 bucks, make money hand over fist.

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Dungeons and Dragons: A Netflix Original Series

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I saw the first D&D movie in a theater

    RIP in peace Snails.

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Haven't those D&D boardgames been doing pretty well for them?

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    Melding wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    Why don't they try selling like, print on demand stuff and PDFs of every D&D edition and module ever for a while.

    you can actually buy books of just about every edition currently. like i have the player's handbook and unearthed arcana from ADnD that were printed in the past couple years.

    I don't know why they're so afraid of PDFs, they seem to be the salvation of a lot of games. i guess because like the master version of the 4e books got out so early that they don't trust their supply line or something. but as someone who owns a physical copy of the main boks of 5e i would buy pdfs as well.

    PDFs are real useful.
    Yeah that is super cool that you can get most of their old stuff now.

    I just think they should make it a more central part of their business I guess rather than trying to make newer versions when they have such a wealth of material for the older ones and using the internet more potential than ever to reach new audiences with that material.

    I'd buy me some old D&D books, that's for sure. And I have some of the ones they do sell as PDFs but their store is hard to navigate and their PDFs often aren't formatted well.

    You can buy through Drive-Thru RPG which is easier to navigate.

  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    The lack of a 4e video game wasn't on Wizards, it was because Atari sat on the exclusive rights to the license to make D&D video games and did nothing with it other than the Neverwinter MMO.

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    gtrmp wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    The lack of a 4e video game wasn't on Wizards, it was because Atari sat on the exclusive rights to the license to make D&D video games and did nothing with it other than the Neverwinter MMO.

    Yeah I wish someone good could have gotten the license.

    What has atari even done recently?

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    The cruellest irony for an edition that was plagued with "They've made D&D into a video game!" arguments.

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    from what i understand, is that they're actually doing reasonably well, but since PnP games aren't huge money they aren't performing where expected as a brand. Like, the market isn't killing them Hasbro corporate culture is. DnD is expected to do like Magic the Gathering money and haha, that ain't going to happen.

    Also you should really watch the other DnD movies. the second one is actually pretty alright in the context it was a syfy original, but the effects are passable the acting isn't the worst and it actually follows some on the original movie.

    The third one is all kinds of bad, but it's hilarious and the evil druid in it is aces.

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    that is a man who loves his job. also over the size limit i guess.

    Melding on
  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    gtrmp wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    The lack of a 4e video game wasn't on Wizards, it was because Atari sat on the exclusive rights to the license to make D&D video games and did nothing with it other than the Neverwinter MMO.

    Yeah I wish someone good could have gotten the license.

    What has atari even done recently?

    gone out of business, again, i beleive.

  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    Haven't those D&D boardgames been doing pretty well for them?

    Apparently so, there's going to be another one this year to tie in with 5e's Elemental Evil plotline.

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Atari: Going out of business has been OUR business since 1982!

  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    Yeah when Hasbro bought wotc they basically said "show us which brands can turn into at least $50m a year, we keep those"

    And the D&D side basically bullshitted their way up to a projection of that magnitude but as it became clear that it wasn't going to happen all support has been removed.

    Steam: SanderJK Origin: SanderJK
  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    SanderJK wrote: »
    Yeah when Hasbro bought wotc they basically said "show us which brands can turn into at least $50m a year, we keep those"

    And the D&D side basically bullshitted their way up to a projection of that magnitude but as it became clear that it wasn't going to happen all support has been removed.

    IIRC, the money from D&D video games doesn't count towards D&D's target revenues, either.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    gtrmp wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    they still never made a good video game with 4E rules... :(

    The lack of a 4e video game wasn't on Wizards, it was because Atari sat on the exclusive rights to the license to make D&D video games and did nothing with it other than the Neverwinter MMO.

    They did a couple other things. There was a Live Arcade game of some sort that was really a tech demo for that MMO in ways. Nothing worth bothering with.
    gtrmp wrote: »
    SanderJK wrote: »
    Yeah when Hasbro bought wotc they basically said "show us which brands can turn into at least $50m a year, we keep those"

    And the D&D side basically bullshitted their way up to a projection of that magnitude but as it became clear that it wasn't going to happen all support has been removed.

    IIRC, the money from D&D video games doesn't count towards D&D's target revenues, either.

    Yup.

    Essentially D&D the brand name is worth owning. Actually making D&D in pretty much any form is not worth doing for Hasbro. So, too small a market for them to bother with but too powerful a brand for them to sell for a reasonable amount of money. Business!

    Whatever, I was a bit bitter but at this point them bowing out of the actual game market leaves more room for the Heinsoo and Tweets to make a decent living on their indie stuff and hopefully Mearls can stop, just stop.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    i'm pretty sure Daggerdale had nothing to do with neverwinter, what with the entirely different developers, and so on.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Well I was suggesting the other way around but tech demo was too strong a term.

    The Neverwinter MMO felt like it cribbed a bunch of ideas about how to turn 4th in an actiony RPG from what I saw of Daggerfall. At least that was my impression on booting up the MMO for the first time.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    nah they were cribbing on Vindictus for neverwinter.

    No idea where they got ideas for Daggerdale, other than a bad place.

    Same devs were set to make a Gamma World game, and then they stopped developing console games to go to mobile and then died.

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    also i now have the netrunner starter thing

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Netrunner is pretty radical

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    So I guess the XCOM board game is out (you can get the mandatory app on your computer or your phone or your tablet or whatever right now!) and it looks pretty goddamned cool. I'm not going to pick it up until we get through our Imperial Assault campaign, I don't think, but I'm really excited to try it out.

  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    so I been replaying Rising over the past couple days and it made me change a bunch of the encounters in my new D&D campaign so now there's a 20 foot goblin-flesh golem that they have to fight while I scream RULES OF NA-TUUUURREEE

    yeah I completely changed the tone of the whole thing, it's all tons of mooks and giant bosses and acrobatics checks and the soundtrack is alternating between buttrock and chiptunes

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    Pathfinder's cool to talk about here, right? Cause I'm really been digging the Carrion Crown campaign the group I'm in has been going through. We're nearing the end of the third chapter I think...
    ...which has been about werewolves. The villains of the campaign, the Whispering Way, have once again kicked over a hornet's nest in the area, this time getting the big cheese among the WW-packs killed and starting a big fight over who gets to take over, having allies with one or two of the packs. We're now in a haunted town trying to fight our way to stop whatever they were planning to do with the heart of said big cheese killed. It was around here that the DM decided to be nice and actually toss my Gunslinger a new toy in the form of a Firedrake Pistol which is pretty cool seeing they've been dealing with me using a class that wasn't released until after the last chapter of the Campaign came out.

    On more general RPG stuff, The Spoony One came out with another good Counter Monkey episode recently in which he makes a solid argument for playing a Lawful Good character as well as explaining why he doesn't like Chaotic Neutral characters.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unNSx7ilS4k

  • gavindelgavindel The reason all your software is brokenRegistered User regular
    My 13th age game has reached its second phase. The Kobold army has been defeated, the Diabolist plot to take over the Realm Defenses (*pushes the Scarlet Empress into a closet*) foiled.

    The Realm Defenses were blood attuned to the Archmage and the Emperor. The Big Bad was a sorceress daughter of the Diabolist and the Archmage, and one player is the daughter of the Emperor and the Elf Queen. So basically, in my campaign, every male Icon is a massive horndog with more bastards than a British court.

    Of course, when the Big Bad died midway through corrupting the Realm Defenses, the player stepped in...and the entire North has been "corrupted" with the Influence of the Elf Queen. Sylvan glades, romping deer. Just sickening.

    So now we have a forming Icon war when the Elf Queen claims her due...the entire north of the empire. If the Legionnaires can't even protect it from kobolds, clearly the Emperor doesn't deserve it.

    And in the background is that Banished demon, undying, patient. Waiting. She was a queen once, and she'll be a queen again. Cause ain't nobody seed chaos and opportunity like a gang of player characters. They only need a few nudges in the right direction...

    Book - Royal road - Free! Seraphim === TTRPG - Wuxia - Free! Seln Alora
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I've been playing Pendragon of late

    Pendragon really is great

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    My Knight is Sir Edward of Cholderton, known for his prudence (that's my highest knightly virtue)

    Mostly my skills are based around being literate and well read, being good at stewardship and the ways of ruling, and being a good military leader

    Which is good, because the rest of my group are not those things at all

    they are in fact mental

  • gavindelgavindel The reason all your software is brokenRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    My Knight is Sir Edward of Cholderton, known for his prudence (that's my highest knightly virtue)

    Mostly my skills are based around being literate and well read, being good at stewardship and the ways of ruling, and being a good military leader

    Which is good, because the rest of my group are not those things at all

    they are in fact mental

    In my country, we call such a man a title of high honor and great responsibility.

    We call him the Baah'beh'seetar.

    Book - Royal road - Free! Seraphim === TTRPG - Wuxia - Free! Seln Alora
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Yeah basically

    Although they all rely on me these days

    One player has rolled up a woman who is disguised as a knight

    her family trait was +10 Appearance (!) and she is Size 18 (!!!) and she has basically decided that in her social persona as a courtly lady she's going to marry the shit out of my guy because he's the only Knight she knows who is not going to clearly die from a surplus of mindless zeal.

    "Charging blindly and gloriously on" is their modus operandi, which is why I almost instantly was put in the position of "you're in charge because you can actually read"

  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User, Moderator mod
    I would really love to play Pendragon sometime

  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    After finishing up our 40k campaign we're now running an "Urban fantasy" campaign in Amsterdam.

    It's quickly becoming very obvious that this is an Urban horror campaign. Except we're the horrors.
    Our current gang is a high-class Necromancer, a 1/14th-part deep one DJ who is an Oracle of the Deep, a Mirrordemon and a shapeshifting girl with a split personality who can reshape her fingers into knives.
    Our little band of misfits is working for a fallen angel named Herr Morgenstein.
    It can only go downhill from here.

    "The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
    -Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
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