[Monster Hunter] Thread invaded by a Deviljho. Go to new thread or get eaten.

Seidkona

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7v_fQKT7MyI

What is Monster Hunter?

Welcome to the game where in the goal is to kill off these guys with some form of pointy or shooty implement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ZAQ9_QK5s&noredirect=1

Monster Hunter is a series about hunting little things, making weapons and armour from the bits of the little things then eventually using those weapons and armour to hunt bigger things. Repeat until the next game in the series comes out.



Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate is the next version of the game. It will be released to western audiences on February 13th, 2015. There are all new areas (and a return of the great dessert), 2 new weapons, un-level terrain to do jump attacks off of, a randomized offline area that goes up to G-rank to free hunt in and much much more that I'll add later.

Oh and there's mounting. Please take a moment to watch this for mounting etiquette:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=458nEpjtY5k

Cross region play is in from the beginning but voice chat is not so we're going 3rd party for that.

Voice Comms

Because we have to go third party a few of us have decided on using the PA Teamspeak 3 server.

TeamSpeak 3: finalack.com ( or 23.239.18.188), Port: default - leave blank, Password: PA's Usual Password for these things

Screenshots

Here's a handy rundown of differences between the games compiled by Iceburner (updated 11/10/14):

Monster Hunter:
Features: Hunting monsters, Sword and Shield, Greatsword, Lance, Hammer, Light Bowgun, Heavy Bowgun, painfully limited inventory and storage space.
Maps: Forest Highland, (Old) Desert, (Old) Jungle, (Old) Swamp , (Old) Volcano, Fortress, Castle Schrade, Battleground.
Small Monsters: Apceros, Kelbi, Mosswine, Vespoids, Hornetaurs, Felyne, Melynx, Bullfango, Small raptors, Cephalos.
Large Monsters: Raptor Trio, Kut-Ku, Great Cephalos, Gypceros, Los and Ian, Khezu, Basarios and Gravios, Plesioth, Monoblos and Diablos, Kirin, Lao, and Fatalis.
Village: Kokoto, a simple town on the Forest Highland.
Online Town: Minegarde, a walled desert city high on a flat mountain bluff. Cranes and cannons stick out its sides.

Monster Hunter G/Monster Hunter Freedom:
(MHF was a 1:1 port of MHG, save that all online content was made available in the Kokoto guild hall.)
New Maps: Great Arena.
New Features: Farm, kitchen, recolors, Dual Swords, the arena, actual numbers for element and status, armor skills.
New Large Monsters: Yian Garuga.
Stuff Lost: Minegarde.

Monster Hunter 2 (dos):
New Features: Dynamic day/night, seasons, dynamic bounties, traps & tranqs not being supply items, Gunlance, Hunting Horn, Longsword, Bow, 3-item combination, armor upgrade trees, training quests, versus arena mode (1v1 or 2v2, you have to take out the other team's captured monster, can't harm the players), the songstress, and quest sub goals.
New Maps: Jungle, Desert, Swamp, Snowy Mountain, Volcano, Great Arena, Dondruma (under siege), Tower (dos version), Tower (short version).
New Small Monsters: Anteka, Popo, Giaprey, Shakalaka, Remobra, Conga, Blango, Hermitaur, Ceanatuar.
New Large Monsters: Great Fango, Quaking Conga, Roaring Blango, Daimyo Hermitaur, Shogun Ceanataur, Silver Los and Gold Ian, Kushala, Luna, Teo, Chameleos, Gaoren, Rajang, Yama Tsukami , White Fatalis.
Village: Jumbo Village, a tiny topical island paradise near the Jungle.
Online town: Dondruma City, home to the Wyverians, and tracking center for Elder Dragons.
Stuff Lost: (Old) Desert, (Old) Jungle, (Old) Swamp , (Old) Volcano, some joke weapons, large monsters no longer had a "suspicious" state, just calm/attacking.

Monster Hunter Freedom 2
New Features: Harvest Tours, Felyne Companions, armor stones.
New Maps: Small Arena, Tower (portable version). Maps were revised to make some 1-way exits 2-way, and to not have Volcano be nearly unnavigable at night.
New Large Monsters: Giadrome, Tigrex, and Akantor.
Stuff Lost: Kokoto Village, Jumbo VIllage, Dondruma Town, bounties, seasons, Tower (dos version), Yama Tsukami, Day/night became static, 3-item combining, armor upgrade trees, training quests that aren't in the arena, vs mode, the songstress, the original Snowy Mountain battle theme, the awesome control scheme.
Village: Pokke, a town on the Snowy Mountain.

Monster Hunter Freedom Unite:
New Features: Items stack to 99 in your item box, adequate storage space. The battle music for the MH2 maps was replaced with music from Monster Hunter Frontier Online.
New Maps: Moat Arena, Great Forest, Tower Top, Tower (Yama Tsukami ver), Snowy Mountain Peak.
New Large Monsters: Vespoid Queen, Narga, Hypnoc, and Ukanlos (borrowed from MHFrontier Online).
Stuff Lost: The MH2 battle themes for Jungle, Desert, Swamp, and Volcano.
Restored: Old Jungle, Old Swamp, Old Desert, Old Volcano, Yama Tsukami (though how you fight it is completely different.) Joke weapons from MH1 came back, so all but the sponsored tie-in sword from MH1 is back.

Monster Hunter 3 (tri):
New Features: Larger inventory, Free Hunting, Swimming, Dark Rooms and torches, Monster Stamina, Switchaxe, bowgun assembly, Medium Bowguns, dynamic small monster and gather spot spawning, accurate hitboxes, adequate inventory space. Customizable goblin henchman.
New Maps: Deserted Island, Sandy Plains, Flooded Forest, Tunda, Volcano (3rd), Underwater Ruins, Great Desert, Sacred Land, Land Arena, Water Arena.
Restored: Dynamic day/Night, the "suspicious" state between calm and attacking for large monsters, the awesome control scheme.
Stuff Lost: All old maps, all old gear, Gunlance, Hunting Horn, Dual Swords, Bows, all old monsters except Aptonoth, Popo, Felyne & Melynx, Kelbi, Los + Ian, and Diablos. Felyne Companions, and quest sub goals.
New Small Monsters: Giggi, Epioth, Altaroth, Bahabra, Delex, Rhenoplos, Jaggi, Jaggia, Baggi, Ludroth, Uroktor
New Large Monsters: Great Jaggi, Qurupeco, Royal Ludroth, Barroth, Gobul, Great Baggi, Gigginox, Barioth, Uragaan, Lagiacrus, Agnaktor, Deviljho, Ceadeus, Jhen Mohran, Alatreon.
Village: Moga, floating just off the Deserted Island.
Online town: Loc Lac, jewel of the desert and home to airships. As an easter egg, you could totally see MH1's Minegarde in the distance from Loc Lac.

Monster Hunter Portable 3rd:
New Features: Hot springs, barrel cat, weapon tempering stones, the Auto-guard gunlance exploit.
Restored: Dual Swords, Bows, Gunlance, Hunting Horn, Anteka, Bullfango, Great Fango, Narga, Tigrex, Akantor, Ukanlos, and recolor monsters. Felyne Companions.
Stuff Lost: Free Hunting, Swimming, Lagiacrus, Gobul, Ceadeus, Medium Bowguns, Moga Village, Loc Lac, Underwater Ruin, dynamic day/night and spawn spots became static again, the awesome control scheme.
???: They removed the weapon class multiplier from the damage formula, which made it so that all weapon types had similar numbers for raw power.
New Maps: Misty Peaks, Lava Canyon, Polar Zone, Sacred Mountain, Small Arena (3rd gen ver)
New Small Monsters: Gargwa, Slagtoth, Wroggi.
New Large Monsters: Arzuros, Duramboros, Great Wroggi, Lagombi, Nibelsnarf, Volvidon, Zinogre, Amatsumagatsuchi.
Village: Yukumo, the village of hot springs in the Misty Peaks.

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate:
New Features: A rival for your customizable goblin henchman, auto-center-on-the-big-monster camera "Target camera", touchscreen awesome.
New Maps: Tainted Sea
New Large Monsters: Brachydios, Dire Miralis, plus every wyvern, dragon, and leviathan that didn't have a recolor got one (except Nibelsnarf and Gobul).
Restored: Swimming, dynamic gather spots, Lagiacrus, Gobul, Ceadeus, Plesioth, Blue Los and Pink Ian, Moga Village, Underwater Ruin, Tower Top map.
???: They put the weapon class multiplier back, so weapon power looks like it did in every MH game before MHP3rd again.
Stuff Lost: Amatsukagutsuchi, the Auto-guard gunlance exploit, the awesome control scheme.
Village: Moga
Online town: Tanzia Port.

Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate:
New Features: Fluid Jumping/Climbing, Jump Attacks, Shadow of the Colossus, Dragon Virus, your home is a caravan, Charge Blade, Insect Glaive, randomized Free Hunting, more stuff I dunno about yet.
New Maps: Ancestral Steppe, Primeval forest, Sunken Hollow, Frozen Seaway, Underground Volcano, Heavenly Mountain, Tower Top (MH4 ver), Unknown Great Forest, Great Desert (MH4 ver), Forbidden Grounds, Lava Island, Thousand Blade Mountain, Dunes, Dondruma (MH4 under siege ver).
New Small Monsters: Konchu, Zamite.
New Large Monsters: Gore Magala, Shagaru Magara, Kecha Wacha, Najarala, Nerscylla, Seltas, Seltas Queen, Seregios, Testucabra, Zamtrios, Dara Amadyura, Daren Mohran, Gogumaijosu, plus some old monsters get new recolors.
Restored: Every small and large monster from MH1 and MH2 except G. Fango, Blango (both sizes), white raptors, Vespoids (big and small), Plesioth, Lavasioth, Ceanataurs (big and small), Narga, Luna, Lao, Yama, and Gaoren, the songstress, and quest sub goals.
Stuff Lost: All previous maps, all previous gear, swimming, all new monsters from MH3's generation except Altaroth, Bnahabra, Gargwa, Rhenoplos, Slagtoth, Delex, Jaggi, Jaggia, Great Jaggi, Lagombi, Zinogre. Brachydios.
Village: Your home and base camp is a moving caravan! There's actually other places to visit.
Other Villages: Barubaré Village, bordering the Great Desert. Naguri Village, the underground home of the mole people. Chico Village, the Felyne town off the coast of the Primeval Forest. Shinato Village, the wyverian village high above the cloudline upon the Heavenly Mountain
Online town: Dondruma IS BACK!

Game Info and Useful Stuff

Kiranico MH4U database
Athena's Armor Set Search MH4G/MH4U
Desire Sensor - Calculate how long it'll take you to find an item drop.
Poogie Recommends - Find the best ways to go about farming an item you need.
GaijinHunter’s MH4U weapon tutorial playlist. Seriously. Watch these for your weapon
Vyolynce's Hunter's Notes - Part 1
Vyolynce's Hunter's Notes - Part 2
Vyolynce's Hunter's Notes - Part 3
Vyolynce's Hunter's Notes - Part 4
Vyolynce's Hunter's Notes - Part 5
Vyolynce's Multiplayer Do's and Don'ts
Dinodankz's Handy Gunner Shot weakness Chart

MH4U Hunting Spreadsheet

PA MH4U friend code data form

See the form entries.

Speaking of playing together. The generic PA password for rooms is

9264

Enigmedic

Old thread was given a nulberry.

Seidkona

Enigmedic wrote: »

Old thread was given a nulberry.

We gave it that nulberry at that farm we took it to.

The one we take all the old threads to so they can live their days roaming in the wide open pastures.

Polaritie

I swear. It's just impossible to find people who know simple things like adamant seeds on Akantor.

milski

To be fair I have no idea why Adamant seeds are good against Akantor, I just beat the shit out of it because the only threat it has is that its footsteps hit about as hard as other monster's charges. Even his death beam is super predictable and just lets you beat the shit out of him.

Dracil

I didn't know until I was reading about it on a wiki. Basically it nullifies a half defense debuff.

I suspect it's the reason behind a lot of the carts for the Zelda weapon DLC. Suddenly taking close to 2x more damage than you were expecting can do that.

Suneater

what does adamant seed do against Akantor?

abotkin

I just added myself to the form, and I'll go through in a bit to add people, but my FC is 0963-0539-4405 if anyone wants to add me. Just make sure to @ me so I can add you back. I'm up to HR4 now, almost exclusively from solo play, but playing with my buddy a few days ago was quite a bit of fun (although to be fair, I was running him through some HR1 stuff that was a bit of a breeze with a high rank weapon and armor).

On a separate note, fuck pink rathian. I did abysmally my first try with my hammer, I'll have to go back in and try out the IG to see if it goes any better. Plus it was my first try against the pink variant. But I want to keep unlocking stuff in caravan, so it needs to go down somehow.

Dracil

Suneater wrote: »

what does adamant seed do against Akantor?

Dracil wrote: »

Basically it nullifies a half defense debuff.

Maddoc

Kay wrote: »

Dear Yian Garuga. Stick around long enough for me to kill you, and get your Guild Quest.

Love, me.

I still don't get QUITE how guild quests work. I don't expedition much.

I have a G Rank Yian Garuga guild quest that I just got today

Heading to sleep in a minute, but bug me about it tomorrow or something if you want it

KiTA

Anyone feel up to slumming it and helping me take out a Pink Rathian?

Arch

Polaritie wrote: »

I swear. It's just impossible to find people who know simple things like adamant seeds on Akantor.

To be fair, I don't know any of that shit. Like I have no idea what half the consumables do, when I should best use them, which combine into which and etc

I mean I'm learning, but slowly

Did my first bit of multiparty last night, was pretty fun! Finished my velociprey set and made the velociprey horn as well.

Now to learn how to horn...

Hahnsoo1

Woo, new thread smell.

Polaritie

Oh god. Uh, having -20 fire res on my first Teostra attempt? Oh god the PAIN MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP.

Vyolynce

Polaritie wrote: »

I swear. It's just impossible to find people who know simple things like adamant seeds on Akantor.

To be fair everyone should be carrying Steam Bombs anyway. Love those things.


EDIT: Wow, the desire sensor has reached an entirely new level now. I need a Teostra Gem, which I figured would be difficult to find. Turns out it's impossible to find if the game never gives me my Advanced quest back.

Matthew

Anyone feel like helping me take down the HR3 Dahren Mohran urgent?

Kay

Maddoc wrote: »

Kay wrote: »

Dear Yian Garuga. Stick around long enough for me to kill you, and get your Guild Quest.

Love, me.

I still don't get QUITE how guild quests work. I don't expedition much.

I have a G Rank Yian Garuga guild quest that I just got today

Heading to sleep in a minute, but bug me about it tomorrow or something if you want it

G-Rank is like, waaaaay beyond me. ;_;

milski

I can't get on, but Dah'ren's super easy to solo. It's really just a mechanics fight where you have to know when to fire the dragonator and maybe pause him with the wire-shot or the gong once or twice.

fRAWRst

Shoot all the balistaes you can get at front horn to break it. once shots are done, use cannon balls and jump on back to mine and break fin (can break twice to go on top of head)

use binder or gong whenever he is going to ram boat

use nator at apex of second dive when he does he front attack. Do it early. You can do enough dps in all 3 ranks of fight that will skip the nator front charge

during ground fight, constantly attack front legs to trip. Do not attack too early on feet, especially if you out dps'd the nator as it an kill jhen out of bounds and then no carves

once dead, run to head and crouch carve 4 times, then work down body until you hit second carve spot for another 4

Matthew

OK, got the thing. Me and one other guy who didn't speak English. I like the game solo, but it is much more fun when playing with multiple people.

Peas

GAH why won't your arms break Brachydios *foam comes out of mouth*
BREAK BREAK

Vyolynce

fRAWRst wrote: »

Do not attack too early on feet, especially if you out dps'd the nator as it an kill jhen out of bounds and then no carves

This almost happened to a PUG and I one time. I noticed it was so far back I couldn't even hit the thing's legs, so I fell back to the middle of the map and signaled (LET US CHAT, CAPCOM). Fortunately he got the message and we spent like five minutes just gesturing at him waiting for him to crawl his lardass back in bounds.

Brody

Killed Tigrex on my first try. And Zinogre, and Zinogre+Rathalos.

jothki

Vyolynce wrote: »

fRAWRst wrote: »

Do not attack too early on feet, especially if you out dps'd the nator as it an kill jhen out of bounds and then no carves

This almost happened to a PUG and I one time. I noticed it was so far back I couldn't even hit the thing's legs, so I fell back to the middle of the map and signaled (LET US CHAT, CAPCOM). Fortunately he got the message and we spent like five minutes just gesturing at him waiting for him to crawl his lardass back in bounds.

I suggest paintballing the thing. It makes it much more obvious how much of it is within the boundaries.

KiTA

Got my upgraded Gore duals. I'm not sure the're worth picking over the Dios, but I have to get Rathalos Carapaces to upgrade the Dios, and those apparently require a shitload of subquests to unlock. Or Caravan 8... and a bunch of subquests. Ow.

Is Rathalos available as a guild quest mob? That would make life a lot easier.

My current armor is Tetsucabra S, upgraded it gives me Defense M, Sharpener +1, and Health +50. 300 Defense, too.

TNTrooper

Did we carve a gem from the last thread?

Arch

Ugh I'm done trying to solo guild quests to farm nerscylla

I just want a new IG but it's hard to solo with my current glaive

Going to bed, will try later

At least I'm Hr 2 now

Kay

@Arch there's a double Nerscylla quest in the caravan, pretty early. Progress the story a bit.

KiTA

Well, I have a little bit over 300 Defense with my Tetsu S set. And a full HP bar even if I die. Not bad, all things conisdered.

Ravelle

That Gravios fight, what a weird freakin' fight.

TimFiji

Horn of Wangdor, anyome wanna hunt this AM?

chocobolicious

So the HR7 Mohran fight is pretty serious business solo. Even with artillery god and landing every gong and binder, running cannon ammo dry and landing about 50 ballista shots he still got the ship down to 30% showdown and proceeded to wreck the ship because the gong and binder don't recharge fast enough.

Sad days.

Hahnsoo1

So, now that I have a nice Hearing +5/Wide Range +11/1 slot charm, I've come up with a new set for Hunting Horn/Support, mostly as a Wide-Range healer. I typically run without evade skills, and I like having HG Earplugs and Capture Guru on my sets. There are actually multiple sets that have this set of skills:
Speed Eating+2
Horn Maestro
HG Earplugs
Wide-Range+2
Capture Guru
3 Open Slots

The Seregios Hunting Horn has 2 slots, which gives me 5 slots for Mycology (or other utility skill like Speed Sharpener). It lacks any attack skills, but I plan on only using it for High Rank or Low Rank hunts as pure support.

One combination is:
Excello Helm Z or Tigrex Cap Z or Gobul Helm X
Tigrex Mail Z
Tigrex Vambraces Z
Torso Inc Waist
Qurupeco Greaves X
Hearing +5/Wide Range +11/1 slot charm

I like the idea of a Horn user with HG Earplugs... somehow, you don't really hear your own music, but on the plus side, no monster is going to interrupt your performance with a roar.

Dac

"immune to heckling"

Vyolynce

Hahnsoo1 wrote: »

I like the idea of a Horn user with HG Earplugs... somehow, you don't really hear your own music

That's not an actual thing, right? HG Earplugs doesn't make you immune to HH songs does it?

In a similar vein, if you have the Sleep armor skill can you still rest in the camp bed? I know the Feyline Insomniac food skill prevents that.

Hahnsoo1

Vyolynce wrote: »

Hahnsoo1 wrote: »

I like the idea of a Horn user with HG Earplugs... somehow, you don't really hear your own music

That's not an actual thing, right? HG Earplugs doesn't make you immune to HH songs does it?

In a similar vein, if you have the Sleep armor skill can you still rest in the camp bed? I know the Feyline Insomniac food skill prevents that.

No, you still get the benefit of your songs. You hear the music INSIDE YOUR HEAD! It just prevents roars.

TimFiji

Does honing your weapon with Life add health per hit? If so how much?

Polaritie

It's a chance per hit, with a cooldown of 5 sec. The amount varies with the attack strength.

Dalamadur time. Any advice? I'm probably going to hold off to upgrade my lightning CB first (two more Rajang fangs), but...

Also, the Teostra bow is awesome.

Peas

Stygian Zinogre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO3YmT2d-8k&hl=en-GB&gl=SG

Hahnsoo1

Polaritie wrote: »

It's a chance per hit, with a cooldown of 5 sec. The amount varies with the attack strength.

Dalamadur time. Any advice? I'm probably going to hold off to upgrade my lightning CB first (two more Rajang fangs), but...

Also, the Teostra bow is awesome.

Fire Resistance, don't get one-shot-killed by the sweep beam (he can do it twice, so watch out for that). That's 90% of the deaths to him, right there.

The Life proc is nearly worthless for G-rank hunts. If I get hit, it is shaving 50 to 75% of my health (even with 700+ armor), and I'm NOT going to be diving back into combat to try to get it to proc. I'm going to stop and heal to full so I don't cart.

On the other hand, it makes you nearly immortal in High Rank and Low Rank quests. I have a trash Rank 9 Longsword that I use with the Life proc, and I never have to use a potion.

Dracil

A GS L3 charge with Life Hone will heal over half your health bar. Gaijin Hunter likes it on Hunting Horn because the idea is you never really want to sheathe that and I guess it heals small hits like monster turning around on you which is also good if you have the skill that increases stats at max health.