Don't judge me but...can you microwave canned meat?

DrezDrez Registered User regular
Such as Keystone meats:

http://www.campingsurvival.com/kecabe28ozca.html?gclid=CPrX59vo0MUCFQaLaQodL0cAkw

I have a can of this. And I'm lazy. I was thinking of making some rice and meat concoction tonight.

I'm assuming the meat is already cooked - it just needs to be heated. So a microwave should be OK, right?

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Yes, it says right on that page you linked that the meat is fully cooked. You just need to make it hot again.

  • JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    edited May 2015
    As long as you take it out of the can you should be good.

    Edit: It might depend on your microwave though. Also you might need to cook it for pretty long.

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Er, yes, do take it out of the metal can and put it in something microwave safe.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Julius wrote: »
    Edit: It might depend on your microwave though. Also you might need to cook it for pretty long.

    Probably need to be covered so it doesn't dry out horrifically and stirred to help heat through faster. If you have a bit of beef stock to help keep it from drying out too badly, that would be good for it.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Julius wrote: »
    Edit: It might depend on your microwave though. Also you might need to cook it for pretty long.

    Probably need to be covered so it doesn't dry out horrifically and stirred to help heat through faster. If you have a bit of beef stock to help keep it from drying out too badly, that would be good for it.

    Water works too. Canned meats tend to be pretty gravy heavy anyways.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Microwave it in a safe container with plastic clingwrap over the top (leave it open just a tiny amount so steam can escape, put a bit of water or other liquid in, then microwave. I use this to revive rice and Chinese takeout.

  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    You shouldn't be reviving rice! Rice is the worst thing to revive (it typically has living bacteria that can become mild to moderately harmful after resting for longer than 8 hours, even with heating and refrigeration). The odds are low, but enough higher than other things to make it worth just making new rice.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Julius wrote: »
    Edit: It might depend on your microwave though. Also you might need to cook it for pretty long.

    Probably need to be covered so it doesn't dry out horrifically and stirred to help heat through faster. If you have a bit of beef stock to help keep it from drying out too badly, that would be good for it.

    I find the big thing with microwaves producing edible food is to adjust the power setting. Remember modern microwaves are pretty fucking powerful so just turning it on full blast is like sticking the marshmallow in the heart of the fire. It'll be hot pretty damn quick but it will also be inedible.

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  • NijaNija Registered User regular
    You don't stick the marshmellow in the heart of the fire?!

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Nija wrote: »
    You don't stick the marshmellow in the heart of the fire?!

    Monster.

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    Crank that bad boy down a bit.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    You shouldn't be reviving rice! Rice is the worst thing to revive (it typically has living bacteria that can become mild to moderately harmful after resting for longer than 8 hours, even with heating and refrigeration). The odds are low, but enough higher than other things to make it worth just making new rice.

    Dude's eating potted/canned meat and you want him to make fresh rice?

    What?


    Microwave is the best for reheating already cooked food. Just do lots of short bursts (e.g. 15-20 seconds, check/stir, 15-20 seconds, repeat, the meat you just heat through, the rice you'll have to check as it can be hot on outside but still stiff on the inside). Adding moisture is a good idea especially if it's been hanging out in the fridge.

  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Djeet, was replying to the post above mine.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    I just knew somebody would be defending the marshmallow holocaust.
    Djeet wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    You shouldn't be reviving rice! Rice is the worst thing to revive (it typically has living bacteria that can become mild to moderately harmful after resting for longer than 8 hours, even with heating and refrigeration). The odds are low, but enough higher than other things to make it worth just making new rice.

    Dude's eating potted/canned meat and you want him to make fresh rice?

    What?


    Microwave is the best for reheating already cooked food. Just do lots of short bursts (e.g. 15-20 seconds, check/stir, 15-20 seconds, repeat, the meat you just heat through, the rice you'll have to check as it can be hot on outside but still stiff on the inside). Adding moisture is a good idea especially if it's been hanging out in the fridge.

    Low power. Like 20-30 percent essentially automates this process and works fine.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    You shouldn't be reviving rice! Rice is the worst thing to revive (it typically has living bacteria that can become mild to moderately harmful after resting for longer than 8 hours, even with heating and refrigeration). The odds are low, but enough higher than other things to make it worth just making new rice.

    Bacillus cereus is only a problem if the rice is left at room temperature for an extended period of time. Refrigeration is fine as always. The only caveat is to reheat rice once and ensure it's steaming hot on said reheat, which the saran wrap over the bowl does nicely.

    Even then, the worst it can do is vomiting/diarrhea with symptoms lasting a day or so in the worst cases. No big deal.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Wow, thanks for all the replies.

    I'm actually thinking of making an instant rice dish and then heating up some of the meat to mix in.

    I think I won't use the whole can so first I'll make the rice (takes 12 minutes) and then heat up some meat, like 1/2 or 1/3 of the can with the methods you all suggested.

    I wonder how long it will take overall to heat fully.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    If you are planning to save the meat, be sure not to store it in the can. The negative health effects maybe somewhat debatable, but getting a gross tinny flavor is likely. Store it in a tupperware.

  • DraygoDraygo Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Julius wrote: »
    Edit: It might depend on your microwave though. Also you might need to cook it for pretty long.

    Probably need to be covered so it doesn't dry out horrifically and stirred to help heat through faster. If you have a bit of beef stock to help keep it from drying out too badly, that would be good for it.

    I find the big thing with microwaves producing edible food is to adjust the power setting. Remember modern microwaves are pretty fucking powerful so just turning it on full blast is like sticking the marshmallow in the heart of the fire. It'll be hot pretty damn quick but it will also be inedible.

    Fun fact: Most microwaves only have 2 modes of operation, on and off.

    What the power setting does is adjust how often it switches between these modes. So if you put something in the microwave on a power level of 5 out of 10 for 20 minutes, the microwave will be on for a total of 10 minutes. Power level of 5 meaning it will be on for 5 seconds during every 10 seconds.

    Often you can get the same effect of a lower power level by cooking it on high, taking it out after a minute and stirring it, then putting it back in on high again. Stir one more time then eat. So if you are in a hurry do this.

    If you are not in a hurry you can heat the food more evenly by increasing the time it takes in the microwave. If the instructions call for heating it on high for 2 minutes, you can heat it on medium power for 4 instead.

  • Kilgore TroutKilgore Trout Registered User regular
    Draygo wrote: »
    Fun fact: Most microwaves only have 2 modes of operation, on and off.

    What the power setting does is adjust how often it switches between these modes. So if you put something in the microwave on a power level of 5 out of 10 for 20 minutes, the microwave will be on for a total of 10 minutes. Power level of 5 meaning it will be on for 5 seconds during every 10 seconds.

    Often you can get the same effect of a lower power level by cooking it on high, taking it out after a minute and stirring it, then putting it back in on high again. Stir one more time then eat. So if you are in a hurry do this.

    If you are not in a hurry you can heat the food more evenly by increasing the time it takes in the microwave. If the instructions call for heating it on high for 2 minutes, you can heat it on medium power for 4 instead.

    Normally I would demand secondary sources and test studies to back this up, but that is fascinating enough that I am going to take it at face value. That would explain why dishes always come out at furnace temperature no matter what setting you use.

  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    Draygo wrote: »
    Fun fact: Most microwaves only have 2 modes of operation, on and off.

    What the power setting does is adjust how often it switches between these modes. So if you put something in the microwave on a power level of 5 out of 10 for 20 minutes, the microwave will be on for a total of 10 minutes. Power level of 5 meaning it will be on for 5 seconds during every 10 seconds.

    Often you can get the same effect of a lower power level by cooking it on high, taking it out after a minute and stirring it, then putting it back in on high again. Stir one more time then eat. So if you are in a hurry do this.

    If you are not in a hurry you can heat the food more evenly by increasing the time it takes in the microwave. If the instructions call for heating it on high for 2 minutes, you can heat it on medium power for 4 instead.

    Normally I would demand secondary sources and test studies to back this up, but that is fascinating enough that I am going to take it at face value. That would explain why dishes always come out at furnace temperature no matter what setting you use.

    Completely true, if you ever listen to your microwave when it's on a lower power level you can hear the magnetron kick on/off.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I am going to sticky this as the polar opposite of the other stickied meat thread so that I can have the whole set.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator mod
    Draygo wrote: »
    Fun fact: Most microwaves only have 2 modes of operation, on and off.

    What the power setting does is adjust how often it switches between these modes. So if you put something in the microwave on a power level of 5 out of 10 for 20 minutes, the microwave will be on for a total of 10 minutes. Power level of 5 meaning it will be on for 5 seconds during every 10 seconds.

    Often you can get the same effect of a lower power level by cooking it on high, taking it out after a minute and stirring it, then putting it back in on high again. Stir one more time then eat. So if you are in a hurry do this.

    If you are not in a hurry you can heat the food more evenly by increasing the time it takes in the microwave. If the instructions call for heating it on high for 2 minutes, you can heat it on medium power for 4 instead.

    Normally I would demand secondary sources and test studies to back this up, but that is fascinating enough that I am going to take it at face value. That would explain why dishes always come out at furnace temperature no matter what setting you use.
    Here's an explanation by xkcd:
    https://what-if.xkcd.com/131/

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  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    so is this the canned meat thread in general now?

    because if so I could use a good spam breakfast recipes.

    I have canned corned beef of waffles with fried eggs occasionally, but something different would be nice. And there's just something about the saltiness of canned meats that goes with breakfast so well.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Gross, but sure! Put your canned meat recipes here! Any CANNED meat is in-bounds.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Geth-approved!

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    I like drained canned tuna in scrambled eggs with come shredded cheddar melted on top.

  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    I just slice the Spam up thinly and fry it. Eat it with anything. Eggs. A salad. It's good that way.

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  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Could this also be a general microwave cooking thread?

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    Buffalo Chicken Ranch Mac and Cheese That Will Make You Hate Yourself (More Than You Already Do)

    • 1 Box of mac and cheese. I use the costco brand, but use what you like.
    • Butter
    • Milk
    • Frank's Red Hot
    • Ranch dressing OR just ranch dressing mix (the powder) - you can get away with just using the powder if you want. The end result will be a lot thicker, too. Use a little extra butter/margarine if you do this.
    • 1 can of costco chicken breast: http://i.imgur.com/D26sNIU.jpg
    • Salt
    • Pepper

    Boil water with salt. Cook the macaroni like normal. Strain the macaroni, but save 1/4 cup of the pasta water.
    Back to the pot. Over low heat, melt 1/4 stick of butter. When it's almost there, add the milk, pasta water and cheese packet. Whisk everything together until you have your Kraft Roux™.
    Drain the water from the chicken and dump it in the pot. Add 1/4 cup of ranch, 1/4 cup of Frank's. Add more or less Frank's depending on how spicy you want it.
    Mix this all together, taking care to shred the chicken by just smooshing it around a lot. You can use a wooden spoon to do this pretty easily. Dump the macaroni in the pot at this point and mix until everything is all covered. Add ground pepper to taste. Hate yourself when you eat the whole goddamn thing.

    I sometimes throw in some frozen peas. For the health.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Psykoma wrote: »
    Could this also be a general microwave cooking thread?

    Nope. There must be canned meat involved.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Can anyone recommend good brands of canned meat or good specific canned meat products (other than those already mentioned)?

    I'm mostly a beef guy.

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  • NijaNija Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    I like the low sodium spam and the chorizo spam.

    Generally sliced thinly and fried. Occasionally cut up into small pieces and added to a salad, eggs or mac and cheese (as others have suggested).

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend good brands of canned meat or good specific canned meat products (other than those already mentioned)?

    I'm mostly a beef guy.

    Stuff like canned chili is crazy versatile. Hormel seems to be the most popular but I don't notice any major difference between the bigger brands. Heat it in a pot or microwave and add seasons and other ingredients to preference. One of my favorites is with pepper, cayenne pepper, Tapatio, and a can of diced green chilies. Top it with shredded cheese and a dollop of sour cream.

    Literally takes about 3-4 minutes to make if using the microwave. When I have more spices I prefer the stove though to give them time to permeate the dish.

  • Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    You shouldn't be reviving rice! Rice is the worst thing to revive (it typically has living bacteria that can become mild to moderately harmful after resting for longer than 8 hours, even with heating and refrigeration). The odds are low, but enough higher than other things to make it worth just making new rice.

    Bacillus cereus is only a problem if the rice is left at room temperature for an extended period of time. Refrigeration is fine as always. The only caveat is to reheat rice once and ensure it's steaming hot on said reheat, which the saran wrap over the bowl does nicely.

    Even then, the worst it can do is vomiting/diarrhea with symptoms lasting a day or so in the worst cases. No big deal.

    I don't mean to scare you, but http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20194285

    I think it's another one of those things where if you're really young really old or pregnant then you have to be extra careful.

  • Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    Oh, and speaking of things that shouldn't be eaten while pregnant, are canned fish recipes ok for this thread? Like anchovies! :3

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Pure Din wrote: »
    Oh, and speaking of things that shouldn't be eaten while pregnant, are canned fish recipes ok for this thread? Like anchovies! :3

    Only if you classify fish as meat.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Pure Din wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    You shouldn't be reviving rice! Rice is the worst thing to revive (it typically has living bacteria that can become mild to moderately harmful after resting for longer than 8 hours, even with heating and refrigeration). The odds are low, but enough higher than other things to make it worth just making new rice.

    Bacillus cereus is only a problem if the rice is left at room temperature for an extended period of time. Refrigeration is fine as always. The only caveat is to reheat rice once and ensure it's steaming hot on said reheat, which the saran wrap over the bowl does nicely.

    Even then, the worst it can do is vomiting/diarrhea with symptoms lasting a day or so in the worst cases. No big deal.

    I don't mean to scare you, but http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20194285

    I think it's another one of those things where if you're really young really old or pregnant then you have to be extra careful.

    I don't know if you have the journal access but that abstract makes no mention of how long or under what conditions the rice was stored before reheating. I don't think anybody here is saying eating cooked rice that you left out for a solid day is a great idea, just that a couple hours at room tempeture is unlikely to be a serious risk.

    The only google hit I got about a testing method had them leaving the trial samples at 30 C for 48 hours. Even then they only detected toxins in one of the three batches.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Pure Din wrote: »
    Oh, and speaking of things that shouldn't be eaten while pregnant, are canned fish recipes ok for this thread? Like anchovies! :3

    I'll allow it

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Foomy wrote: »
    so is this the canned meat thread in general now?

    because if so I could use a good spam breakfast recipes.

    I have canned corned beef of waffles with fried eggs occasionally, but something different would be nice. And there's just something about the saltiness of canned meats that goes with breakfast so well.

    I know a guy who uses SPAM as a moisturizing agent or something in cupcakes.
    He calls them Spupcakes.

    I had them once. They were pretty good. Didn't taste spammy at all.

    My wife grew up eating slices of spam dipped in beaten egg and fried for breakfast.

    When I was living on my own during the summers at college, I made breakfast burritos using canned corned beef hash. Just scramble up some eggs, throw the corned beef in with them to heat up. Put on a tortilla with cheese and salsa and you've got bachelor chow.

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  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    hmm, that fried spam dipped in eggs sounds interesting, going to have to try that soon.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    Yes, Mary's Kitchen Corned Beef hash is good, if you spice it.

    Also, smoked oysters are pretty great out of a can.

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