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Pluto Flyby July 14th (photos, gifs)

[Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubtRegistered User regular
edited July 2015 in Debate and/or Discourse
Until 2015, these were the best images anybody had of Pluto, the tiny dwarf planet beyond Neptune:
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Ooops, I meant this, highly optimized image taken from many many hours of observation and processing
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Yeah. Pretty lame. Considering the amazing photos Hubble has given us, it may be surprising that this is the best it can do. The simple explanation is that stars and nebulae and galaxies are incredibly far away, they're also really big. Pluto is closer (but still so far it takes a beam of light over 4 hours from the sun to reach it; it reaches Earth in 8 minutes) but is tiny and dark. Hubble is as limited by the size of its lens and distance as any other telescope.

The only way to get a really good look, well that's to visit.

New Horizons
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This probe was launched 9 and a half years ago (back when Pluto was still an official planet) and has been working its way closer ever since. Now its just about to arrive.


This post is basically a way for me to organize photos that I'm already look at and showing anyone within reach. We might as well talk about it too.


I took these images from Phil Plaits Bad Astronomy blog, worth reading for anyone into this sort of thing. Look how we can see the moons around Pluto.
Moons optimized:
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But look how rough the original image is. Taking photos from millions of kms away, then beaming them back billions of km to earth is no easy business. There is a lot of processing that is done on a lot of these images to improve and get information out of them.
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Here is a sample of images as the resolution has increased.

April
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May
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June
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June 29
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July
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July 7th:
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July 9th
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10th
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12th
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12th (Charon)
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13th
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14th
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Since New Horizons is approaching Pluto at around 14km/s (very fast), the image quality will really start to shoot up in the coming days. The closest approach happens on July 14th. We'll only get the best images about a week or so later, as the probe is too busy taking photos and measurements to bother beaming stuff back to Earth. Still, we'll be seeing regular updates of a brand new world, that nobody has yet laid eyes on. This doesn't happen very much, and I am very excited for it.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Aaaaah those weird features are just getting weirder I'm so excited. Pluto has for so long been just sort of a big round featureless asteroid in my mind, but it appears to have a bunch of interesting shit going on. Cannot wait for the 14th!

    We're all in this together
  • Emissary42Emissary42 Registered User regular
    There's an interesting online tool on one of NASA's sites called Pluto Time. Enter a location on Earth, and it will give you the times that the relative brightness outdoors is equal to what you would see at noon on Pluto.

  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    Aaaaah those weird features are just getting weirder I'm so excited. Pluto has for so long been just sort of a big round featureless asteroid in my mind, but it appears to have a bunch of interesting shit going on. Cannot wait for the 14th!

    Yeah it seems to have a ton of variety on its surface features. I bet there will be plenty of surprises. And Charon too we'll get to see in good resolution. Oh am I ever pumped.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Also that July 7th photo kind of looks like an angry little ball-headed person. Big dark eyes, lighter area is the face, darker area is the shaved head.

    We're all in this together
  • RchanenRchanen Registered User regular
    I just want pictures of the basalt towers and the fungi.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    That July gif where Pluto keeps getting bigger is just awe inspiring

    And those features! Wish it wouldn't take another couple decades just to get a probe out there to map them out.

  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    That July gif where Pluto keeps getting bigger is just awe inspiring

    And those features! Wish it wouldn't take another couple decades just to get a probe out there to map them out.

    You're in luck! The eventual resolution will be around 500 times greater than the July 7th image. We'll be able to see craters or mountains or canyons or geysers of whatever. Though, we won't be able to see that sort of detail over the whole of the planet, mostly just the side facing the probe during the closest approach. We'll also get some great images of the moon Charon.

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  • NbspNbsp she laughs, like God her mind's like a diamondRegistered User regular
    I heard Pluto will freeze up soon and the surface won't be available for several hundred years or something, so this is basically our only chance to see the planet and if we fuck it up we'll never see it.

  • Emissary42Emissary42 Registered User regular
    Nbsp wrote: »
    I heard Pluto will freeze up soon and the surface won't be available for several hundred years or something, so this is basically our only chance to see the planet and if we fuck it up we'll never see it.

    I think that was the atmosphere (if one is present). The rush to get the mission launched on-time was to get there before whatever tenuous atmosphere froze back to the surface for the 120-year or so long fall and winter.

  • NbspNbsp she laughs, like God her mind's like a diamondRegistered User regular
    Looks like the next century of humans could be skiing on Pluto.

  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    Nbsp wrote: »
    I heard Pluto will freeze up soon and the surface won't be available for several hundred years or something, so this is basically our only chance to see the planet and if we fuck it up we'll never see it.

    Its pretty thoroughly frozen right now; its probably mostly water ice.

    I think what you're thinking of its nitrogen atmosphere freezing, which happens at less than -200C I believe, and I think this might vary over Pluto's year. Even without the nitrogen there's probably frozen CO2 and the like.

    So be careful when skiing. Your skis should be pre-chilled to ultra low temperatures. If they're human temperature, then they'd instantly vaporize the ice they touched, giving you, uh, an extra push.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited July 2015
    "Tycho? wrote:
    So be careful when skiing. Your skis should be pre-chilled to ultra low temperatures. If they're human temperature, then they'd instantly vaporize the ice they touched, giving you, uh, an extra push.

    https://youtu.be/iG7ykqlQtBA?t=22

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    If Charon doesn't turn out to be a Mass Relay I will be very disappointed.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    If Charon doesn't turn out to be a Mass Relay I will be very disappointed.

    Screw that. I don't want Reapers to be a real thing.

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    If Charon doesn't turn out to be a Mass Relay I will be very disappointed.

    Just remember the Charon relay was is covered in ice hundreds of kilometres thick. So if we don't see it, all is not yet lost.

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  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
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  • SealSeal Registered User regular
    They really are insanely close together. If that were the earth and moon you people on the coasts would be fleeing a miles high tidal surge and the rest of us would be wondering what the chances of being hit by debris is after the moon flies apart at the seams because that would have to be well past the roche limit.

  • Emissary42Emissary42 Registered User regular
    Seal wrote: »
    They really are insanely close together. If that were the earth and moon you people on the coasts would be fleeing a miles high tidal surge and the rest of us would be wondering what the chances of being hit by debris is after the moon flies apart at the seams because that would have to be well past the roche limit.

    Well, seeing as Pluto is something less than 20% the mass of the moon and around 70% its diameter, I'd bet it can have satellites in much tighter orbits than one would expect.

  • SealSeal Registered User regular
    I wonder if that's a common part of early solar system evolution. A small planet and a handful of happy little moons, until the amount of mass in the small system hits a tipping point and things start being torn apart and then congeal in a central body.

  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Seal wrote: »
    They really are insanely close together. If that were the earth and moon you people on the coasts would be fleeing a miles high tidal surge and the rest of us would be wondering what the chances of being hit by debris is after the moon flies apart at the seams because that would have to be well past the roche limit.

    Yeah just how close they were together really struck me as well, it was messing with my sense of scale.

    So I put in an image of earth, to scale:
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    edit: so you could fly from Pluto to Charon and cover around the distance you'd cover when you fly from the US to China.

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  • NbspNbsp she laughs, like God her mind's like a diamondRegistered User regular
    If you could softly place Pluto on Earth what would happen?

  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    Nbsp wrote: »
    If you could softly place Pluto on Earth what would happen?

    Well we wouldn't be around to post about it.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Nbsp wrote: »
    If you could softly place Pluto on Earth what would happen?

    I'll hazard some uneducated guesses that may or may not be anywhere near the mark.

    I'd imagine Pluto would be shredded by Earth's gravity, and probably wind up smeared across Earth's surface. That process would dump a lot of energy into the atmosphere, which is problematic in a global firestorm sort of way. Earth's center of gravity would change. This would alter Earth's orbit, spin, and probably the Moon's orbit as well. Just bad news all around.

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  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    I would wanna see math on all that. I'm thinking, while it'd totally be catastrophic, placing Pluto on earth without any velocity would probably not destroy everything.

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    So I've been wondering, and I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it, but why is the thread title dating the flyby in June?

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    So I've been wondering, and I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it, but why is the thread title dating the flyby in June?
    Don't you know how physics works? It's all to do with the speed of light. We're only just now receiving images from the 14th of June.

  • MorranMorran Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    So I've been wondering, and I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it, but why is the thread title dating the flyby in June?

    Typo? The flyby will be on July 14th.

    Incidentally, that is also the stated time for the next update to the XKCD blog "what if". Give the awesome cover XKCD did on the Philae landing (http://xkcd1446.org/#144), I'm quite excited about this update!

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Seal wrote: »
    They really are insanely close together. If that were the earth and moon you people on the coasts would be fleeing a miles high tidal surge and the rest of us would be wondering what the chances of being hit by debris is after the moon flies apart at the seams because that would have to be well past the roche limit.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm horribly wrong, but some factoid I read somewhere claimed that the distance between Earth and the moon is enough to fit all the other planets in the solar system inbetween them.

    Though doing that would be a Bad Idea.

  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    Vee2956214 wrote:
    So I've been wondering, and I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it, but why is the thread title dating the flyby in June?

    Because I'm a big stupid moron. Fixed.

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  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Seal wrote: »
    They really are insanely close together. If that were the earth and moon you people on the coasts would be fleeing a miles high tidal surge and the rest of us would be wondering what the chances of being hit by debris is after the moon flies apart at the seams because that would have to be well past the roche limit.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm horribly wrong, but some factoid I read somewhere claimed that the distance between Earth and the moon is enough to fit all the other planets in the solar system inbetween them.

    Though doing that would be a Bad Idea.

    That's true, if you placed them all end-to-end they would just barely fit.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Shivahn wrote: »
    I would wanna see math on all that. I'm thinking, while it'd totally be catastrophic, placing Pluto on earth without any velocity would probably not destroy everything.

    I did some rough numbers last night. Assuming Pluto had zero velocity and was sitting on the surface, it would have a gravitational potential energy of around 10^29J, or around 100 trillion megatonnes equivalent. Calculated by E= mgh/2, where E is energy in Joules, m is mass of Pluto = 10^22kg, g is surface gravity = 9.8m/s^2, h is height, to Plutos center of mass, so its radius of 1184000m. This is a lot, but now blow up the entire earth lot.

    Pluto would kinda... flow, from its sphere shape into a blob as it falls onto the earth (and as the earth's crust is crushed beneath it). Earthquakes, tsunamis, shock waves would be enormous and ongoing, since it'd take a while for Pluto to settle.

    Speaking of that, Plutos super chilled state would have its temperature raised very violently. Solid CO2, nitrogen, water ice would be vaporized, causing its volume to increase by a factor of around 1000. A huge amount of stuff would be ejected from Pluto and would fall onto other parts of the earth. Maybe you'd even get a ring system briefly! Though the altitude is probably too low.

    edits: maths

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  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    This really sounds like a question for XKCD.

  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    [Tycho?] wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    I would wanna see math on all that. I'm thinking, while it'd totally be catastrophic, placing Pluto on earth without any velocity would probably not destroy everything.

    I did some rough numbers last night. Assuming Pluto had zero velocity and was sitting on the surface, it would have a gravitational potential energy of around 10^29J, or around 100 trillion megatonnes equivalent. Calculated by E= mgh/2, where E is energy in Joules, m is mass of Pluto = 10^22kg, g is surface gravity = 9.8m/s^2, h is height, to Plutos center of mass, so its radius of 1184000m. This is a lot, but now blow up the entire earth lot.

    Pluto would kinda... flow, from its sphere shape into a blob as it falls onto the earth (and as the earth's crust is crushed beneath it). Earthquakes, tsunamis, shock waves would be enormous and ongoing, since it'd take a while for Pluto to settle.

    Speaking of that, Plutos super chilled state would have its temperature raised very violently. Solid CO2, nitrogen, water ice would be vaporized, causing its volume to increase by a factor of around 1000. A huge amount of stuff would be ejected from Pluto and would fall onto other parts of the earth. Maybe you'd even get a ring system briefly! Though the altitude is probably too low.

    edits: maths

    With a mass that large I don't think you can simply do mgh/2 because the gravitational force exerted by Pluto would not be negligible. I could be wrong though

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Seal wrote: »
    They really are insanely close together. If that were the earth and moon you people on the coasts would be fleeing a miles high tidal surge and the rest of us would be wondering what the chances of being hit by debris is after the moon flies apart at the seams because that would have to be well past the roche limit.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm horribly wrong, but some factoid I read somewhere claimed that the distance between Earth and the moon is enough to fit all the other planets in the solar system inbetween them.

    Though doing that would be a Bad Idea.

    It would be awesome!

    Now someone must do the math and figure out how much energy would be created if all the planets would be smooshed together like that. Enough to create a brown dwarf??

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Seal wrote: »
    They really are insanely close together. If that were the earth and moon you people on the coasts would be fleeing a miles high tidal surge and the rest of us would be wondering what the chances of being hit by debris is after the moon flies apart at the seams because that would have to be well past the roche limit.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm horribly wrong, but some factoid I read somewhere claimed that the distance between Earth and the moon is enough to fit all the other planets in the solar system inbetween them.

    Though doing that would be a Bad Idea.

    It would be awesome!

    Now someone must do the math and figure out how much energy would be created if all the planets would be smooshed together like that. Enough to create a brown dwarf??

    I'm no scientist, but I'm imagining all the planets being absorbed into Jupiter

    I also imagine the sound would be something like "Bloop"

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    I'll never get over how the RTG on the New Horizon's probe looks exactly like the same device in Kerbal Space Program. It'll never fail to bring a smile on my face.

    So, what's the betting pool on some horrifying, terrible secret finally revealed on Pluto's visible geography? Eerie face? Terrifying, open maw? Large ruins visible from space?

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