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With 3 weeks left on the warranty, do I chase this issue now, with a good chance that they'll take my TV for repairs for a month and then say "TV works" and send it back?
Kif, we have a conundrum.
New seasons of TV shows don't start up for two months. Get it repaired now for free.
New DBZ-movie actually succeeded in disappointing me. Which is a remarkable feat akin to limbo-dancing.
Vegeta beats Icebox, but at the last minute, Frosty is dangerous again so that Goku can be the one to suddenly save the world with a raw supermove.
PLA on
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
When a film is coming out that is a sequel/remake/adapatation of something I was/is a fan of, the first thing I do is check the filmography of the director. That will tell me whether to get hyped or not. I almost never care about who is staring in it - a good director can make even a bad performance work and the best directors get good performances out of their actors.
Is it actually worthwhile or is it one of those shared youth media memories
In my opinion it's something that keys into nostalgia. Others disagree and recommend the abridged stuff. I watched a few of them and was just like "Yeah... no. This is not entertaining."
Is it actually worthwhile or is it one of those shared youth media memories
It's probably not worth watching. It's super drawn out and is mostly interesting as an influence for anime that came later.
Dragon Ball Super (new series) is coming out and might be good, and the recent movies are pretty good in terms of "cool fight scenes," so you could just try hopping on to the new DBZ. There's been such a gap they're not really assuming you know everything about the original series.
I ate an engineer
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syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Teamregular
Is it actually worthwhile or is it one of those shared youth media memories
Don't watch the real thing at this point, that is a road to ruin.
The show doesn't make new adult fans, it just has a sizable hooked fan base.
I had a roommate who was hooked, and I watched one story with him that involved fighting someone called Maijin Boo I think? Then the next story was pretty much the the exact same shit with a new bad guy and I remembered I wasn't 6 any more and I could handle more complex stories, so I stopped.
That said, I have heard decent things about DBZ Abridged.
Edit: apparently abridged is bad too! Bonus, spare yourself any of it!
syndalis on
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
@Japan if you want anime.manga may I suggest Overdrive
The story revolves around the first year high school student Mikoto Shinozaki and his goal to become the greatest cyclist in the world and winning the Tour de France.
Is it actually worthwhile or is it one of those shared youth media memories
The original is burly men saving the universe by beating up other burly men/aliens with lots of slow dramatic dialog and filler because they were animating faster than Toriyama was putting out the manga.
Dragonball Z Kai cuts out the filler and adds the blood and cursing back in, but it's still a story about burly men beating up burly men to save the world. Which, if is your thing, is groovy.
Dragonball Z Abridged is a fan parody that's been going for years where they completely revoice everyone and turn it into a hilarious self-referential comedy.
When a film is coming out that is a sequel/remake/adapatation of something I was/is a fan of, the first thing I do is check the filmography of the director. That will tell me whether to get hyped or not. I almost never care about who is staring in it - a good director can make even a bad performance work and the best directors get good performances out of their actors.
This is absolutely true and the most important thing. You can actually brute-force decent performances out of bad actors or even non-actors. Curtis Hanson famously did it with Eminem in 8 Mile; he just shot literally 30+ takes of every single scene, just doing every line over and over and over and over and again, line by line, sometimes word by word, and then reassembled all these countless hours of footage in the editing room into a "performance." The movie came out and people were like WHOA EMINEM CAN ACT
With 3 weeks left on the warranty, do I chase this issue now, with a good chance that they'll take my TV for repairs for a month and then say "TV works" and send it back?
Kif, we have a conundrum.
New seasons of TV shows don't start up for two months. Get it repaired now for free.
Guess there's no conundrum at all, whatever happened damaged either the screen or the backlight:
That's a completely blank sheet, huge dark cloud in the middle of the screen.
@Japan if you want anime.manga may I suggest Overdrive
The story revolves around the first year high school student Mikoto Shinozaki and his goal to become the greatest cyclist in the world and winning the Tour de France.
I will not accept any story about the Tour De France that doesn't involve the winner, and most everybody in the top 10, blood doping and taking performance enhancing drugs.
I'm aware that every sport has this issue, but the TDF is certainly the most entertaining due to their enforcement.
Is it actually worthwhile or is it one of those shared youth media memories
It's a bunch of dudes fighting or staring at each other getting ready to fight. And instead of using their wits or clever tactics to win, they rely on outside help or deus ex machinas or dumb luck and grit to win. There aren't any rules - when the hero is on the ropes, victory usually materializes out of thin air.
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
With 3 weeks left on the warranty, do I chase this issue now, with a good chance that they'll take my TV for repairs for a month and then say "TV works" and send it back?
Kif, we have a conundrum.
New seasons of TV shows don't start up for two months. Get it repaired now for free.
Guess there's no conundrum at all, whatever happened damaged either the screen or the backlight:
That's a completely blank sheet, huge dark cloud in the middle of the screen.
I think a small girl is going to climb out of the screen and murder you.
Sorry.
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When a film is coming out that is a sequel/remake/adapatation of something I was/is a fan of, the first thing I do is check the filmography of the director. That will tell me whether to get hyped or not. I almost never care about who is staring in it - a good director can make even a bad performance work and the best directors get good performances out of their actors.
This is absolutely true and the most important thing. You can actually brute-force decent performances out of bad actors or even non-actors. Curtis Hanson famously did it with Eminem in 8 Mile; he just shot literally 30+ takes of every single scene, just doing every line over and over and over and over and again, line by line, sometimes word by word, and then reassembled all these countless hours of footage in the editing room into a "performance." The movie came out and people were like WHOA EMINEM CAN ACT
syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Teamregular
edited July 2015
Single fights in DBZ can take multiple episodes to conclude, and will have large chunks of time where the opponents are staring at each other and thinking to themselves about how this person is tougher than they expected.
This will occasionally cut to a training montage on a space station while some dead dude with a halo is doing crunches and hopes he can become strong enough to help his friends before the fight concludes.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
If you never watched DBZ DBZA probably isn't that much fun. Part of why DBZA works is that it takes all the DBZ bullshit and either exaggerates it to the nth degree, or flips it, or recontextualizes it. Or do the entire "Garlic Jr. saga" in 10 seconds because it's crap.
@Japan if you want anime.manga may I suggest Overdrive
The story revolves around the first year high school student Mikoto Shinozaki and his goal to become the greatest cyclist in the world and winning the Tour de France.
I will not accept any story about the Tour De France that doesn't involve the winner, and most everybody in the top 10, blood doping and taking performance enhancing drugs.
I'm aware that every sport has this issue, but the TDF is certainly the most entertaining due to their enforcement.
Interestingly, only doping positive so far this year has been Luca Paolini for cocaine metabolites, which is weird given it comes just as he started to put in performances that would give him some leverage come contract negotiation
There's kind of a question mark over Lars Boom and his low cortisol levels but that's not a doping issue per se
I doubt that Dragon Ball Super will be good. It will have a few funny scenes. And the fighting will still be "Goku's beam isn't strong enough, but now it's strong enough!"
I miss when people did things in fights. I dunno, like moving. Things.
If you never watched DBZ DBZA probably isn't that much fun. Part of why DBZA works is that it takes all the DBZ bullshit and either exaggerates it to the nth degree, or flips it, or recontextualizes it. Or do the entire "Garlic Jr. saga" in 10 seconds because it's crap.
I dunno. I have a few friends who never watched the original series but still love it. My own experience watching was super fragmented and the memories are vague.
I think it does a really good job on its own.
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
Oh man. The forest fire on the horizon is gaining steam. Lots of smoke visible today.
When a film is coming out that is a sequel/remake/adapatation of something I was/is a fan of, the first thing I do is check the filmography of the director. That will tell me whether to get hyped or not. I almost never care about who is staring in it - a good director can make even a bad performance work and the best directors get good performances out of their actors.
This is absolutely true and the most important thing. You can actually brute-force decent performances out of bad actors or even non-actors. Curtis Hanson famously did it with Eminem in 8 Mile; he just shot literally 30+ takes of every single scene, just doing every line over and over and over and over and again, line by line, sometimes word by word, and then reassembled all these countless hours of footage in the editing room into a "performance." The movie came out and people were like WHOA EMINEM CAN ACT
This is also how directors work with little kids. Like the early Harry Potter films, Goonies, etc. You roll the cameras, give the kids some direction, rinse and repeat. Sometimes it's perfect on the first take, sometimes you go over and over again because kids be looking at the wrong things, distracted, fit of the giggles etc.
The way directors pull great performances out of small children is just patience mostly.
@Japan if you want anime.manga may I suggest Overdrive
The story revolves around the first year high school student Mikoto Shinozaki and his goal to become the greatest cyclist in the world and winning the Tour de France.
I will not accept any story about the Tour De France that doesn't involve the winner, and most everybody in the top 10, blood doping and taking performance enhancing drugs.
I'm aware that every sport has this issue, but the TDF is certainly the most entertaining due to their enforcement.
Interestingly, only doping positive so far this year has been Luca Paolini for cocaine metabolites, which is weird given it comes just as he started to put in performances that would give him some leverage come contract negotiation
There's kind of a question mark over Lars Boom and his low cortisol levels but that's not a doping issue per se
By now the odds of doping in cycling are probably a good deal lower than in other major sports.
Cyclists actually have to regularly give blood and their values are all charted, so that anomalies are spotted. They also have to give whereabouts, their sleeping arrangements for every day of the year, and checks can be done at any of those locations. Miss 2 of those and you're out for a year.
Most sports don't come close to this kind of testing.
When a film is coming out that is a sequel/remake/adapatation of something I was/is a fan of, the first thing I do is check the filmography of the director. That will tell me whether to get hyped or not. I almost never care about who is staring in it - a good director can make even a bad performance work and the best directors get good performances out of their actors.
This is absolutely true and the most important thing. You can actually brute-force decent performances out of bad actors or even non-actors. Curtis Hanson famously did it with Eminem in 8 Mile; he just shot literally 30+ takes of every single scene, just doing every line over and over and over and over and again, line by line, sometimes word by word, and then reassembled all these countless hours of footage in the editing room into a "performance." The movie came out and people were like WHOA EMINEM CAN ACT
This is also how directors work with little kids. Like the early Harry Potter films, Goonies, etc. You roll the cameras, give the kids some direction, rinse and repeat. Sometimes it's perfect on the first take, sometimes you go over and over again because kids be looking at the wrong things, distracted, fit of the giggles etc.
The way directors pull great performances out of small children is just patience mostly.
The comparison of Eminem to small children puts ME in a fit of the giggles.
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MrMisterJesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered Userregular
When a film is coming out that is a sequel/remake/adapatation of something I was/is a fan of, the first thing I do is check the filmography of the director. That will tell me whether to get hyped or not. I almost never care about who is staring in it - a good director can make even a bad performance work and the best directors get good performances out of their actors.
This is absolutely true and the most important thing. You can actually brute-force decent performances out of bad actors or even non-actors. Curtis Hanson famously did it with Eminem in 8 Mile; he just shot literally 30+ takes of every single scene, just doing every line over and over and over and over and again, line by line, sometimes word by word, and then reassembled all these countless hours of footage in the editing room into a "performance." The movie came out and people were like WHOA EMINEM CAN ACT
This is also how directors work with little kids. Like the early Harry Potter films, Goonies, etc. You roll the cameras, give the kids some direction, rinse and repeat. Sometimes it's perfect on the first take, sometimes you go over and over again because kids be looking at the wrong things, distracted, fit of the giggles etc.
The way directors pull great performances out of small children is just patience mostly.
The comparison of Eminem to small children puts ME in a fit of the giggles.
Watch the Goonies again sometime and keep an eye on the older kids; Josh Brolin, Martha Plimpton, and Kerri Green (Brand, Stef, and Andy)
They are frustrated during many scenes and trying not to show it! These are undoubtedly the scenes that went super long because the little kids were being kids.
Also this has caused me to clean my PC monitor and it's quite obvious that I hadn't done that for too long. I'm not supposed to be able to actually see the difference.
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MrMisterJesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered Userregular
I was one of those people who was like: WHOA, Eminem can act!
And so dreamy too...
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JacobkoshGamble a stamp.I can show you how to be a real man!Moderatormod
When a film is coming out that is a sequel/remake/adapatation of something I was/is a fan of, the first thing I do is check the filmography of the director. That will tell me whether to get hyped or not. I almost never care about who is staring in it - a good director can make even a bad performance work and the best directors get good performances out of their actors.
This is absolutely true and the most important thing. You can actually brute-force decent performances out of bad actors or even non-actors. Curtis Hanson famously did it with Eminem in 8 Mile; he just shot literally 30+ takes of every single scene, just doing every line over and over and over and over and again, line by line, sometimes word by word, and then reassembled all these countless hours of footage in the editing room into a "performance." The movie came out and people were like WHOA EMINEM CAN ACT
This is also how directors work with little kids. Like the early Harry Potter films, Goonies, etc. You roll the cameras, give the kids some direction, rinse and repeat. Sometimes it's perfect on the first take, sometimes you go over and over again because kids be looking at the wrong things, distracted, fit of the giggles etc.
The way directors pull great performances out of small children is just patience mostly.
I think it explains a lot about the inconsistent quality of modern movies when we look at film school curricula, which super prioritize shot composition and framing and editing and other technical aspects of the job (which are important, to be sure) but often kind of leave students to their own devices when it comes to learning the interpersonal, management, and logistics skills that separate out the really great directors from the "ok for a music video" directors.
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The best DBZ anything is DBZ Abridged.
Is it actually worthwhile or is it one of those shared youth media memories
it's horrible and the abridged version everyone touts is horrible too
In my opinion it's something that keys into nostalgia. Others disagree and recommend the abridged stuff. I watched a few of them and was just like "Yeah... no. This is not entertaining."
YMMV
It's probably not worth watching. It's super drawn out and is mostly interesting as an influence for anime that came later.
Dragon Ball Super (new series) is coming out and might be good, and the recent movies are pretty good in terms of "cool fight scenes," so you could just try hopping on to the new DBZ. There's been such a gap they're not really assuming you know everything about the original series.
Don't watch the real thing at this point, that is a road to ruin.
The show doesn't make new adult fans, it just has a sizable hooked fan base.
I had a roommate who was hooked, and I watched one story with him that involved fighting someone called Maijin Boo I think? Then the next story was pretty much the the exact same shit with a new bad guy and I remembered I wasn't 6 any more and I could handle more complex stories, so I stopped.
That said, I have heard decent things about DBZ Abridged.
Edit: apparently abridged is bad too! Bonus, spare yourself any of it!
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
No, it's really bad. I have a fair bit of nostalgia for it, but there's no reason to watch it if you're not a small child with few other options
The original is burly men saving the universe by beating up other burly men/aliens with lots of slow dramatic dialog and filler because they were animating faster than Toriyama was putting out the manga.
Dragonball Z Kai cuts out the filler and adds the blood and cursing back in, but it's still a story about burly men beating up burly men to save the world. Which, if is your thing, is groovy.
Dragonball Z Abridged is a fan parody that's been going for years where they completely revoice everyone and turn it into a hilarious self-referential comedy.
I like old Dragon Ball more, but it's super old and dated.
This is absolutely true and the most important thing. You can actually brute-force decent performances out of bad actors or even non-actors. Curtis Hanson famously did it with Eminem in 8 Mile; he just shot literally 30+ takes of every single scene, just doing every line over and over and over and over and again, line by line, sometimes word by word, and then reassembled all these countless hours of footage in the editing room into a "performance." The movie came out and people were like WHOA EMINEM CAN ACT
Guess there's no conundrum at all, whatever happened damaged either the screen or the backlight:
That's a completely blank sheet, huge dark cloud in the middle of the screen.
I will not accept any story about the Tour De France that doesn't involve the winner, and most everybody in the top 10, blood doping and taking performance enhancing drugs.
I'm aware that every sport has this issue, but the TDF is certainly the most entertaining due to their enforcement.
The fuck is this bullshit?
Abridged is amazingly well written dialogue.
It's a bunch of dudes fighting or staring at each other getting ready to fight. And instead of using their wits or clever tactics to win, they rely on outside help or deus ex machinas or dumb luck and grit to win. There aren't any rules - when the hero is on the ropes, victory usually materializes out of thin air.
I think a small girl is going to climb out of the screen and murder you.
Sorry.
oh man how humiliating
This will occasionally cut to a training montage on a space station while some dead dude with a halo is doing crunches and hopes he can become strong enough to help his friends before the fight concludes.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
take 1
great thanks mekhi, that's a wrap
watch yu yu hakusho instead
DBZ itself is awful.
Interestingly, only doping positive so far this year has been Luca Paolini for cocaine metabolites, which is weird given it comes just as he started to put in performances that would give him some leverage come contract negotiation
There's kind of a question mark over Lars Boom and his low cortisol levels but that's not a doping issue per se
I miss when people did things in fights. I dunno, like moving. Things.
I dunno. I have a few friends who never watched the original series but still love it. My own experience watching was super fragmented and the memories are vague.
I think it does a really good job on its own.
This is also how directors work with little kids. Like the early Harry Potter films, Goonies, etc. You roll the cameras, give the kids some direction, rinse and repeat. Sometimes it's perfect on the first take, sometimes you go over and over again because kids be looking at the wrong things, distracted, fit of the giggles etc.
The way directors pull great performances out of small children is just patience mostly.
By now the odds of doping in cycling are probably a good deal lower than in other major sports.
Cyclists actually have to regularly give blood and their values are all charted, so that anomalies are spotted. They also have to give whereabouts, their sleeping arrangements for every day of the year, and checks can be done at any of those locations. Miss 2 of those and you're out for a year.
Most sports don't come close to this kind of testing.
10/10 scariest scene in bambi would not watch again
Watch the Goonies again sometime and keep an eye on the older kids; Josh Brolin, Martha Plimpton, and Kerri Green (Brand, Stef, and Andy)
They are frustrated during many scenes and trying not to show it! These are undoubtedly the scenes that went super long because the little kids were being kids.
And so dreamy too...
I think it explains a lot about the inconsistent quality of modern movies when we look at film school curricula, which super prioritize shot composition and framing and editing and other technical aspects of the job (which are important, to be sure) but often kind of leave students to their own devices when it comes to learning the interpersonal, management, and logistics skills that separate out the really great directors from the "ok for a music video" directors.