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Facebook, best or worst thing for [depression]
Tommatt
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So we used to have a thread for talking about depression. Right about the time Robin Williams killed himself. But like everything in life, we think about it, debate it, disuss it, and think about how horrible it is. But then we go along with our every day lives.
Alcoholism. How many people does it kill a year?
All of this info on alcoholism, but yet, how much of that is caused by depression?
I suffer from depression, and you know what, I talk with my therapist about how I miss my days of alcohol abuse, because you know what, I had something to look forward to every day.
So really, we don't calculate deaths from depression. But alcohol and drug abuse, guess hat, outs those of us who are depressed use. Right or wrong. How many people drink themselves to death because they don't' want to kill themselves but don't want to live?
I've been there. You're not suicidal, death would suck, but you're not living either. Depression sucks. You're on the bitter knife edge of " Life sucks, but death is worse". Every fucking day. It's the little things. I want to see the deadpool movie, and I want to see how they do the infinity gauntlet in Avengers. Little milestones, seemingly unimportant. But these are the things that get me through the day.
Again, anyone who's nodding their head at what I'm writing, go get help please, I am. I recognize it, but it's hard to do anything about it, I understand. It's the little milestones and the little goals. Life sucks, but being up here beats being down there.
Things like Robin Williams, and even Lamar Odom, are what sought me out to get help, and recognize that even when you're doing ok, you're just one emotional moment from falling off the deep end. Lamar, if anything ever happened to my parents right now, I'd be so unhinged. Drugs, alcohol, abusive relationships, you name it. Bring it on. Live life for this moment, and 60 seconds at a time.
But it's recognizing these things in our self, how bad things could be. And how you could snap at any moment.
I've seriously been on the road driving an felt the world bend around me. I almost lost t, I almost snapped. I've probably should have been ticketed for accounts of road rage, but it's been due to the depression I'm going though.
There are many like me on the forums, and we used to have a thread, and I feel we should have on again. Help is out there, it's not easy to get, and depression probably kills far more people than statistics gather. Again, how many people die of alcoholism due to depression, but it's never linked. I personally miss being an alcoholic, as at least I looked forward to something every day.
Tl;DR Lets talk about depression.
Alcoholism. How many people does it kill a year?
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What is a "drink"?
In the United States, a standard drink contains 0.6 ounces (14.0 grams or 1.2 tablespoons) of pure alcohol. Generally, this amount of pure alcohol is found in
12-ounces of beer (5% alcohol content).
8-ounces of malt liquor (7% alcohol content).
5-ounces of wine (12% alcohol content).
1.5-ounces of 80-proof (40% alcohol content) distilled spirits or liquor (e.g., gin, rum, vodka, whiskey).4
What is excessive drinking?
Excessive drinking includes binge drinking, heavy drinking, and any drinking by pregnant women or people younger than age 21.
Binge drinking, the most common form of drinking, is defined as consuming
For women, 4 or more drinks during a single occasion.
For men, 5 or more drinks during a single occasion.
Heavy drinking is defined as consuming
For women, 8 or more drinks per week.
For men, 15 or more drinks per week.
Most people who drink excessively are not alcoholics or alcohol dependent.5
What is moderate drinking?
The Dietary Guidelines for Americans defines moderate drinking as no more than 1 drink per day for women and no more than 2 drinks per day for men.4 However, there are some persons who should not drink any alcohol, including those who are:
Pregnant or trying to become pregnant.
Taking prescription or over-the-counter medications that may cause harmful reactions when mixed with alcohol.
Younger than age 21.
Recovering from alcoholism or are unable to control the amount they drink.
Suffering from a medical condition that may be worsened by alcohol.
Driving, planning to drive, or participating in other activities requiring skill, coordination, and alertness.
All of this info on alcoholism, but yet, how much of that is caused by depression?
I suffer from depression, and you know what, I talk with my therapist about how I miss my days of alcohol abuse, because you know what, I had something to look forward to every day.
So really, we don't calculate deaths from depression. But alcohol and drug abuse, guess hat, outs those of us who are depressed use. Right or wrong. How many people drink themselves to death because they don't' want to kill themselves but don't want to live?
I've been there. You're not suicidal, death would suck, but you're not living either. Depression sucks. You're on the bitter knife edge of " Life sucks, but death is worse". Every fucking day. It's the little things. I want to see the deadpool movie, and I want to see how they do the infinity gauntlet in Avengers. Little milestones, seemingly unimportant. But these are the things that get me through the day.
Again, anyone who's nodding their head at what I'm writing, go get help please, I am. I recognize it, but it's hard to do anything about it, I understand. It's the little milestones and the little goals. Life sucks, but being up here beats being down there.
Things like Robin Williams, and even Lamar Odom, are what sought me out to get help, and recognize that even when you're doing ok, you're just one emotional moment from falling off the deep end. Lamar, if anything ever happened to my parents right now, I'd be so unhinged. Drugs, alcohol, abusive relationships, you name it. Bring it on. Live life for this moment, and 60 seconds at a time.
But it's recognizing these things in our self, how bad things could be. And how you could snap at any moment.
I've seriously been on the road driving an felt the world bend around me. I almost lost t, I almost snapped. I've probably should have been ticketed for accounts of road rage, but it's been due to the depression I'm going though.
There are many like me on the forums, and we used to have a thread, and I feel we should have on again. Help is out there, it's not easy to get, and depression probably kills far more people than statistics gather. Again, how many people die of alcoholism due to depression, but it's never linked. I personally miss being an alcoholic, as at least I looked forward to something every day.
Tl;DR Lets talk about depression.
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Where does the "men can drink THIS much, but women can only drink THIS much" come from? Sounds like a bunch of antiquated bullshit to me.
And I don't know the answer to your question, but I would say very few people go the Leaving Las Vegas route of suicide. Alcoholism is a thing. And binge drinking is a thing. And heavy drinking is a think. And depression can lead to that kind of thing. But, without any data on the subject, I doubt more than a handful of people make a conscious or even subconscious decision to commit suicide through alcohol. Death may be a consequence of depression-fueled drinking but it's not a very effective method of planned suicide.
Don't mention things in a title or a post that you don't want brought up and don't fucking complain about it when people discuss the topics YOU introduce. If you bring them up, they are on topic and in scope for discussion.
Not even 10 posts in and I'm done with this thread.
There seems to be a distinct lack of understanding what removing the few enjoyable aspects of existence from someone's life will do.
I disagree. I just recently realized how destructive I've been in recent years. It makes me think of the movie "out of time" when he gives the 10 years to somebody who is clinically depressed. He went to the bar and spent his time. Which is what so many of us do. We get by, and then self destruct at the same time. Functional alcoholics. Many of these people aren't drunks, they're depressed. They hate their life, why try to strive to be better? Just get by the day, and consequences be damned.
The subject of the thread was depression, but alcoholism is a good comparison I feel. As many of the people who are self destructive alcoholics are probably depressed. Or maybe it's just my own personal experiences supplying anecdotal information.
But how many people does depression kill, that we don't credit to depression? I feel like many of the drug and alcohol related deaths would probably play into the %.
Are you trying to make me more depressed?
Also you just posted two totally different responses to the same post. I think you don't really want to debate this topic and you should look elsewhere for whatever it is you are looking for.
Also you're not a mod, so don't tell me where to post or not post.
@Drez didn't you say you were done with this thread? If you're brother or sister wants to off themselves feel free to push them over the edge.