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It's Time to D-D-D-D-[DUELYST]

THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa!Registered User regular
edited November 2015 in Social Entropy++
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DUELYST by Counterplay Games Inc. is a free to play one-versus-one TRADING CARD TURN BASED STRATEGY GAME!

What the hell does that even mean?

The elevator pitch is this: What if Hearthstone and Final Fantasy Tactics had a baby? It's a lot more complicated than that, as the game shares MUCH more DNA with Magic; the Gathering on the TCG side, with the sort of unit stats you'd expect from that game or Heathstone deeply informing the turn-based elements.

How's that, exactly?

Despite the fact that opening packs, gaining mana, casting spells, entering the Gauntlet(koffarenakoff), gaining rank, and adopting a Leader-type unit are all influenced by/cribbed from/straight-up yanked out of Hearthstone, the actual gameplay occurs on a 9x5 arena. All minions are cast into this arena and, like your General, move at a speed of 2 vertical/horizontal, 1 diagonal--unless specified in the card's rule language.

That sounds like it has a lot of layers.

You'd be right, voice in my head. Duelyst compounds a wide variety of Rule Archetypes with strategic movement. Analogues in MtG would be Rally, Ingest, or Delve--or for Hearthstone, Divine Shield, Deathrattle, or Charge. Similar to Hearthstone, Mana is gained at a rate of one per turn, unless you move any unit onto one of the THREE! mana crystals on the map for a one-turn extra buck. There are six deck types in Duelyst, each led by a cosmetically unique General, as well as a suite of Neutral cards that can be used in any deck. Each of these types or races is wildly unique from one another while also being much more familiar to MtG players than, say, a Warrior in Hearthstone is. More on that shortly. The long and short of it is: Each turn has an IMMENSE amount of moving parts, including your units, which move! And in some cases, are made of...parts. Let's get right to the real heart of Duelyst: The deck types.
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LYONAR
One of the very direct MtG analogues--this is your White deck. Emphasis on healing, creature aggro, and hail mary plays. Features the ZEAL mechanic, which benefits minions near your general. Minion removal will leave your General with little more than delaying tactics.
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SONGHAI
The Red deck of Duelyst. Not many of your individual creatures will win games, but wily movement and guile will. BACKSTABBING Songhai units will deal (Bonus Damage) while avoiding counterattacks. Just don't blow your load too fast, or you'll be frowning at pitched comebacks.
Notable for being an army named after an African empire, led by a white ginger who is way, way into Asian culture.
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VETRUVIAN
These desert-dwelling robots feature a lot of control cards, artifacts for your general, OBELISK units that spawn temporary minions, and BLAST minions that attack in a mapwide line. Being dispelled is bad news for almost every Vetruvian-centric unit.
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ABYSSIAN
Very Black-inspired, with lots of removal, risk-reward, and deception. WRAITHLINGS are plentiful 1/1 creatures to grind, while SHADOW CREEP puts foes on a timer. Just make sure your General can survive that timer--if you get cornered, you're Donezel Washington.
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MAGMAR
In addition to being a Pokemon, this is a very Green army. Use buffing spells to get strong as fuck in a world of shit. Break weaker units to clear the way. If some of those units die, they may be REBORN. Get. Huge. Just watch out for un-huging dispells and relocating tech.
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VANAR
I don't have a sprite for these guys, and that kind of reflects on their popularity. This is a very strange army that focuses on Structure units to create positioning, as well as VESPYR units that get better the more VESPYRS you summon. I have no fucking idea how to play or beat this. Good luck, players.

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DUELYST features several play modes: TRAINING, which boasts several dozen one-turn trials of wit and truly showcases how insanely busy a single turn of the game can be. RANKED, which encourages the player to ascend a series of metallic ladders. The GAUNTLET, which is a twice-weekly event wherein you choose an army type to draft a 30-card deck for, choosing between 3 cards 30 times. Win until you've won 9 times or lost 3. Gauntlet rewards are currently, shall we say, underwhelming--though they are self-perpetuating as long as you win a couple games. There is also a LAB MODE where you can play your own decks against one another! Yes, finally someone did that! Naturally, you may also play PRIVATE one-versus-one matches.

Now, the dark work: Real money. There's good news, though--if you are a fan of the way Hearthstone handles the route between your credit card and your deck, this works the same way. Booster packs of 5 cards can be purchased for 100 gold, awarded for leveling an army type up to 11 through play, or as a guaranteed consolation prize for Gauntlet buy-ins, which are 150 gold on Wednesdays and Saturdays. Packs can be bought en masse with actual dollars(BEST VALUE), but there is NOT a laundered currency at work. If you put money in, packs come out, and that is the only thing that will come out.

Duelyst is free as hell. You can grab its bite-sized client at: https://duelyst.com/ . It is a frankly GORGEOUS sprite-based game, and warrants a play if only to see its units and spells in motion. My username is MISTERSHWIFTY! Add me, and face robotic justice.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Is that Vanar deck like slivers? Can I play anime slivers? This is exciting to me.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    yeah

    yeah okay

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    Is that Vanar deck like slivers? Can I play anime slivers? This is exciting to me.

    Actually, yeah, I dunno why I didn't think of that! I've never really played slivers, but it's pretty accurate.

    There are also 3 theme-tied Neutral groups I'll probably write up for eventually.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    How do I mill

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    How do I mill

    You don't, because this is a just and decent world after all.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    I'm out

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Control decks could try a Summoner Wars style mill deck I guess?

    Though probably wouldn't be good.

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited November 2015
    I'm in as Solysp, just finished the tutorials.

    Took three attempts to successfully install and two attempts to successfully make an account and log in, yeesh.

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    Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    So who has a referral code because I wanna give you my refer

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Goose! wrote: »
    So who has a referral code because I wanna give you my refer

    I'm pretty sure that referral codes are only given to streamers and such, though I do know that "redditpals" is a publicly given code you can use.

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    Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    That is dumb!

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I will try this maybe.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Yeah ok, I'll give this a shot

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I'm probably going to suck at this.

    I kept over thinking those tutorial challenges.

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    Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    Its a neat concept but the gameplay is kind of slow (at least in tutorial mode)

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yo this looks raaaad

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    I'm probably going to suck at this.

    I kept over thinking those tutorial challenges.

    Don't worry

    They get pretty fucking mindbending on the back half

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    BertezBertezBertezBertez Registered User regular
    I'm Bertez in this game if anyone wants some friendly duels

    ...but I would say that

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Milling is only acceptable when you opponent is playing a ridiculous draw deck and you force them to draw out when they get too cocky.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    By the way, important factoid: By leveling an army type up to 11, you get 2 or 3 booster packs in the process. I've decided to shlep around and get them all leveled to bolster my collection/Spirit.

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    BertezBertezBertezBertez Registered User regular
    So coming back to this game after playing Undertale, the Songhai main menu screen really makes me think of Lesser Dog
    I guess this is where no dog has gone before.

    ...but I would say that

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    THESPOOKY wrote: »
    How do I mill

    You don't, because this is a just and decent world after all.

    But you just said there's slivers in this game. So what kind of twisted justice do you hold?

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    I've only played a little bit of this so far but it seems pretty ok. Figuring out the balance between using your general for offense and keeping him/her safe is my first mental hurdle for sure.

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    stopgapstopgap Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    I have been really enjoying this. I need to be careful last I burn out though. I think I am better at the tactics part than I was at headstone (hearthstone) so there is that.

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    I've only played a little bit of this so far but it seems pretty ok. Figuring out the balance between using your general for offense and keeping him/her safe is my first mental hurdle for sure.

    I still haven't really figured this out completely

    I'm only now starting to adapt movement patterns to different opponent armies, like keeping a cheap chump behind my general at all times against Songhai and scattering my army to the winds against Abyssian

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    LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    I downloaded this and so far it's pretty cool, kinda wish I had more gold or whatever to buy packs as I did all the tutorial challenges I could and bought two orbs.

    I also need to figure out some good tactics instead of flying by the seat of my pants against humans.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Other very important first impression: that card that just straight up destroys a minion that's near a general? Fuck that card. Ruined two of my 10/10 dragonbone golems.

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    I just unlocked the 7 cost Abyssian card that creates a 2x2 area of Shadow Creep

    Shadow Creep seems very strong. If you can get two of those cards in a row without overlapping the creep, it does an absurd amount of damage.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    THESPOOKY wrote: »
    I just unlocked the 7 cost Abyssian card that creates a 2x2 area of Shadow Creep

    Shadow Creep seems very strong. If you can get two of those cards in a row without overlapping the creep, it does an absurd amount of damage.

    Yeah, but that's 7 mana.

    Shadow creep is mostly just kind a control win con kinda deal IMO.
    Peen wrote: »
    Other very important first impression: that card that just straight up destroys a minion that's near a general? Fuck that card. Ruined two of my 10/10 dragonbone golems.

    Could be worse, could be Dark Sacrifice.

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Yeah, I thought Creep was very OP when I was first just playing against it, but it relies a lot on topdecking and isn't even the fastest "clock" you can put on someone

    Against Songhai, the clock starts on turn one

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    heh

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i did the first set of tutorials/challenges today

    game seems alright, tho' the animations feel a little slow

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    I saw this while browsing Twitch and it looks interesting, I'll give it a try tomorrow after work.

    Abyssian sounds like it's right up my alley.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Ok, so the game is quite fun. With the newbie gold, Quests and Challenges I was able to craft a nice Abyss Burn deck.

    Got up to silver so far and I'll play some more later today. And I agree with @Albino Bunny, 7 mana is too slow for Shadow Nova.

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    warder808warder808 Registered User regular
    edited January 2016
    Played the first 2 sets of tutorials. Art is awesome. Really enjoying it.

    Feel free to add me. I'm KineticThrasher.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    i am starting to play this again

    i like it, they made changes since i played last, like how many cards you draw/replace, and now you can have a different hero for each faction, and there are hero powers

    also it looks nicer and runs better


    i don't know if i'll stick with it because there's a new expansion coming out soon which will put me further behind but i am kinda feeling it again

    I needed anime to post. on
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    Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    started playing this today

    this is a really pretty game

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    Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    i lucked the hell out just now

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    that purple color around the legend means it's golden, right?

    does that affect anything in game or what

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    this is now on steam, that is convenient timing, i promise i am not paid by the company
    i wish i was paid by the company

    prismatic cards have a custom spawn/cast animation

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Ok but how good is the Shiro card

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