Terror Attacks in Paris

KetBra

So, as you likely already know, there have been multiple shootings/bombings in Paris earlier this evening. They appear to have been coordinated, but there is no definite motivation for the attacks, and we currently do not know who was involved in planning the attacks.

Current estimates for the number of dead are around 140, though with the amount of confusion, these numbers are obviously preliminary.

Reports are that there were attacks at these locations:



Vive La France



Links:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/world/europe/paris-shooting-attacks.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/13/world/europe/paris-shooting-attacks.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/paris-rocked-by-explosions-and-shootouts-leaving-dozens-dead/2015/11/13/133f5bc2-8a50-11e5-bd91-d385b244482f_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-high_paris:homepage/story
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/13/shootings-reported-in-eastern-paris-live
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/live/2015/11/13/au-moins-dix-huit-morts-dans-plusieurs-fusillades-et-explosions-a-paris_4809489_3224.html

Updates:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/665385342535655424

Der Waffle Mous

I do not envy you having to make this op.

HeadCreeps

I was thinking of making this thread, but honestly, I don't know what to say

Chincymcchilla

Xehalus

barbarism will disappear one day

but today is not that day

RoyceSraphim

Remember to vet any new information you post. No need to feed the fire.

Going back to depression.

Bucketman

This is just awful and beyond words. I have nothing constructive to say except that my thoughts are with the people of France in this time of tragedy

Xehalus

you can hear one of the bombings during this game's broadcast

the fans thought it was pyro it seems

Elaro

There was a witness saying that one of the terrorists was saying that they were doing this because of France's involvement in Syria and Irak.

radio-canada wrote:

Pierre Janaszak, qui se trouvait dans la salle de spectacle du Bataclan, affirme avoir clairement entendu les attaquants dire aux otages : « C'est la faute de Hollande. C'est la faute de votre président. Il n'a pas à intervenir en Syrie ». Ils ont aussi parlé de l'Irak, toujours selon ce même témoin.

radio-canada wrote:

Pierre Janaszak, who was in the showroom of the Bataclan, says he had clearly heard the assailants say to the hostages: « It's Hollande's fault. It's your president's fault. He doesn't have to intervene in Syria ». They also talked about Irak, also according to this same witness.

Label

yes, that sure seems plausible, but at this point people who were just in the middle of an extremely stressful situation are not the best source.

give it time. there should be solid information in a few days.

el_vicio

Friend of mine flew to Paris today. I checked in with her, she's okay, they arrived at their hotel just as it went down.
Gotta admit, this is the first time it actually feels scary to me. Must be the geographical proximity.

Liiya

People are being allowed into France now via the Channel Tunnel.

WeedLordVegeta

Reminder that this comes on the heels of two other attacks yesterday in baghdad and Beirut that killed 16 and 48, both of which ISIS has claimed responsibility for

There are still some things to be thankful for though, especially in beirut

https://twitter.com/GatsbyLow/status/665358194659581952

WeedLordVegeta

ISIS has issued a statement claiming responsibility, according to CNN

Gumpy

https://www.facebook.com/bbcnews/videos/10152545792982217/

France stands strong against the attacks

Jars

heard a brief line on NPR right now where the commentator let out a big audible sigh then starts talking about paris

Liiya

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34821392

Police are being super cautious after yesterdays events.

ceres

Welp, that's enough facebook for me today.

Platy

Apparently a different extremist group inside France had already planned an attack on the Bataclan before because its owners were Jewish (it changed owners this September however)

For those who don't know, France is slowly losing its Jewish population to emigration because there is strong antisemitism among a subportion of the Muslim population and there has been repeated violence against Jews (one of the attacks in January was also directed against a kosher supermarket and all the hostages killed by the attacker were Jewish)

el_vicio

ceres wrote: »

Welp, that's enough facebook for me today.

Yeah, one more conspiracy/false flag post and I might vomit

Platy

One commentator on TV pointed out that the attacks took place right between the start of the French intervention in Syria and the regional elections in December

The attacks could very much affect the election results and it is likely that this was intended by the extremists since they benefit from increased polarization

ph blake

More information about the timeline of the suicide bombers and the France/Germany match.

Security actually caught one of the bombers trying to get into the stadium 15 minutes into the match; he blew himself up while trying to back away from the security team.

It sounds like this could have been a lot worse if the stadium security and logistics hadn't been so on point; the fact that they were able to prevent a panic inside was huge.

Darmak

ph blake wrote: »

More information about the timeline of the suicide bombers and the France/Germany match.

Security actually caught one of the bombers trying to get into the stadium 15 minutes into the match; he blew himself up while trying to back away from the security team.

It sounds like this could have been a lot worse if the stadium security and logistics hadn't been so on point; the fact that they were able to prevent a panic inside was huge.

Speaking of, I work security at a nuclear plant here. I wonder how all of this may affect my job.

Machwing

Is there a place where I can donate money towards helping folks hurt by both the Beirut and Paris bombings? Is Doctors Without Borders a good organization to contribute to?

Gvzbgul

I dunno if DWB is helping out with the care for the survivors, but anything that goes towards making the world a better place is a good thing in my book.

tynic

It's a highly responsible charity which does a lot of good, so I'd say yes.

KetBra

MSF (DWB) is one of the best charities you can donate to

Panda4You

Gumpy wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/bbcnews/videos/10152545792982217/

France stands strong against the attacks

I wonder what routines and contingencies are planned, if any, to prevent this sort of thing in the future though?

KetBra wrote: »

MSF (DWB) is one of the best charities you can donate to

Unlike the motherfucking Red Cross, for example

Machwing

Alright, thanks! I'm going to throw a little bit of money their way. A little more helpful than changing my facebook pic or whatever.

Captain Marcus

Panda4You wrote: »

Unlike the motherfucking Red Cross , for example

...since when has the Red Cross/Red Crescent been evil?

Gvzbgul

Captain Marcus wrote: »

Panda4You wrote: »

Unlike the motherfucking Red Cross , for example

...since when has the Red Cross/Red Crescent been evil?

It's run by vampires, don'tcha know.

WeedLordVegeta

Nevermind

Lost Canuck

That article is from April.

jgeis

WeedLordVegeta wrote: »

147 dead at a Kenyan university after an al-shabab attack
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-32169080

While also tragic, this article is dated April 3, 2015.

Der Waffle Mous

...

I feel like cutting myself off from the world for a day or two might be good for my mental health.

oh its from months ago.

still. fuck.

not even a peep about it otherwise.

Panda4You

Captain Marcus wrote: »

Panda4You wrote: »

Unlike the motherfucking Red Cross , for example

...since when has the Red Cross/Red Crescent been evil?

For such a big and name-recognized charity as RC is, it's also inefficient and corrupt as fuck.

RoyceSraphim

Der Waffle Mous wrote: »

...

I feel like cutting myself off from the world for a day or two might be good for my mental health.

oh its from months ago.

still. fuck.

not even a peep about it otherwise.

Yeah, a few months after Charles, and as I said in the other thread, part of a sustained campaign by Al Shabaab against soft targets across the horn of Africa.

They're why dad couldn't go home.

Der Waffle Mous

We've essentially got a media apparatus who deliberately want us to only feel for western white men.

Platy

It was well publicized here in Europe

RoyceSraphim

Platypus Beirut wrote: »

It was well publicized here in Europe

You have a surprisingly better relationship with Africa compared to the US

Platy

Well, it's closer to us and most of the countries used to be European colonies