[Pokemon] SuMo Time!

QuantumShaddow

OK, what are people's thought on the Nintendo Direct video? I was excited to see that Sun/Moon will be out this year, but bummed about no Pokemon Go update...

Tairu

Lets just get it out of the way, that was a terrible direct.

That said, I am excited for these games that we knew were coming out and it's cool that they're in Chinese now.

Here are some images of the setting. Not much to go on but if I were to hazard a guess i'd say it seems tropical.

WotanAnubis

On the one hand, I did like the 20 year retrospective trailer.

On the other hand, I would've liked to see something of Sun & Moon. Like, maybe a hint to player character customization is back?

Well, anyway, I'll be buying Moon and none of youse can stop me. Not even if Sun has all my favourite Pokémon as exclusives.

Brainiac 8

Yup, I'll be buying Moon too. It's always exciting leading up to a new Pokémon series.

I like the idea that we might get to drive cars now. Grand Theft Pokémon.

skeldare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9WJWp8zvs

I liked it but would've been more excited without the leak.

Tairu

I thought this Pokémon was Fletchling but it might be a new mon.

It's hard to tell what that will look like finalized but it does seem to have a different tail shape and legs. Who knows. It would be a little disappointing if the new bird type looked almost exactly like Fletchling.

UnbreakableVow

I liked the Direct

The retrospective video was nice, official confirmation of Sun/Moon was nice, RBY using Pokemon Bank is REALLY nice

General_Armchair

Trademark information is public and not much of a leak in terms of reliability. Companies love trademarking all of their ideas in bulk to get their foot in the door, even if those ideas never come to fruition.

Sometimes they trademark things to be misleading. Does anyone here play magic the gathering and recall the speculation around the "mirrodin pure" trademark? There was never going to be such a product. The trademark purely existed to fan the fires of speculation.

PLA

The so called "leak" was Nintendo Co., Ltd. publicly calling dibs on the titles in advance.

The trailer actually showed a bunch of concept-art, and a bird-model. Chinese language-support is huge. I wonder to what extent Pokemon Bank will reject RBY-specific bullshit.

redfield85

What if we can transfer Missing NO?!

Brainiac 8

Those make me sad.

WotanAnubis

redfield85 wrote: »

What if we can transfer Missing NO?!

I doubt that's possible. But I'd really like someone to try it.

Someone other than me.

PLA

That bird looks like fletchling in that it looks like a small bird. The geometry doesn't add up at all.

Polaritie

WotanAnubis wrote: »

redfield85 wrote: »

What if we can transfer Missing NO?!

I doubt that's possible. But I'd really like someone to try it.

Someone other than me.

What if that's how you get that new legendary they showed a while back? Man-made indeed!

PLA

Fissure-Machamp?

pirateluigi

So many people upset about the direct online... even though the complaint is nearly 100% "They didn't reveal anything! We already knew Pokemon Sun and Moon were coming!"... which... yeah, we did, but if it hadn't been spoiled it would have been a genuinely shocking direct. I don't think anyone would have expected a new gen this year.

Also, importing RBY pokemon is cool. I wonder how they plan on dealing with the IV/EV system being completely different.

PLA

I argue that Missingno is the least manmade of pokemon. Most other pokemon are actually designed and crafted.

Peewi

Tairu wrote: »

Lets just get it out of the way, that was a terrible direct.

That said, I am excited for these games that we knew were coming out and it's cool that they're in Chinese now.

Here are some images of the setting. Not much to go on but if I were to hazard a guess i'd say it seems tropical.

Okay, firefighter Blastoise is kinda neat.

PLA

Chinese pokemon-logos classy as fk.

Brainiac 8

God I just love that Moon logo design.

It's like one of Moon Knight's shuriken.

PLA

Heh, Ishihara even spoke a little chinese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWSCYwGkCkY

jothki

pirateluigi wrote: »

Also, importing RBY pokemon is cool. I wonder how they plan on dealing with the IV/EV system being completely different.

I doubt that anyone who would actually use an RBY import would care, so they'll probably just make something up.

PLA

http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-sun-and-pokemon-moon/

Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon are coming out for systems in the Nintendo 3DS family in holiday 2016, with a new world, new Pokémon, and new adventures to discover!

Archsorcerer

Tairu wrote: »

It's hard to tell what that will look like finalized but it does seem to have a different tail shape and legs. Who knows. It would be a little disappointing if the new bird type looked almost exactly like Fletchling.

Hummingbird pokemon?

Brainiac 8

Archsorcerer wrote: »

Tairu wrote: »

It's hard to tell what that will look like finalized but it does seem to have a different tail shape and legs. Who knows. It would be a little disappointing if the new bird type looked almost exactly like Fletchling.

Hummingbird pokemon?

crap...now I really want a hummingbird Pokémon. Surprised we haven't had one of those yet.

Toxic Toys

jothki wrote: »

pirateluigi wrote: »

Also, importing RBY pokemon is cool. I wonder how they plan on dealing with the IV/EV system being completely different.

I doubt that anyone who would actually use an RBY import would care, so they'll probably just make something up.

I know I won't, but I just horde pokemon.

Maz-

https://twitter.com/TAHK0/status/703253571207196672

PLA

First games in new region are never the good games in the region, though.

Taya

I'm surprised Pokemon from R/B/Y will be Pokemon Bank compatible. I guess there will be an algorithm to convert DVs into IVs and account for the Special stat. And I guess a nature and/or ability will be randomized. I'm not sure how stat experience will be handed as I was under the impression that you could max every stat in the early games.

pirateluigi

Taya wrote: »

I'm surprised Pokemon from R/B/Y will be Pokemon Bank compatible. I guess there will be an algorithm to convert DVs into IVs and account for the Special stat. And I guess a nature and/or ability will be randomized. I'm not sure how stat experience will be handed as I was under the impression that you could max every stat in the early games.

My guess is it'll revert stat experience to 0 when you transfer to Bank.

And for No Guard Fissure Machamp.... I guess we'll see.

Peewi

Taya wrote: »

I'm surprised Pokemon from R/B/Y will be Pokemon Bank compatible. I guess there will be an algorithm to convert DVs into IVs and account for the Special stat. And I guess a nature and/or ability will be randomized. I'm not sure how stat experience will be handed as I was under the impression that you could max every stat in the early games.

We'll have to wait for Sun and Moon to find out.
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/#pokemon-sun-pokemon-moon

Note that Pokémon cannot be moved directly from Pokémon Red, Pokémon Blue, and Pokémon Yellow to Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, or Pokémon Y via Pokémon Bank.

Zunde

I'm very glad that it's a whole new setting.

As much as i enjoy pokemon i do not enjoy Hoenn at all.

Dr. Chaos

Not even five seconds of new footage or pokes.

Brutal, Nintendo.

pirateluigi

Dr. Chaos wrote: »

Not even five seconds of new footage or pokes.

Brutal, Nintendo.

I'm split on this. I want to know more, but at the same time, XY revealed nearly every Pokémon prior to release. I already know I'm going to buy them, so I suppose I'd rather know as little as possible.

PLA

At least we know that ditto can drive car.

Enigmedic

I'd love it if they somehow kept everything about sun and moon under wraps, so that half the game isnt spoiled and decoded before it's even released. How much cooler would it be to run into some awesome pokemon in the grass seeing it for the first time, rather than oh this is that thing I saw online 6 months ago.

As to our mega pokemon discussion from the last thread, I don't like them because it makes them the final evolution of whatever has/gets one, it messes with other frankly more interesting items for pokemon to hold (another thing I really don't like past berries), and the 1 per battle thing always skews teams to include at least one because they are generally so much better than other pokemon. I think an overhaul of the stat system in general would do more for diversity and balance than just adding more power creep.

Also when I read sol/luna I thought for a sec it was the fire emblem thread.

Dritz

I suck at competitive battling so I don't really know but I'm pretty sure sacrificing the held item slot for a mega evolution does matter on at least a few pokemon especially since you can only have one on your team. So I wouldn't say it makes every Megas final evolution useless.

Styrofoam Sammich

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of megas that just end up meaning more stats on an already good pokemon. Mega Tyranitar? Yaaaaawnn.

Megas where there is either of a strategic choice to using the move, like with Gengar, or where the Mega form introduces a new play style to the pokemon like CharizardX is where its at.

Or when dumb pointless pokemon get awesome and ridiculous. Mega Evolution is a good way to make otherwise pointless pokemon viable.

Polaritie

Mega Altaria

Archsorcerer

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

Archsorcerer wrote: »

Tairu wrote: »

It's hard to tell what that will look like finalized but it does seem to have a different tail shape and legs. Who knows. It would be a little disappointing if the new bird type looked almost exactly like Fletchling.

Hummingbird pokemon?

crap...now I really want a hummingbird Pokémon. Surprised we haven't had one of those yet.

I wanted a swan but Swanna turned out bad.

Enlong

Wait new games what?

Very cool, though I despair at having to start all over again.

Who else is hoping for evolutions, mega or otherwise, for Solrock and Lunatone?